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tomreynand another 8 seconds for network manager / dhcp. you could mostly save those by using a static network configuration00:00
Gallomimiaholy..... CRAP00:00
tomreyn?00:00
Gallomimiawell. the network situation is untennable and unfixable for now00:00
Gallomimiathe blame is pages00:00
Gallomimiahow can i make it output a sane view for pasting?00:01
tomreynjust the top 10 or 20 lines is fine00:01
tomreynsystemd-analyze blame | nc termbin.com 9999900:02
tomreynsystemd-analyze blame | nc termbin.com 9999   << one less00:02
* uRock sees the flood coming, lol00:02
OerHekssystemd-analyze plot > filename.svg00:02
Gallomimiahttps://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/MSZkmN8HrD/00:02
Gallomimianow there's blame and a plot?00:03
cocoftomreyn: nope/00:03
Gallomimiahere's the netcat version: https://termbin.com/objv00:03
OerHeksplot makes an image00:03
tomreynhmm 10 seconds waiting for plymouth to quit. maybe there's graphics initialization issues or something.00:05
Gallomimiamaybe... my mobo is very unfriendly, with a buggy amd-iommu00:05
Gallomimiai also see this: Sep 26 17:31:20 draco-lambda gnome-session-binary[1751]: Unrecoverable failure in required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop00:05
Gallomimiain my boot journal00:05
Gallomimiagoogling that leads to a 1y+ old bug00:05
tomreynuninstalling or replacing some snaps might help with a faster boot, too.00:07
cocofyep00:07
Gallomimiasnaps are poo00:07
cocofnot poo00:07
Gallomimiadont do snaps. mmmkay?00:07
cocofyou can install latest stuff via snaps00:07
cocof:)00:07
cocofand avoid security holes00:07
tomreyn!discuss00:07
ubottuWant to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!00:07
tomreynthanks ;)00:08
Gallomimiaanyway, a faster boot would be nice but, i'm more concerned with the boot hang00:10
tomreynso it really gets stuck there, it doesn't just 'take long'?00:10
Gallomimiain fact, if i don't flip tty's within a minute, it won't let me do it later00:11
tomreynis the bios all updated?00:11
Gallomimiakeyboard freezes,00:11
Gallomimiayes00:11
Gallomimiain fact, i almost wish i hadn't updated it. probably worked better before00:12
tomreynACPI warnings or errors?00:12
Gallomimiaprobably00:12
tomreynyou can probably downgrade the bios if needed.00:12
Gallomimiafor reference, it's a gigabyte 990 fxa, um300:13
Gallomimia(dont buy this)00:13
tomreynyou'll need to review (and optionally share with us) the full systemd journal00:13
tomreyn...for the latest boot (-b)00:13
Gallomimiai have been reviewing the boot journal yes00:14
cocofsolved.00:14
Gallomimiai found that gnome desktop critical error, and the mdadm library missing00:14
tomreynyou mean gnome-*shell*, right?00:15
Gallomimiawould you care to help me cheat and craft a command to share this journal?00:15
tomreynjournalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999900:15
Gallomimiai.... don't know what i mean anymore :/00:15
Gallomimiahttps://termbin.com/xz9600:16
Gallomimiai recommend asprin with this00:16
tomreynGallomimia: so your board is HW Rev 3.0?00:20
Gallomimiathat sounds familiar yes00:20
Gallomimiai've fought with that puppy a lot00:21
tomreynthere are 6 different HW rev's, using different BIOSes, so you'd better be sure there.00:21
tomreynit usually says on the mainboard00:22
Gallomimiacool story. one of the drives in my raid failed, and it offered to reset all BIOS settings to default, with no option to say no. i neglected to write down all the proper settings so it left me unable to boot for quite a long time.00:22
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tomreynGallomimia: does        df -h | grep ^/dev | grep -v ^/dev/loop       report that you have spare space everywhere?00:27
Gallomimiait does00:28
Gallomimiachecked that already. it was suggested in a google search for the original error message00:28
tomreynsdc1 is an ext3 file system, you may want to redo this as ext4 or upgrade it.00:28
Gallomimiait's /boot00:29
Gallomimiaeverything except that is encrypted00:29
tomreyn"Directory /home to mount over is not empty"00:31
Gallomimiaunexpected00:31
tomreynmake sure    /mnt/    is empty, then    mount --bind / /mnt     then clear out    /mnt/home/   then    umount /mnt00:32
Gallomimiahm. you're smart with linux AND a mindreader?00:32
tomreynneither sadly00:32
* uRock sees tomreyn denying skillz00:33
Gallomimiawhoa. what's all this in here!00:33
Gallomimiajust an old .dbus folder00:34
Gallomimiadone00:35
hackatheos_Is kali better than ubuntu00:36
uRockno00:36
hackatheos_For hacking00:36
Gallomimiastrongly depends upon what you're doing.00:36
Gallomimiawell, perhaps00:36
hackatheos_Legally00:36
uRockdeopends on who's behind the keyboard00:36
uRockyou can install everything that's in Kali in ubuntu00:37
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hackatheos_okay i need a crash course through linux pls00:37
hackatheos_Unix system i no00:37
uRocklmao, depends on what you want. We don't help people crack here00:38
hackatheos_Different branches from linux unix kernel00:38
Gallomimiayeah that's good for a laugh. a human who knows a unix system00:38
hackatheos_Yeah im best friends with one00:39
hackatheos_His name is kernel00:39
hackatheos_kernel sa00:39
uRockkernel Sanders?00:39
hackatheos_Yaaaaasss00:40
hackatheos_O my god i didnt even finish typing it00:40
uRockAdmittedly, I use Kali when I'm misbehaving, but only due to the fact that the script kiddie app I use is more up to date in Kali00:41
tomreynGallomimia: did you see the discord snap issues? i think there's also an apt repo from discord, might be a better choice.00:41
uRockwe're about to get kicked for being off topic, though00:41
Gallomimiai saw some of them tomreyn which is why i use a different snap. if there's an apt repo i will prefer that00:42
tomreynGallomimia: its spamming your log, probably still now (journalctl -f  to follow the log)00:43
hackatheos_uRock: yay scriptkiddies00:43
Gallomimiai have removed a few snaps while we were talking00:44
* uRock is addicted to wifite00:44
* hackatheos_ has to love that wifite00:45
tomreynGallomimia: i can't seem to spot where it gets stuck though, it may be helpful if you'll reboot and have the keyboard get stuck, then try to recover it and reboot gracefully or use magic !sysrq00:45
Gallomimiarecovering it is quite un-possible00:48
tomreyn!sysrq | Gallomimia: even with this00:48
ubottuGallomimia: even with this: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key00:48
Gallomimiathe only thing i've ever been able to get it to do after it freezes is go into emergency mod00:48
Gallomimiayes that00:48
Gallomimiait spams out a list of commands, but none of them work00:48
tomreynwhat spits out a list of commands which don't work?00:49
Gallomimiahand mashing00:49
Gallomimiahonestly00:49
tomreynwhat's emergency mode,do you mean reboot to !recovery?00:49
Gallomimiano it just gives that list of commands. none of which seem to work00:50
tomreynwhat is "it"?00:50
Gallomimiaif i knew that....00:50
Gallomimiait shows when i get frustrated and mash the keyboard, after the freeze/hang00:51
tomreynwhen does your system "spam out [this] list of commands"?00:51
tomreyni see00:51
tomreynso it still accepts input there00:51
Gallomimianot exactly00:51
Gallomimiaaside from repeating the menu, it behaves as if the keyboard is disconnected00:52
tomreynmaybe you can recreate this situation and take a screen shot the classic way00:52
Gallomimiano lights show, no locks go on00:52
Gallomimia"classic" way00:52
tomreynusing a smartphone or camera00:52
Gallomimiamore like, the new way for stupid-phone thumb gluers00:52
tomreynthe idea with making the system stuck there is that you can then (assuming you can reboot gracefully, with synching and unmounting file systems) review    journalctl -b -1   after you rebooted and see where it got stuck.00:53
Gallomimiai bet that command would show something right now00:54
Gallomimiaand no. i can't reboot gracefully00:54
hackatheos_I use a phone because iys more portable https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NhzkeZNh/iUseAphone.png00:54
tomreynother than that this log actually doesn't look bad at all.00:56
Gallomimiawell.... that's good. i'm inclined to leave it00:56
Gallomimiai actually just managed to get it to boot from the encrypted LV today. and i don't know why00:57
Gallomimiamy unencrypted drive stopped working somehow, somewhy00:57
hackatheos_How can i get invited to linux00:59
Gallomimiawhich kind of troll is this?!00:59
tomreynGallomimia: you meantioned this before, right? just making sure:   md: kicking non-fresh sdb3 from array!01:00
Gallomimiawe touched on it yes. that drive is some kind of hoopla01:00
tomreynwell, make sure cat /proc/mdstat seems sound01:01
Gallomimiasmart reports show some unclear but bad things. i think the r/w head is borked01:01
tomreynshould have no underscores in square brackets01:01
Gallomimiait shows [_UU]01:02
Gallomimiawhich is normal these days01:02
Gallomimiai should really buy some new drives. maybe a pair of 4's and transfer to a raid 101:04
Gallomimiawhat the smeg does this mean? snd_hda_codec_hdmi hdaudioC2D0: HDMI: invalid ELD data byte 801:20
Gallomimiagoogle reports it makes so01:20
uRockyou broke it01:20
Gallomimiasound not work but01:20
Gallomimiamy sound does work. i don't often play thru the display port or hdmi output.01:20
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Gallomimiahowever, i do sometimes get a weird scratchy echo on the analog output01:21
hackatheos_This is why windows exists01:22
Gallomimiastop your trolling01:23
hackatheos_https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xs8QpZeZ/cautionary.png01:23
hackatheos_Troll on you.01:24
hackatheos_No ubuntu is better in many aspects than windows01:24
tomreyn!discuss01:25
ubottuWant to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!01:25
hackatheos_Oh thanks01:25
hackatheos_Sorry ive been on the wrong chan01:25
uRock!xorg01:25
ubottuX.Org is an implementation of the X Windows System, and is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart it on an Ubuntu system, type 'sudo service lightdm restart'. To fix screen resolution or other X.Org problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution . See also !xorgconf01:25
