=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [06:09] I observer many bugs in Xubuntu 19.04 but this is the strangest bug thus far.. [06:09] I can not move icon to lower left part of the screen.. [06:09] But on the lower right part of the screen it is ok..? [06:11] also the positions where I can not move icons are not limited by square area.. but more ireggular at the center... [06:11] Really weird.. [06:12] Also I have another monitor plugged in, but it is small CRT so I keep it as disabled/not user in Display properties.. [06:14] when I turn on the second screen, problem with icon placing is also visible there but ir also smaller area of the screen because it is smaller resolution monitor [06:15] It behaves like when moving an icon with the left mouse, suddenly icon gets dropped on last position in the grid and cursor keeps moving, like it is doing selection [06:16] e.g. problem with moving is problem with deselecting moving object and clicking on it's place on the blank screen. [06:16] and in some parts of the screen [06:17] Anyone can reproduce this (I am on Radeon 7850 and it's graphics drivers form ubuntu if that matters. [08:22] Hi [08:23] After the latest update, dock is missing and also menus and dialogs look different [08:23] Could you please me in getting the dock back and switching to the previous layout [14:55] Hello there, I am new to linux, used it many years ago and now trying to come back to it.. I installed Ubuntustudio on a Toshiba Satellite laptop. The laptop keyboard and trackpad do not work, I am using a USB mouse that does work, but a USB keyboard only works sometimes, sometimes it recognizes it sometimes no.things I have tried: uninstalled and reinstalled xserver-xorg-input-all, I have turned off autosuspend it is -1 now..  when it is booting I [14:55] can see: " i8042: can’t reactivate aux port" the USB KYBRD I could see showed up in the app 'Mouse and Trackpad' sometimes, it would disconnect by itself can somebody please help me? would really appreciate it… [15:09] IT recognizes the usb mouse right away, when I plug and unplug it but not the USB keyboard, I was advised to ask here form the #ubuntustudio channel since we share same desktop.. [15:16] weird [15:17] Gusj: could you try something like: sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-all --reinstall [15:18] according to this thread it might solve your problem https://askubuntu.com/questions/688445/laptop-keyboard-stopped-working [15:18] yes very weired, works for a little bit, then does not.. in the app 'Mouse and Trackpad" in the GUI I can see it when it recognizes it and then when it is gone [15:18] Let me try your suggestion Gridcube now.. [15:20] ok did your sudo apt install xserver-xorg-input-all --reinstall, updating now and rebooting [15:26] Tried it and the same result... the usb mouse works great, I unplug and plug it back in and I can see it in 'Mouse and Trackpad" but not the usb keyboard, the laptop keyboard has never worked, but the trackpad and laptop keyboard do work in the bios a [15:27] mmm, maybe you need to purge the old version of the application as the thread suggests https://askubuntu.com/questions/688445/laptop-keyboard-stopped-working [15:29] Yes I have already tried that before.. the uninstall and install.. I had seen that link before and tried it without resul :( [15:30] let me try it one more time to see.. [15:31] is it possible that your touchpad/keyboard are blocking each other in the accesibility options? like for example i know that touchpads can block if you press letters so you don't accidentally move the cursor while typing [15:33] is it possible that your keyboard has a FN key that blocks itself? [15:33] The laptop keyboard has an FN but the USB does not.. how can I check if they are blocking each other? [15:34] the laptop keyboard is like frozen, for example with the light on num lock permanently on... only happens inside os, not in bios.. [15:34] rebooted same result [15:34] does it happen in ttys? [15:34] like can you type properly on a tty? [15:34] in the terminal you mean? sry new here.. [15:35] tty1 to 6 are accesible if you press ctrl-alt-F1 to F6 [15:35] ctrl-alt-F7 will take you to the current xorg session [15:36] so if the usb keyboard works try pressing ctrl-alt-F1 and see if you can type properly in TTY1 [15:36] it is not working at the moment can i do that with the onscreen keyboard? [15:37] maybe? [15:37] i never tried [15:37] i don't know how you could go back to TTY7 if the keyboard doesnt work tho, because you have to type ctrl-alt-F7... wait you can just reboot [15:38] can't do it with the on board keyboard.. [15:38] How cna I try that while rebooting? [15:39] just press ctrl-alt-F1 [15:39] while it is booting during the logo? [15:39] or choose recovery mode on grub [15:39] that would just take you to TTY1 and not load x [15:39] ahhh ok will try recovery mode on grub one sec.. [15:39] got it will do it now thank you [15:49] now when I hit escape for the grub menu and select advanced options for ubuntu, nothing happens screen black with Grub Boot Menu on top and the commands at the bottom [15:56] Ok i made it into the recovery menu (filesystem state: read-only), which option should I choose? [15:56] there is, resume, clean, dpkg, fsck, grub, network, root, system-summary [15:57] @Grid [15:58] can't