[14:01] <dzho> well, C t
[14:01] <dzho> shifted control in gnome-terminal at least opens a new tab :O
[14:02] <dzho> cmaloney: but yeah TIL too
[14:03] <jrwren> damn, installing nodesource nodejs installs python2. https://github.com/nodesource/distributions/blob/master/README.md#debinstall
[14:03] <jrwren> what will we do in 3months? ubuntu won't be the platform for node, I guess.
[14:37] <cmaloney> I'm sure they'll figure it out soon
[14:37] <cmaloney> ish
[21:02] <dzho> how well is Debian and Ubuntu doing towards python2 EOL?
[21:02] <cmaloney> About as well as the 32bit EOL.
[21:03] <dzho> it's something I've been following by proxy on the Fedora/Redhat/CentOS side since folks work at the intersection of that OS family with Sugar Desktop have been trying to get Sugar ported and kept in Fedora
[21:03] <cmaloney> Yeah
[21:03] <dzho> like, I think there's a hard reject planned for any python2 deps for the Fedora release after next.
[21:03] <cmaloney> My estimation is a lot of distros are going to be doing their own security patches for Python2 for a bit
[21:04] <dzho> next version is going to be by extreme exception only or something like that
[21:04] <cmaloney> but without upstream patches it's going to get real old real quick
[21:04] <dzho> (I don't know the lingo)
[21:04] <dzho> yeah
[21:07] <dzho> > Python 2 is no longer installed by default. Python 3 has been updated to 3.6. This is the last LTS release to include Python 2 in main.
[21:07] <dzho> that's the rel notes for bionic
[21:10] <cmaloney> Yeah, so it can be installed if you need it
[21:57] <dzho> I guess I should know better what not-being-in-main means for things with a python dependency