uRocknever had any problems with that.01:26
Gallomimiahave i ever01:34
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naribiahello, I recently purchased a laptop, and accidentally installed ubuntu fully, when I was planning to have duel boot. I see the windows boot manager there, is there any way to recover windows?02:07
Gallomimiayou might try to recover the partition, but it's much more likely that ubuntu overwrote everything02:21
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Gallomimiathink about it.... if windows was installed at the start of the disk, with blank space after, then ubuntu gets installed, at the start of the disk, with blank space after02:22
Gallomimiait's gone mate.02:22
tonytnaribia google the machine name/model along with key combo for a 1 time boot menu. if the machine has that option, if windows is still on the machine ou will be able to boot in to it02:23
tomreynnaribia timed out some minutes ago02:23
tonytwhoops. k02:23
Gallomimiai think you're better off just looking at the Disks program, and seeing if there's any windows partitions there02:23
Gallomimiaah. it's a shame we have to hide leave/joins in this channel to barely use it02:24
tonytexpsensive mistake for sure02:24
Gallomimianot so bad. acquire a reinstallation media for windows. something you should have anyway02:24
Gallomimiayou have no business owning a computer if you don't have a bootable rescue disk. i'm aware they stopped providing them, but the requirement stands02:25
TheFatherMindQuestion: So it seems like my laptop is configured so that if the screen is down and physical external screen is connected it automatically goes into sleep mode. How can I turn that off?02:37
tomreynAnswer: HandleLidSwitch=ignore in /etc/systemd/logind.conf02:41
TheFatherMindThank you so much02:41
tomreynResponse to indication of gratitude: You're welcome.02:42
TheFatherMindUsing a virtual screen.  Every time I unplug the physical screen it was going it to sleep mode.  Took me a moment to figure out what was happening.02:42
TheFatherMindWell virtual video driver02:42
tomreynThis setting will entirely disable automatic suspend when closing the lid, though, not just if there's an external monitor connected. I don't know of a better way which handles these cases seperately.02:45
tomreynYou can still suspend from the menu, though.02:45
tomreyn(Alt + Power off icon)02:46
TheFatherMindThis will be running some server type services so I intend on keeping it always on.02:46
tomreynAh so it's actually desirable this way.02:47
TheFatherMindCorrect.02:47
empty_cupanyone have experience with linux traffic control (tc) and the police action?02:47
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Gallomimiathe... WHAT?03:37
triplebI want to ask about the Realtek RTL8723BE wireless card. I have an HP 455 probook. (Windows sees 20 wifi signal, ubuntu 18.04 barely sees my signal next to it from my phone and is easily disconnected.) The question is, will the newer Ubuntu be better?03:41
OerHekstripleb, how did you install that  RTL8723BE driver?03:42
triplebOerHeks: i didnt. It is the original.03:42
OerHeksit is known for giving troubles under linux.03:42
OerHeksantenna thingy03:42
OerHekshttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=240450803:42
OerHeksremove the driver, sudo modprobe -r rtl8723be03:43
triplebOh thanks. Will Klik.03:43
OerHeksand add again, with the right antenna config : sudo modprobe -v rtl8723be ant_sel=203:43
triplebGotcha03:43
triplebThank you.03:44
triplebOerheks03:44
OerHeksthis post gives an example howto make it permanent03:44
OerHekshttps://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2404508&page=2&p=13811536#post1381153603:44
TheFatherMindThe virtual video card to screen is not working out.  I cannot get Ubuntu to react properly to it.  It keeps switching it off.  Is there a way to stop this from happening or to just remove it so linux does not detect it?  Even when it is off it still is causing funky stuff to happen.04:01
TheFatherMindMight also be the internal laptop screen.  Not sure04:02
TheFatherMindI am actually having issues with the virtual screen and the internal laptop screen.  I need to permanently disable the internal laptop screen.04:34
saaamHey there, I've got an interesting challenge: is there a way to tell if a 12.04 LTS system was upgraded to 14.04 LTS? Are any files/artefacts/configs left behind which would indicate that, once the upgrade process was completed successfully?05:27
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TheFatherMindwhat happens when you type lsb_release -a05:29
lotuspsychjesaaam: are you paying for ESM support?05:29
Jake-abcHello.05:30
TheFatherMindOh yeah I totally read his question wrong.05:30
saaamThese aren't my systems; as part of a DD exercise, once of the things I just got asked was if I could tell whether an existing Ubuntu 14.04 LTS system was upgraded from 12.04 LTS, and if so, when. The end client is looking at ESM.05:30
saaamEr, one of the things, even.05:30
lotuspsychjesaaam: we dont support neither 12.04 or 14.04 but feel free to discuss things at #ubuntu-discuss05:31
saaamThis isn't about support.05:32
TheFatherMindLOL that is why he sent you to "-discuss"05:32
saaamSo let's say, is there a way to, on an Ubuntu 16.04 LTS system, which is still under support, is there a way to tell if it's a "native install", or been upgraded from 14.04 LTS before that one expired? :D05:32
TheFatherMindThis room is basically #ubuntu-support05:33
saaamYeah, fair enough.05:33
TheFatherMindMaybe take a peek in the /etc/apt source folders for remanents.. IDK just guessing.05:34
Jake-abcSymlink question. I created a soft symlink in ~/Desktop/ to an ods (spreadsheet) file elsewhere. When I double-click the symlink's icon in Nautilus, it opens the file in the appropriate program. However, when I double-click the symlink icon on the Desktop, itself, it says "Command not found." What might be stopping it from working on the desktop?05:34
Jake-abcShould probably mention that I'm on Ubuntu 19.04.05:34
saaamTheFatherMind: That's probably the one. I mean, realistically, for *any* version, I should just use a find with ctime params to check for files older than a few years.05:35
rfmsaaam, "grep cd /etc/apt/sources.list" will pop out the cdrom entry for the original install05:41
saaamrfm: Nice, thank you. That's the one, I think. Since I can SaltStack that one and figure out what percentage of the fleet went through lifetime upgrades, versus clean installs.05:42
saaamIt's amusing to get a six-figure bill from Canonical, and the first digit isn't a 1.05:43
TheFatherMindI cannot believe I got so close on a random guess.  (:05:43
* TheFatherMind pats himself on the back... (and admires rfm for knowing)05:44
lotuspsychjeplz focus on support here guys05:44
Baikonurhey, I know it's not what most people are into, but I have a question regarding Ubuntu on windows subsystem for linux06:03
zmagiiBaikonur: yes? i also use the WSL06:04
Baikonurmy apt upgrade is keeping back ubuntu-wsl and wslu packages, is it safe for me to update them manually, they're not massive meta-packages that are going to change my release version to newer or something?06:04
zmagiiwhat do you mean keeping back06:10
zmagiii am running update and upgrade quickly to see what messages i get06:11
Baikonurwhen I run apt-get upgrade, it says "the following packages have been kept back:"06:18
Baikonurand the next line "ubuntu-wsl wslu"06:18
EriC^^Baikonur: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:23
Bashing-omBaikonur: generally there is a reason that packages are kept back, However, opne can force the upgrade with ' sudo apt full-upgrade '. Ya might ask >>06:24
Bashing-om!wsl | Baikonur06:25
ubottuBaikonur: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide06:25
zmagiiwhen I run upgrade06:27
zmagiii don't see any held back06:27
zmagiiis this your first installation of ubuntu on wsl or is this after doing an upgrade06:27
Baikonurit's a fairly new installation, couple of days06:28
BaikonurEriC^^: I wan't to keep it on the LTS version, wouldn't a dist-upgrade update my release version past that?06:29
Bashing-om!dist-upgrade | Baikonur06:30
ubottuBaikonur: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.06:30
zmagiiBaikonur: it seems like i don't have wslu installed. According to apt it is a "collection of utilities for the Windows 10 Linux Subsystem" but it does not have "[installed]" next to it, meaning i don't have it installed06:31
Baikonuroh, ok06:31
zmagiiBaikonur: having said that, my ubuntu wsl console works06:31
Baikonurwell I'll do a dist-upgrade then06:31
zmagiiso did you install wslu manually?06:31
Baikonurno06:31
Baikonurmaybe it came with something else, like build-essential or something06:31
zmagiicertainly it seems like i don't have it installed; if i run install and cancel it i can see for example i don't have some of the dependencies either, like "libpulsedsp"06:32
zmagiiincidentally, i do in fact have build-essential installed06:33
Baikonurok dist-upgrade did upgrade them just fine06:33
Baikonurthanks06:33
zmagiiBaikonur: btw, a few things you should keep in mind about WSL is that some things can't be done, for example sshuttle won't work like it will on "the real" ubuntu06:34
zmagiiBaikonur: glad it worked06:34
zmagiihowever, for perl/python/etc WSL is great for me06:34
zmagiiand you can easily edit anything in the windows filesystem through /mnt/c/06:35
zmagiiif you have network drives you need to mount them manually though through a folder, for example /mnt/shared_drive/06:36
Baikonuryeah I've been using it for python and bash scripting06:36
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isomarigreetings, what is the top left menu called on all gui apps that contains the "more actions>special window settings?07:44
lotuspsychjeisomari: activities corner you mean?07:45
humpledthe one with the close/maximise/minimise etc options ?07:46
