[00:14] <uRock> Can a dying WiFI NIC cause journald to use 100% of a CPU? I noticed a lot of warnings in journalctl about the NIC, so I switched to another WIFI NIC and it hasn't spiked again since.
[00:22] <DarwinElf> almost every day, my Kubuntu PC is replacing /etc/hosts with an earlier version.  How do I stop this?!
[00:22] <DarwinElf> is it another thing because of that systemd garbage?
[00:56] <KNERD> uRock: network data tanfser is done by the CPU. So something can happen. You can use htop to see what is using those CPU cycles/
[00:57] <uRock> KNERD, it was journald
[01:10] <KNERD> uRock: must of been some seriosu logs being generated
[01:13] <uRock> KNERD, tens of thousands of lines when I ran journalctl just an hour after a reboot.
[01:16] <remline> What is the purpose of the unsigned kernel images (e.g., linux-image-unsigned-5.0.0-29-generic)? I am using an old BIOS, but the signed images work fine; making unsigned seem pointless?
[01:22] <remline> Perhaps it is for people who need to load unsigned kernel modules?
[01:53] <gimmel> exit
[01:53] <gimmel> *facepalm*
[02:05] <uRock> Good night, sleep tight, dream of fixed bugs tonight!
[02:18] <gimmel> I've just run dosfsck over a USB pendrive and it's created a hefty amount of .REC files. These files are intact to the point that if I change the extension to what it was originally (eg, .jpg) it opens. In gnome, the icon next to each .rec file indicates gnome knows what type of file it is. It puts a 'jpg' icon next to the images. How does it know this? and how can use that info to bulk rename the
[02:18] <gimmel> extensions?
[02:22] <doug16k> gimmel, the `file` program tries to detect the type of a file's content. run `file your-filename-here`
[02:23] <kst> A jpg file can be recognized by examining its first few bytes. Similarly for other file types, including image formats, etc. The `file` command extracts this information and displays the type of file (not 100% reliably).  dosfsck and/or Gnome are either invoking `file` or doing something equivalent.
[02:24] <doug16k> you can throw a whole directory at `file` like this: file *
[02:25] <gimmel> Thanks guys - I did try file on a few random files and it didn't really help. Looks like I randomly selected some unhelpful files to try on. You're right, file is identifying the jpgs and pngs.
[02:26] <gimmel> doug16k: Yes, I just tested that also. So I'm going to have to dust off some shell to get the output recognised and then to automagically rename accordingly.
[02:26] <gimmel> unless anyonw knows of a pre-existing such wheel before I attempt to invent it?
[02:35] <doug16k> gimmel, if you want to write a C program for that, you can use libmagic1-dev
[02:35] <doug16k> er, libmagic-dev
[02:36] <doug16k> https://www.darwinsys.com/file/
[02:43] <gimmel> doug16k: sadly beyond my programming skills.
[03:09] <x1carbon> Good evening all - I have a question about cursor size
[03:09] <x1carbon> I installed Postman from the software center - it works fine with the exception that the cursor is really really tiny
[03:10] <x1carbon> I'm on a hidef laptop (X1Carbon 6th gen)
[03:10] <x1carbon> with 150% scaling
[03:11] <x1carbon> I'm betting this has to do with experimental scaling - is there a way to force an app to use system sized cursors?
[03:43] <k_sze> erm... Chromium won't quit.
[04:10] <SpeedrunnerG55> I am having trouble with my dns configuration, I’m currently unable to resolve any hostnames but I can ping 8.8.8.8
[04:13] <SpeedrunnerG55> I don’t know what to check to see what I need to do
[04:24] <Bashing-om> sphalerite: What release (netplan ?) - desktop ( network-manager?) ? Then we can look at should be set.
[06:22] <ws2k3> turn out i needed to replace start on (runlevel [345] and started network)                         │start on (runlevel [345] and started network)                         │start on (runlevel [345] and started network)
[06:22] <ws2k3> stop on (runlevel [!345] or stopping network)  with start on runlevel [2345] and then it worked fine no thanks to you guys :) now deploying it into production again =)
[06:58] <mase-tech> Hi
[06:58] <mase-tech> I have a dual boot (win / ubuntu-mate)
[06:59] <DarwinElf> almost every day, my Kubuntu PC is replacing /etc/hosts with an earlier version.  How do I stop this?!
[06:59] <mase-tech> I want to delete ubuntu-mate
[06:59] <mase-tech> and on that place i want to install ubuntu
[06:59] <mase-tech> is that easy possible ?
[06:59] <DarwinElf> you probably don't need to delete it then
[07:00] <DarwinElf> there's probably a process you remove MATE and install whatever the main version has
[07:00] <guiverc> mase-tech, I would just install Ubuntu over your Ubuntu-MATE system, I'd also use 'something-else' & not format so all user files aren't wiped - but it's your choice
[07:00] <saul> anybody use cinnamon? i'm trying to disable "snapping" - it happens when you move a window and your cursor hits the top of the screen
[07:03] <mase-tech>  I would just install Ubuntu over your Ubuntu-MATE system
[07:03] <guiverc> mase-tech, `sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop` will add the default desktop to your system; it'll mean you have two desktops and select at login (close to what DarwinElf suggested except the remove step), but multiple desktops isn't ideal for newbies (it has costs, more updates, more menu options, ie. caja (mate) & nautilus (gnome/unity) do the same thing for most program categories)
[07:03] <mase-tech> how ?
[07:03] <mase-tech> ok
[07:04] <mase-tech> i do not want that
[07:04] <mase-tech> so i format the partion
[07:04] <mase-tech> wiping files isnt a problem with github and cloud services
[07:04] <guiverc> mase-tech, my prior was built on DarwinElf's point.. I'd suggest writing the release of Ubuntu you want to thumb-drive & install that; using 'something-else' selecting your existing partitions and 'no format' .. it notes your additional apps; wipes system dirs, installs, adds back added apps & asks you to reboot without touching user files - would be my choice
[07:05] <mase-tech> the thing is
[07:05] <guiverc> mase-tech, I'm suggesting what I'd do - you do what best suits your needs.  if you select 'format' you'll start completely new
[07:05] <mase-tech> grub 2 is active
[07:05] <guiverc> mase-tech, please try & use fewer enter's
[07:06] <mase-tech> I only want to remove the mate version an install on that playe ubuntu
[07:06] <mase-tech> place
[07:06] <guiverc> an install will replace the existing GRUB with the new install's grub.
[07:07] <mase-tech> and does this process also take care of the win partion
[07:08] <guiverc> mase-tech,  you should ALWAYS BACKUP; and if you select the correct option it won't touch your windows, but if you select 'use entire disk' your windows will be gone - ie. choose the correct options & why backups are needed (even if you don't expect to use them)
[07:08] <mase-tech> ok i give that a try
[07:09] <mase-tech> I must say ubuntu did improve
[07:09] <mase-tech> thats why it is rewarded that I install it again
[07:09] <mgedmin> ubuntu is nice
[07:11] <mase-tech> my user experience was bad
[07:11] <mase-tech> but there were made some good decicions
[07:11] <mgedmin> yeah, it's not perfect
[07:11] <mase-tech> ok got to go
[07:12] <mase-tech> cu you in w while
[07:12] <mase-tech> crocodile
[07:12] <mase-tech> :D
[07:15] <saul> i use raspian/debian but we have ubuntu machines at owrk
[07:15] <saul> work*
[08:06] <AbraCadaver> anyone know how i can trick X server that the mouse and keyboard events its looking at are actual mouse and keyboard, when really they are being controlled by a user space program?
[08:07] <AbraCadaver> i dont want to use xdotool. i need a solution that happens outside X...maybe if theres a way to create a bridge device to the actual keyboard and mouse bus or something
[08:08] <Habbie> AbraCadaver, why don't you want to use xdotool?
[08:10] <AbraCadaver> im going to incorporate it into a much larger project. and someone might be using wayland as opposed to X. so i need it to work outside the window/display program
[08:11] <AbraCadaver> i think wayland and X are 'watching' or reading input from some evdev or uinput module. im not sure what going on under the hood all the way
[08:12] <AbraCadaver> maybe theres a virtual bus in linux and i can bridge to it my fake device?
[08:27] <eraserpencil> what is a good way to provide a series of yes/no(s), including providing a user password as part of an installation step of a bash script.