choose anything the cursor does not move at this point.. [16:20] stuck, what I have noticed is that while booting loading up it says: 'i8042: can’t reactivate aux port" I think this has to do with that [16:21] with the keyboard not working [16:25] how could I try to load it manually on the command line? I think that might be something to try but do not know how.. [16:32] Gusj: does the keyboard work on recovery mode? [16:32] if it does then your problem starts with xorg, if it doesn't then you have a different level problem [16:33] Gusj: https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=793348&sid=eabb3744d31bd214b2953400247a567d#p793348 [16:35] no, it did not work in recovery mode, i think it is related to "i8042: can’t reactivate aux port" that i see while loading? [16:35] let me check out your link, how can I include your nick here like you include mine? here in the channel chat I mean.. [16:36] Gusj: just type gr and press tab [17:28] GridCube: when you say a different level of problem, do you mean hardware? if keyboard does not work in recovery mode? [17:34] Gusj: maybe, but you said BIOS does recognize the kb so that would discard the hardware level [17:35] so it's probably between the bios/efi level and the xorg level, which i think is level 6? don't quote me on that [17:35] GridCube: yes of course, it is crazy, the laptop keyboard and the touchpad BOTH WORK in the bios... [17:36] that last link i pasted shows how to configure grub to recognize the i8042 thingies [17:36] I tried booting on CSM and same thing happened, now tried another light distribution and in the install, LUBUNTU the same thing, laptop keyboard frozen [17:36] so i would think that grub is not loading the proper controllers for the devices? [17:39] GridCube: yes I understand.. will try that on the test distribution to see if it works, already wiped the harddrive to try and install lubuntu [17:39] if lubuntu is having the same problem try the same solution [17:40] at the level it is it wouldn't matter which desktop flavour you choose [17:40] underneath all distros share the same infrastructure [17:41] i meant ubuntu-flavors share the same infrastructure, not all distros [17:41] Ahh got it... yes, going to have to include in a txt file the commands needed to connect to wifi, and download the onscreen keyboard, lubuntu does not have it by default i have read === GridCube_ is now known as GridCube [23:03] Hi there. My xserver starts, but when I try to login, it crashes and I'm redirected back to the login screen. I tried turning off the lightdm service and running "startx" from the command line, but the same thing happens. Any idea where to look at ? The Xorg.0.log file does not show any error, it just says that the X server closed gracefully... but I don't know why it closed in the first place. Any idea ? [23:05] uski: At the login screen can you activate a virtual terminal - key combo ctl+alt+F2 ? [23:12] Bashing-om, yes, that's where i tried starttx after shutting down lightdm [23:13] It was an older 18.10 install (up to date), which I upgraded to the latest version after the problem appeared, but it did not help (do-release-upgrade) [23:14] I didn't do anything special so I was expecting to see a huge amount of people affected, but it turns out it does not seem to be such a common problem after a bit of research and I don't know where to look [23:22] uski: Likely broken graphics driver - from the console what shows ' sudo lshw -C display ' ? [23:25] Bashing-om, it shows 2 adapters, both intel integrated graphics. It shows the second one (index 1) is unclaimed. [23:25] There is 0: VGA compatible controller, and 1: Unclaimed : Display controller [23:25] kernel is 5.0.0-29-generic from the xubuntu repos (not custom built) [23:27] uski: Unclaimed - then no driver is loaded - pastebin the ^ output and we see waht we are working with :) [23:27] what* [23:27] Hmmm there is a dmesg line about an ACPI issue related to the display driver. Let me try what is suggested on the dmesg line, BRB [23:28] [Firmware Bug]: Duplicate ACPI video bus devices for the same VGA controller, please try module parameter "video.allow_duplicates=1"if the current driver doesn't work. [23:29] This was the line. I added that to a file in modprobe.d directory but it did not solve the issue. Considering I can see the graphics login screen, I don't 100% think it's a graphic driver issue [23:30] HA! I added a new user and I can login... so something is wrong with my main user. Any idea as to what could cause a crash when logging into a specific user ? [23:34] uski: Reset the desktop todefaults ? [23:34] Yeah... I'd like to try to find the root cause to file a bug report if at all possible, if that happens to someone not so well versed he won't be able to recover. But yeah [23:35] There is a weird line in my xsession-errors : "xfce4-session: Another session manager is already running" [23:36] uski: I am all for finding the fault - will have to await one with greater skills than I :( [23:36] Thanks for the pointer, it made me progress [23:36] :) [23:38] uski: :D ... At lease we have a sledge hammer means to resolve. [23:39] I'll be AFK for some time but if someone has an idea, please say so. Basically something somewhere is making xfce not start, possibly because it thinks another instance is running