KOLANICHHi everyone. Where can I change dkms flags? IDK why but it seems someone has combined incompatible flags (-mindirect-branch and -fcf-protection) breaking build of essential modules like bcmwl.07:50
isomarilotuspsychje: Sounds right. thanks07:51
lotuspsychjeKOLANICH: can you tell us the whole story please, ubuntu version and what are you doign with broadcom driver? pastebin your apt output07:52
KOLANICHlotuspsychje: 1. I have accidentially nuked /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu. 2. I have decided that if I have to reinstall all the packages I should update to eoan simultaneously. 3. I have managed get apt working (I had an iso) so I have reinstalled the most of packages. But some essential ones are broken, like systemd, systemd-networkd. So now I have no network on pc and am writing from a phone.07:56
lotuspsychjeKOLANICH: 19.10 support, please join in #ubuntu+107:56
TheFatherMindI need to run xrandr to disable  a ghost screen.  Where is the best place to put that so it runs just after the graphical interface initializes?  I have tried putting it in a number of places but nothing seems to work.07:59
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fobo7hi all, i use ubuntu 18.04 lts and i5 8400, with integreted video, and i have freezing lspci | grep -E «VGA|3D» 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 3e92, how to fix?08:09
fobo7may not have installed drivers from the video card?08:10
ducasseTheFatherMind: ~/.xsession should work08:12
ducasseTheFatherMind: ~/.xsessionrc i mean08:13
ducassefobo7: the intel drivers are installed by default, so you should have those. is your bios up to date?08:15
fobo7 lspci | grep -E «VGA|3D» mast show UHD 630?08:16
fobo7must*08:16
ducassefobo7: i'm not sure what it should show08:18
fobo7on another pc shows Intel HD 610 and all warks08:20
fobo7need update bios?08:20
ducasseit's one thing i would check08:20
fobo7PRIME B360M-A BIOS 2602, new release 2019/08/2708:21
fobo7people fix so GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.alpha_support=1" on 17.0108:22
deancHey, im having problems with pairing on my 1000XM3 sony bluetooth headphones. I can pair them, but let's say i turn them off and back on again they "connect" to my machine - it appears connected in the bluetooth panel but the audio source has not changed08:28
deancSorry i meant output. Furthermore, when I do change the audio output nothing happens. When i click test there are no speakers to click or anything08:28
deancThe only way to fix it is to put it in pairing mode again and manually disconnect and connect08:29
deanca bit annoying UX...08:29
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hans_it's a modded 18.04 from a VPS provider running on Xen, running apt update;apt full-upgrade; i got this, should i be worried? http://paste.debian.net/plain/110291409:30
hans_(ah, grub-common was already installed, nvm the last line)09:31
IsoLinCHiPHi there. Any ideas how I could revive an unresponsive USB cable mouse without rebooting? I have tried reattaching it (to various USB ports). I have tried said mouse on another computer and it works there. I have also attached a different mouse, which also does not move. The USB port is powered, as the DPI indicator on the mouse is lit and responds to changes in setting.09:47
IsoLinCHiPMy keyboard (that Im typing on right now) is also attached to USB, so the USB stack isnt totally broken.09:48
Ben64just seems like mice are broken09:50
IsoLinCHiPHehe. Yeah, I sure would be allot hapier if modern websites wouldnt rely on mice. ;-)09:50
Ben64does dmesg have anything exciting when you plug in a mouse09:51
Ben64and does xev show anything when you move a mouse around09:51
hans_IsoLinCHiP, probably possible and the answer is in /sys somewhere but.. sec09:51
IsoLinCHiPMaybe related or unrelated, I cant seem to switch the VT with Ctrl+Alt+FX . But Im not even sure that still works in Ubuntu 1809:52
mgedmindo you see any events if you try sudo evemu-record on the mouse device?  (does evemu-record _see_ the mouse device?)09:52
mgedminctrl+alt+fx should absolutely work in ubuntu 18.xx09:52
* IsoLinCHiP ist checking09:52
humpledbut only for 3-6?09:53
mgedminI get a gdm screen on tty1, my session on tty2, a text login on tty309:53
humpledah09:53
mgedmin(I'm on 19.04, but I think GUI sessions were moved from tty7 to tty1&2 several years ago)09:54
IsoLinCHiPNothign suspicious in dmesg. I get a disconnect and a reconnect message. I recognised the vendor correctly09:54
IsoLinCHiPxev does not produce events, as the mouse doesnt move09:54
mgedminif you don't have evemu-record installed, you can try sudo cat /dev/input/mice09:55
IsoLinCHiPmgedmin: I dont seem to have a binary named evemu-record09:55
mgedminsee if you get any garbage characters when you move the mouse09:55
IsoLinCHiProger09:56
Ben64that's a good one09:56
mgedminthis will at least narrow down if the problem is on the hardware/kernel level, or somewhere up the stack09:56
Ben64i'd maybe do hexdump though09:56
IsoLinCHiPmgedmin: Yes, /dev/input/mice produces output09:56
mgedminyeah, but I 'm not sure if that does any buffering09:56
IsoLinCHiPSo I guess X is confused?09:57
mgedminare you using Xorg or Wayland?09:57
IsoLinCHiPWhew, good question. My guess would be Xorg, unless Wayland became standard in Ubuntu 18?09:57
mgedminBTW gdm itself uses wayland even if your main session is Xorg, so you may want to ctrl+alt+f1 and test if the mouse works there09:57
mgedminif in doubt you can 'echo $WAYLAND_DISPLAY' in a terminal; if it's blank then you're on Xorg09:58
mgedminand if you're using the defaults then you're definitely on Xorg09:58
mgedminso, xorg: if you run xinput, do you see anything about the mouse?09:59
mgedmin(I'm on wayland so I can't check what the output is expected to look like, normally -- it's all virtual pointer devices for me)09:59
mgedmindoes the problem go away if you restart X (i.e. log out and log in again)?10:00
mgedmin(or do you wish to debug this without interrupting your user session?)10:00
IsoLinCHiPWhile not defaults - running i3, I am rather certain its on Xorg. Got now wayland processes10:01
mgedminsome X client might have grabbed the mouse and gotten stuck, eating all the events10:01
mgedminI remember using x2x a while back to control a remote computer with my local keyboard+mouse: if the network dropped I couldn't move the mouse or use the keyboard and it was no fun at all10:01
IsoLinCHiPYes, the mouse is registered to virtual core pointer10:01
mgedminso I know that it's possible for an X11 client to do this, which would also remove the events from xev10:02
IsoLinCHiPSneaky ;-D10:02
mgedminwhich is why it would be interesting to see if restarting X (and therefore killing all clients) would affect things10:02
mgedmin(or it could be an Xorg driver bug getting into some weird state where a restart might also fix things)10:02
IsoLinCHiPOk, the most likely candidate is my running virtualbox, but it also isnt moving the mouse10:03
mgedminthen there are things like multiple pointer support (where xinput would have shown the device not attached to the core pointer)10:03
mgedminah!  what's the key to ask virtualbox to release mouse/keyboard grabs?  ctrl+alt?  right ctrl?10:03
mgedminbut if vbox is itself stuck it might ignore the key and just not do anything10:04
mgedmincan you close virtualbox and see what happens?10:04
IsoLinCHiPMine is Right ctrl, Ive allready fiddled with that10:04
mgedminthere's a key that tells Xorg to break mouse grabs, which helps when dealing with buggy clients, but also completely breaks screen locking, so it's disabled by default10:04
IsoLinCHiPI would prefer to avoid shutting X or virtualbox down. I am also not confident suspending the VM would work.10:05
mgedminI think to enable it you have to edit xorg.conf and restart X, so it's not useful10:05
mgedmin(I don't ever recall suspending VMs not working for me, but I haven't used GUI VMs in a long time)10:06
mgedmink, next there's the Xorg accessibility feature mousekeys where you should be able to move the pointer with your keyboard10:07
mgedminI don't remember how you turn it on, and I wonder if the mouse grab (if there is one) would also intercept these synthetic mouse movements...10:07
IsoLinCHiPWell, I have a rather odd VM configuration ;-) (better not get into that)10:07
mgedminany other ideas?  'cuz I'm running out10:08
IsoLinCHiPUsing the keyboard to move the mouse would at least help me shut down my running session cleanly. Any ideas how to enable that?10:09
IsoLinCHiPNvm, found it10:11
IsoLinCHiPShift Num, after invoking setxkbmap10:11
IsoLinCHiPOk, that part works, strangely enough10:12
IsoLinCHiPWow, it even ignores VirtualBox desire to grab all keystrokes10:12
IsoLinCHiPSo I can even use it on the VM window10:13
IsoLinCHiPGod its gonna take so long to setup all my tmux sessions again the way I want them -.-10:13
IsoLinCHiPWell, I was lucky this time, I was able to resume the VM. So I didnt lose too much state. Restarting the X session fixed the issue. thanks for your time, mgedmin10:34
mgedminhuh, so closing virtualbox didn't fix it, but restarting X did?10:35
IsoLinCHiPThough I really would have like to avoid shutting down everything that was outside the VM10:35
mgedminthat doesn't sound like a stuck grab then ...10:35
IsoLinCHiPHmm, Im not even sure I tryed moving the mouse after I had closed VB, tbh10:36
mgedminah, that's a shame10:36
znullhttps://pastebin.com/raw/ACPaw4zi  hey i just bought some chinese intelimouse microsoft , and when i plug it on my ubuntu thinkpad it does not work,  on windows its ok10:46
IsoLinCHiPHmm, looks like today is mouse day ;-D11:01
IsoLinCHiPznull: Is your trackpad/trackpoint still working?11:02
znullIsoLinCHiP, yes11:03
IsoLinCHiPznull: Does the output of 'xinput' show the mouse under the text "Virtual core pointer"?11:03
znullIsoLinCHiP, it seems only on linux it does not work11:03
znullIsoLinCHiP, https://pastebin.com/raw/B8dLCkFf11:04
znull⎜   ↳ USB Gaming mouse Љ                        id=9    [slave  pointer  (2)]11:04
znull weird name11:04
IsoLinCHiPWell, looks good11:04
znullon windows its saying USB Gaming mouse Љ           and after few seconds it turns on Intellimouse 3.011:05
znullIsoLinCHiP, expect it does not work11:05
