[00:00] and another 8 seconds for network manager / dhcp. you could mostly save those by using a static network configuration [00:00] holy..... CRAP [00:00] ? [00:00] well. the network situation is untennable and unfixable for now [00:00] the blame is pages [00:01] how can i make it output a sane view for pasting? [00:01] just the top 10 or 20 lines is fine [00:02] systemd-analyze blame | nc termbin.com 99999 [00:02] systemd-analyze blame | nc termbin.com 9999 << one less [00:02] * uRock sees the flood coming, lol [00:02] systemd-analyze plot > filename.svg [00:02] https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/MSZkmN8HrD/ [00:03] now there's blame and a plot? [00:03] tomreyn: nope/ [00:03] here's the netcat version: https://termbin.com/objv [00:03] plot makes an image [00:05] hmm 10 seconds waiting for plymouth to quit. maybe there's graphics initialization issues or something. [00:05] maybe... my mobo is very unfriendly, with a buggy amd-iommu [00:05] i also see this: Sep 26 17:31:20 draco-lambda gnome-session-binary[1751]: Unrecoverable failure in required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop [00:05] in my boot journal [00:05] googling that leads to a 1y+ old bug [00:07] uninstalling or replacing some snaps might help with a faster boot, too. [00:07] yep [00:07] snaps are poo [00:07] not poo [00:07] dont do snaps. mmmkay? [00:07] you can install latest stuff via snaps [00:07] :) [00:07] and avoid security holes [00:07] !discuss [00:07] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [00:08] thanks ;) [00:10] anyway, a faster boot would be nice but, i'm more concerned with the boot hang [00:10] so it really gets stuck there, it doesn't just 'take long'? [00:11] in fact, if i don't flip tty's within a minute, it won't let me do it later [00:11] is the bios all updated? [00:11] keyboard freezes, [00:11] yes [00:12] in fact, i almost wish i hadn't updated it. probably worked better before [00:12] ACPI warnings or errors? [00:12] probably [00:12] you can probably downgrade the bios if needed. [00:13] for reference, it's a gigabyte 990 fxa, um3 [00:13] (dont buy this) [00:13] you'll need to review (and optionally share with us) the full systemd journal [00:13] ...for the latest boot (-b) [00:14] i have been reviewing the boot journal yes [00:14] solved. [00:14] i found that gnome desktop critical error, and the mdadm library missing [00:15] you mean gnome-*shell*, right? [00:15] would you care to help me cheat and craft a command to share this journal? [00:15] journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [00:15] i.... don't know what i mean anymore :/ [00:16] https://termbin.com/xz96 [00:16] i recommend asprin with this [00:20] Gallomimia: so your board is HW Rev 3.0? [00:20] that sounds familiar yes [00:21] i've fought with that puppy a lot [00:21] there are 6 different HW rev's, using different BIOSes, so you'd better be sure there. [00:22] it usually says on the mainboard [00:22] cool story. one of the drives in my raid failed, and it offered to reset all BIOS settings to default, with no option to say no. i neglected to write down all the proper settings so it left me unable to boot for quite a long time. === grimguy is now known as zenguy [00:27] Gallomimia: does df -h | grep ^/dev | grep -v ^/dev/loop report that you have spare space everywhere? [00:28] it does [00:28] checked that already. it was suggested in a google search for the original error message [00:28] sdc1 is an ext3 file system, you may want to redo this as ext4 or upgrade it. [00:29] it's /boot [00:29] everything except that is encrypted [00:31] "Directory /home to mount over is not empty" [00:31] unexpected [00:32] make sure /mnt/ is empty, then mount --bind / /mnt then clear out /mnt/home/ then umount /mnt [00:32] hm. you're smart with linux AND a mindreader? [00:32] neither sadly [00:33] * uRock sees tomreyn denying skillz [00:33] whoa. what's all this in here! [00:34] just an old .dbus folder [00:35] done [00:36] Is kali better than ubuntu [00:36] no [00:36] For hacking [00:36] strongly depends upon what you're doing. [00:36] well, perhaps [00:36] Legally [00:36] deopends on who's behind the keyboard [00:37] you can install everything that's in Kali in ubuntu === Goop_ is now known as Goop [00:37] okay i need a crash course through linux pls [00:37] Unix system i no [00:38] lmao, depends on what you want. We don't help people crack