[00:00] would love some insight on my issue [00:00] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1176711/ubuntu-18-04-google-chrome-crashes-when-gnome-shell-extensions-are-loaded [00:00] does it happen with chromium-browser, too? [00:00] oooh good question [00:01] downloading it now [00:01] arooni: is it *one* specific extension you need to disable? several? all? try narrowing down if it's one or any etc [00:02] sarnold: i know if i disable all of them it works fine [00:02] so try re-enabling the first half, see what happens.. [00:03] gnome-shell bisecting? [00:03] bingo :) [00:03] i [00:03] yes thats the right way tod o it its just annoying that it crashes gnome-shell each time [00:03] makes me want to install 19.04 [00:03] but likely would have the same iiiiiiiissue [00:03] doesnt seem to happen in chromium-browser [00:04] still get "[23543:23543:0925/190337.481493:ERROR:buffer_manager.cc(488)] [.DisplayCompositor]GL ERROR :GL_INVALID_OPERATION : glBufferData: <- error from previous GL com" [00:04] but it launches at least === BaW_ is now known as BaW === zbenjamin is now known as Guest37762 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:19] ^ what just happened [01:20] hackatheos_: what are you talking about? [01:21] According to my client tons of people just quit all at once === zbenjamin is now known as Guest46749 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:22] hackatheos_: well lets not discuss that here :p [01:22] !netsplit [01:22] A netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit [01:22] thank you for flying #freenode [01:22] hackatheos_: according to mine it's been pretty gradual https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GvNt6Bc2SQ/ [01:23] maybe irccloud is having a sad and bursted a ton of data all at once [01:23] Pribobly [01:26] hello [01:27] welcome NyteRukh [01:28] hows it going this evening [01:29] all good NyteRukh how can we help you? [01:29] is there a ubuntu supported alternative to virtualbox [01:29] yes, gnome boxes [01:30] !info gnome-boxes [01:30] gnome-boxes (source: gnome-boxes): Simple GNOME app to access remote or virtual systems. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.28.1-1 (bionic), package size 975 kB, installed size 6179 kB [01:30] cool [01:30] NyteRukh: its pretty fast and simple in use [01:30] !info gnome-boxes [01:30] nice cant get virtual box to work right lol [01:36] thanks for the help lotuspsychje [01:36] NyteRukh: if you are using 18.04 there might be a known gnome boxes bug you need to workaround [01:36] NyteRukh: let me know if it works by default or not [01:36] ok yes running ubuntu 18/04 with cinnamon desktop [01:37] alrighty [01:41] seems my bios doesnt support or not enabled the virtualizations extensions [01:41] not even sure what to look for in the bios [01:42] NyteRukh: "(Intel) VT-x" or "AMD-V" [01:43] depends on which cpu brand you have [01:43] mmm running on hp pavilion 23 all in one [01:43] NyteRukh: in a terminal type: kvm-ok [01:44] /dev/kvm does not exist [01:44] hint: sudo modprobe kvm-intel [01:45] NyteRukh: the 18.04 bug is you need to add your user to kvm [01:45] ok [01:46] next time i boot ill go looking in the bios [01:49] anyone know how to enable typical networking/internet access from QEMU [01:50] what would it look like at the command line? [01:51] https://www.linuxtechi.com/install-configure-kvm-ubuntu-18-04-server/ [01:52] that might help you [01:54] this is windows host by the way [01:54] ubuntu guest [01:59] mmx_in_space: so, since qemu runs on the (windows) host, and that's where you'd need to configure networking (also in the ubuntu VM, but there it'll be the same as always), this is not really a topic for this channel. maybe try #qemu or ##windows. [02:25] So I am messing around with the most current version of Wine source code to build. I am on U v18. I am trying to build to include as many features as possible. It tells me the OSS version I have is too old , thus no sound for Wine. I download the source code, build, and install. Now I am not getting sound (unless I run the OSS test), Looking in settings, I see I only now have a Dummy Output. [02:25] Suggestions on resolving that? [02:27] i see i have two audio devices. 