IsoLinCHiPWell, I wouldnt think that is the problem.11:05
IsoLinCHiPCan you check if running 'sudo cat /dev/input/mice' produces some sort of output on the terminal (if it does it will be unreadable, thats fine)11:06
znullIsoLinCHiP, trackpoint,trackpad works fine.. and the mouse i tried plugging on other usb ports.. same does not work ( it turns red but the pointer is not moving )11:06
znullIsoLinCHiP, no output11:06
znulloh11:07
mgedminany errors in dmesg | tail?11:07
IsoLinCHiPhmm, well, at that point we can rule out it being the same problem I just had11:07
znullIsoLinCHiP, it produce some sort of output when i play with my trackpoint, with mouse nothing11:07
znull cat /dev/input/mice11:07
znull▒�(�(�11:07
znull((�(�((�(((11:07
IsoLinCHiPYeah, as I said, its just about if it produces any output at all, not what11:08
znullmgedmin, https://pastebin.com/raw/n8cF0Syv no11:08
znullIsoLinCHiP,  is there any chance to force the mouse to use other mouse module ? since it works on windows11:09
mgedminthat looks like it should be working11:09
IsoLinCHiPIm sorry, I am out of ideas. My best guess is that the "Љ" character in the device name might be causing an issue, but wouldnt have any idea how to resolve it11:09
mgedminmaybe inspecting the actual events with evemu-record (instead of staring at the binary bytes in /dev/input/mice) would help?11:10
mgedminor looking at the udev properties assigned to this device?11:11
mgedminI'm not really qualified to debug this11:11
aandersei'm trying to get ubuntu 18.04 to authenticate against active directory via openldap + pam. i have followed this tutorial: https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_18.04&p=openldap&f=3 but can't seem to get it to work.11:15
aandersewhen i attempt to login via a console i observe this from watching journald: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C3r3VqdKjq/11:15
aanderseif anyone has any experience with pam_ldap i would greatly appreciate any help or advice they could provide11:16
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PrzemekF-wchtHello, what is the easiest way to install the WSL version of Ubuntu on Windows Server if Windows Store is not available on Windows Server?11:29
IsoLinCHiPThe fact that the device name changes when you plug it in to windows seems suspicious to me too. Maybe its just not linux compatible :-(11:31
tomreyn!wsl | PrzemekF-wcht11:33
ubottuPrzemekF-wcht: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide11:33
IsoLinCHiPznull: try researching the web for any other linux users of your mouse. Is it some funky mouse that has extra keypad buttons or something like that?11:33
znullIsoLinCHiP, http://tiny.cc/skdidz11:35
znullIsoLinCHiP, thats the mouse..11:37
IsoLinCHiPznull: Oh, hmm, well, that is surprising. I would not expect compatibility issues with linux, if its an original.11:38
znullIsoLinCHiP, well im not sure how original is.. they are from china lol11:39
IsoLinCHiPznull: Sorry, I am out of ideas. :-(11:39
PrzemekF-wchttomreyn: okay thanks, the channel #ubuntu-on-windows has 13 users while the instructions linked are for Windows 10 and cannot work on Windows Server because of lack of Windows Store11:39
znullIsoLinCHiP, maybe if i can write some udev rule to change that weird char.11:40
znullIsoLinCHiP, https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/119593/is-there-a-way-to-change-device-names-in-dev-directory something like this?11:40
lotuspsychjePrzemekF-wcht: there also ##windows if you like11:40
znullIsoLinCHiP,  but im not sure which device is11:40
BluesKajHiyas all12:03
vetrPrzemekF-wcht: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/install-on-server12:04
vetrYou may do it via powershell12:04
tomreynvetr: please /join #ubuntu-on-windows12:06
vetrI didn't ask the question12:07
PrzemekF-wchtvetr: Thanks. That page also has download links for Ubuntu 18.04 and 16.04 outside the Store. I will later try to install using the instructions.12:20
PrzemekF-wchttomreyn: I had joined #ubuntu-on-windows and asked the same question but didn't get any response there, only here12:23
lotuspsychjePrzemekF-wcht: i hope you understand we can only support plain ubuntu & its flavors here12:24
lotuspsychjePrzemekF-wcht: there's also ##windows if you want12:24
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tomreynPrzemekF-wcht / vetr: as lotuspsychje already stated, it's just that we'd like to keep WSL specific chat in a dedicated channel for now (and not here).12:34
ianliu80I have a Nvidia Quadro 4000, and I've installed the drivers with `ubuntu-drivers autoinstall`, but no driver was loaded: `lsmod | grep nv` returns nothing. Any help?12:34
ianliu80I've already rebooted my machine12:35
tomreynPrzemekF-wcht / vetr: this said, if you have generic ubuntu questions while using WSL, this place is as good as any.12:35
vetrUnderstood12:35
tomreynty12:36
tomreynianliu80: so did "ubuntu-drivers autoinstall" install a driver then?12:37
ianliu80tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/QMJkkDNk2S/ here are the packages containing "nv"12:37
tomreyni suspect this hardware i no longer supported by the proprietary nvidia drivers.12:39
ianliu80tomreyn: it is supported by the 390 driver series12:39
ianliu80from what I've been reading12:39
tomreyncan you show    lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 999912:40
ianliu80which is what ubuntu-drivers installed, by the way. Also, I can see there is a "nvidiafb" driver that can be loaded with modprobe. Is this normal? Shouldn't it be just "nvidia"?12:40
ianliu80tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7YDKrsJpdZ/12:41
tomreynit's normal that "nvidiafb" exists, yes.12:41
ianliu80tomreyn: I think the kernel module is on the paste because I've loaded it manually with modprobe. But even so it is not working12:43
ianliu80I've loaded nvidiafb and restarted gdm3 with `systemctl restart gdm3`. No luck :(12:43
tomreynhttps://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/149145/en-us states that the 390 driver supports quadro 4000, i agree.12:44
ianliu80tomreyn: I will try reinstalling ubuntu from a desktop live usb. This ubuntu was installed from a Server edition12:46
ianliu80thanks!12:46
tomreynsorry i can't help more, i'm not very well versed with those drivers.12:46
ianliu80no problem12:47
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skyliner369So, currently, I'm trying to get my GPU driver to work again. I'm having to hang onto my laptop and make sure it doesn't take off and fly away. it's radeon MOBILE graphics so MAD doesn't have a driver for me... and dell... well, you know dell. The xorg amdgpu driver seems to be installed fine but also be utterly broken. Currently running with nomodeset.12:48
skyliner369symptoms when running without nomodeset is a frozen black screen with a cursor in the corner that won't move. ctrl-f2 (or ctrl-alt-f2 or whichever.) won't run in terminal (server-esque) mode like normal. Total lockup.12:52
skyliner369would anyone be able to help me with my driver issues?12:57
tomreynskyliner369: your ubuntu version is?13:05
tomreynskyliner369: also hi ;)13:05
skyliner369Oh, 18.0413:05
tomreynskyliner369: please run and post the output of:  lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 999913:06
skyliner36918.04.01 specifically and sure thing.13:06
tomreynplease install all the pending updates then13:06
skyliner369Oh I've updated completely. even ran apt update then apt upgrade to cover all my bases.13:07
tomreynthen you woudn't be on 18.04.1 though13:07
Cheerywhen I disable lock screen, it still gives me this kind of weird preview screen when I'd just want the desktop to pop up13:08
skyliner369oh right. I'm on .3 then13:08
Cheerywhat's the name of that thing? just asking because I want to get rid of it.13:08
akemhpCheery, lock screen curtain i think.13:09
skyliner36900:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:15d0]13:09
skyliner369Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0812]13:09
skyliner36900:00.2 IOMMU [0806]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:15d1]13:09
skyliner369Subsystem: Dell Device [1028:0812]13:09
skyliner36900:01.0 Host bridge [0600]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Family 17h (Models 00h-0fh) PCIe Dummy Host Bridge [1022:1452]13:09
skyliner36900:01.2 PCI bridge [0604]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD] Device [1022:15d3]13:09
skyliner369Kernel driver in use: pcieport13:09
tomreyn!paste | skyliner36913:10
ubottuskyliner369: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:10
tomreynrepost to the pastebin if you wanted to share this with us, since we didn't receive all of it.13:10
skyliner369let's try that again. https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/RTxxtmVZjc/13:11
tomreynCheery: as far as i'm aware there is currrently no way to remove it (other than rewriting the software). you can just hit escape whenever it shows up, though13:12
skyliner369I totally forgot that IRCcloud is flakey with multi-line messages... or IRC itself.13:12
Cheeryhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1053021/how-do-i-disable-the-swipe-to-unlock-curtain13:12
Cheeryoh theres' comment somebody didn't get it to work13:13
Cheeryit's been annoying people for a while and now guys have somehow managed to make it stay. that's dedication13:13
rishavHi!13:14
skyliner369I'd be okay running with nomodeset but Blender runs like maya without a GPU.13:14
tomreynskyliner369: nomodeset is definitely wrong other than for recovery. which kernel are you on?13:15
skyliner369my GNOME version is 3.28.213:16
Cheerytomreyn: thanks for the esc tip.13:16
skyliner369@Cheery spacebar and enter should work too if I'm not mistaken.13:17
skyliner369@tomreyn I forget the command that prints the kernel ver13:17
tomreynskyliner369: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)13:17
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skyliner369...huh?13:19
Cheeryit seems like a trick13:20
Cheeryit's safe to run13:20
Cheerygives you this kind of link you can paste here: https://termbin.com/5ur413:21
leftyfbskyliner369: it gives us information about your machine, like the CPU and desktop environment13:21