[08:28] <eraserpencil> the sequence would be "q" to exit the 'less' of the license. "y", to accept the license, passwd to download dependencies and a couple more "y"
[08:29] <Habbie> a good way for that is to use the tools already available in ubuntu, as used by various packages, like mysql/mariadb
[08:32] <eraserpencil> could you elaborate?  I've tried echo -e "y\n${PASSWD}\ny\ny" | LESS='+q' ./install.runfile
[08:34] <geirha> I'd check the documentation. It might be able to take those answers via arguments, environment variables or config files
[08:34] <eraserpencil> and printf, and also something like echo "y" | echo "y" | ./install.runfile, but the last one i think i ran into a subshell behavior or something cause it stopped and got pushed to the background
[08:34] <Habbie> eraserpencil, no - i don't immediately recall what those tools are called, but something like the mariadb postinst might provide hints
[08:36] <adac> How can I list this Keyring? ecryptfs-insert-wrapped-passphrase-into-keyring
[08:38] <Meufib> eraserpencil: Have you checked out expect? https://linux.die.net/man/1/expect
[08:40] <eraserpencil> i didnt actually. SO didnt paticularly like those solutions with answers. So i thought I might try out here for suggestions.
[08:40] <eraserpencil> Guess i've got nothing to lose trying it out
[09:14] <ns5> I just installed Ubuntu 18.04.3, and it has kernel 4.15.0-64
[09:14] <ns5> I have another ubuntu 18.04 server, which has kernel 4.15.0-50
[09:14] <ns5> but I can't update it to 4.15.0-64, it says no update available.  Why?
[09:15] <pkuehne> did you uograde ubuntu to the latest version?
[09:16] <ns5> pkuehne: I just tried apt-get dist-upgrade, it says 0 packages need to be updated
[09:18] <pkuehne> what does do-release-upgrade -c say?
[09:19] <ns5> it says "there's no development version of and LTS available"
[09:19] <ns5> actually both hosts were installed from 18.04.3 iso
[09:21] <pkuehne> sorry, goes beyond my expertise
[09:22] <vetr> Wait, you installed both machines from the same ISO?
[09:23] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[09:26] <nikolam> hi, is now /etc/modprobe.d/zfs.conf moved to /lib/modules-load.d/zfs.conf for storing ZFS parameters? I would like to do ' options zfs zfs_arc_max=536870912 ' to limit ZFS ARC cache maximum ..  Is this the right location now for permanent seting?
[09:26] <nikolam> I am now on 19.04
[09:42] <nikolam> I guess it is /etc/modprobe.d/zfs.conf after all
[09:54] <SeTunTun> Hello. I have a folder with 600 files that I need to zip individually. Is there any command that I can use?
[09:55] <Habbie> SeTunTun, a 'for' loop in your favourite shell is a common approach
[09:55] <SeTunTun> I don't want to zip them one by one and get older doing that :)
[09:56] <SeTunTun> let's see what "not google" says about "for" Sorry I am quite new to using the shell
[09:56] <lotuspsychje> SeTunTun: more a question for ##linux ?
[09:57] <SeTunTun> lotuspsychje, I'll try
[10:43] <porton> Is it a good idea to cipher the disk on a system with 4GB memory and quite weak CPU?
[10:48] <gunix> i need to recompile ubuntu kernel and i got stuck with this tutorial: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[10:48] <gunix> i downloaded the src but i can't find the config file to edit it
[10:49] <mgedmin> gunix: /boot contains config files for stock ubuntu kernels; copy one and modify to your liking?
[10:50] <mgedmin> but that wiki page implies that the ubuntu kernel source has config files for all the flavours already?
[10:50] <gunix> mgedmin: yea, i found that one and also the flags which might cause trouble for my hardware. now i want to remove them from the kernel
[10:51] <mgedmin> have you reported it to the appropriate bug tracker?  because compiling your own kernel every time ubuntu does a security update will get old really fast
[10:52] <gunix> mgedmin: i opened a kernel bug to intel a few months ago and nobody touched it
[10:52] <lotuspsychje> gunix: wich bug is that?
[10:52] <gunix> mgedmin: i also thought this problem was only on newer kernels at the time, but it seems 4.15 also has the problem
[10:52] <gunix> lotuspsychje: give me a sec to search
[10:53] <gunix> lotuspsychje: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=203433
[10:54] <gunix> what amazes me is that i started to use 10G servers with 4.15 and 4.19 kernels and the flags are in the config and IPsec is loosing packages
[10:54] <gunix> so now i want to recompile kernel without offload for ipsec and test... i have a gentoo with 4.19 that works great, but it doesn't have offload
[10:54] <gunix> so... it's the offload in the kernel or i will shoot myself cause i've been testing this for weeks now
[10:54] <lotuspsychje> gunix: here is the ubuntu support channel, do you have an ubuntu kernel bug about it?
[10:55] <gunix> lotuspsychje: not yet. i need to recompile the kernel first to test if the offload really is the issue
[10:55] <gunix> lotuspsychje: i can open the bug if you want after i confirm it works without the offload
[11:13] <Galactor> testing something. can someone write my name? making sure a highlight script is working
[11:14] <Gerdos> Hi! I have a question. I installed a new VGA in to my PC (NVidia 1050) and the left speaker of my headphone stopped working. I tried multiple headphones, multiple cabels however nothing helped. I searched on SO and other places, tried enabling everything inside ALSAMIXER, and in sound setting, but no luck so far. Anyone have any idea?
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> !test | Galactor
[11:14] <Galactor> works great! trying to backup and cloudsynch my irssi settings between two machines. never wanna configure this again lol. Thanks so much!
[11:17]  * mgedmin just switched from irssi to weechat and is much happier
[11:18] <gunix> mgedmin: lotuspsychje: any idea on how to compile the kernel after editing the config found in /boot/ ?
[11:22] <mgedmin> was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel not helpful enough?
[11:22] <mgedmin> the last time I built a kernel was in 1999, when I was using Slackware...
[11:23] <mgedmin> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel#Building_the_kernel looks sensible
[11:23] <mgedmin> I would also use dch -i to edit debian/changelog and change the version number to have a .mg1 suffix or something similar, to make it clear to myself which kernel is mine and which ones are stock ubuntu
[11:24] <mgedmin> before doing the fakeroot debian/rules ... build steps
[11:56] <collateral> Hi all. I'm having an issue with booting into a newly refreshed Ubuntu 18.04 Server. I've partitioned 2 x 1TB hard drives into 32GB swap and the rest EXT4 storage pointed to / (root). I've applied RAID1 to this setup and attempted to boot.
[11:56] <collateral> I get this error
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> collateral: join #ubuntu-server for likeminded volunteers
[11:57] <collateral> Ahhh lotuspsychje am I in the wrong place?
[11:57] <EriC^^> collateral: what error do you get
[11:57] <vetr> Interested to know how you configured the raid.
[11:57] <lotuspsychje> collateral: no, im trying to widen your options
[11:58] <collateral> Gave up waiting for root device. Common problems:
[11:58] <collateral> lotuspsychje Thanks
[11:58] <vetr> collateral: SW or HW RAID?
[11:59] <collateral> SW RAID. I then downloaded and booted to SystemRescueCD and ran `blkid` and it showed the UUID of the RAID correctly.
[12:00] <mgedmin> collateral: is the array mentioned in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf?
[12:00] <mgedmin> collateral: did you update the initramfs after creating the raid array?
[12:01] <mgedmin> collateral: what does /etc/fstab look like?
[12:02] <collateral> Ahhh mgedmin when I went too loo at that file, it spat out a whole lot of I/O error's and "failed to read block" errors. I think I have a Hard Drive failure on my hands...>.<
[12:02] <mgedmin> collateral: what does grep root= /boot/grub/grub.cfg find?
[12:03] <mgedmin> oooh ouch time for some smartmontools action then
[12:03] <vetr> If you have the time to do it via the installation CHUI: https://graspingtech.com/install-ubuntu-server-software-raid-1/
[12:09] <collateral> mgedmin Ahh I'll take a look at that. And thanks vetr that walkthrough is actually good reference.
[12:15] <gunix> mgedmin: i tried the kernel build tutorial on that page and it actually does not work
[12:17] <vetr> The building of the kernel?
[12:17] <lotuspsychje> gunix: perhaps before doing things, talk to the #ubuntu-kernel crew?
[12:18] <lotuspsychje> gunix: maybe they know a dupe for your bug?
[12:19] <gunix> lotuspsychje: good idea. and i doubt people know about it. there are few people that will encounter it, but the ones that do, will go crazy about it
[12:20] <gunix> it only appears when using ipsec on 10G nics from intel :-D
[12:22] <vetr> gunix: what ipsec lib are you using?
[12:23] <vetr> Libre or strong?
[12:24] <gunix> vetr: strongswan, though i doubt it is that
[12:24] <vetr> I only ask as you are more likely to run into someone in #strongswan who has met with this issue before.