here [00:38] Different branches from linux unix kernel [00:38] yeah that's good for a laugh. a human who knows a unix system [00:39] Yeah im best friends with one [00:39] His name is kernel [00:39] kernel sa [00:39] kernel Sanders? [00:40] Yaaaaasss [00:40] O my god i didnt even finish typing it [00:41] Admittedly, I use Kali when I'm misbehaving, but only due to the fact that the script kiddie app I use is more up to date in Kali [00:41] Gallomimia: did you see the discord snap issues? i think there's also an apt repo from discord, might be a better choice. [00:41] we're about to get kicked for being off topic, though [00:42] i saw some of them tomreyn which is why i use a different snap. if there's an apt repo i will prefer that [00:43] Gallomimia: its spamming your log, probably still now (journalctl -f to follow the log) [00:43] uRock: yay scriptkiddies [00:44] i have removed a few snaps while we were talking [00:44] * uRock is addicted to wifite [00:45] * hackatheos_ has to love that wifite [00:45] Gallomimia: i can't seem to spot where it gets stuck though, it may be helpful if you'll reboot and have the keyboard get stuck, then try to recover it and reboot gracefully or use magic !sysrq [00:48] recovering it is quite un-possible [00:48] !sysrq | Gallomimia: even with this [00:48] Gallomimia: even with this: In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, R, E, I, S, U and B. For an explanation, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key [00:48] the only thing i've ever been able to get it to do after it freezes is go into emergency mod [00:48] yes that [00:48] it spams out a list of commands, but none of them work [00:49] what spits out a list of commands which don't work? [00:49] hand mashing [00:49] honestly [00:49] what's emergency mode,do you mean reboot to !recovery? [00:50] no it just gives that list of commands. none of which seem to work [00:50] what is "it"? [00:50] if i knew that.... [00:51] it shows when i get frustrated and mash the keyboard, after the freeze/hang [00:51] when does your system "spam out [this] list of commands"? [00:51] i see [00:51] so it still accepts input there [00:51] not exactly [00:52] aside from repeating the menu, it behaves as if the keyboard is disconnected [00:52] maybe you can recreate this situation and take a screen shot the classic way [00:52] no lights show, no locks go on [00:52] "classic" way [00:52] using a smartphone or camera [00:52] more like, the new way for stupid-phone thumb gluers [00:53] the idea with making the system stuck there is that you can then (assuming you can reboot gracefully, with synching and unmounting file systems) review journalctl -b -1 after you rebooted and see where it got stuck. [00:54] i bet that command would show something right now [00:54] and no. i can't reboot gracefully [00:54] I use a phone because iys more portable https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/NhzkeZNh/iUseAphone.png [00:56] other than that this log actually doesn't look bad at all. [00:56] well.... that's good. i'm inclined to leave it [00:57] i actually just managed to get it to boot from the encrypted LV today. and i don't know why [00:57] my unencrypted drive stopped working somehow, somewhy [00:59] How can i get invited to linux [00:59] which kind of troll is this?! [01:00] Gallomimia: you meantioned this before, right? just making sure: md: kicking non-fresh sdb3 from array! [01:00] we touched on it yes. that drive is some kind of hoopla [01:01] well, make sure cat /proc/mdstat seems sound [01:01] smart reports show some unclear but bad things. i think the r/w head is borked [01:01] should have no underscores in square brackets [01:02] it shows [_UU] [01:02] which is normal these days [01:04] i should really buy some new drives. maybe a pair of 4's and transfer to a raid 1 [01:20] what the smeg does this mean? snd_hda_codec_hdmi hdaudioC2D0: HDMI: invalid ELD data byte 8 [01:20] google reports it makes so [01:20] you broke it [01:20] sound not work but [01:20] my sound does work. i don't often play thru the display port or hdmi output. === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:21] however, i do sometimes get a weird scratchy echo on the analog output [01:22] This is why windows exists [01:23] stop your trolling [01:23] https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/xs8QpZeZ/cautionary.png [01:24] Troll on you. [01:24] No ubuntu