leftyfbCheery: can we help you with something?13:22
skyliner369@tomreyn https://termbin.com/mn0q13:22
Cheeryleftyfb: came to ask about that screen lock curtain, but if it can't be removed for now, I'm ok I guess.13:23
tomreyn!ltse | skyliner36913:23
ubottuskyliner369: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack13:23
tomreynskyliner369: try upgrading your kernel as discussed there, this should make your graphics chipset work better.13:24
tomreyn(and upgrade X, too, i.e. just follow those instructions)13:25
skyliner369hopefully. I mean locking up before the login screen is pretty bad.13:25
tomreynit's newer hardware than the original ubuntu kernel released in april 2018 supported13:26
tomreynif you installed just recently (with a current installer image) you'd have had the LTSE kernel and X form the very start13:26
skyliner369worked fine for a bit. gave up when I sent my laptop up to get repaired. storage is fine. kept out of shipping.13:26
skyliner369I ah... slept on my laptop. XD13:28
tomreynif you prefer to keep working with the gerneral availability kernel (4.15) you can try booting with !kernelparm amdgpu.dc=013:28
skyliner369Nah I'd need a newer kernal sooner or later.13:28
skyliner369Just surprised USC didn't detect or push updates for it.13:29
skyliner369https://termbin.com/c69i is the new printout after running the command13:30
tomreynyou haven't rebooted, yet13:33
tomreynupgrading the kernel is one of the few things that's actually neeed for.13:34
tomreyn*needed13:34
skyliner369ah thanks. Well, here goes nothing. Going dark.13:34
RugHowdy all.  I'm running 18.04LTS on a server and I can't get it to stop using DHCP.  I've configured netplan for a static IP, and I've edited /etc/cloud/cloud.cfg.d/99-disable-network-config.cfg to disable the cloud-init but DHCP keeps getting picked up too, so my box has 2 IPs.13:37
tomreynRug: /join #ubuntu-server13:38
Rugtomreyn: ok thanks.13:39
skyliner369and back. No-go. still hard locks.13:39
tomreynskyliner369: i have only 10 minutes left for now, but if you'll share a system log i can have a look.   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999913:40
skyliner369https://termbin.com/68kk13:41
Guest_13Wassup, someone able to help me enable DRI3 or right install a driver for the amd RX570 on 18.04?13:41
skyliner369also, tom, the kernel update was a success so... at least I got that done. Haha13:43
tomreynGuest_13: the default driver (amdgpu) should just work. if it doesn't, make sure you're running the LTSE kernel and X:13:43
tomreyn!ltse | Guest_1313:43
ubottuGuest_13: The Ubuntu LTS enablement stacks provide newer kernel and X support for existing LTS releases, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack13:43
tomreyn!kernelparm | Guest_13: you can also try booting with amdgpu.dc=013:44
ubottuGuest_13: you can also try booting with amdgpu.dc=0: To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters13:44
skyliner369is there anything like apt autorepair, tomreyn?13:44
Guest_13thanks, give me some moments to figure it out rightly pretty new to it13:44
tomreynskyliner369: yes, under the hood. and there is    sudo apt -f install13:45
tomreyni'll be checking your log now, skyliner369, this will take time13:45
skyliner369Thanks for being so helpful, tomreyn13:45
tomreynskyliner369: actually it doesn't take time. remove nomodeset, reboot, if propblem persists, post another log13:46
skyliner369I can't post a log of booting without nomodeset. Lockup prevents such action.13:46
tomreyn!sysrq| skyliner369: then make it lock up once, try to recover using ctrl-alt-delete and13:47
ubottuskyliner369: then make it lock up once, try to recover using ctrl-alt-delete and: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key13:47
tomreynskyliner369: either way, you'll reboot that way. after reboot, post   journalctl -b -1  nc termbin.com 9999    which will then post your last but one log.13:47
tomreyn(i.e. that of the failed boot)13:48
skyliner369no response to ctrl+alt+del13:53
skyliner369https://termbin.com/fr2013:53
ppettina_Hi guys! Whom can I ask about the status of the packages in the ubuntu-toolchain-r PPA? or is there another channel?13:53
skyliner369though reisub did give me a clean reboot. Just remember it as "ray sub"13:54
tomreynskyliner369: you still booted with "nomodeset" on the log you just posted13:55
skyliner369thought maybe it would log previous boots.13:56
tomreynskyliner369: it could be that no log was recorded for that boot if it failed really early. when does your system fail when booting without nomodeset?13:56
lotuspsychjeppettina_: for ppa's contact their maintainer13:56
ppettina_lotuspsychje: I assume it's doko for this one then...13:57
skyliner369the mouse pops up and sometimes it moves a moment and other times it just is frozen while it's still in the corner. so before even the login screen. also it never has ubuntu loading dots on bootup.13:58
skyliner369but the no loading dots was normal behavior13:58
immu==]\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\13:59
skyliner369my computer boots with a gumstick.13:59
immuooops13:59
immuskyliner369, are you using nvida gpu? or are you on 19.10?14:00
skyliner369AMD GPU and on 18.04.3 LTS14:01
skyliner369it's a mobile radeon gpu so AMD doesn't have a driverfor it because Dell is supposed to do the drivers but dell is... well, dell.14:01
skyliner369Here's my CPU/GPU AMD® Ryzen 5 2500u with radeon vega mobile gfx × 814:02
tomreynskyliner369: try amdgpu.dc=0 then14:03
tomreynwithout nomodeset14:03
skyliner369in the spot where I write nomodeset?14:04
skyliner369I mean in the boot...script? when pressing e in grub14:06
tomreynyes14:06
skyliner369which line? or is it on the end of the linux line?14:07
tomreyn!kernelparm | skyliner369: here's the documentation again14:07
ubottuskyliner369: here's the documentation again: To add a one-time or permanent kernel boot parameter see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters14:07
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skyliner369I made it to login but failed when punching in my password.14:11
tomreynskyliner369: so you have a better log we can look at now.14:11
skyliner369I hope so.14:11
tomreynbut i'm about to leave, someone else will need to14:11
skyliner369https://termbin.com/esjk14:11
tomreynthat's still nomodeset14:12
tomreynnot amdgpu.dc=014:12
tomreynuse: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 999914:12
tomreyn... for the current boot's log14:13
tomreyn-1 for the previous14:13
skyliner369amdgpu.dc=0 failed at enter on login. Typical lockup of laptop trying to take off.14:13
skyliner369with* not of14:14
lotuspsychjeskyliner369: are you using stock amdgpu or a ppa?14:14
skyliner369stock.14:14
skyliner369AMD's PPAs won't work because of some laptop manufacturer BS amd talks about.14:15
tomreynskyliner369: i understand that the system locked up there. i also think that if the system reached the login prompt then something must certainly have been logged in your systemd journal for this failed boot. i was trying to help you post the log for this failed boot.14:15
tomreynjournalctl --list-boots    lists the previous boots, and in the first column, the counter you need to place at 'COUNTER' in this command to post this log:   journalctl -b COUNTER | nc termbin.com 999914:16
skyliner369my terminal is so full of ^C ^V derps lol14:17
tomreynok, ttyl14:17
skyliner369this is one potential. https://termbin.com/zcsz14:19
skyliner369Aha this is amdgpu.dc=0 https://termbin.com/bk1r14:20
skyliner369Here's a locking up boot https://termbin.com/t41414:24
ioriaskyliner369, what's your video card ?14:27
skyliner369Built in. AMD® Ryzen 5 2500u with radeon vega mobile gfx × 814:28
puxavidaI have a test box and I wanted to upgrade 19.04 to 19.10, but the install update-manager-core does nothing so do-release-upgrade doesn't find anyting and this is: For any new version selected in update manager.  I'm using xubuntu.  The release notes says that xubuntu 19.10 is available also and I see the iso.  Any ideas on how to get this going?14:28
ioriaskyliner369, have you tied to install amdgpu-pro  ?14:28
skyliner369what's the package name?14:28
ioriapuxavida, you need -d flag, but it's not recommanded14:29
puxavidaioria, would work for test test box, correct? ;)14:29
ioriasure14:29
ioriaskyliner369, Sep 27 09:51:17 skyliner-369-Inspiron-5575 /usr/lib/gdm3/gdm-x-session[1619]: (**) ModulePath set to "/opt/amdgpu-pro/lib/xorg/modules,/opt/amdgpu/lib/xorg/modules,/usr/lib/xorg/modules"14:30
puxavidathanks14:30
ioriaskyliner369, can you paste lspci -nnk ?14:31
skyliner369!paste14:31
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.14:31
ioriaskyliner369, lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 999914:31
skyliner369https://termbin.com/7xw114:32
ioriaskyliner369, sudo updatedb && locate amdgpu-pro14:33
lotuspsychjepuxavida: its reccomended to wait till final release for upgrading to devel releases14:33
skyliner369my terminal is 'thinking' now14:33
ioriait's updating14:33
skyliner369and done. No text then all the text lol14:34
puxavidalotuspsychje, ok thanks14:35
ioriaskyliner369,  did it ever worked , as fresh install i mean ?14:35
wonkoHow does transmission-daemon announce its IP address? I've got an ubuntu box with 2 interfaces. I need transmission-daemon to announce the one that isn't the default route.14:36
skyliner369I'll have to reboot. I think. Maybe the GPU won't freak out this time.14:36
skyliner369also is failing to load dev fb0 a bad thing?14:36
ioriaskyliner369,  did it work  as fresh install  ?14:39
skyliner369amdgpu fresh install? I'll have to reboot.14:40
immudid you try googling?14:40
immuor look at ubuntu forums?14:41
lotuspsychjeimmu: we dont advice google here14:41
immucan we advise ubuntu forums?14:41
lotuspsychjeimmu: this is the ubuntu support channel, so we try to give realtime advice as much possible here14:41
immubut he has hit a dead end14:42
skyliner369No cursor now as my laptop boots. And it's try to take off.14:42
ioriaskyliner369,  i mean; after the install, were you able to login or not ?14:42