[12:24] <vetr> Ill put $20 on Thermi seeing this before
[12:25] <gunix> vetr: we actually have a contract with thermi and he did help me on the troubleshoot :-D
[12:25] <untoreh> gio mounts don't appear anymore on /run/user/$UID/gvfs they are only visibile in from nautilus
[12:25] <gunix> and yea, Thermi is an awesome guy. expensive, though :-D
[12:25] <untoreh> is there a way to make them show up again or should I switch mounts ?
[12:25] <vetr> Thermi is a G, I have learned much from him.
[12:26] <mgedmin> untoreh: do you have gvfs-fuse installed?
[12:26] <gunix> yea, he is awesome on strongswan
[12:27] <untoreh> mgedmin: it appears so
[12:28] <vetr> gunix: swanctl > ipsec.conf :)
[12:28] <gunix> vetr: yea, we switched to swanctl ;-)
[12:29] <vetr> So you succeeded in recompiling the kernel with your changes?
[12:29] <vetr> But the setting didn't have an effect?
[12:30] <gunix> vetr: no, i am stuck on recompiling the kernel on ubuntu
[12:30] <gunix> vetr: i have a working kernel on gentoo and i am also recompiling on arch now, but on ubuntu the recompilation seems to be ... undocumented
[12:31] <gunix> and we are working with about 100 datacenters so having this working on ubuntu would be easier to automate accross the various teams
[12:31] <mgedmin> gunix: you never told us _how_ the instructions on the wiki page do not work...
[12:32] <vetr> gunix: https://askubuntu.com/questions/163298/whats-a-simple-way-to-recompile-the-kernel
[12:32] <gunix> mgedmin: https://bpaste.net/show/6roq
[12:32] <vetr> Just like any other program to compile from source (which requires libs and such).
[12:33] <gunix> vetr: that article is from the age of kernel 3.2
[12:33] <vetr> I know
[12:34] <vetr> https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/amd64/ch08s06.html
[12:34] <mgedmin> ah!  yeah, that's not nice
[12:35] <gunix> vetr: i actually got through that too. there is no /usr/src/linux-source-4.15.tar.xz
[12:36] <vetr> well you gotta download it
[12:36] <gunix> vetr: i tried, but didn't get that far
[12:36] <vetr> Download the source tarball and extract it
[12:37] <gunix> vetr: yea, a colleague is trying that now
[12:37] <mgedmin> well, debian/rules editconfigs is a very custom thing, but the rest should work
[12:37] <gunix> still a PITA
[12:37] <mgedmin> if you can figure out where the config files are and how to edit them
[12:38] <vetr> welcome to a linux programmers life
[12:38] <gunix> mgedmin: that would be great cause i just want to use the normal ubuntu kernel config and remove offloading
[12:38] <mgedmin> somebody ought to fix that wiki page
[12:38] <mgedmin> gunix: is there no kernel command-line option to disable offloading?
[12:38] <gunix> mgedmin:hallelujah
[12:38] <gunix> mgedmin: good question
[12:39] <gunix> mgedmin: i managed to get the arch done at least: https://bpaste.net/show/e40B
[12:39] <vetr> I doubt, it doesnt seem that it is module based. And something related to IPSEC would most likely be wrapped up in the compiled kernel to sit in protected mode after ram boot
[12:41] <gunix> it is CONFIG_XFRM_OFFLOAD and CONFIG_INET_ESP_OFFLOAD
[12:47] <vetr> gunix: is it possible to turn off offloading from with user space?
[12:49] <gunix> vetr: it should be but the driver ignores the offload setting in the ikev2 sa
[12:49] <vetr> way to go intel
[12:49] <vetr> Was gonna saw hw_offload: should work
[12:50] <vetr> it is interesting, tho, that hw offloading is causing you issues
[13:02] <flog> How do i figure out what scan code a key that xev doesnt recognize?
[13:03] <flog> Maybe this isnt strictly ubuntu related though.
[13:04] <vetr> keyboard related?
[13:05] <vetr> flog
[13:05] <flog> Its one of the function keys on my lenovo t495.
[13:05] <flog> So yes.
[13:06] <vetr> go to console, type: showkey
[13:06] <vetr> then hit the key you want
[13:06] <flog> "Couldn't get a fil edescriptor referring to the console"
[13:08] <rishav> hi!
[13:08] <flog> However i've been using xev previously to get keysyms.
[13:09] <rishav> does any one know the correct way to install TensorFlow GPU?
[13:09] <flog> Im starting to suspect that that key might be the key that is usually for keyboard backlighting but I opted out on backlighting since it is pointless.
[13:12] <JimBuntu> rishav, "correct" compared to installing the debs or does that include the debs?
[13:14] <mgedmin> flog: you might have to use sudo showkey
[13:15] <vetr> ^
[13:16] <flog> mgedmin: now you made me feel stupid :p
[13:17] <mgedmin> why?  the error message doesn't say anything about lacking permissions
[13:17] <mgedmin> I've only remembered that showkey needs root because I've used it in the past
[13:18] <flog> Should have been the next thing to try.
[13:18] <flog> Got a keycode from that though.
[13:18] <flog> Thanks.
[13:18] <vetr> wonder if you needed to star xev with sudo as well
[13:18] <mgedmin> no
[13:18] <mgedmin> if xev doesn't see the key, it's possible that something (gnome-shell? gnome-settings-daemon) has a grab on that key
[13:19] <flog> xev works fine without sudo.
[13:19] <mgedmin> or it's possible the X protocol ran out of keycodes (it only has 256 of them) and cannot represent that key
[13:19] <flog> mgedmin: sounds possible. Since showkey returned 374 on the key in question.
[13:20] <octav1a> Working with a scientific program that outputs tsv data. I will make some small change and run it again. I am looking for any tsv viewer program which would be able to auto-refresh whenever the file changes.
[13:20] <octav1a> Is this a thing?
[13:21] <mgedmin> actually, if there's a key grab, xdev should see some events, but I don't reall which ones (focuslost? keymapnotify?)
[13:21] <mgedmin> s/xdev/xev/
[13:23] <flog> mgedmin: seems like i3 handles keycodes aswell as keysymbols so i should be good.
[13:24] <mgedmin> you can also evemu-record to see the key event at a slightly higher level
[13:25] <mgedmin> the same event would be seen by Xorg's evdev input driver and converted into a keycode (which then would get converted to a keysym by XKB)
[13:55] <felco_> getting this when apt update: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-backports/universe/dep11/Components-amd64.yml.xz  Hash Sum mismatch
[13:56] <felco_> tried tree different mirrors and the sha256 is the same: 4e6996929ae8a3dccd0e59d88524101a158be2867e68e46e685814cc54a96bc8
[13:56] <felco_> expected: 091b0327b6cfef60f70a6db0c3066dfa42a84b0d776a23c172845e14e23728a4
[14:01] <Assid> hi
[14:01] <Assid> how do i disable ntp from using the dhcp ntp clients
[15:02] <zprd> hi all
[15:02] <lotuspsychje> welcome zprd
[15:02] <zprd> centos 8 is released, when can I expect an lxc template for it?
[15:03] <zprd> (using ubuntu lts)
[15:03] <lotuspsychje> zprd: this si the ubuntu support channel here
[15:03] <zprd> are lxc template independent from ubuntu release?
[15:03] <zprd> templates*
[15:04] <hggdh> zprd: try the #lxcontainers channel
[15:05] <zprd> do we fetch template from a/their central repo?
[15:05] <zprd> or is it in hands of ubuntu
[15:08] <hggdh> zprd: the LXC folks create/maintain the images on their own
[15:08] <zprd> ok i'll ask on #lxcontainers then
[16:18] <wonko> I'm getting these: [116271.745878] xhci_hcd 0000:81:00.0: WARN Event TRB for slot 7 ep 12 with no TDs queued?
[16:19] <wonko> ALl the googling I did points to issues from years ago that should be long since patched
[16:19] <wonko> any idea if this is something valuable or just noise? I do have a usb device that wants to reconnect randomly that maybe is related to that or maybe not at all related I have no idea. :)
[16:20] <lotuspsychje> wonko: its always useful for our supporters to have a bit more details then that, like ubuntu version, kernel and a pastebin of your full logs/dmesg can help alot
[16:21] <sarnold> I'm wondering if there's no recent results if folks have discardewd whatever it was that spew these things
[16:21] <wonko> Ubuntu 19.04, 5.0.0-29-lowlatency, dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7ywYGxd8c9/
[16:22] <wonko> sarnold: from what I can tell it may been a spurious warning that shouldn't be printed, but that was patched back in like 3.7 or something
[16:22] <wonko> may have been. I can grammar.
[16:22] <wonko> https://lore.kernel.org/patchwork/patch/860018/
[16:22] <wonko> oh, 4.14
[16:22] <wonko> close enough. :)
[16:23] <wonko> but if that was patched that means this is maybe an actual warning?