0:1b.0 Audio device [0403]: Intel Corporation 5 Series/3400 Series Chipset High Definition Audio [8086:3b56] (rev 05) [02:27] and,.,,, 01:00.1 Audio device [0403]: NVIDIA Corporation High Definition Audio Controller [10de:0be3] (rev a1) Subsystem: Dell Latitude E6510 [1028:040b] [02:29] HNIC: wich version of wine is that? [02:30] !info wine bionic [02:30] Package wine does not exist in bionic [02:31] lotuspsychje: 4.16 [02:32] HNIC: think you better might ask in the wine chanel, we try to focus support on ubuntu official repo versions of wine [02:32] !wine | HNIC [02:32] HNIC: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [02:32] Well, I am dealing with a sound issue in Ubuntu , not a Wine issue [02:33] because I am trying the newest version of OSS [02:34] http://www.opensound.com/download.cgi [02:37] as mentioned, settings in Ubuntu is now showing "Dummy Output" [02:43] /quit [02:50] Hi, what command can I use to replace this [02:50] deb [trusted=yes] http://my.server.local/ ./ [02:50] I don't have deb tool [02:56] amosbird: a text editor? [02:58] E: The repository 'http://10.138.0.2:33992 ./ Release' does not have a Release file. [02:58] dpkg-scanpackage doesn't generate a Release file [02:59] how can it be used as a repo? [03:16] amosbird, interesting, are you hosting your own repo? [03:23] what's the best way to isolate a user from my local network but not the internet [03:31] jwash: samba has an invalid user option, so you could set: invalid users = john in the cfg [03:33] ponyrider: great idea [04:37] is it possible to apt update only one repo? [05:11] anyone know why i cant append a directory to my PATH variable? the first directory in my PATH is "/home/myself/.local/bin" im trying to make it be at the end of PATH, not at the beginning. i went into .profile and changed it to the following: PATH="$PATH:$HOME/.local/bin" [05:12] i did PATH=$(getconf PATH) in the terminal to reset PATH, then when i reopen the terminal, i get that damn .local/bin prepended, wheni want it appended === Qinglan1 is now known as Qinglan [05:31] hello room, i am banging my head on a mysql issue. It absolutely refuses to allow remote connections === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus [07:27] When I open links in ubuntu, it causes my browser to crash [07:27] firefox, or chrome [08:06] clera [08:06] clear [08:22] <_oops> hello anyone? [08:23] Hi [08:42] hi [08:56] MATE desktop, Mint themes. Why is it that some icons are oversized while in Linux Mint they look correct with the same theme packages installed? [08:57] tiox: you can try the #ubuntu-mate channel if you like [08:57] Yeah but that's less active, with less users and they're all probably asleep. Guess I could try. [09:20] tiox: or maybe the mint channels. === Qinglan1 is now known as Qinglan [09:28] mint channels are mainly on spotchat right? [09:28] humpled: yes [09:32] Linuxmint official support channels are #linuxmint-help on Spotchat and #linuxmint-chat for non-support conversation, see irc.spotchat.org, ssl is supported on 6697 === SIa_ is now known as SIa === SIa_ is now known as SIa [10:29] Hi I have an Acer Aspire ES 11 Notebook and installed Ubuntu 18.04 minimal installation on it. When I boot with secure boot mode off, I get "no bootable device found". I have to turn secure boot on and select the `grub64.efi` as trusted in order to successfully boot. [10:32] Hello. In "less", how can I jump downward N lines (like j) but without scrolling? [10:32] Norux: you may need to set a BIOS password and use custom EFI file [10:33] that works for me vlt [10:34] vlt: for me too [10:34] humpled: But it scrolls, doesn't it? [10:34] I'd like to *jump*. [10:35] jeremy31: I set a bios password, and what do you mean by use custom EFI file? [10:35] Norux: I just know that some require you to set a custom EFI file or to trust and EFI file in BIOS before it will use it [10:36] humpled, Norux: Got it. It seems to be z (and y for backwards). [10:37] Norux: https://askubuntu.com/a/653202/300665 [10:44] Or rather SPACE and y. Using z changes N permanently. [10:45] Is it just me, or, is Ubuntu 18.04 LTS is really buggy? [10:45] mohnish01: we cant generalize things like that [10:46] mohnish01: do you have a specific issue you want to ask? [10:46] mohnish01: Showstopper for me was missing pdftk. [10:46] It's hard to say, I mean... [10:46] booting up takes up ages after changing the graphics card [10:47] mohnish01: How often do you change it? o_O [10:47] Some softwares don't even wanna run [10:47] I only changed it once [10:47] mohnish01: For example? [10:47] mohnish01: wich chipset & wich driver version? [10:48] Its nvidia GeForce 210 [10:48] Idk the driver version though [10:49] mohnish01: what about your other system specs? [10:49] Core 2 Quad 2.67 GHz, 4 GB RAM, 1 GB vram [10:50] mohnish01: i think you better choose a lightweight flavour of ubuntu, lubuntu/xubuntu [10:50] !flavours | mohnish01 [10:50] mohnish01: Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours [10:50] I am using xubuntu :) [10:51] I knew I had to pick a different flavor with specs like that [10:51] jeremy31: Yeah I know that, but I was wondering if there is an option with secure boot disabled [10:51] mohnish01: you should mention that next time in your original question [10:51] Um, sorry [10:51] mohnish01: so, if xubuntu doesnt run well, you could try lubuntu perhaps? or lubuntu 16.04 [10:52] Yeah, I might [10:52] I'll put it on download soon [10:56] mohnish01: And what software "doesn't even want to run"? [10:56] Openarena [10:56] higan === nanozz is now known as nanoz [10:56] unetbootin [10:56] openarena crashes when I try to join a game [10:57] unetbootin doesn't even start [10:57] mohnish01: i dont think your graphics card can handle openarena [10:57] higan opens for 2 seconds and crashes [10:58] Seriously? I can play openarena perfectly fine in my other distro [10:58] same pc [10:58] mohnish01: wich distro would that be [10:58] debian [10:59] I gtg right now, bye [10:59] mohnish01: can you pastebin: sudo lshw -C video && uname -a && lsb_release -a plz [10:59] I'm sorry, I have to go now [10:59] Later maybe [11:00] :v [11:04] i just froze my system by clicking suspend (in kubuntu 18.04) and trying to abort it by hammering the ctrl key [11:04] I don't believe that's behaviour I should reasonably expect :) === SIa_ is now known as SIa === Qinglan1 is now known as Qinglan [11:32] Hi, if the asmedia B550 will be there, what about the support by the linux kernel. I would assume that there are some work to be run out of the box, isn't it? === SIa_ is now known as SIa [11:37] ls [11:38] less acc4less \$ls -l |grep app [11:38] exit [11:50] hello [11:51] no is here [11:56] Hi folks === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 [12:10] TJ- you here? [12:13] tomreyn? [12:13] ericus, just ask your question [12:14] In this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Full_Disk_Encryption_Howto_2019 [12:15] If I already have a Windows installation is it still gonna be /dev/sda or /dev/sda5 (the left over space)? [12:15] Under the pre-prepare encrypted partitions section [12:16] So export DEV sda or sda5? [12:19] ericus: that guide assumes an empty drive [12:19] Thats what I feared. But it also mentions dual boot [12:19] ericus: I dont know if it is possible to use luks to encrypt just a single parttition [12:20] ericus, i dont see any mention of dual booting in that guide [12:21] It mentions installing alongside Windows [12:23] ericus: According to the first hits on Google it should be possible. [12:24] ericus: DEV is still the full disk, but read the paragraph following that, too, as well as the further notes later on regarding how to handle existing paritions. [12:24] ericus: Atleast it is not /dev/sda, this is the entire drive. ;) [12:25] yes, it's possible to use block layer device encryption such as dmcrypt-luks to encrypt just a partition (or a LVM2 logical volume) [12:26] Since this drive already is partitioned you can skip creating the gpt table. [12:26] You can go straight to the gparted section and create the new partitions [12:28] hi guys, can i ask ubuntu desktop related question here? [12:28] i need a add a custom printer setting for one of my 3 printers [12:28] The sgdisk part Meufib? [12:29] baako: sure, this is the ubuntu support channel, so if you have questions about your ubuntu installation it's a good place. [12:30] ericus: I would recommend using the graphical gparted tool [12:30] I have a ubuntu 18.04 desktop. I just got one of those printers which is used to printer those small shipping labels [12:30] i need to ask the setting for it [12:31] baako: have you tried entered the model number of your printer and the word 'ubuntu' into a search engine? [12:31] s/entered/entering [12:32] What about my existing EFI partition? [12:33] keep it [12:33] ericus: using gparted you can shrink the existing partition and create the two new ones. You can then skip ahead to the "LUKS encrypt" part [12:34] The bios_boot, do I need that? [12:34] So just a /boot and /? [12:34] ericus: Dont remove any of the existing partitions, just make some free space for the new partitions. [12:34] I got free space but not sure how to partition it [12:35] ericus: The existing partitions contain part of the uefi/bios and in most cases