is better in many aspects than windows [01:25] !discuss [01:25] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [01:25] Oh thanks [01:25] Sorry ive been on the wrong chan [01:25] !xorg [01:25] X.Org is an implementation of the X Windows System, and is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart it on an Ubuntu system, type 'sudo service lightdm restart'. To fix screen resolution or other X.Org problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution . See also !xorgconf [01:26] never had any problems with that. [01:34] have i ever === saint__ is now known as saint_ [02:07] hello, I recently purchased a laptop, and accidentally installed ubuntu fully, when I was planning to have duel boot. I see the windows boot manager there, is there any way to recover windows? [02:21] you might try to recover the partition, but it's much more likely that ubuntu overwrote everything === saint__ is now known as saint_ [02:22] think about it.... if windows was installed at the start of the disk, with blank space after, then ubuntu gets installed, at the start of the disk, with blank space after [02:22] it's gone mate. [02:23] naribia google the machine name/model along with key combo for a 1 time boot menu. if the machine has that option, if windows is still on the machine ou will be able to boot in to it [02:23] naribia timed out some minutes ago [02:23] whoops. k [02:23] i think you're better off just looking at the Disks program, and seeing if there's any windows partitions there [02:24] ah. it's a shame we have to hide leave/joins in this channel to barely use it [02:24] expsensive mistake for sure [02:24] not so bad. acquire a reinstallation media for windows. something you should have anyway [02:25] you have no business owning a computer if you don't have a bootable rescue disk. i'm aware they stopped providing them, but the requirement stands [02:37] Question: So it seems like my laptop is configured so that if the screen is down and physical external screen is connected it automatically goes into sleep mode. How can I turn that off? [02:41] Answer: HandleLidSwitch=ignore in /etc/systemd/logind.conf [02:41] Thank you so much [02:42] Response to indication of gratitude: You're welcome. [02:42] Using a virtual screen. Every time I unplug the physical screen it was going it to sleep mode. Took me a moment to figure out what was happening. [02:42] Well virtual video driver [02:45] This setting will entirely disable automatic suspend when closing the lid, though, not just if there's an external monitor connected. I don't know of a better way which handles these cases seperately. [02:45] You can still suspend from the menu, though. [02:46] (Alt + Power off icon) [02:46] This will be running some server type services so I intend on keeping it always on. [02:47] Ah so it's actually desirable this way. [02:47] Correct. [02:47] anyone have experience with linux traffic control (tc) and the police action? === akem__ is now known as akem [03:37] the... WHAT? [03:41] I want to ask about the Realtek RTL8723BE wireless card. I have an HP 455 probook. (Windows sees 20 wifi signal, ubuntu 18.04 barely sees my signal next to it from my phone and is easily disconnected.) The question is, will the newer Ubuntu be better? [03:42] tripleb, how did you install that RTL8723BE driver? [03:42] OerHeks: i didnt. It is the original. [03:42] it is known for giving troubles under linux. [03:42] antenna thingy [03:42] https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2404508 [03:43] remove the driver, sudo modprobe -r rtl8723be [03:43] Oh thanks. Will Klik. [03:43] and add again, with the right antenna config : sudo modprobe -v rtl8723be ant_sel=2 [03:43] Gotcha [03:44] Thank you. [03:44] Oerheks [03:44] this post gives an example howto make it permanent [03:44] https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2404508&page=2&p=13811536#post13811536 [04:01] The virtual video card to screen is not working out. I cannot get Ubuntu to react properly to it. It keeps switching it off. Is there a way to stop this from happening or to just remove it so linux does not detect it? Even when it is off it still is causing funky stuff to happen. [04:02] Might also be the internal laptop screen. Not sure [04:34] I am actually having issues with the virtual screen and the internal laptop screen. I need to permanently disable the internal laptop screen. [05:27] Hey