[16:23] <pragmaticenigma> !enter | wonko
[16:23] <pragmaticenigma> wonko: Where/how did you install that kernel?
[16:23] <iffraff> Hi I'm having trouble with my login intermitantly entering a loop.  I looked at journalctl and I see a bunch of errors like this and am wondering if anyone knows what they might mean and/or if they are relivant to my problem.
[16:23] <iffraff>  ACPI BIOS Error (bug): Could not resolve [\_SB.PCI0.XDCI], AE_NOT_FOUND (20181213/dswload2-160)
[16:23] <iffraff> Sep 24 12:08:30 raif kernel: ACPI Error: AE_NOT_FOUND, During name lookup/catalog (20181213/psobject-221)
[16:23] <iffraff> Sep 24 12:08:30 raif kernel: ACPI: Skipping parse of AML opcode: Scope (0x0010)
[16:23] <wonko> It's Ubuntu Studio 19.04 and they install it
[16:24] <pragmaticenigma> wonko: Perhaps ask in #ubuntu-studio ... they're going to be more familiar with their environment setup. Currently that is not a kernel that is included with the standard Ubuntu desktops (to my knowledge)
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> studio got those lowlatency kernels indeed
[16:25] <wonko> pragmaticenigma: They don't know, that's why I'm here. It's technically not their kernel. :)
[16:25] <lotuspsychje> but is your system up to date also wonko ?
[16:25] <wonko> yes
[16:26] <lotuspsychje> wonko: how about your bios up to date?
[16:26] <pragmaticenigma> wonko: Besides a mouse and keyboard, do you have any other USB devices attached to your system?
[16:26] <sarnold> iffraff: it'd be worth looking for bios updates from your laptop vendor
[16:28] <iffraff> sarnold: unfortunately, I have a window machine repaved with ubuntu 18.04. and hp doesn't make a linux update.  In fact they say "linux should have everything you need"
[16:28] <iffraff> I have a vm with windows on it but I'm pretty sure I couldn't effect bios from with in a VM could I?
[16:29] <wonko> pragmaticenigma: Yes, MIDI keyboard, MIDI control surface, webcam and Komplete Audio 6.
[16:29] <pragmaticenigma> iffraff: It wouldn't be recommended
[16:29] <wonko> oh look, Asus just released a new bios for this machine. More than 2 years after the previous one!
[16:30] <iffraff> pragmaticenigma: well, in general I'm sure, for this edge case I don't see it posing any danger, other than I think vm's are pretty much locked down to their sandbox
[16:30] <lotuspsychje> wonko: try fwupdate first, its a nice rising project with more & more brands added
[16:30] <wonko> lotuspsychje: better than making some dos boot drive or something, that's for sure. :)
[16:32] <pragmaticenigma> wonko: The other part is to disconnect all USB devices and attach one-by-one to see if the messages start appearing. The message you're seeing is related to the drivers for the USB controllers. There have been documented instances where devices are sending random data to the USB BUS when the kernel is not expecting it.
[16:34] <pragmaticenigma> iffraff: You are correct, that performing a BIOS update is next to impossible through a VM. Especially one such as Virtual Box or VMWare. Personally I don't wipe the Windows partition from my machine until the unit is completely out of service from the manufacturer. That way when issues like this happen, I can still do Firmware/BIOS updates
[16:35] <iffraff> hmmm, good to know.  I'll do that with next laptop. Unfortunately it's too late for this one
[16:35] <pragmaticenigma> iffraff: You could see if your machine is supported by fwupdate, which can help apply BIOS updates
[16:37] <iffraff> ok, never heard of them/it but I'll look it up
[16:39] <wonko> pragmaticenigma: ok, post bios update I will do that, thanks!
[16:40] <wonko> lotuspsychje: Firmware updates are supported on this machine.
[16:40] <lotuspsychje> lovely
[16:41] <iffraff> pragmaticenigma: ok, I see, it says that gnome has fwupdate and will run it when checking for software upates.  perhaps this is what hp means by linux should have what you need
[16:42] <wonko> lotuspsychje: I didn't have high expectations.
[17:05] <ericus> Just built a new PC and installed Windows on it, half of the SSD
[17:05] <ericus> Now trying to install Ubuntu with encryption aloneside
[17:06] <ericus> Alongside*
[17:06] <ericus> Given the option to install alongside or "Something else"
[17:06] <iffraff> So I believe I have an issue because I have three gpus, onboard, descrete and external.  Intermitantly my login goes into a loop, it's about 50% I'm not sure how to go about trouble shooting it
[17:07] <sarnold> what does it mean for a "login to go into a loop"?
[17:08] <iffraff> sarnold: well, you enter password, it thinks about it then refreshes the login page, so no error.  it's the correct password it just loops
[17:10] <sarnold> iffraff: can you login at a text console?
[17:10] <iffraff> yes
[17:11] <iffraff> consistently, but the gui is intermitant
[17:11] <sarnold> good good..
[17:11] <sarnold> is there anything in journalctl output at the time of trying? eg login, run journalctl -f, then switch to gui and try logging in, then bacvk to text to see what it reports
[17:15] <iffraff> hmmm, ok great idea.  unfortunately I'm knee deep in work and don't want to log out of all that.  perhaps I can look at the journalctr at the time I logged in this moring.
[17:16] <sarnold> yeah that should work too, it's just a bit harder to find what happened at the same time by coincidence vs what happened due to the login attempt
[17:18] <iffraff> understood. crap, I have 9 files is -b 9 the oldest or the youngest
[17:18] <iffraff> oh, i see. nm
[17:22] <iffraff> I'm sorry how do you get the current system tiem in console?
[17:22] <sarnold> date or date -u
[17:22] <sarnold> depending if you want a local timezone or utc
[17:22] <iffraff> I guess I want whatever the computer's logging at
[17:25] <sarnold> that gets complicated; different programs can run with different timezones. I'm not sure which logging methods use timezoned-times vs utc times. journalctl -o short-full, -o short-precise, -o short-iso, etc present different timestamp outputs that hopefully know how to report when exactly they were logged correctly
[17:26] <iffraff> na I'm sorry I think I'm good on the time part
[17:26] <iffraff> I'm getting a s ton of this
[17:26] <iffraff>  apparmor="DENIED" operation="open" profile="snap.gnome-system-monitor.gnome-system-monitor" name="/run/mount/utab" pid=4740 comm="gnome-system-mo" requested_mask="r" denied_mask="r" fsuid=1000 ouid=0
[17:26] <iffraff> but I don't think that's relivant
[17:27] <vlt> Hello. On Ubuntu 18.04 I installed the current Google Chrome Version 77.0.3865.90 from their official .deb pkg. I still have problems playing back video (Amazon, Netflix). In chrome://components there’s nothing calles "widevine". Any idea how to proceed?
[17:28] <iffraff> so I'm also getting a s ton of logs starting with this
[17:28] <iffraff> /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[2590]: (II) AMDGPU(0):
[17:28] <iffraff> and my amd is the external gpu that I am actually using
[17:29] <sarnold> iffraff: yeah those gnome system monitor apparmor denials are probably unrelated but it'd be worth a report about that in #snapcraft or #snappy or wherever they live :) heh
[17:30] <sarnold> iffraff: those II lines are informational; warnings would be WW, errors EE
[17:30] <sarnold> iffraff: those come from Xorg
[17:30] <sarnold> vlt: probably a chrome support group would be best suited to support chrome
[17:31] <vlt> sarnold: Thank you.
[17:31] <iffraff> sarnold: so is there anything I might grep for? or perhaps I could post a pastebin of the file? although it's prett big
[17:32] <sarnold> iffraff: I'm not sure what to suggest to grep for, I'm not sure what we're fishing for yet :) a pastebin could work, if it fits, hehe
[17:34] <iffraff> https://termbin.com/rnncg
[17:34] <iffraff> so I logged in at around or just before 8:00 AM today so sep 25
[17:35] <sarnold> bugger, it gets cut off at Sep 24 17:55:44
[17:36] <iffraff> crap, let me try this
[17:36] <iffraff> https://termbin.com/9ip6
[17:37] <iffraff> shite
[17:37] <mouses> vlt: For netflix - it works in Chrom(ium) under linux with no plugins required - make sure your settings / account are set to use the HTML5 player
[17:37] <mouses> same with Amazon streaming
[17:39] <iffraff> sarnold: I'll have to log off like you suggested.  I'll be back on here in a little bit.
[17:45] <IkoIko> ?
[17:46] <sarnold> !
[17:46] <tomreyn> !
[17:50] <ericus> Do I choose physical volume for encryption when installing Ubuntu encrypted alongside win10?
[17:51] <ericus> What about /swap and /boot
[17:53] <sarnold> ericus: you can use a swap file within the filesystem and skip the dedicated swap partition.. i'm less sure about boot. when I followed a zfs-on-root-with-luks guide, /boot wasn't on luks, I don't think..