lotuspsychjeimmu: no reason to send him into the empty field14:42
immuokie lotuspsychje14:43
skyliner369no go. now it doesn't have a mouse https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/DBnuznMN/DSC_0001.JPG14:43
lotuspsychjeskyliner369: did your graphics work before?14:44
ioriaskyliner369,  can you please read above ^14:44
immuskyliner369, can you post your gpu output ?14:45
ioriaimmu, https://termbin.com/7xw114:46
skyliner369Yeah. They worked before I sent my laptop in to Dell for a bent laptop. I took out the storage. Was still perfectly fine. Heck it was even working. Just the optical drive went flakey.14:46
ioriai'am out14:47
skyliner369Oh... Nevermind. Looks like I have a bus error now. Cool14:47
lotuspsychjeskyliner369: test a liveusb, see if your graphics work there14:48
skyliner369I'll... Write one.14:49
immuhow old is your laptop and which model?14:50
skyliner369Okay unable to... I think amdgpu-pro made it worse14:50
skyliner369And it's not too old. An inspiron 557514:50
skyliner369With an amd cpu14:50
immuwhich cpu? amd ryzen ?14:52
skyliner369termbin.com/y0xr14:52
skyliner369And yeah ryzen14:52
skyliner369I can ctrl alt f3 currently but no GUI right now. I'm probably going to end up having to scorch some earth soon maybe14:53
skyliner369The shame is I can't flapping dump anything to an external drive because... I can't afford one.14:54
lotuspsychjeskyliner369: please dont use this channel to describe every step you do, focus on actual ubuntu support questions14:57
tomreynskyliner369: did you install amdgpu-pro before we started to debug this one just during the past few minutes?14:58
skyliner369I was asked to try14:58
skyliner369So I tried14:58
tomreynskyliner369: i don't see anyone asking you to try it.14:59
tomreynskyliner369: ioria asked whether you had it installed, since it was spotted on your logs.15:00
tomreyngood find, ioria, i missed it15:00
tomreynskyliner369: ok, it's also on your previous / earlier logs. uninstall it and things should be fine without extra module parameters.15:01
puxavidaInteresting.  In 19.10, the chromium package will be managed as a snap.  As time goes on, what other packages will only be available as snaps??15:01
lotuspsychjepuxavida: 19.10 support in #ubuntu+1 please15:01
skyliner369Oh purge amdgpu pro? Sure15:02
tomreynskyliner369: next time you ask for support here please be sure to point out which related 3rd party software you're using.15:02
mgedminpuxavida: that's already the case for some things (lxd, kubectl, rgrep)15:02
mgedminooh ooh canonical-livepatch15:02
puxavidamgedmin, hmm, ok, didn't realize that.15:03
skyliner369Oh it was installed when ioria asked if I installed it due to me being terrible at the words thing15:03
tomreynskyliner369: it was installed when you posted the first system journal: https://termbin.com/68kk15:04
puxavidalotuspsychje, ok, just thinking out loud...15:04
lotuspsychjepuxavida: discussions are okay, in #ubuntu-discuss if you like15:05
skyliner369Oh this might be something... termbin.com/78wt15:06
tomreynsee what you posted15:06
skyliner369Oh... Cool it didn't say it couldn't find any amdgpu packages... "Yay"15:06
tomreynyou probably meant to redirect stderr to stdout, too15:07
tomreynadd    2>&1    before " | nc termbin.com 9999"15:08
skyliner369I wanted to purge "*amdgpu*" to purge all amdgpu packages15:09
puxavidalotuspsychje, ok15:09
tomreynskyliner369: you shouldn't, you need this driver, just not the -pro overlay15:10
tomreynskyliner369: you can also try to make -pro work, but then you need to get support directly from amd, it's not supported here15:10
RandolfSomething I love about Linux is that it doesn't bombard me with advertising or automatically re-install applications after I uninstall them.  It's so wonderful to have control over my computer.  Thanks to everyone who makes Linux a reality.15:10
skyliner369I never did pro until what's their name asked about it. I thought I was being asked to try it15:11
skyliner369I purged amdgpu completely and reinstalled amdgpu... Now I just am told to log in repeatedly. Never see desktop15:14
tomreynskyliner369: i do not mean to blame you there, but as pointed out previously, amdgpu-pro was installed ony our system from the very start. it is most likely what caused your issues in the first place.15:14
tomreynskyliner369: maybe your ubuntu had it preinstalled by dell when you bought it.15:15
skyliner369I might have directly installed from like xorg so I never saw "amdgpu-pro"15:15
skyliner369Nah I got this comp with win10pro15:16
skyliner369termbin.com/l19q15:16
skyliner369Running in server mode15:17
skyliner369Since desktop is unavailable15:17
tomreynquoting what you just posted: 'ModulePath set to "/opt/amdgpu-pro/lib/xorg/modules,/opt/amdgpu/lib/xorg/modules,/usr/lib/xorg/modules"'15:17
tomreyn"Loading /opt/amdgpu-pro/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so"15:17
skyliner369Oh so... Huh... I purge pro and still have pro? "cool"15:20
ioriayou don't purge it, you uninstall it (with its script), and btw, it wont work at all on 19.0415:21
skyliner369I'm on lts15:22
skyliner369How do I run the uninstall?15:22
tomreynskyliner369: we neither support its installation nor it uninstallation here, talk to amd15:22
skyliner369Amd says talk to Dell. Dell says talk to amd. Because I'm not on 14.0415:23
skyliner369Dell only supports Ubuntu 16.0415:24
tomreyni bet amd provides instructions on how to uninstall their software.15:25
tomreynhave you tried to find those?15:25
skyliner369I have. I get unhelpful unrelated installation guides15:27
tomreynso you did run the uninstall script which is pointed out on the first google web search result which comes up on a search for "amdgpu-pro uninstall"?15:28
skyliner369Command not found.15:29
tomreynif reinstalling is easier than cleaning this up, that's another option. ubuntu doesn't install amdgpu-pro on new installations.15:30
hans_this page has been loading for over 60 seconds now, i'm guessing that's not normal? https://i.imgur.com/QcyRzXy.png15:34
hans_think i should cancel the pageload and try to login again or just wait a bit longer?15:35
tomreynhans_: this is rather a topic for #canonical-sysadmin (after checking the channel /topic there)15:37
hans_ok, thanks (btw got a "proxy error" page now)15:38
skyliner369Is the IOMMU perf counter important?15:39
skyliner369Booting from dvd15:39
hans_the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixCompleteVirtualMailSystemHowto is "immutable", why? it also has a tag that says "Needs expansion - this article is incomplete and needs to be expanded"15:43
hans_tomreyn, is that also something for #canonical-sysadmin ?15:43
tomreynhans_: try #ubuntu-doc15:44
oeror maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/postfix.html15:44
skyliner369New development: booting from DVD failed.15:44
hans_oer, nah i wanted to edit the page15:45
oertime to reset google search results..15:45
skyliner369Which means dell fixed the bend but checked nothing else15:46
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hans_seems to be a slight bug with the postfix installation: if you run `apt install postfix` while /etc/aliases does not exist, you will get: /etc/aliases does not exist, creating it. \n WARNING: /etc/aliases exists, but does not have a root alias.15:53
tomreynhans_: so that's effectively pointing out that you should set a root alias to it. not an issue IMO.15:55
hans_when running `apt install mariadb-server; apt install mysql-client;`, the mysql-client installation wants to UNINSTALL mariadb-server .. is that intended? > The following packages will be REMOVED: mariadb-client-10.1 mariadb-client-core-10.1 mariadb-server mariadb-server-10.116:00
hans_don't see why installing a CLIENT warrants uninstalling a SERVER16:01
QuestionFavorite FTP clients?16:04
hans_Question, GUI or cli?16:04
QuestionGUI16:04
hans_Question, for GUI, FileZizlla. for cli.... curl16:04
QuestionOof. I wasn't a fan of filezila16:05
hans_because of the client itself? or because of the ads they bundle in the windows installer? or that they are withholding features for the pro version?16:06
QuestionWell like, WinSCP auto uploaded files after you saved a file.16:06
glitchdEriC^^, hey bud16:07
hans_FZ asks you first if you are in single file edit mode, "this file is edited, do you want to save?", but i thought you could just press "don't ask again" ?16:07
immuhi eric16:09
EriC^^hey glitchd16:10
EriC^^hi immu16:10
immuwhy can't i tag you EriC^^16:10
mgedminhans_: no idea, some apt conflict?  why are you installing mysql client when you already have mariadb-client-10.1?16:10
glitchdEriC^^, im back with the same problem but with a different machine..16:10
glitchdEriC^^, but, i got it to display and boot windows from grub, however its not displaying a listing for linux.16:11
immuEriC^^, i am on 19.10 beta 1 :)16:11
tomreynhans_: about the mariadb vs mysql community edition question: i think those packages are not coinstallable, probably due to the server packages depending on the client packages, and due to lib incompatibility.16:11
hans_mgedmin, following some tutorial using mysql but i wanted to use mariadb instead but the tutorial said `install mysql-client` so i did. didn't know that mariadb-client's binary is literally named `mysql` tho16:11
glitchdEriC^^, right now im on a different computer than the one im referring to, but the computer with the issue is booted to a live usb right now.16:11
glitchdEriC^^, do you think you could give me a hand setting grub up again for dual boot between w10 and linux?16:19
oerthere is a grub manual, howto reinstall after windows..16:22
oer!grub16:22
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub216:22
oer'restore grub'16:22
glitchdEriC^^, are ya busy?16:28
immulooks to be away from keyboard16:31
p0ahello does ubuntu have the openai/gpt-2 package?16:31
tomreynp0a: https://packages.ubuntu.com provide a package search.16:34
amosbirdhi, which package should I install to get krb5-config16:41
tomreynamosbird: that's the name of a package.16:41
amosbirdyeah, I'd like to find the binary16:42
EriC^^glitchd: can't right now sorry16:42
amosbirdafter installing it, I don't find that binaray16:42