there, I've got an interesting challenge: is there a way to tell if a 12.04 LTS system was upgraded to 14.04 LTS? Are any files/artefacts/configs left behind which would indicate that, once the upgrade process was completed successfully? === vicamo_ is now known as vicamo [05:29] what happens when you type lsb_release -a [05:29] saaam: are you paying for ESM support? [05:30] Hello. [05:30] Oh yeah I totally read his question wrong. [05:30] These aren't my systems; as part of a DD exercise, once of the things I just got asked was if I could tell whether an existing Ubuntu 14.04 LTS system was upgraded from 12.04 LTS, and if so, when. The end client is looking at ESM. [05:30] Er, one of the things, even. [05:31] saaam: we dont support neither 12.04 or 14.04 but feel free to discuss things at #ubuntu-discuss [05:32] This isn't about support. [05:32] LOL that is why he sent you to "-discuss" [05:32] So let's say, is there a way to, on an Ubuntu 16.04 LTS system, which is still under support, is there a way to tell if it's a "native install", or been upgraded from 14.04 LTS before that one expired? :D [05:33] This room is basically #ubuntu-support [05:33] Yeah, fair enough. [05:34] Maybe take a peek in the /etc/apt source folders for remanents.. IDK just guessing. [05:34] Symlink question. I created a soft symlink in ~/Desktop/ to an ods (spreadsheet) file elsewhere. When I double-click the symlink's icon in Nautilus, it opens the file in the appropriate program. However, when I double-click the symlink icon on the Desktop, itself, it says "Command not found." What might be stopping it from working on the desktop? [05:34] Should probably mention that I'm on Ubuntu 19.04. [05:35] TheFatherMind: That's probably the one. I mean, realistically, for *any* version, I should just use a find with ctime params to check for files older than a few years. [05:41] saaam, "grep cd /etc/apt/sources.list" will pop out the cdrom entry for the original install [05:42] rfm: Nice, thank you. That's the one, I think. Since I can SaltStack that one and figure out what percentage of the fleet went through lifetime upgrades, versus clean installs. [05:43] It's amusing to get a six-figure bill from Canonical, and the first digit isn't a 1. [05:43] I cannot believe I got so close on a random guess. (: [05:44] * TheFatherMind pats himself on the back... (and admires rfm for knowing) [05:44] plz focus on support here guys [06:03] hey, I know it's not what most people are into, but I have a question regarding Ubuntu on windows subsystem for linux [06:04] Baikonur: yes? i also use the WSL [06:04] my apt upgrade is keeping back ubuntu-wsl and wslu packages, is it safe for me to update them manually, they're not massive meta-packages that are going to change my release version to newer or something? [06:10] what do you mean keeping back [06:11] i am running update and upgrade quickly to see what messages i get [06:18] when I run apt-get upgrade, it says "the following packages have been kept back:" [06:18] and the next line "ubuntu-wsl wslu" [06:23] Baikonur: try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [06:24] Baikonur: generally there is a reason that packages are kept back, However, opne can force the upgrade with ' sudo apt full-upgrade '. Ya might ask >> [06:25] !wsl | Baikonur [06:25] Baikonur: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide [06:27] when I run upgrade [06:27] i don't see any held back [06:27] is this your first installation of ubuntu on wsl or is this after doing an upgrade [06:28] it's a fairly new installation, couple of days [06:29] EriC^^: I wan't to keep it on the LTS version, wouldn't a dist-upgrade update my release version past that? [06:30] !dist-upgrade | Baikonur [06:30] Baikonur: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention. [06:31] Baikonur: it seems like i don't have wslu installed. According to apt it is a "collection of utilities for the Windows 10 Linux Subsystem" but it does not have "[installed]" next to it, meaning i don't have it installed [06:31] oh, ok [06:31] Baikonur: having said that, my ubuntu wsl console works [06:31] well I'll do a dist-upgrade then [06:31] so did you install wslu manually? [06:31] no [06:31] maybe it came with something else, like build-essential or something [06:32] certainly it seems like i don't have it installed; if i run install and cancel it i can see for example i don't have some of