recovery images for your laptop. [12:35] ericus: let me rephrase, you need unpartitioned space. [12:35] I have 200GB unpartitioned [12:36] Greetings everyone [12:36] ericus: this posts your current partition layout to https://termbin.com, a website similar to https://paste.ubuntu.com, and returns a URL for easy copy and paste here: sudo sgdisk --print /dev/sda 2>&1 | nc termbin.com 9999 [12:36] So which new partitions should I create? [12:36] ericus: you should be able to "right click" the free space in the bar graph and get the option to create a new partition [12:36] ericus: Id recommend sticking with the manual, soa a '/' and '/boot/' [12:37] I'll go for boot and root then [12:37] I'm trying to set up keys to for login into specific users on the system. I created the files but whenever I attempt to login, I'm getting "No supported authentication methods available (server sent: publickey)"RSA auth is set to yes in sshd config, so is pukey and auth key file location is set to a custom directory in /etc/ssh/keys/user [12:38] you've added the public keys to ~/.ssh/authroized_keys? [12:39] err, ~/.ssh/authorized_keys [12:39] Does the directory matter? [12:39] I assume as long the files are there, it should work. [12:40] The /etc/ssh/keys/user directory contains 2 files. One without extension (private) and one with .pub (public). [12:41] I think sshd wants /etc/ssh/keys/$user/authorized_keys [12:41] Skyrider: you must have misunderstood part of the manual / how-to you've been following. the users' private keys, used to authenticate to the ssh server, are only created and stored on the connecting clients. [12:41] (I'm not entirely sure; I've never changed the default ssh key directory paths) [12:43] Skyrider: only the users' public SSH keys are then copied to the SSH server and installed there in the location the SSH server will look for them when a matching user is attempting to authenticate. [12:44] Skyrider: i.e. the private key you have stored in /etc/ssh/keys/$USER/ should definitely not be there. [12:47] also, i would recommend you go with the defaults initially, where you place, on the SSH server, users' SSH public keys (which they will later authenticate against) in their home directories, in the /home/$USER/.ssh/authorized_keys file (or in the users' respective ~/.ssh/authorized_keys - if you have decided not to store home directories in the default location, /home) [12:47] Thing is.. User has no home. [12:48] It's a customized user that has a specific www directory set, no home required. [12:48] then this specific www directory is their home [12:48] So I can't use a custom key directory? [12:49] who owns the specific www directory? [12:50] The name of the user? Also, I followed: https://www.ssh.com/ssh/key/#sec-How-to-configure-key-based-authentication [12:50] yes you can use a custom authentication public key file location [12:50] "MOVING SSH KEYS TO A ROOT-OWNED LOCATION" in particular. [12:54] The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install to / target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot. [12:54] Sigh.. [12:54] I copied over the public key to /etc/ssh/keys/esf-web/authorized_keys - using the following in sshd config: AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/ssh/keys/%u/authorized_keys [12:55] Skyrider: yes, this should work. it's not what i'd do the first time i set up (a concept already somewhat difficult to grasp for anyone not into it already) public key authentication in openssh. and i'd personally prefer to use documentation provided by the operating system (man sshd) or the software i'm using (openssh.org), [12:55] I still get the same error though. [12:56] so time to revisit what i told you first [12:56] ericus: start the bootloader with "ubiquity -b" then chroot and manually install grub later [12:58] Using home directory instead? :p [12:59] Skyrider: you must have misunderstood part of the manual / how-to you've been following. the users' private keys, used to authenticate to the ssh server, are only created and stored on the connecting clients. [12:59] It was my fault, I missed a thing [13:01] Skyrider: you said "The /etc/ssh/keys/user directory contains 2 files. One without extension (private) and one with .pub (public)." - if this refers to the openssh *servers* directories then this is not how it should be. there should only be a public key, no provide key, in this directory. [13:01] s/provide key/private key/ [13:02] sorry, still waking up. [13:03] Skyrider: if it's