[17:54] <ericus> I should be fine just creating root?
[17:55] <ericus> What about grub? I just tried with other partitions, booted straight into win
[17:57] <iffraff> sarnold: so... it seems I know how to get to the command prompt, but I don't know how to get back to the gui.
[17:57] <sarnold> iffraff: control alt f7 or control alt f1 or control alt f2 .. try em all, one should do it :)
[17:57] <iffraff> any ideas? I'm doing like cmd f2 to get to cli
[17:58] <sarnold> ericus: be sure to use window's "reboot" option rather than "shutdown". shutdown is just a suspend for windows these days.
[17:58] <iffraff> k
[17:58] <ericus> I did
[17:59] <ericus> Ä
[17:59] <ericus> Oops
[18:07] <elias_a> ericus: Oh - you're from some of the nordic countries? :)
[18:08] <ericus> Sweden
[18:08] <ericus> This isnt working out
[18:09] <ericus> From the free space I create a /boot
[18:09] <ericus> Then physical volume for encryption
[18:17] <iffraff> sarnold: hey, so... I did seem a small amount of information come up, but I could remember it all.  they it took me 10 times to freakin get back in.
[18:17] <sarnold> iffraff: ugh :(
[18:17] <iffraff> not sure if there's a way to , hmm, I should have written it to a file
[18:18] <iffraff> I mean it's crazy for on e single minute there are 1000's of lines in this thing
[18:18] <iffraff> could I do something like journalctl > myfile.txt
[18:19] <sarnold> yeah
[18:19] <sarnold> then trim it to the lines you remember
[18:20] <NyteRukh> hello
[18:21] <iffraff> na, I mean from the cli.  Ill do ctrl f2 then journal and it should give me what just happened right?
[18:21] <iffraff> so Ii could do journalctl > mytext.txt
[18:21] <iffraff> ?
[18:21] <uRock> In fstab, if I change nouid to uid=1000 on an EXT4 partition, will I then be able to send files to trash in PCmanFM?
[18:35]  * uRock thinks he scared everyone off or something.
[18:37] <iffraff> sarnold: Hey I thihk I got something here
[18:37] <iffraff> https://termbin.com/d4ce
[18:38] <iffraff> I think it starts right at the top.  so i did the journal -f then went to login.  I did the login 3x then bac to the cli to stop it.  so I think the start is where the good stuff is
[18:39] <sarnold> iffraff: nice...
[18:39] <iffraff> also, it's worth mentioning, that my system doesn't really shut down gracefully
[18:39] <iffraff> 9 out of10 times looks like it's gonna reboot but then starts cycling the monitor on and off.  and eventually I hard kill it
[18:42] <sarnold> iffraff: my guess is this is the Important Part of the log http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rWkTSPrxvZ/
[18:43] <iffraff> yes, certainly the last two lines seem important.  I don't really understand the rest
[18:43] <sarnold> iffraff: those.. the backtrace doesn't at all related..
[18:44] <wonko> Boo. Updated my BIOS now my computer won't boot.
[18:49] <sarnold> wonko: o_O
[18:50] <iffraff> sarnold: you think the failure of my system to shut down properly may have something to do with it?
[18:51] <sarnold> iffraff: it miiiight be related, but I'm not sure which to blame with cause vs effect. I haven't really understood monitors for a few years now..
[18:51] <iffraff> yes it's very confusing.
[18:52] <ericus> Can someone help me with this dual boot issue?
[18:52] <ericus> New PC, Windows runs
[18:53] <ericus> I left half the disk for Ubuntu
[18:53] <ericus> I want to encrypt it
[18:55] <ericus> During installation I choose "Something else" under install type (cause other option is to wipe the entire disk)
[18:56] <ericus> I see my win-partitions. /dev/nvme0n1
[18:57] <ericus> nvme0n1p1 ntfs 554MB
[18:57] <ericus> p2 fat32 103 MB
[18:58] <ericus> p3 16 MB unknown
[18:59] <ericus> p4 is the rest of the Windows storage
[18:59] <jil> hello
[18:59] <ericus> How do I partiton that left over space to work with encrypted Ubuntu?
[19:00] <jil> I need to compile a progam requireing Gcc 7 or above but I don't find it in my pakage.  How can I upgrade my gcc compiler to version 7
[19:00] <jil> sorry, let me check gcc.gnu.org first.
[19:01] <akemhp> jil, You should have gcc > 7.0 with Ubuntu 18.04.
[19:01] <sarnold> ericus: it's been a while since I've seen the installer but I thought it had a handy button for "encrypt the filesystem" and also let you pick the free space to use to partition...
[19:01] <akemhp> 7.4.0 here.
[19:01] <ericus> sarnold yes for a fresh install that works
[19:02] <ericus> But there already is an OS on this disk
[19:02] <sarnold> jil: sudo apt install gcc-7
[19:02] <sarnold> ericus: so you've got no free space? I *think* our installer can shrink windows filesystems but that worries me. make sure you've got backups before you try.
[19:03] <ericus> I got free space, 200 GB
[19:04] <sarnold> ah good. then you should be able to create a partition in that free space, select the "encrypt the drive" button, and install
[19:04] <ericus> But the installer recognizes another OS and The only option I got is to manually partition it
[19:04] <ericus> No you got me wrong
[19:08] <jil> unfortunately sarnold and akemhp I'm on a recent version of mint which does not yet bundle gcc-7 via apt...but I found a work arround.  Thank you
[19:09] <tomreyn> !mint | jil
[19:09] <uRock> What's Mint?
[19:11] <sarnold> uRock: mint's a rebuild of ubuntu
[19:11] <ericus> Gonna try this sarnold https://medium.com/@chrishantha/encrypting-disks-on-ubuntu-19-04-b50bfc65182a
[19:11] <sarnold> uRock: they replaced the UI with their own window manager, etc
[19:12] <uRock> sarnold, I was being a smarty
[19:12] <sarnold> ah :)
[19:15] <uRock> sarnold, though I do get how some situations have the same fix no matter how derived from Debian the distro may be.
[19:23] <wonko> Ah ha! The BIOS update reset all the bios settings. Thanks Asus!
[19:25] <sarnold> "warning, we're going to make your computer unbootable, have fun with that"
[19:26] <akemhp> Well when you flash something it's usually reseted.
[19:29] <iffraff> my cpus keep getting throttled but my core temps are all in the 60 degree range
[19:29] <wonko> Took me a while to realize it was trying to legacy boot from a UEFI volumew
[19:30] <doug16k> wonko, I've never seen a bios update that does not clear the cmos
[19:31] <wonko> I don't do a lot of BIOS updates. :)
[19:31] <doug16k> seems to be a superstition held by every firmware, "but, but, what if the format of the data changed?"
[20:06] <CarlFK>  if I sudo dpkg -i linux-image-5.3.0-torv...deb, how do i remove it?
[20:08] <blizzow> Is there a way to use add-apt-repository to add a repo and the keys for jenkins? They have their own repo and the instructions to add the repo are that ugly wget http://keysite/foo.key|sudo apt-key add && echo https://path/to/repo>/etc/apt/sources.list.d/repo.list garbage.
[20:09] <tomreyn> CarlFK: hmm, so -i is for install, what could it be for remove?
[20:09] <tomreyn> !man | CarlFK
[20:09] <CarlFK> tomreyn: -r gave me an error - bt this wprks : sudo apt remove linux-image-5.3.0-torv-noviz
[20:10] <tomreyn> CarlFK: it's actualyl better to use apt there indeed, to ensure that dependencies are satisfied after removal.
[20:12] <tomreyn> blizzow: add-apt-repository would need to know where to find the key, but maybe you can tell it - i do not know (but the man page probably does)
[20:18] <nate> Anyone here by chance have luck with installing on recent-ish HP laptop models (like things made in the past few years?).  Got an envy that's being an absolute pain apparently cause of the IntelHD chipset, installs okay but just boots to a cursor screen and the old `nomodeset screen` method doesn't seem to work anymore
[20:18] <OerHeks> blizzow, nope. as the repo is outside the launchpad environment, so does the key. this page https://wiki.jenkins.io/display/JENKINS/Installing+Jenkins+on+Ubuntu  is your help
[20:18] <nate> at least I'm -pretty sure- it's an IntelHD issue, this is seemingly identical to previous issues I've had with IntelHD laptops
[20:19] <gunix> i have a feeling he knows that
[20:19] <gunix> i have no idea why i wrote this here. please excuse me
[20:19] <OerHeks> :-)
[20:23] <tomreyn> nate: post the output of   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999     to share a system log with us and have someone review it.