the dependencies either, like "libpulsedsp" [06:33] incidentally, i do in fact have build-essential installed [06:33] ok dist-upgrade did upgrade them just fine [06:33] thanks [06:34] Baikonur: btw, a few things you should keep in mind about WSL is that some things can't be done, for example sshuttle won't work like it will on "the real" ubuntu [06:34] Baikonur: glad it worked [06:34] however, for perl/python/etc WSL is great for me [06:35] and you can easily edit anything in the windows filesystem through /mnt/c/ [06:36] if you have network drives you need to mount them manually though through a folder, for example /mnt/shared_drive/ [06:36] yeah I've been using it for python and bash scripting === GauravButola_ is now known as GauravButola [07:44] greetings, what is the top left menu called on all gui apps that contains the "more actions>special window settings? [07:45] isomari: activities corner you mean? [07:46] the one with the close/maximise/minimise etc options ? [07:50] Hi everyone. Where can I change dkms flags? IDK why but it seems someone has combined incompatible flags (-mindirect-branch and -fcf-protection) breaking build of essential modules like bcmwl. [07:51] lotuspsychje: Sounds right. thanks [07:52] KOLANICH: can you tell us the whole story please, ubuntu version and what are you doign with broadcom driver? pastebin your apt output [07:56] lotuspsychje: 1. I have accidentially nuked /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu. 2. I have decided that if I have to reinstall all the packages I should update to eoan simultaneously. 3. I have managed get apt working (I had an iso) so I have reinstalled the most of packages. But some essential ones are broken, like systemd, systemd-networkd. So now I have no network on pc and am writing from a phone. [07:56] KOLANICH: 19.10 support, please join in #ubuntu+1 [07:59] I need to run xrandr to disable a ghost screen. Where is the best place to put that so it runs just after the graphical interface initializes? I have tried putting it in a number of places but nothing seems to work. === Teemo is now known as rory [08:09] hi all, i use ubuntu 18.04 lts and i5 8400, with integreted video, and i have freezing lspci | grep -E «VGA|3D» 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 3e92, how to fix? [08:10] may not have installed drivers from the video card? [08:12] TheFatherMind: ~/.xsession should work [08:13] TheFatherMind: ~/.xsessionrc i mean [08:15] fobo7: the intel drivers are installed by default, so you should have those. is your bios up to date? [08:16] lspci | grep -E «VGA|3D» mast show UHD 630? [08:16] must* [08:18] fobo7: i'm not sure what it should show [08:20] on another pc shows Intel HD 610 and all warks [08:20] need update bios? [08:20] it's one thing i would check [08:21] PRIME B360M-A BIOS 2602, new release 2019/08/27 [08:22] people fix so GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash i915.alpha_support=1" on 17.01 [08:28] Hey, im having problems with pairing on my 1000XM3 sony bluetooth headphones. I can pair them, but let's say i turn them off and back on again they "connect" to my machine - it appears connected in the bluetooth panel but the audio source has not changed [08:28] Sorry i meant output. Furthermore, when I do change the audio output nothing happens. When i click test there are no speakers to click or anything [08:29] The only way to fix it is to put it in pairing mode again and manually disconnect and connect [08:29] a bit annoying UX... === vicamo_ is now known as vicamo [09:30] it's a modded 18.04 from a VPS provider running on Xen, running apt update;apt full-upgrade; i got this, should i be worried? http://paste.debian.net/plain/1102914 [09:31] (ah, grub-common was already installed, nvm the last line) [09:47] Hi there. Any ideas how I could revive an unresponsive USB cable mouse without rebooting? I have tried reattaching it (to various USB ports). I have tried said mouse on another computer and it works there. I have also attached a different mouse, which also does not move. The USB port is powered, as the DPI indicator on the mouse is lit and responds to changes in setting. [09:48] My keyboard (that Im typing on right now) is also attached to USB, so the USB stack isnt totally broken. [09:50] just seems like mice are broken [09:50] Hehe. Yeah, I sure would be allot hapier if modern websites wouldnt rely on mice. ;-) [09:51] does