still unclear what's wrong there then maybe you can link to the guide you followed to create the "2 files" in the "/etc/ssh/keys/user directory". [13:04] I created a tmp home directory just to create the pub/private key files [13:04] After that, moved them to another location.. not sure why it won't work.. it's just a file, and set the location in the sshd config file. [13:05] on which system did you create "a tmp home directory just to create the pub/private key files"? on the server you want the ssh clients to authenticate against? then that was wrong. [13:07] The main system where it should login as well. Why would it be wrong exactly? Is there anything that indicates it's directory specific? [13:09] the authenticating users' secrets should always be created on a system exclusively controlled by the authenticating client (or, in the absence of such, the same system they will use to connect from). [13:09] hey guys [13:10] hi [13:10] Skyrider: the server does not need to, and never should, get to see the users' private ssh key. [13:11] is there a known issue on ubuntu with xauth/xserver/xhost? I can't run for example gedit from the terminal; i get an error "Gtk-WARNING cannot open display" [13:11] export DISPLAY=:0 doesn't help [13:11] I get that ^^, so why wouldn't a custom directory set in sshd config work where the public key is located? [13:11] The key is generated on the same system. [13:12] Skyrider: a custom directory set in sshd config work where the public key is located? [13:12] thats fine [13:12] this is via ssh [13:12] "xhost +" also does not help [13:12] Skyrider: but storing the connecting clients' ssh private key on the server only is not going to work. and it should not be stored on the serve rin the first place. [13:13] AuthorizedKeysFile /etc/ssh/keys/%u/authorized_keys - public file is located over there, yet I receive the same No supported authentication methods available (server sent: publickey) error though. [13:13] Skyrider: because the ssh client will need to have access to its private key to be able to authenticate to the server [13:13] In this case, filezilla. Which converted the private key to *.ppk [13:14] Let me attempt to use the same private key on ssh, 1 sec. [13:14] Awesome! [13:15] oh, so it works if i run "xhost +" and then reboot [13:15] this is in a VM on my local machine === jil is now known as Guest75584 [13:15] strangely, it doesn't work on AWS EC2... [13:16] Ya, even on Putty same error. [13:16] Apparently ppk file has a file format error. [13:17] Skyrider: yes? [13:17] ? [13:19] what is the ppk file error, or where you replying to someone else [13:19] zmagii: Skyrider was not replying to you there [13:20] !who | Skyrider [13:20] Skyrider: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :) [13:20] Haha, sure :D [13:20] right sorry [13:20] Skyrider: so this private key file filezilla (on the ssh client, i assume) and now putty (also on the ssh client, i assume) has available: how did it get there in the first place? [13:21] The SSH public key works now on putty. Was able to login :) [13:21] You have an issue in mesa clover. The problem was resolved by rebuilding clover and linking it to llvm 10. https://bugs.llvm.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43444#c3 [13:21] llvm.org bug 43444 in OpenCL "When double hyperbolic and trigonometric functions are combined in a single kernel the compiler hangs" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] [13:22] Just for some reason filezilla cannot read the ppk file by default and has to be converted.. which breaks the key file that it cannot be read by putty. [13:22] !bugs | KOLANICH [13:22] KOLANICH: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [13:23] KOLANICH: This channel is run by volunteers. It is best to report bugs to the launchpad, please see the link that ubottu just posted for help on posting bugs [13:23] Skyrider: have you read https://wiki.filezilla-project.org/Howto ? [13:27] Skyrider: next time you setup something like this, i very much recommend you first set it up between two linux systems, using default configurations. and only when you have this working, extrapolate to the windows client and to non-default server configurations. this (a) ensures you memorize important methodologies affecting secure operation properly (i am not convinced you achieved this in this case, yet) and (b) makes for a much simpler test [13:27] case you can build on. [13:34] tomreyn: Currently reading through the converting