[20:24] <nate> tomreyn: That's kind of the problem, I can't even get into a console view to do so
[20:24] <tomreyn> nate: neither with recovery?
[20:25] <nate> Ditto, it just boots into a blank screen with a flashing cursor at the corner, which as far as I've run into in the past usually meant some sort of graphic chipset/driver issue, but it used to be that `nomodeset splash` would launch a bare limited terminal view, it unfortunately isn't in this case
[20:26] <nate> It's likely worth noting that I have to literally force the USB installer to run in a non-UEFI boot, it wigs out bad in UEFI mode (ie; as soon as you hit install of any sort it just pops up a black box in the middle of the screen).  I fear the laptop might have a bit of a buggered BIOS/UEFI
[20:26] <tomreyn> is another OS installed and working?
[20:27] <nate> Yeah it had windows on it previously rolling fine, I had wiped that but since installed Win10 to do a BIOS firmware update hoping that might resolve it all, but to no avail, still does the same
[20:28] <tomreyn> so the firmware is up to date now?
[20:28] <anxion> nate: i had the same problem with my navi10 card until i "installed" the firmware blob. ubuntu netinstall worked - after that i fixed the efi boot
[20:28] <nate> Yeah, BIOS is as up to date as HP has.  I figured I'd just ask in here and wait for replies while I try to see if it's booting in enough that I might be able to SSH in
[20:28] <tomreyn> and it boots windows fine but not linux?
[20:28] <nate> Yeah
[20:29] <tomreyn> have you configured windows to actually shutdown fully, not just pretend to?
[20:29] <nate> Both Win8 (original Windows on it) and Win 10 work fine, it's just *nix, especially any ubuntu or ubuntu fork I've used
[20:29] <nate> Oh yeah no windows is gone
[20:29] <nate> I formatted and all lol
[20:29] <nate> I wasn't trying to dual boot it
[20:30] <tomreyn> can you boot it in uefi mode from an ubuntu installer?
[20:31] <nate> Nup, the USB installer/image -boots- into the like a UEFI installer screen, but as soon as you hit install it just pops up a black box in the middle of the screen and does nothing.  And it shouldn't be secure boot since that's off
[20:31] <tomreyn> ah sorry you said this before.
[20:31] <nate> If I can't get SSH'd in I'll start over again and take some images of stuff for better show
[20:32] <tomreyn> !bootlog | nate
[20:32] <tomreyn> ...and remove "splash" and "quiet"
[20:33] <nate> If I can get in yeah, well first thing I'll probably do if I can get SSH'd in over the LAN is run an apt upgrade and see if I'm lucky enough that might fetch necessary stuff lol
[20:33] <nate> Splash wasn't there originally, quiet was though, I'll try to remove quiet
[20:34] <tomreyn> yes, do the upgrade, reboot, see if it helped, whether or not it helped, share the latest systemd journal here.
[21:10] <CrazySam> loading loading ...
[21:11] <CrazySam> does it take more than 10 minutes to finish loading ubuntu 19.04 after software?
[21:11] <CrazySam> fresh clean install on an older intel system
[21:12] <CrazySam> i opted not to update during installation, so i was prompted to do so once i signed in
[21:12] <CrazySam> after update all i see is the ubuntu logo and 5 animating dots
[21:14] <nate> tomreyn: Okay so I decided to grab the 18 LTS, built a new bootable, have the laptop set in UEFI mode w/ no secure boot, rather than a blank screen with no cursor I get a no-cursor blank screen now when trying to launch the installer, even w/ quiet and splash removed
[21:14] <nate> Gonna try and enable legacy mode and see what happens
[21:17] <nate> okay so legacy mode on I got some sort of splash screen (showed a keyboard and a person icon at the bottom?) which hitting ESC on at least seems to get me into some setup GUI
[21:17] <CrazySam> CrazySam, you should try an unexpected reboot on its ass
[21:18] <nate> Unfortunately choosing the "Install Ubuntu" from that screen gives me the blank screen with a flashing cursor, hrm
[21:18] <CrazySam> CrazySam, thanks! that helped
[21:20] <CrazySam> CrazySam, after a reboot i am back at point a
[21:20] <tomreyn> nate: hmm and the system installe don disk is which?
[21:21] <nate> one sec, made some progress, removed quiet splash and added nomodeset, got some terminal display during install but now it seems to be froze up
[21:22] <tomreyn> keep trying to get to a shell, be it local or remote via ssh, then post the log
[21:23] <tomreyn> if it continues like this, try booting also with the boot options i listed previously, this hould provide more output on what's happening.
[21:24] <tomreyn> yet more boot options you can try (one by one): dis_ucode_ldr mitigations=no
[21:25] <tomreyn> CrazySam: i suggest you do a bios upgrade.
[21:25] <tomreyn> !recovery | CrazySam
[21:26] <nate> Well right now I'm just trying to get it to -install- again lol, the 18 LTS is being more of a problem to even install than the other.  It's seemingly hanging on this during install now https://i.imgur.com/SGX4Ggh.jpg
[21:27] <CrazySam> how do i shut down safely?
[21:28] <nate> A fast googling seems to imply I need to temporarily add a boot parameter to the install kernel?
[21:29] <CrazySam> crayon, ctrl+alt+del
[21:29] <CrazySam> oops
[21:29] <CrazySam> CrazySam, , ctrl+alt+del
[21:32] <nate> Hm I wonder if that halt is what's going on under the UEFI as well
[21:34] <nate> tomreyn: Ahhhhhh it's alive!  Gave acpi=off a shot, and magic happened :P
[21:34] <nate> gonna try it in UEFI mode too
[21:35] <nate> oh wait maybe not, lol, it went though all the console loggery but now it's sitting on a blank screen with a mouse cursor but nothing else, and the laptop mouse touchpad isn't moving the mouse, so maybe only jumped a hurdle lol
[21:36] <tomreyn> nate: but can you switch to a tty?
[21:36] <tomreyn> !tty
[21:37] <tomreyn> CrazySam: are you aware that you're talking to yourself there?
[21:41] <CrazySam> tomreyn, hello!
[21:42] <CrazySam> someone finally talks to me :p
[21:43] <CrazySam> so what's the deal with this new ubuntu? it allows me to install proprietary drivers at install screen and it boots fine the first time. then it starts freezing at next boot
[21:44] <CrazySam> i sovled it by adding nomodeset param to grub
[21:44] <CrazySam> i can not reboot and boot up normally but my graphics are all messed up
[21:44] <CrazySam> vga resolution
[21:44] <CrazySam> https://itsfoss.com/fix-ubuntu-freezing/
[21:46] <CrazySam> i followed these instructions, and according to the author this is more of nvidia problem, and as a last resort he suggests installing proprietary nvidia drivers as the open source nvidia drivers have shown to be very bad and cause this type of problem
[21:46] <CrazySam> the only problem is that my system does not have any nvidia component in it
[21:46] <CrazySam> intel cpu, and amd gpu
[21:46] <CrazySam> old, but ok
[21:47] <nate> tomreyn: Is there any specific step of the install process I should try that?
[21:47] <CrazySam> not sure what to do next?... other than be happy with vga resolution and move on
[21:47] <uRock> I have  laptop where the nvidia driver installed by default. I had to log in using recovery mode and uninstall the driver.
[21:48] <CrazySam> i did check the box install third party software during install of ubuntu 19.04
[21:48] <CrazySam> maybe i should not have done that? but it booted normally the first time...
[21:50] <CrazySam> i don't have time for this so i will just reinstall the whole damn thing and make sure not to check the third party box this time
[21:50] <sarnold> CrazySam: check out what driver your card is supposed to use
[21:50] <IcemanV9> CrazySam: something had changed after the first time boot??
[21:50] <sarnold> CrazySam: amd's got two series of drivers, amdgpu for newer ones, and .. uh .. older stuff for older ones
[21:50] <sarnold> CrazySam: if you're using the newer amdgpu drivers make sure you've got the linux-firmware package installed, I think it supplies the necessary blobs for the cards. no idea what to do with the older drivers..
[21:51] <nate> tomreyn: I think I'm in, I set it back to UEFI mode instead of legacy, did a boot w/ quiet splash nomodeset acpi=off and I am currently in the interactive UEFI installer GUI, woo :P
[21:53] <CrazySam> sarnold, i have no idea tbh
[21:54] <CrazySam> why am i as user supposed to make sure of all this? isn't there dependency resolution and such in linux world?
[21:55] <CrazySam> IcemanV9, the only thing that changed is that i signed in and allowed it to install some updates.
[21:55] <sarnold> CrazySam: most folks with funny hardware just click the box and get magic features.. but the vendors of funny hardware think things have a shorter lifetime than the users often do :)
[21:55] <CrazySam> i didn't bother scrutinizing what updates there were, but basic stuff i suppose, like firefox
[21:57] <CrazySam> sarnold, are you calling me a clown?