dmesg have anything exciting when you plug in a mouse [09:51] and does xev show anything when you move a mouse around [09:51] IsoLinCHiP, probably possible and the answer is in /sys somewhere but.. sec [09:52] Maybe related or unrelated, I cant seem to switch the VT with Ctrl+Alt+FX . But Im not even sure that still works in Ubuntu 18 [09:52] do you see any events if you try sudo evemu-record on the mouse device? (does evemu-record _see_ the mouse device?) [09:52] ctrl+alt+fx should absolutely work in ubuntu 18.xx [09:52] * IsoLinCHiP ist checking [09:53] but only for 3-6? [09:53] I get a gdm screen on tty1, my session on tty2, a text login on tty3 [09:53] ah [09:54] (I'm on 19.04, but I think GUI sessions were moved from tty7 to tty1&2 several years ago) [09:54] Nothign suspicious in dmesg. I get a disconnect and a reconnect message. I recognised the vendor correctly [09:54] xev does not produce events, as the mouse doesnt move [09:55] if you don't have evemu-record installed, you can try sudo cat /dev/input/mice [09:55] mgedmin: I dont seem to have a binary named evemu-record [09:55] see if you get any garbage characters when you move the mouse [09:56] roger [09:56] that's a good one [09:56] this will at least narrow down if the problem is on the hardware/kernel level, or somewhere up the stack [09:56] i'd maybe do hexdump though [09:56] mgedmin: Yes, /dev/input/mice produces output [09:56] yeah, but I 'm not sure if that does any buffering [09:57] So I guess X is confused? [09:57] are you using Xorg or Wayland? [09:57] Whew, good question. My guess would be Xorg, unless Wayland became standard in Ubuntu 18? [09:57] BTW gdm itself uses wayland even if your main session is Xorg, so you may want to ctrl+alt+f1 and test if the mouse works there [09:58] if in doubt you can 'echo $WAYLAND_DISPLAY' in a terminal; if it's blank then you're on Xorg [09:58] and if you're using the defaults then you're definitely on Xorg [09:59] so, xorg: if you run xinput, do you see anything about the mouse? [09:59] (I'm on wayland so I can't check what the output is expected to look like, normally -- it's all virtual pointer devices for me) [10:00] does the problem go away if you restart X (i.e. log out and log in again)? [10:00] (or do you wish to debug this without interrupting your user session?) [10:01] While not defaults - running i3, I am rather certain its on Xorg. Got now wayland processes [10:01] some X client might have grabbed the mouse and gotten stuck, eating all the events [10:01] I remember using x2x a while back to control a remote computer with my local keyboard+mouse: if the network dropped I couldn't move the mouse or use the keyboard and it was no fun at all [10:01] Yes, the mouse is registered to virtual core pointer [10:02] so I know that it's possible for an X11 client to do this, which would also remove the events from xev [10:02] Sneaky ;-D [10:02] which is why it would be interesting to see if restarting X (and therefore killing all clients) would affect things [10:02] (or it could be an Xorg driver bug getting into some weird state where a restart might also fix things) [10:03] Ok, the most likely candidate is my running virtualbox, but it also isnt moving the mouse [10:03] then there are things like multiple pointer support (where xinput would have shown the device not attached to the core pointer) [10:03] ah! what's the key to ask virtualbox to release mouse/keyboard grabs? ctrl+alt? right ctrl? [10:04] but if vbox is itself stuck it might ignore the key and just not do anything [10:04] can you close virtualbox and see what happens? [10:04] Mine is Right ctrl, Ive allready fiddled with that [10:04] there's a key that tells Xorg to break mouse grabs, which helps when dealing with buggy clients, but also completely breaks screen locking, so it's disabled by default [10:05] I would prefer to avoid shutting X or virtualbox down. I am also not confident suspending the VM would work. [10:05] I think to enable it you have to edit xorg.conf and restart X, so it's not useful [10:06] (I don't ever recall suspending VMs not working for me, but I haven't used GUI VMs in a long time) [10:07] k, next there's the Xorg accessibility feature mousekeys where you should be able to move the pointer with your keyboard [10:07] I don't remember how you turn it on, and I wonder if the mouse grab (if there is one) would also intercept these synthetic mouse movements... [10:07] Well, I have a rather odd VM configuration ;-) (better not get into that) [10:08] any other ideas? 