part. As for 2 systems, I only have 1. [13:35] Skyrider: you seem to have at least a windows system you're using as the ssh guest, and an ubuntu system running opensshd. [13:35] Mh, don't think Kitty can convert. [13:36] you could run an additional virtual (or containerized) ubuntu guest on the windows system. [13:37] cats are not generally good at converting, most of the time they remain cats for their entire lifespan. [13:41] *shrugs*, I've converted it using puttygen. Even then same error. [13:41] Is it because I used "ed25519"? [13:42] * tomreyn shrugs [13:42] not an ubuntu support issue [13:44] What isn't exactly? :p [13:45] I'm now getting dropped to a grub bash shell upon boot.. [13:46] This is starting to become annoying [13:46] sigh [13:46] ericus: Minimal bash like message or something? [13:47] GNU GRUB version 2.02 [13:47] Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported bla bla [13:48] ericus: OK. What happens when you press ESC? Does it give a menu with an option to boot to Ubuntu? [13:49] Nothing happens, it prints a new line [13:50] ericus: Got this. What did you do to the boot manager last time you have successfully booted to Ubuntu? [13:50] The 'grub-efi-amd64-signed' package failed to install to / target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot. [13:50] humpled I fixed that [13:51] Missed this the first try [13:51] echo "GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y" >> /target/etc/default/grub [13:51] So yeah, not that.. [13:57] ericus: Can you pastebin the output of /etc/default/grub of your affected installation? [14:02] does ubuntu 19.04 support mst? [14:02] multi stream transport? [14:03] can you point us to the RFC for that? [14:05] it's for displays [14:05] not for networks [14:06] yeah mst is for displayport [14:06] so i found the culprit for my graphics issue yesterday: i have 2 monitors daisy chained and ubuntu 19.04 doesn't like that [14:07] currently stuck at boot with ubuntu logo and 5 dots animating on the main monitor [14:08] atm not even ctrl+alt+del helps, i will have to pull the plug on it [14:08] CrazySam: Can you boot it again without quiet and splash? === MassDebates_ is now known as MassDebates [14:10] i could try that, yes [14:10] let me just add that i tested a few minutes ago to unplug the slave monitor and just leave 1 monitor plugged in [14:11] that way i was able to boot normally without freezing, and also, i noticed the behavior of the splash screen and initial mouse pointer position was different [14:11] initial support for displayport multii-stream support has been in Linux 3.16. i am not sure what the current state is. [14:12] that's for i915 [14:14] amdgpu should have seen initial support in 4.1 [14:14] i would get a low-res "ubuntu 19.04" in the middle of the monitor, then it would jump up to the upper left corner with animating 4 dots (not 5), and then a black screen with purple 1 inch thick horizontal line would appear at the bottom, and the mouse cursor appears in the lower right corner [14:14] right after that the login screen appears and i can sign in normally [14:14] so that's 1 monitor only connected [14:15] if i reboot and quickly plug in monitor 2 which chained to the first one, and i do that before the boot process begins, i can effectively make it freeze [14:16] this way i get very crisp high-res ubuntu logo in the middle of the main monitor with 5 animating dots (not 4 and not in the upper left corner). and that's all i get.... [14:17] anyone seen anything like this? where daisy chaining monitors to a ubuntu host breaks the boot process and screws with the splash screen and cursor position? [14:18] CrazySam: please make sure you point uot any non-common configurations (both software and hardware) when asking for support here in the future. this can save you and (especially) those volunteers trying to support you here a lot of time. [14:18] I'm guessing you're using a disk drive, as SSDs boot so fast I am lucky to even see a logo during startup. It flashes for a second, then I'm at the login screen. [14:18] s/uot/out/ [14:19] ok, well if hdd counts as non-common then yes, i have one here [14:19] wd black caviar 1 tb [14:19] that's the only disk in the system [14:19] When did Ubuntu Gnome get tray icons back? [14:20] ubuntu 19.04 installed cleanly from usb, disk is wiped, so no windows left [14:21] k00l3th4n, I've never noticed that there wasn't tray icons. [14:21] k00l3th4n: back when ubuntu decided to switch from unity to gnome as the default