[00:32] <nt0> hello.  i've got an xps 9560 laptop which uses nvidia optimus graphics switching.  the status of linux optimus is a common topic on the web and it is difficult to sort things out.  stopped in to ask if any of you have experience or insight.  i'd like to ditch windows completely but want to be sure that i can use the gpu for cuda/&c while relying on intel igpu for most purposes.
[00:33] <nt0> curious as to how well the switching works in the upcoming 19.10 release
[01:11] <tomreyn> !ubuntu+1
[01:11] <tomreyn> heh that's an outdated message, but future release discussion would be in #ubuntu+1
[01:25] <hackatheos_> Heyo ive been on tge wrong channel
[01:26] <hackatheos_> I was off topicing the support channel
[01:27]  * hackatheos_ beholds the silencw of #ubuntu-discuss 
[01:32] <Bashing-om> hackatheos_: Coordination channel - nothing now to co-ordinate :)
[01:38] <hackatheos_> How sad
[01:45] <Bashing-om> hackatheos_: Truly sad :( - ubuntu has become so user friendly - support is rarely needed anymore :).. General yakking is in #ubuntu-offtopic.
[01:45] <hackatheos_> Oh
[01:45] <hackatheos_> Dang im in the wring channel again
[01:46] <hackatheos_> Hay thanks
[01:46] <Bashing-om> hackatheos_: Good ubuntu'n to you :D
[01:47] <hackatheos_> You too
[01:47] <hackatheos_> ;D
[01:47]  * hackatheos_ tips hat
[03:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[03:21] <akem__> Hey lotus.
[03:21] <akem__> Early morning as usual :P
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> hey akem
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> saaam: lsb_release -a
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> saaam: also if this was in interrupted lts upgrade, you might look at your sources.list
[05:34] <saaam> Hrm. I don't have a system to login at the moment. Would `lsb_release -a` show upgrade history?
[05:34] <lotuspsychje> saaam: no, thats for telling your current ubuntu release
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> saaam: but in some cases, we see interrupted upgrades have mixxed sources and leftovers
[05:35] <saaam> Right. I already know the current. E.g. 14.04. I need to find out whether the end-client upgraded from 12.04, or did a fresh 14.04 install.
[05:35] <lotuspsychje> saaam: doing apt full upgrade can also sort stuff, apt is smart
[05:36] <saaam> Sadly, this isn't about the upgrade.
[05:36] <saaam> This is about figuring out whether the end client was... inattentive, left U12.04 systems around for a while, and then upgraded to U14.04 and is trying to pass them off as that, and hide the unpatched/exposed time.
[05:36] <saaam> Kind of an odd thing, I know.
[05:36] <saaam> It's for DD.
[05:37] <Bashing-om> saaam: Have a look in /var/log/installer .
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> saaam: whatever you try, 14.04 would be end of life, so apt will also give you errors as its not supported anymore
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> so no way your gonna be able to fix things, unless you go for ESM first
[05:38] <saaam> Ahh. Thanks, Bashing-om. Good one.
[05:39] <saaam> lotuspsychje: Yeah, I know. But client doesn't want to pay for ESM for a 14.04 system that may be a quick upgrade on top of a long-exposed 12.04 system. They'd rather force a manual greenfield rebuild of those systems into supported versions.
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> right
[05:41] <saaam> "Kill it with fire." isn't a valid strategy here, unfortunately.
[05:41] <saaam> I recommended that.
[06:33] <lordievader> Good morning
[06:35] <immu> good morning
[06:35] <immu> can we take about 19.10 here?
[06:37] <ducasse> good morning
[06:38] <lordievader> immu: It used to be that discussions about unreleased versions were in #ubuntu+1
[06:38] <immu> ducasse, lordievader hi
[06:38] <ducasse> \o
[06:38] <lordievader> 👋
[06:40] <immu> i am live testing ubuntu 19.10 looks good
[06:40] <immu> has any one taken up ubuntu USD25 support package?
[06:42] <immu> https://buy.ubuntu.com/collections/ubuntu-advantage-for-infrastructure-essential
[10:24] <marcoagpinto> Heya
[10:25] <EoflaOE> marcoagpinto!!!
[10:25] <marcoagpinto> EoflaOE!!!!!
[10:25] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[10:26] <marcoagpinto> I was up at 3am coding, then rested a bit at 8am for two hours
[10:27] <EoflaOE> OK. I have made a new version of KS yesterday
[10:27] <marcoagpinto> cool
[10:27] <marcoagpinto> :p
[10:29] <EoflaOE> Thanks. I am going to make a test app to test Newtonsoft.JSON's performance by reading large JSON files that are made by Mockaroo
[11:52] <tomreyn> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2019-September/004828.html
[12:03] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[12:03] <marcoagpinto> BluesKaj!!! Hello!!!!
[12:03] <marcoagpinto> >:)
[12:05] <marcoagpinto> "The beta images are known to be reasonably free of showstopper CD build or installer bugs, while representing a very recent snapshot of 19.10 that should be representative of the features intended to ship with the final release expected on October 17th, 2019."
[12:05] <marcoagpinto> 17th
[12:05] <marcoagpinto> :)
[12:09] <BluesKaj> hi marcoagpinto
[13:17] <EoflaOE> marcoagpinto: Studied, and I am back.
[13:18] <marcoagpinto> wb, EoflaOE!
[13:18] <EoflaOE> Thanks marcoagpinto. Do you know Mockaroo? https://mockaroo.com/
[13:19] <akemhp> I'm drinking some sodastream cola ;) tchin tchin marcoagpinto.
[13:19] <marcoagpinto> no, never heard of it
[13:19] <marcoagpinto> :)
[13:19] <EoflaOE> Hello akemhp
[13:19] <marcoagpinto> hello akemhp
[13:19] <akemhp> Hi EoflaOE, marcoagpinto.
[13:19] <marcoagpinto> I am about to start a backup of my projects
[13:19] <marcoagpinto> :)
[13:20] <EoflaOE> marcoagpinto: It can make *real* test JSONs that you can use in test applications. You add blocks, and it will generate it.
[13:20] <marcoagpinto> basically ZIPX files with AES-256
[13:20] <EoflaOE> How are you akemhp?
[13:21] <akemhp> EoflaOE, Doing good! chilling on the web/working on some projects. You?
[13:21] <EoflaOE> akemhp: Doing fine. After lunch, I am making a test app for large JSON files
[13:22] <akemhp> I don't know about JSON files, what programming language you using?
[13:23] <EoflaOE> akemhp: VB.NET can have NuGet references, and one of them has Newtonsoft.Json that interacts with JSONs.
[13:24] <akemhp> Okay.