/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/09/28/#ubuntu-discuss.txt

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lotuspsychjegood morning to all02:58
immugood morning05:05
immuhi ducasse05:14
immugoodmorning every one05:21
EoflaOEGood morning immu, how is your day?05:21
immui am sick, body pain and fever05:21
immuu05:21
EoflaOEAll fine.05:22
immui dropped back from 19.10 to 19.04 bakc05:22
EoflaOEBecause it has too many bugs? Or because it lags?05:22
immuissues05:24
EoflaOELike what?05:26
immuit would freeze, i played a game bubble, left myt workstation and saw it go full screen and free05:27
immui could move the mouse but couldn't get back to desktop05:27
immuissues with steam05:27
immulike i386 packages wont install, nvidia driver issue05:27
EoflaOEOK.05:28
immuu on?05:29
EoflaOEMe on? What do you mean? Clarify more05:29
immuwhich version of ubuntu you are running on05:33
ducassegood morning06:19
immu19.10 has steam issues06:24
immuso upgrade with caution if you play games on it06:45
ducassehi immu06:48
BluesKajHowdy folks11:29
lotuspsychjetomreyn: nutcase night again18:39
jinkAlways.18:47
lotuspsychjehey jink18:47
jinkOla.18:47
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tomreynlotuspsychje: hehe, oh yes19:10
lotuspsychjetomreyn: what kernel did you say 18.04 hwe edge was again?19:10
lotuspsychjetomreyn: got a flicker bug customer coming tomorrow19:10
tomreynlotuspsychje: 5.0 by default, but proposed has 5.3 for it19:13
lotuspsychjeoh19:13
tomreynporbably not customer ready19:14
tomreynthough i'm running it since yesterday and it works fine19:14
lotuspsychjeill do the cstate workaround then19:14
lotuspsychjeand wait for next HWE kernel version best?19:15
tomreynlotuspsychje: i can't really make this decision. ;)  i guess the cstate workaround has side effects? if so, maybe try the 5.3 in proposed on an affected test system. maybe look for newer bios updates, too.19:18
lotuspsychjetomreyn: i tested the bios updates dont influence this bug19:18
lotuspsychjetomreyn: i didnt notice much power sucking on the cstate option19:19
lotuspsychjeand i know kernel 5.2 abd 5.3 fixes this bug too19:19
tomreynlotuspsychje: so the choice you need to make is between having users set a kernel parameter (which they will likely not think of removing later when they could and should), rebuilding the kernel regularly to incorporate this changed kernel parameter by default (a relevant maintenance overhead, and need to establish a deplyoment mechanism / apt repository for customers to use), providing instructions for users to use the -hwe-edge kernel19:23
tomreynfrom '-proposed' until it migrates to '-updates' and later becomes available as -hwe19:23
tomreynyou can please this in e.g. /etc/apt/preferences.d/proposed-updates : //termbin.com/3n1x19:24
tomreynyou can *place* this in e.g. /etc/apt/preferences.d/proposed-updates : https://termbin.com/3n1x19:24
lotuspsychjetomreyn: ill have to think this over a bit, cause this same model has that intel wifi bug too, i fixxed with installing oem sp1 kernel19:26
lotuspsychjetomreyn: so i think ill first try to workaround cstate, and see if his wifi still works on 5.0 HWE19:27
tomreyngood luck19:28
lotuspsychjetnx19:28

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