[14:55] <tomreyn> sorry for the spam. it's all in there now. i wanted to ensure we keep the official EoL page in there, which was missing previously.
[14:55] <tomreyn> i.e. the "Releases" wiki page
[14:59] <dax> ?
[15:01] <dax> i don't see any recent factoid edit requests. are you sure you're sending to ubottu and not one of her clones?
[15:16] <tomreyn> dax: yes, i'm certain, i send it to ubottu in private messages and it responded, saying it had forwarded my edit requests
[15:16] <tomreyn> oh actually it didn't say it had forwarded my edit requests, sorry
[15:16] <tomreyn> it responded with   <ubottu> I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[15:17] <tomreyn> here's my edit request:
[15:17] <tomreyn> !eol endoflife end-of-life eolupgrades eolupgrade old-releases oldreleases eolupdate is <reply> End-of-Life (EoL) is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop. Ubuntu EoL: to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases | !Flavors: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades | Extended security support: !esm
[15:17] <tomreyn> so what am i doing wrong there?
[15:28] <dax> !-eol
[15:28] <dax> tomreyn: !no, eol is <reply> End-of-Life etc.
[15:29] <dax> tomreyn: factoids have one "master" name and can have aliases, you just mention the master name when editing. use !-foo to figure out whether "foo" is the master name or an alias (and it'll tell you what it's an alias of if so)
[15:29] <dax> i'm guessing this is why the ati one didn't show up the other day either :)
[15:29] <dax> anyway
[15:29]  * dax takes a look at the factoid change
[15:30] <tomreyn> i looked up the Factoid (master term and aliases) at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=End-of-life
[15:30] <tomreyn> you can see there how it starts with "eol "
[15:30] <dax> yeah, the list down the left is the factoid name and all of its aliases
[15:30] <dax> which is extra fun since it's space-delimited and factoid names can have spaces in them
[15:31] <tomreyn> yes this puzzled me before
[15:31] <dax> (if it weren't effectively unmaintained, this is the bit where i'd probably say to file a bug)
[15:32] <tomreyn> limnoria isnt unmaintained, but i don't know about the factoid plugin
[15:32] <tomreyn> and this may not be limnoria yet
[15:32] <dax> @version
[15:32] <dax> indeed not
[15:33] <tomreyn> https://github.com/Supybot/Supybot/blob/master/README
[15:34] <dax> yup
[15:43] <tomreyn> so...any luck with the factoid change, yet?
[15:44] <dax> dangit, sorry, got distracted pondering the limnoria situation
[15:44] <tomreyn> (if it'll take more time or you're unhappy with the change, that's fine, of course.)
[15:45] <dax> might be simpler if we just do "For more info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[15:46] <dax> "
[15:46] <dax> since [EOL] discusses e.g. ubuntu-support-status which is useful for mainline Ubuntu too
[15:47] <dax> i think the last time this came up we decided that [EOL] links to [Releases] so we didn't need to do it too, but i'm not particularly convinced by that argument
[15:49] <dax> ubottu: eol =~ s%https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL%https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases%
[15:49] <dax> !eol
[15:52] <tomreyn> yes, that's better. originally i had nother part in there:  Systems running after this date will accumulate security vulnerabilities, so upgrade in advance.
[15:53] <tomreyn> but trying to set this (while listing all the aliases like i did above) exceeded the line length and made my irc client wrap the line i meant to to send to ubottu
[15:53] <tomreyn> but your editing approach would work for that, if you wanted to add this statement.
[15:54] <tomreyn> but i'm happy as it is now as well. and i agree we need to keep listing both URLs (at least until we rewrite the community wiki to somehow better clarify this)
[15:55] <tomreyn> TLDR: thanks for your time (and please consider adding the extra sentence, but it's just nice to have).
[15:56] <dax> !eol =~ s/stop,/stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities.%
[15:56] <dax> !eol =~ s/stop,/stop. Make sure to update Ubuntu before it goes EOL so you get updates promptly for newly-discovered security vulnerabilities./
[15:56] <dax> !eol
[15:56] <dax> !eol =~ s/. see/. See/
[15:56] <dax> !eol