'cuz I'm running out [10:09] Using the keyboard to move the mouse would at least help me shut down my running session cleanly. Any ideas how to enable that? [10:11] Nvm, found it [10:11] Shift Num, after invoking setxkbmap [10:12] Ok, that part works, strangely enough [10:12] Wow, it even ignores VirtualBox desire to grab all keystrokes [10:13] So I can even use it on the VM window [10:13] God its gonna take so long to setup all my tmux sessions again the way I want them -.- [10:34] Well, I was lucky this time, I was able to resume the VM. So I didnt lose too much state. Restarting the X session fixed the issue. thanks for your time, mgedmin [10:35] huh, so closing virtualbox didn't fix it, but restarting X did? [10:35] Though I really would have like to avoid shutting down everything that was outside the VM [10:35] that doesn't sound like a stuck grab then ... [10:36] Hmm, Im not even sure I tryed moving the mouse after I had closed VB, tbh [10:36] ah, that's a shame [10:46] https://pastebin.com/raw/ACPaw4zi hey i just bought some chinese intelimouse microsoft , and when i plug it on my ubuntu thinkpad it does not work, on windows its ok [11:01] Hmm, looks like today is mouse day ;-D [11:02] znull: Is your trackpad/trackpoint still working? [11:03] IsoLinCHiP, yes [11:03] znull: Does the output of 'xinput' show the mouse under the text "Virtual core pointer"? [11:03] IsoLinCHiP, it seems only on linux it does not work [11:04] IsoLinCHiP, https://pastebin.com/raw/B8dLCkFf [11:04] ⎜ ↳ USB Gaming mouse Љ id=9 [slave pointer (2)] [11:04] weird name [11:04] Well, looks good [11:05] on windows its saying USB Gaming mouse Љ and after few seconds it turns on Intellimouse 3.0 [11:05] IsoLinCHiP, expect it does not work [11:05] Well, I wouldnt think that is the problem. [11:06] Can you check if running 'sudo cat /dev/input/mice' produces some sort of output on the terminal (if it does it will be unreadable, thats fine) [11:06] IsoLinCHiP, trackpoint,trackpad works fine.. and the mouse i tried plugging on other usb ports.. same does not work ( it turns red but the pointer is not moving ) [11:06] IsoLinCHiP, no output [11:07] oh [11:07] any errors in dmesg | tail? [11:07] hmm, well, at that point we can rule out it being the same problem I just had [11:07] IsoLinCHiP, it produce some sort of output when i play with my trackpoint, with mouse nothing [11:07] cat /dev/input/mice [11:07] ▒�(�(� [11:07] ((�(�((�((( [11:08] Yeah, as I said, its just about if it produces any output at all, not what [11:08] mgedmin, https://pastebin.com/raw/n8cF0Syv no [11:09] IsoLinCHiP, is there any chance to force the mouse to use other mouse module ? since it works on windows [11:09] that looks like it should be working [11:09] Im sorry, I am out of ideas. My best guess is that the "Љ" character in the device name might be causing an issue, but wouldnt have any idea how to resolve it [11:10] maybe inspecting the actual events with evemu-record (instead of staring at the binary bytes in /dev/input/mice) would help? [11:11] or looking at the udev properties assigned to this device? [11:11] I'm not really qualified to debug this [11:15] i'm trying to get ubuntu 18.04 to authenticate against active directory via openldap + pam. i have followed this tutorial: https://www.server-world.info/en/note?os=Ubuntu_18.04&p=openldap&f=3 but can't seem to get it to work. [11:15] when i attempt to login via a console i observe this from watching journald: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/C3r3VqdKjq/ [11:16] if anyone has any experience with pam_ldap i would greatly appreciate any help or advice they could provide === SysGhost is now known as hugs === hugs is now known as SysGhost [11:29] Hello, what is the easiest way to install the WSL version of Ubuntu on Windows Server if Windows Store is not available on Windows Server? [11:31] The fact that the device name changes when you plug it in to windows seems suspicious to me too. Maybe its just not linux compatible :-( [11:33] !wsl | PrzemekF-wcht [11:33] PrzemekF-wcht: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide [11:33] znull: try researching the web for any other linux users of your mouse. Is it some funky mouse that has extra keypad buttons or something like that? [11:35] IsoLinCHiP, http://tiny.cc/skdidz [11:37]