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tomreynsorry for the spam. it's all in there now. i wanted to ensure we keep the official EoL page in there, which was missing previously.14:55
tomreyni.e. the "Releases" wiki page14:55
dax?14:59
daxi don't see any recent factoid edit requests. are you sure you're sending to ubottu and not one of her clones?15:01
tomreyndax: yes, i'm certain, i send it to ubottu in private messages and it responded, saying it had forwarded my edit requests15:16
tomreynoh actually it didn't say it had forwarded my edit requests, sorry15:16
tomreynit responded with   <ubottu> I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:16
tomreynhere's my edit request:15:17
tomreyn!eol endoflife end-of-life eolupgrades eolupgrade old-releases oldreleases eolupdate is <reply> End-of-Life (EoL) is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Ubuntu EoL: to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases | !Flavors: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | Extended security support: !esm15:17
ubottutomreyn: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:17
tomreynso what am i doing wrong there?15:17
dax!-eol15:28
ubottueol aliases: endoflife, end-of-life, eolupgrades, eolupgrade, old-releases, oldreleases, eolupdate - added by Seveas on 2006-09-18 04:08:52 - last edited by dax on 2019-04-22 03:01:2715:28
daxtomreyn: !no, eol is <reply> End-of-Life etc.15:28
daxtomreyn: factoids have one "master" name and can have aliases, you just mention the master name when editing. use !-foo to figure out whether "foo" is the master name or an alias (and it'll tell you what it's an alias of if so)15:29
daxi'm guessing this is why the ati one didn't show up the other day either :)15:29
daxanyway15:29
* dax takes a look at the factoid change15:29
tomreyni looked up the Factoid (master term and aliases) at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=End-of-life15:30
tomreynyou can see there how it starts with "eol "15:30
daxyeah, the list down the left is the factoid name and all of its aliases15:30
daxwhich is extra fun since it's space-delimited and factoid names can have spaces in them15:30
tomreynyes this puzzled me before15:31
dax(if it weren't effectively unmaintained, this is the bit where i'd probably say to file a bug)15:31
tomreynlimnoria isnt unmaintained, but i don't know about the factoid plugin15:32
tomreynand this may not be limnoria yet15:32
dax@version15:32
ubottuThe current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.83.4.1.  The newest version available online is 0.83.4.1.15:32
daxindeed not15:32
tomreynhttps://github.com/Supybot/Supybot/blob/master/README15:33
daxyup15:34
tomreynso...any luck with the factoid change, yet?15:43
daxdangit, sorry, got distracted pondering the limnoria situation15:44
tomreyn(if it'll take more time or you're unhappy with the change, that's fine, of course.)15:44
daxmight be simpler if we just do "For more info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases15:45
dax"15:46
daxsince [EOL] discusses e.g. ubuntu-support-status which is useful for mainline Ubuntu too15:46
daxi think the last time this came up we decided that [EOL] links to [Releases] so we didn't need to do it too, but i'm not particularly convinced by that argument15:47
daxubottu: eol =~ s%https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL%https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases%15:49
ubottuI'll remember that dax15:49
dax!eol15:49
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:49
tomreynyes, that's better. originally i had nother part in there:  Systems running after this date will accumulate security vulnerabilities, so upgrade in advance.15:52
tomreynbut trying to set this (while listing all the aliases like i did above) exceeded the line length and made my irc client wrap the line i meant to to send to ubottu15:53
tomreynbut your editing approach would work for that, if you wanted to add this statement.15:53
tomreynbut i'm happy as it is now as well. and i agree we need to keep listing both URLs (at least until we rewrite the community wiki to somehow better clarify this)15:54
tomreynTLDR: thanks for your time (and please consider adding the extra sentence, but it's just nice to have).15:55
dax!eol =~ s/stop,/stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities.%15:56
ubottuMissing end delimiter15:56
dax!eol =~ s/stop,/stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities./15:56
ubottuI'll remember that dax15:56
dax!eol15:56
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:56
dax!eol =~ s/. see/. See/15:56
ubottuI'll remember that dax15:56
dax!eol15:56
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades15:56

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