[21:57] <tomreyn> those kernel parameters i've given you you'd use when booting the already installed or the installer system.
[21:57] <CrazySam> ;)
[21:57] <tomreyn> !kernelparm | nate
[21:58] <tomreyn> nate: the line above this was also for you
[21:58] <sarnold> CrazySam: <@:)
[21:59] <CrazySam> a clown with funny hardware -> CrazySam
[21:59] <CrazySam> with zig zag box and everything
[21:59] <tomreyn> CrazySam: i had previously tlked to you, suggesting a bios upgrade
[22:01] <CrazySam> tomreyn, hi! yeah, i know. i decided to ignore your suggestion.
[22:01] <CrazySam> tomreyn, why would i upgrade the bios? and what to?
[22:01] <cnnx> freecad doesnt work in ubuntu package manager
[22:01] <cnnx> im on 18.04 i think
[22:01] <ericus> Can someone help me with dual boot Windows and encrypted Ubuntu?
[22:02] <tomreyn> CrazySam: i'd try to help, but i decided to ignore your question.
[22:03] <tomreyn> nate: good that uefi now boots, though :)
[22:03] <sarnold> ericus: that guide looked alright, where'd it go wrong?
[22:03] <ericus> No UFI it says..
[22:04] <ericus> So I deleted the existing one and made a new, no luck
[22:04] <sarnold> so you're booting legacy?
[22:04] <ericus> UEFI
[22:04] <ericus> Sorry EFI, not UFI
[22:05] <CrazySam> tomreyn, no problem. i understand you just want to help, and i appreciate that!  i just don't see that happening because it's an old system, where bios really means bios, and there is not much to upgrade to.
[22:06] <tomreyn> nate: if it depends on acpi=off then maybe you'll have more luck with http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[22:09] <tomreyn> CrazySam: it can still solve issues in earlier bios versions which linux then needs to work around (or maybe cannot work around, resulting in issues like you're seeing). but indeed it was a shot in the dark. until we can see a system journal log from your system it's just guessing. try some kernel / boot parameters if you haven't.
[22:09] <tomreyn> !kernelparm | CrazySam
[22:09] <tomreyn> remove "quiet" and "splash", add "nosplash" and these:
[22:10] <tomreyn> !bootlog
[22:10] <tomreyn> CrazySam: this shuld at least print something on screen, hinting on where it's failing.
[22:14] <tomreyn> ericus: so windows is already booting in uefi mode and now you're trying to install ubuntu so it will also boot from uefi, and share the same storage with the windows installation?
[22:14] <ericus> Yes
[22:14] <tomreyn> (...and use full disk encryption)
[22:14] <tomreyn> ericus: whch ubuntu version are you installing (ISO file name)?
[22:15] <CrazySam> tomreyn, it has something to do with graphics drivers i think. the author of which suggested adding "nomodeset" param and that eliminated the boot problem, but left me with very low resolution
[22:15] <tomreyn> ericus: desktop, server? some !flavor?
[22:15] <ericus> Full disk as in "full disk" for the Ubuntu part of it.
[22:15] <OerHeks> CrazySam, and what older amd gpu do you have?
[22:15] <ericus> Desktop, 18.04 LTS
[22:15] <tomreyn> ericus: 18.04.0 then?
[22:16] <ericus> 18.04.03
[22:16] <ericus> 18.04.3*
[22:17] <tomreyn> okay, i'd expect this to work fine if you select to install side by side with windows and enable the full disk encryption option. it could be, though, that the full disk encryption option does not show when you choose to install side by side with windows.
[22:18] <tomreyn> that's something i just don't know
[22:18] <ericus> The only option given is to erase the entire disk and install Ubuntu or "Something else"
[22:18] <tomreyn> "something else" definitely sounds better then
[22:18] <tomreyn> and then there are no more otions?
[22:18] <ericus> Meaning manually partitioning
[22:19] <ericus> No other options, no
[22:19] <tomreyn> oh, this seems to suggest you booted in legacy bios mode
[22:19] <CrazySam> OerHeks, radeon hd 6850
[22:19] <nate> tomreyn: Unfortunately to access /sys/firmware/acpi you can't do acpi=off I believe, and I have to do acpi=off to even get booted in UEFI
[22:19] <ericus> I have the option to go for legacy+UEFI or just UEFI
[22:20] <ericus> Tried both. Gonna make a fresh install of Windows again and try, what option should I choose?
[22:21] <CrazySam> ubuntu 19.04 reinstalled, this time third party box was off and update during install was off, and i refused to do the update after first sign in
[22:21] <CrazySam> after a reboot i see the same problem as before
[22:22] <CrazySam> "a start job is running for "Hold" until boot process finishes up" 6 mins and counting
[22:22] <tomreyn> ericus: just uefi should be fine (assuming windows is installed in uefi mode). from the ubuntu installer usb you can start a live system, open a terminal (ctrl-alt-t) and see what it returns: ls /sys/firmware/efi
[22:22] <tomreyn> ericus: if this directory exists (and its contents are listed, no error message is returned) then your usb booted in uefi mode.
[22:23] <ericus> Do I want it to boot in UEFI?
[22:23] <tomreyn> nate: i don't think you need to access /sys/firmware/acpi until after you installed, though.
[22:23] <CrazySam> it wasn't meant to be i guess
[22:23] <tomreyn> ericus: you do, if windows is installed in uefi mode.
[22:24] <CrazySam> ok, i'm in again
[22:24] <Betal> can't grub from mbr hdd boot windows in gpt hdd?
[22:24] <CrazySam> solution: smashing function and control keys at random
[22:25] <ericus> I'm gonna try again tomreyn
[22:25] <ericus> Just need to flash a usb
[22:26] <Betal> if ericus gonna share same /efi partition over windows and linux, probably is better to have /boot on separate partition, no?
[22:26] <nate> tomreyn: Ah, hm, I'll double check
[22:26] <Betal> so there is no way to windows screw up the linux install at all
[22:27] <ericus> I will install Linux after Windows
[22:32] <CrazySam> i'm done bashing keys for today, i'm off to bed. bye irc! bye internet!
[22:43] <tomreyn> Betal: if you don't add a separate /boot partition and file system then the /boot directory goes on the same file system as the root directory. so i don't think it makes a difference, does it?
[22:45] <Betal> tomreyn: yes. All depends how you want to setup things, as I like to use lvm for linux, usually I will have /efi and ensure /boot out of the lvm
[22:49] <ericus> Alright. Fresh install of Windows 10 Pro, flashing a USB with Ubuntu now
[22:49] <ericus> Again...
[22:49] <tomreyn> Betal: yes, and ericus is looking to have storage encryption on ubuntu, so (at least while using the installer) they'll need to have a separate boot, too.
[22:50] <ericus> Rebooting into Ubuntu installer now, 200GB free disk space alongside Windows
[22:53] <ericus> https://irc.ericus.se/uploads/2c0922751df1d3cd/15694519770222185647053061869918.jpg
[22:53] <ericus> Greeted by that, choosing Something else
[22:54] <ericus> https://irc.ericus.se/uploads/3439191514b17091/15694520280928875782686701721069.jpg
[22:54] <ericus> Then what?
[22:55] <ericus> The guide I followed earlier didnt work.
[22:55] <tomreyn> ericus: if you install alongside windows, then you can't encrypt, you say?
[22:55] <ChiLLabiS> So why do i need to add a different PPA to install from WineHQ on Bionic?
[22:56] <tomreyn> ChiLLabiS: because winehq is not part of bionic.
[22:56] <ericus> https://medium.com/@chrishantha/encrypting-disks-on-ubuntu-19-04-b50bfc65182a
[22:57] <ChiLLabiS> yeah but there is a package needed from wineHQ's ppa that isn't there. I need to add a ppa that has nothing to do with either Ubuntu or Wine? :S
[22:57] <ericus> I cant even get it to boot. Windows will boot automatically, I want grub
[22:57] <ChiLLabiS> Some audio package
[22:57] <OerHeks> ChiLLabiS, ask the maintainer of that ppa? that would be in #winehq
[22:58] <ChiLLabiS> Will do, OerHeks tomreyn !
[22:59] <tomreyn> ericus: so which encryption are you planning to have? this article discusses fscrypt, a utility managing ext4 file system encryption (which is not integrated into the installer) as well as dmcrypt-luks (which i would recommend for your use case) as well as the now legacy ecryptfs.
[22:59] <OerHeks> ChiLLabiS,  find some reporst about missing libfaudio0:i386
[23:00] <ericus> Lets say I skip encryption tomreyn. Would I just go for a root partition then?