glitchdEriC^^, no worries, thx anyways16:42
tomreynamosbird: libkrb5-dev provides /usr/bin/krb5-config16:43
tomreyn(also heimdal-dev, but i assume that's not what you want)16:43
zambadoes anyone know how to limit the number of concurrent ssh sessions towards an sshd?16:45
zambai have tried to do this in /etc/security/limits.conf16:46
zambabut it doesn't take16:46
zambai have restarted sshd after making the change16:46
tomreynamosbird: you could also have used     apt-file find 'bin/krb5-config'    or (if you're into regular expressions)     apt-file find -x 'bin/krb5-config$'     to determine this.16:47
tomreynzamba: you'd need to logout and login after editing /etc/security/limits.conf16:48
zambatomreyn: the user?16:48
tomreynoh wait, restarting sshd should probably have worked, sorry.16:48
zambai have set maxlogins to 4 for a particular user, but yet when i do 'ps uaxw | grep sshd | grep ^<username>, i see 11 connections16:49
zambaand this is clogging down my server16:50
amosbirdthanks16:50
amosbirdtomreyn: ^16:50
tomreynyw16:50
pikapikaWhere do I submit bug reports about "dead on arrival" software in the apt repositories?16:53
tomreyn!bug | pikapika16:53
ubottupikapika: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.16:53
pikapikaHmm16:53
pikapikaIt's not an Ubuntu bug, rather a package whose older version supplied in the repos no longer functions and it is required for whoever maintains the repos to update this software. Let me read that article.16:54
tomreynzamba: there is      MaxSessions     for configuring conneciton multiplexing in sshd_config16:56
tomreynzamba: MaxStartups may also be relevant. other than that you have the ipt_connetrack module in iptables.16:59
tomreyn*ip_conntrack, but i really meant iplimit17:01
aleksandrdvorkinhi i am trying to install Kodi on the Ubuntu 17.04 32 bit but apt-update returns 0% from all the sources17:06
tomreyn!17.04 | aleksandrdvorkin17:08
ubottualeksandrdvorkin: Ubuntu 17.04 (Zesty Zapus) was the 26th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 13th, 2018. See !eol and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2018-January/000228.html17:08
hans_when Shuttleworth said that 18.04 will get a 10 year support cycle, did he mean for Canonical customers, or for everybody?17:19
hans_ah, just Canonical customers apparently x.x17:21
nateHm, still can't get airplane mode unstuck.  I've tried updating the ucode file to the latest under the kernel firmware list, tried to force it with rfkill, tried nmcli trickery, tried some setkeycode trickery (to which interestingly showkey is not even registering the key presses)17:22
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Guest_13Hello all, i try allready since hours to install amdgpu i did download it idk how many times using several instructions i dont get the point (ubuntu 18.04) also iam pretty new to ubuntu if someone have an idea that is not to hard to understand i listen x)17:37
ioriaGuest_13, do you know that external drivers are not supported here ? what's the tar you dwl and what is your release ?17:46
hans_Guest_13, uhm gpu?17:47
hans_ioria, he said 18.0417:47
hans_Guest_13, what GPU do you have?17:47
ioriahans_, 18.04.1 , 2, 3 ?17:47
ioriait makes a difference17:48
Guest_13Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS got a amd RX57017:48
hans_kernel broke something again?17:48
ioriaGuest_13,  the tar.zx filename ?17:48
hans_Guest_13, wget https://drivers.amd.com/drivers/linux/amdgpu-pro-19.30-855429-ubuntu-18.04.tar.xz17:49
Guest_13amdgpu-pro-19.30-855429-ubuntu-18.04.tar.xz17:49
hans_and.. tar xf amdgpu-pro-19.30-855429-ubuntu-18.04.tar.xz17:49
ioriaGuest_13,  your kernel ?   uname -r17:49
adamretterI am trying to install 19.04 on my Macbook Pro 2019. After sucesfully booting the live USB neither the track-pad or keyboard seem to be operational. Any one know how to fix this?17:50
Guest_135.0.0-29-generic its it?17:50
ioriaGuest_13,  ok, what happens when you run the script ?17:50
hans_ouc never tried installing it on a 5.x kernel before17:50
hans_Guest_13, have you tried running sudo ./amdgpu-install   ?17:51
Guest_13well i did try allready many ways how to install it from terminal or giu mostly it just not find it17:52
Guest_13yes everything maybe iam just missing some point17:52
hans_ls17:52
hans_ls | pastebinit17:52
ioriaGuest_13,  did you make it exacutable ?17:52
hans_(surprised if tar didn't)17:52
Guest_13well i did download it i did extract it i did try to open the install files on different ways if you mean such?17:54
hans_Guest_13, run `ls | pastebinit` what do you get?17:55
amosbirdHmm, what's gutsy?17:55
amosbirdI see a              sudo ln -s gutsy /usr/share/debootstrap/scripts/${DIST}17:55
rfmamosbird, gutsy gibbon was ubuntu 7.10.17:59
ioriaGuest_13,  did you run this cmd   './amdgpu-pro-install –y'     from its folder  ?18:04
glitchdcan anyone lend a hand in fixing grub so that it lists both my linux install and my windows 10 install, it currently shows and boots windows 10 from grub, but it does not show my ubuntu install at all.18:07
erle-I installed Ubuntu server with SSH, but I cannot connect to it18:09
erle-SSH to localhost works18:09
noboru55hello18:09
erle-ufw (what a silly thing) is disabled18:09
erle-any ideas?18:09
noboru55someone could try to help me ?18:09
rishavglitchd,18:09
rishavGRUB_DEFAULT=018:09
rishavGRUB_TIMEOUT_STYLE=hidden18:09
rishavGRUB_TIMEOUT=1018:09
rishavGRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`18:09
rishavGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"18:09
Guest_13yes it just says it doesnt find it18:10
noboru55may i just write my doubt? sorry, first time here18:11
Guest_13sorry i just take pretty long still18:11
rishavnoboru55, yes18:11
noboru55thanks, so lets go18:11
noboru55i have an old pc i guess, its a dual celeron 1.6 and 4gb ram ddr3,  i want to install the x64 ubuntu mate 19.04 but i am not sure my hardware will work good. and i was wondering about install it in a pendrive and not in hard disk...18:12
noboru55is it a good idea?18:12
ioriaGuest_13,  paste here the output of this :  ls -l  amdgpu-pro-install18:13
Guest_13not possible to find the dictionary ( i translate cause its not in english)18:14
iorianoboru55, dual core with 4g should work fine (on a pen drive will be very slow, not a good idea)18:14
jadaxwhat is the default gcc version on Ubuntu 18.04? Is it 7.4?18:14
noboru55ioria really? i just asked because live usb is fast...18:15
lordcirth!info gcc18:15
ubottugcc (source: gcc-defaults (1.176ubuntu2.3)): GNU C compiler. In component main, is optional. Version 4:7.4.0-1ubuntu2.3 (bionic), package size 5 kB, installed size 64 kB18:15
noboru55ioria i was worried because the ubuntu site says the requiriment is dual core 2.0 or plus18:16
noboru55anyway, i think you are right, other day i tried win in usb, that was impossible to run18:17
iorianoboru55, 1.2 Ghz  : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements18:18
iorianot 218:18
glitchdEriC^^, hey bud, do you have any time to help me out?18:18
noboru55mmmm.. maybe because i saw that in ubuntu mate website  for x64 version18:18
noboru55ioria does the x64 lightweight than 32 ?18:19
noboru55sorry i am so newbie18:19
iorianoboru55, nope18:19
noboru55right18:20
noboru55i almost downloaded the raspberry version lol18:20
ioriaGuest_13,  please, cd in the download directory and run this cmd :   ls -al  | nc termbin.com 9999    ; yoou'll get an url and paste it here18:20
noboru55ioria if possible, just take a look https://ubuntu-mate.org/download/18:21
noboru55and sorry my english18:21
iorianoboru55, and what's your question about that page ?18:21
Guest_13https://termbin.com/fn9j18:22
noboru55ioria the x64 needs more ram than 3218:22
lordcirthnoboru55, 64bit binaries use slightly more RAM than 32.18:23
noboru55ioria thank you for your time, now i know i can install x64 and its better todo in harddisk...18:23
lordcirthNot much, though.18:23
ioriaGuest_13,  cd  amdgpu-pro-19.30-855429-ubuntu-18.04    and ls -al | nc termbin.com 999918:23
iorianoboru55, ok18:23
noboru55lordcirth great! thank you !18:23
noboru55excuse me all, i am going to install my ubuntu... see ya18:24
Guest_13cd  amdgpu-pro-19.30-855429-ubuntu-18.04 <- if i just to this in the blank terminal it cannot find it18:24
jadaxI'm on Ubuntu 16.04 with default gcc v 5.4; I just installed 7.4 from ppa:ubuntu-toochain-r/test18:25
jadaxhow do I updated it systemwide now?18:25
jadaxI saw few stackoverflow posts going through multiple, separate configs to make it happen; is there maybe some streamlined process for that ?18:26
ioriaGuest_13,  ls  amdgpu-pro-19.30-855429-ubuntu-18.04   | nc termbin.com 999918:26
lordcirthjadax, could it be easier to upgrade to 18.04?18:28
jadaxas a matter of fact it could18:28
jadaxbut I want to switch gcc also for learning experience18:28
jadaxbefore I update18:28
palo-altohello anyone there18:29
saornope18:29
thebrickedover here i am here18:29
thebrickedsad18:29
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palo-altoany one how to send file on irc18:30
saordcc18:31
akemhpUse google drive or something else it will be a lot easier.18:32
Guest_13i think i did it x) i did just drag the file into the terminal and press enter now its installing18:33
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Gallomimiaevery day. something different is wrong with my boot up. every single day.18:39
gambl0reanyone know how to import specific css styles using semantic-ui-react?18:40
lloydxmasnot sure it's possible to import a specific css style (class)18:41
psilly0Hello, I am SSHing to a server and issuing commands in a script. However once i SSH into its a noninerative shell and i loose my $PATH, $HOME, $GEM_HOME etc. How can i make sure that it keeps my orginal paths from my interactive shell???18:54
Guest_13well it did disconnect me directly after installation but everything works now smoothly thanks ioria18:57
ioriaGuest_13, good job18:57
lordcirthGallomimia, do you need help with it?18:59
wonkotrying to upgrade from 19.04 to 19.10 and it got stuck. Killed it and trying to get it going again it looks like this is what got it stuck maybe:19:06