session, IIRC? [14:22] does anyone here use daisy chained monitors with ubuntu? just wondering as to why this is a problem for my system [14:22] uRock, Yeah, Gnome did away with tray icons in 3.26 and users were forced to use extension (Topicons Plus) to get them back. [14:22] CrazySam: So what i tried to point out above is that DP MST support is subject to driver support (and possibly hardware, too). So it would certainly help to state which graphics hardware and drivers you are using to determine whether it can be supported on your system. [14:23] ok, well i looked at that yesterday, and i recall seeing "radeon" as driver. the command i used didn't say much more than that. [14:23] gpu is radeon indeed [14:24] mgedmin, I don't understand what you mean... [14:24] hd 6850 [14:24] the "radeon" driver is open sourced right? [14:25] It is. [14:25] i have a done a complete reinstall of the system and made sure not to install any prop software [14:25] the chip is called "barts" i think in the ubuntu about system page [14:26] cpu is q9650 [14:26] 8 gb of ram, corsair [14:26] 800 mhz i think [14:26] CrazySam: What message did it stuck on when you reboot with no quiet and no splash after plugging in the monitor? [14:28] right! it's been sitting here waiting, so i will go shut it down and reboot and see what happens [14:29] CrazySam: So you're saying that AMD/ATI Radeon HD 6850 (BARTS generation) is the graphics hardware which manages the DP connector your screens are connected to, and that the kernel module managing it is "radeon". Can you confirm this? [14:31] where can I see support status of like 14.04? [14:31] I need a url I can site [14:31] !14.04 | CarlFK [14:31] CarlFK: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS (Trusty Tahr) was the 20th release of Ubuntu. !End-of-life was April 25th, 2019. Paid support (ESM) is available. See also !esm, !eol, !eolupgrade [14:31] !End-of-life [14:31] End-Of-Life is when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOL for more info. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades [14:31] CarlFK: and for the URL, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [14:32] im looking for an organizer, like korganizer, but with times listed as 24 hour cycles, not AM and PM [14:32] tomreyn, that's what i have gathered so far, yes, and right this moment i have shut it down and without the second monitor connected and rebooted but it still hangs at boot because it's left in a bad state from last time [14:32] dax: bingo [14:33] tomreyn, i.e. it still thinks the second monitor is connected [14:33] tab tab tab for grub menu right? i can't seem to get to it [14:33] frad, Google Calendar can be configured that way. [14:34] uRock, any other options? [14:35] i can see messages about "a start job is running for "Hold" until boot process finishes up" [14:35] 2 lines [14:35] IDK, I don't use any desktop apps. My life is too simple for needing anything like that. [14:36] CrazySam: if you're (legacy) bios / CRM booting, hold down shift after POST. if you're UEFI booting hit escape repeatedly after POST. [14:36] CrazySam: this was about how to access the grub menu [14:36] ok [14:36] !recovery | CrazySam [14:36] CrazySam: If your system fails to boot normally, it may be useful to boot it into recovery mode. For instructions, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode [14:37] CrazySam: Do you have additional graphics chipsets installed? Can you confirm that you're running Ubuntu 19.04 with the standard/unchanged login manager (gdm3) and graphical desktop (gnome-shell)? [14:38] ctrl+alt+del worked this time without having to cut power, rebooted, tried shift, didn't work, i am left with a flashing underscore and a black screen [14:39] Hello there, I am new to linux, used it many years ago and now trying to come back to it.. I installed Ubuntustudio on a Toshiba Satellite laptop. The laptop keyboard and trackpad do not work, I am using a USB mouse that does work, but a USB keyboard only works sometimes, sometimes it recognizes it sometimes no.I have uninstalled xserver-xorg-input-all, I have turned off autosuspend it is -1 now.. when it is booting I can see: " i8042: can’t reactiv [14:39] ate aux port" the USB KYBRD I coudl see showed up in the app 'Mouse and Trackpad' sometimes, it would disconnect by itself can somebody please help me? [14:39] tomreyn, no gpu other than radeon hd6850 [14:40] ok i got to grub menu [14:41] quite splash removed [14:41] CrazySam are you talking to me?? [14:41]