[23:00] <OerHeks> https://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu gives libfaudio0 packages can be downloaded from the OBS. See https://forum.winehq.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=32192 for details
[23:00] <OerHeks> .. nothing we can do about it :-(
[23:01] <TJ-> ericus: I wrote an article on doing FDE from the installer which might help understand the options https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[23:01] <sarnold> TJ-: dude, a million internet points for putting the year in the title
[23:01] <TJ-> :p
[23:01] <sarnold> TJ-: way too many guides written for linux old.ancient still clutter up the internet and search rankings and so on..
[23:02] <OerHeks> yeah, bing gives better result now.
[23:02] <ericus> Thanks TJ-!
[23:02] <sarnold> "current (hopelessly out-of-date and inadequate) FullDiskEncryptionHowto page" yes this problem exactly :D
[23:05] <tomreyn> ericus: i'll be happy to help you examine the manual partitioning path if we have established that you cannot just choose "install alongside windows" and still have full disk encryption.
[23:05] <TJ-> I should have added to the URL "Fully_Illustrated" :D
[23:05] <sarnold> TJ-: beautiful guide, thanks
[23:05] <sarnold> yes :D
[23:06] <Galactor> How would I make a custom shell command? for example, lets say I am always having to type "sudo systemctl restart NetworkManager" because of my faulty hardware, but I would rather just type "fixnet" instead to input the command. how would I do that?
[23:06] <uRock> that's an alias
[23:06] <ericus> I cant just choose that tomreyn :(
[23:07] <ericus> So yeah, please help me :)
[23:08] <tomreyn> ericus: it's pre-selected on your screenshot at https://irc.ericus.se/uploads/2c0922751df1d3cd/15694519770222185647053061869918.jpg - are you saying the button to proceed is disabled while this option is selected?
[23:08] <sarnold> Galactor: as uRock says that could be a shell alias, but I prefer to make little tiny shell scripts for these things, since you can more easily use them from other tools besides interactive shells
[23:08] <jeremy31> Galactor: wifi?
[23:09] <tomreyn> TJ-: do you happen to know that the "install alongside windows" option will *not* work for dmcrypt-luks in EUFI mode?
[23:09] <Galactor> jeremy31: yeah. I have this old thinkpad x130e and the card just derps out
[23:10] <jeremy31> Galactor: see https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2354328&p=13614520&#post13614520
[23:10] <tomreyn> TJ-: sorry, ignore me
[23:10] <jeremy31> Galactor: the wifi power save might be causing the issue
[23:10] <Galactor> jeremy31: thanks! I'll give it a read :)
[23:10] <tomreyn> ericus: sorry, i didn't read the screen shot properly, only realize now that this is the very screen where you'd choose to enable encryption.
[23:11] <ericus> tomreyn but no option for encryption
[23:11] <FurretUber> I'm having a problem: backlight keyboard functions doesn't work. Cause: two interfaces for backlight at same time, with the one selected by the system being the one that does not work (intel_backlight). Workaround found for now, setting Xorg configuration to use the correct backlight method (cmpc_bl), but I want a more reliable solution
[23:11] <tomreyn> ericus: so then for encryption you'd best follow TJ's guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019
[23:12] <ericus> Yes, will do
[23:12] <ericus> Gonna get some sleep first, getting late here
[23:12] <ericus> Thanks to you both!
[23:13] <tomreyn> ericus: to answer your earlier question: if you chose not to have encryption, you would just have /root, yes.
[23:13] <tomreyn> ericus: see you!
[23:14] <arooni> hey team;  anyone running 18.04 and have google chrome working?  each time i try to install it it seems to crash gnome-shell
[23:14] <TJ-> Sounds like I'll have to test out the "alongside windows" option by faking an NTFS bootable partition in a VM
[23:15] <rud0lf> arooni: did you have any extensions aka plugins for chrome installed before?
[23:16] <arooni> rud0lf: i did ;  but i purged my .config/google-chrome directory  and tired to reinstall it
[23:17] <ericus> tomreyn I ran the alongside installer just to try, guess what OS boots up?...
[23:17] <arooni> gg
[23:19] <arooni> oh interesting; if i disable all gnome extensions; it works
[23:21] <tomreyn> ericus: since you're asking, i'm guessing on windows. you may need to point the uefi configuration / setup menu to the ubuntu boot loader (i.e. to grub)
[23:21] <sarnold> several times now my external monitor flickers black for five or ten seconds; these messages are in journalctl -f when it happens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2yH9HbBpY2/
[23:21] <sarnold> is this familiar to anybody? :D
[23:22] <tomreyn> looks like a suspend/resume error?
[23:22] <tomreyn> "PCI post-resume error -110!"
[23:22] <OerHeks> ugh, do a memtest86 run ?
[23:23] <sarnold> it happened once while running an apt update, once while loading a huge complicated pdf into firefox; hopefully nothing was trying to suspend at those moments :)
[23:24] <sarnold> memtest is good idea
[23:24] <tomreyn> no, no, but your system was probably having trouble returning from suspend properly, and only then it got fatal.
[23:25] <sarnold> ah :) alas no, fresh boot this morning, no suspends before hand
[23:25] <tomreyn> oh then it just entered a power saving mode due to lack of use for a while, maybe?
[23:26] <sarnold> I've had this machine a few months but only really started using it ~two weeks ago.. it worked great on the internal monitor, but gave a few problems today -- either damaged in transit, or this external monitor isn't working great
[23:27] <TJ-> sarnold: #define ETIMEDOUT       110     /* Connection timed out */
[23:28] <TJ-> sarnold: have you applied the optimal acpi_osi= option?  https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[23:28] <sarnold> TJ-: heh, I never considered that 110 might be THE 110 :
[23:28] <tomreyn> so what looks like an error code in the message really is a timeout in seconds. great job writing good error messages. :-/
[23:29] <TJ-> tomreyn: error codes are always prefixed with the negative symbol and therefore -110 in code is written as "return -ETIMEDOUT; "
[23:30] <tomreyn> ah right i was wrong, it's not a timeout in sec
[23:31] <sarnold> TJ-: very nice writeup. I'd long since forgotten about this command line option :)
[23:31] <TJ-> sarnold: I've seen that happen when the outputs aren't correctly reconfigured due it ACPI differences when not using the optimal OSI
[23:32] <sarnold> TJ-: "acp_osi" appears to be a typo in one of the text output boxes
[23:32] <TJ-> where abouts ?
[23:32] <sarnold> TJ-: very near the end, just above the Testing heading
[23:33] <TJ-> OK I see it, thanks!
[23:34] <TJ-> Fixed
[23:35] <sarnold> TJ-: hmm, this output looks like it will confuse the | sort | tail -1 part of the script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mp5DBDdJy6/
[23:35] <sarnold> TJ-: OH! you've got a 'Windows ' in the grep... not in the bit under Testing. nm. :)
[23:35] <TJ-> sarnold: you're a fab tester!
[23:36] <sarnold> TJ-: I do try to read what I'm about to execute :) hehe
[23:36] <TJ-> sorted
[23:36] <TJ-> it's only escaped notice for 2 years :)
[23:37] <sarnold> well, maybe most other people's dsdt don't have this funny extra entry? dunno :)
[23:38] <becool> how do i set dist_upgrade to true so that servers auto upgrade all packages?
[23:38] <TJ-> true, or they never tried the manual option
[23:39] <sarnold> TJ-: or were content to apply understanding to the output :) you'd already accounted for it in the script
[23:40] <arooni> anyone using google chrome on 18.04?  i have found the only way I can get it working is by disabling all gnome-shell extensions first
[23:41] <tomreyn> becool: set dist_upgrade to true where?
[23:41] <sarnold> TJ-: hey.. there's also a Windows10. is that newer or older than Windows 2015? :) apparently I don't know windows real well
[23:43] <TJ-> sarnold: I haven't used Windows since 2005 so not sure!
[23:43] <sarnold> lol
[23:43] <TJ-> sarnold: but I've not seen that listed before so it might be something 'new' we need to account for... it sounds ... "recent"
[23:43] <TJ-> and the whole idea is to select the most recent on the basis the DSDT is coded for that
[23:46] <sarnold> [drm] Reducing the compressed framebuffer size. This may lead to less power savings than a non-reduced-size. Try to increase stolen memory size if available in BIOS.
[23:46] <sarnold> very curious
[23:47] <TJ-> presumably it means it has to use a higher compression ratio requiring more CPU
[23:53] <tomreyn> this, or due to a smaller buffer it will have to calculate frames more often?
[23:56] <sarnold> I think it's to reduce memory bandwidth use (and thus power) https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/intel_graphics#Framebuffer_compression_(enable_fbc)
[23:59] <tomreyn> arch wiki is cheating.
[23:59] <sarnold> :)