wonkowonko@deepthought:~/.config $ sudo dpkg --configure -a19:06
wonkoSetting up grub-pc (2.04-1ubuntu6) ...19:06
amosbirdHi, where can I get debuild?19:07
znullanyone know how could i debug this ? https://tinyurl.com/y5kzkqko19:08
znull this mouse works on windows but not on linux  https://pastebin.com/raw/DNGCqi8p19:08
ioriaamosbird,  devscripts19:08
amosbirdthanks19:09
tomreyn!ubuntu+1 | wonko: ubuntu 19.10 is unreleased, so upgrades are not supported, yet19:09
ubottuwonko: ubuntu 19.10 is unreleased, so upgrades are not supported, yet: Eoan Ermine is the codename for Ubuntu 19.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+119:09
wonkothanks19:10
tomreynpsilly0: maybe ssh -t or -T, see also the ENVIRONMENT section in ssh(1)19:14
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hans_popey, you here?19:20
hans_is there a seen bot present?19:21
lordcirthhans_, he's not in my scrollback (3 days)19:26
hans_thanks for checking19:27
psilly0tomreyn: thanks!19:27
tomreynyw19:27
naribiaany recommendations for a new laptop that works well with ubuntu ?19:32
saorDo you need graphics support?19:34
psilly0naribia:19:34
psilly0https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/alienware-17-area51m-laptop/wnser7cr5102h?mkwid=sbpphyI6C&pcrid=329217671224&pdv=c&product=WNSER7CR5102H&pgrid=67585100793&ptaid=pla-792239804283&VEN1=sbpphyI6C~329217671224~901pdb6671~c~~WNSER7CR5102H~67585100793~pla-792239804283&cid=312465122&lid=59673390895&dgc=st&dgseg=dhs&acd=1230923830920560&cid=312465122&st=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIprnRwd_x5AIVjdlkCh04_woWEAQYASABEgJcKvD_BwE&lid=59673390895&pt19:34
psilly0pla-792239804283&VEN1=sbpphyI6C%7E329217671224%7E901pdb6671%7Ec%7E%7EWNSER7CR5102H%7E67585100793%7Epla-792239804283&pgrid=67585100793&dgc=st&dgseg=dhs&acd=1230923830920560&VEN3=11100512111135097619:34
saorew19:34
saorI mean if you hate money, sure.19:35
psilly0saor: HAHAHAHAHA19:35
ioria RTX is too new19:36
TheFatherMindQuestion: I wish to set a hot key to Shift-Super-Down to go to the next desktop. But I do not want to remove the one that is already there. How can I add another hotkey for that without changing the existing one?19:38
TheFatherMindThis is in gdm19:39
doug16kwith a url like that (dell), I can only imagine what a trainwreck their backend code must be19:42
TheFatherMindIn general the Dell company is a trainwreck.  I had to stop buying from them.  I only use them for production servers now.19:43
JimBuntuWell, I think you could stop at https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/cty/pdp/spd/alienware-17-area51m-laptop19:45
znullanyone knows what is MTP device ? https://pastebin.com/raw/LYsWf3iD19:51
leftyfbznull: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol  first result on google for "mtp device"19:52
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RougeRhi20:25
RougeRsoo20:25
RougeRtrying to install ubuntu on a new build20:25
RougeRcant get beyond the purple boot screeen20:25
RougeRpressing escape brings up a lot of failure messages20:25
RougeRmobo is a msi b450 mortar20:26
simulantHi does anyone use KDE and can help. I have asked in Kubuntu channel but it seems pretty quiet in there. I can't login to plasma desktop, the sddm login screen just loops when I put my password in. Any help appreciated20:30
aleksandrdvorkinhi does anyone know why is Ubuntu16.04 is missing initrd when i try to burn its ISO to flashdrive20:31
aleksandrdvorkini checked the md5sum of the ISO i downloaded and its correct but INITRD is missing when burning the ISO to flashdrive20:32
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guntbert simulant: in most cases this is caused by the fact that   ~/.XAuthority (or a similar file)  belongs to root - often because some GUI program has been run via   sudo20:45
tomreynRougeR: what's the file name of the ubuntu installer you downloaded?20:46
tomreynand while you're at it, get its sha-256 checksum, too20:47
tomreynaleksandrdvorkin: maybe you're not using a good utility to write the ISO file to the USB.20:48
trileadI would like to enable the experimental ZFS installer support in ubiquity. From what I gather there is a syslinux parameter I can pass to do that but I can't find any info on what it is.20:48
tomreynaleksandrdvorkin: usb-creator-gtk usually works20:48
trileadAnyone know what it is?20:48
tomreyntrilead: there's no ubuntu released where this is possible, yet20:48
tomreyn!ubuntu+1 | trilead20:49
ubottutrilead: Eoan Ermine is the codename for Ubuntu 19.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+120:49
trileadYeah sorry forgot to say I am using the live image for 19.1020:49
trileadIll switch over there, my bad20:49
tomreynit should become available in this future release20:49
javashinhow can be fixed chromium to have vaapi ??????????????????????20:52
tomreynjavashin: see bug 181649720:56
ubottubug 1816497 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "[snap] vaapi chromium no video hardware decoding" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/181649720:56
chris11ls -la lists username as an owner of a directory. Does the root user have the same permissions as usernam in this directory?20:57
RougeRtomreyn, its alright20:58
RougeRpretty sure its an amd randrfault20:58
tomreynRougeR: if you'Re installing 19.04 (you did not say), that's possible.20:59
RougeRi am yeah21:00
RougeRwith  ryzen 360021:00
RougeRim going to try 18.0421:00
tomreynchris11: yes, unless further restricted using apparmor (or extended ACLs via setfacl, i guess)21:01
chris11ugh, thanks. I have a teamcity job that isn't creating logs. Not having write access to the dir would have been an easy fix.21:02
tomreynRougeR: bug 1835809 lists workarounds IIRC21:03
ubottubug 1835809 in systemd (Ubuntu Eoan) "AMD Ryzen 3000 series fails to boot" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183580921:03
RougeRyeah found that just21:03
RougeR:)21:03
RougeRbut thanks21:03
RougeRubuntu 18 booted21:04
chunkypuffsHey, anyone around?21:13
ryuo!ask21:13
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience21:13
chunkypuffsI mean I see 1141 people here, but don't know if people talk in this wasteland.21:13
chunkypuffsGreat, dunno if this is the right place to ask it though, so please direct me to the correct place:21:14
chunkypuffsThe Ubuntu CLI installer is amazing. The one used for the server package. It uses so many unix tricks to get stuff done faster. Where can I find the source for it?21:14
chunkypuffsI want to make a similar installer for another distro, and I need a place to start.21:14
ryuoit's probably the same one debian uses.21:15
chunkypuffsUses the pipeline, everything is as asynchronous as it can possibly be.21:15
chunkypuffsNah it's way more impressive dude.21:15
chunkypuffsIt has way surpassed the Debian installer, have you tried 19.04's installer?21:15
ryuono? i don't use non-LTS releases.21:15
chunkypuffsIt is a completely new and unique thing, and I want to see what it's doing.21:16
chunkypuffsI can't find its source.21:16
hggdhchunkypuffs: probably #ubuntu-server will have someone that actually works on it21:17
chunkypuffsAh it's called subiquity21:19
ryuoi wasn't positive of the name, though i knew it started with sub.21:19
aleksandrdvorkini tried writing the ubuntu 16.04 with just dd command then i used windows utility and the same thing the Linux initrd is missing21:35
hggdhaleksandrdvorkin: (1) what, exactly, is "Ubuntu 16.04"? An ISO image? Also, how did you code your dd?21:36
aleksandrdvorkinthe ubuntu 16.04 ISO i tried dd if=/pathtoISo/ of=/dev/sdb1 and it wont boot to Ubuntu installer says initrd is missing or similar message21:38
aleksandrdvorkinI tired the WinUSB windows istaller with the same ISO and it fails with Linux initrd missing21:39
tomreyn!checksum | aleksandrdvorkin21:42
ubottualeksandrdvorkin: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows21:42
aleksandrdvorkini verified the md5sum is ok21:46
tomreynwhat is the checksum value or filename?21:48
aleksandrdvorkinfeefb18e7916c9a16bb09923ed98df64 *ubuntu-16.04.6-desktop-i386.iso21:50
aleksandrdvorkini compared it with  the downloaded file they match21:50
tomreynok, now use a software which can verify it wrote it to the installer media correctly.21:52
tomreynbalena etcher for example21:52
tomreynthe dd attempt earlier won't have worked since you wrote it to a partition, not the raw device21:53
aleksandrdvorkinhow do i install and start balena etcher21:58
aleksandrdvorkinand do i format the USB flashdrive to FAT32 before using the Balena etcher21:59
aleksandrdvorkinwhat the sudo command for installing balena etcher22:01
tomreynaleksandrdvorkin: it's not in ubuntu, it's a third party software. there are alternatives, too.22:02
tomreynaleksandrdvorkin: https://github.com/balena-io/etcher#debian-and-ubuntu-based-package-repository-gnulinux-x86x6422:04
tomreynit'S a large download, though, you can do the same with CLI utilities.22:05
tomreynhttps://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/75483/how-to-check-if-the-iso-was-written-to-my-usb-stick-without-errors/75513#7551322:07
TheFatherMindQuestion: I wish to set a hot key to Shift-Super-Down to go to the next desktop. But I do not want to remove the one that is already there. in gdm how can I add another hotkey for that without changing the existing one? Like edit config files and such.22:09
jrgilmanhey how can I start to diagnose window "tearing," for instance when I move a window and it tears while dragging as if part of the window is refreshing too slowly and seems to follow another part of the window?22:10
aleksandrdvorkinhow do i find the directory where the balena etcher.zip was unzipped to22:13
tomreynGNU find lets you search for filenames on one or across multiple file system(s)22:14
tomreynanother option is locate (after updatedb)22:14
tomreynjrgilman: i'm not sure. but if it's an open source driver you could likely make use of https://www.mesa3d.org/envvars.html22:17
tomreynalso, there may be driver specific module parameters (e.g. "modinfo -p i915" for the intel driver)22:18
jrgilmanhmm okay i'll take a look appreciate it22:19

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