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bryguypghI can't get lightdm to start. Using the radeon driver, tried to install amdgpu drivers but they were terrible so I reverted.00:10
bryguypghNow it segfaults at x startup00:10
bryguypghbut the weird thing is it worked at first after amd uninstall; I think it failed after first reboot00:11
TheFatherMindI like to clone my system with clonezilla before fucking with it.00:11
bryguypghxorg log is unhelpful, it segfaults after RADEON(0) Setitn gscreen physical size00:12
bryguypghthere's another issue though, I can't uninstall libvulkan100:13
Nyleubuntu takes 300+ MB of ram on boot.00:16
NyleThat's no good.00:16
humpledwould you like it to use more?00:17
Nyleno. less00:17
humpleddon't you have enough?00:17
NyleNope. Just 1GB00:17
humpledme too00:17
humpledbut i use xfce desktop00:17
Nyleoh this is a vps00:17
Nyle18 lts00:17
Nylemy desktop is 10 year old core 2 quad and 8gb ddr200:18
humpledreally just console it's 300MB?00:18
NyleWell, it's got nginx, serving up one static site, and php running (barely used)00:18
Bashing-ombryguypgh: Can you boot to the login screen and activate a virtual terminal ( ctl+alt+F2) ?00:18
bryguypghyes00:18
NyleI started with the smallest vps, if in case I need to scale up, I can increase it.00:19
NyleNow I'm trying to move an exim4 server from rackspace to digital ocean00:19
NyleI've got all the configs backed up, user maildirs backed up00:19
NyleGoing from 16 lts to 18 lts while moving email servers00:20
humpledeep00:20
NyleYup.00:20
NyleJust talked to rackspace API and extracted 30 domains in bind9 format00:20
NyleTrying to figure out cloudflare api to I can import them there00:20
bryguypghI tried xinit from there. I get a message about LLVM failing to compile a shader, then a backtrace  (xorg libpthread libc.so radeonsi_dri.so) and Fatal Server Error: Caught signal 600:20
Bashing-ombryguypgh: Great - pastebinplease ' /var/log/gpu-manager.log | nc termbin.com 9999 ; sudo lshw -C display | nc termbin.com 9999 '.00:20
NyleI think 300mg for nginx/one static site, mysql, etc. is not bad.00:21
NyleI see a lot of processes from lxcfs. I wonder what is that00:21
Nylehtop shows a lot of mysql proceses I wonder why00:21
Nyleit's rarely in use. In fact it's only installed there, it's not even in active use.00:22
NyleI was planning on using it late00:22
bryguypghtermbin.com/9e08r termbin.com/htp500:27
Bashing-ombryguypgh: So far looks good - but, "00:31
Bashing-omNumber of connected outputs for /dev/dri/card0: 2". What results when the external display is disconnected ?00:32
Enj0yhello00:32
bryguypghi mean, i have two monitors so thats expected00:32
bryguypghyou want me to disconnect one or both? I tried turning off one earlier an dgot the same results00:33
Enj0yanyone ever heard about a problem with video and audio playback, when using HDMI audio as output ?00:34
Bashing-ombryguypgh: My point is the driver not knowing to drive 2 monitors - reduce to simplest terms. Also anything from ' lsmod | grep amdgpu ' ?00:35
bryguypghnothing in lsmod | grep amdgpu but there was a few boots ago; i did an rmmod and added modprobe.blacklist=amdgpu to /etc/default/grub kernel command line and it hasn't come back00:38
bryguypghI also deleted all the vulkan packages (that's what led me to install amdgpu in the first place)00:39
bryguypghi did manage to remove libvulkan1 after removing kio and its dependencies00:40
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Enj0yI guess no one knows :/00:46
Bashing-ombryguypgh: did you ' sudo apt purge mesa-vulkan-drivers vulkaninfo vulkan-utils ' ?00:47
bryguypgh54i did apt-get remove on them00:47
bryguypgh54should I reinstall then purge perhaps?00:49
Bashing-ombryguypgh54: Let's "look" at what autoremove reveals - ' sudo apt -s --purge autoremove '. where 's' is to (s)imulate but do not do.00:51
bryguypgh54000:52
Bashing-ombray90820: Away for a spell - I will return in about 30 minutes.01:08
bray90820Wrong ping but ok01:11
tomreynlooks like bryguypgh54 timed out there.01:13
tomreynEnj0y: it's so unspecific, i doubt that's going to work out. :-/01:14
Enj0ytomreyn, I can be more specific then; when using HDMI as my audio output, video and audio are played faster than they should (sounds like chipmunks01:15
tomreynEnj0y: i haven't heard of it, but did you search launchpad, yet?01:16
Enj0yif mid-video I switch to a USB headset, video then plays at normal speed and audio sounds normal, if I switch it back to HDMI then it's sped up again.. it's doing that on every distros, any kernel...01:16
Enj0yI've searched everything :)01:17
tomreynany distro, any (linux) kernel, does it happen with other OS?01:17
Enj0yon Windows it's working fine, it only happens on linux01:17
tomreynmaybe something codec related, do you get any possibly related errors or warnings in a temrinal where you started the playback application, or in another terminal where you run "journalctl -f" before playing it back and keep that open until after playback?01:20
Enj0yI've tried messing around with pulseaudio, grub (arguments), it's doing the same on both Xorg and Wayland01:20
fribHow can I get gcc 4.3 on ubuntu? Is there a repository with it?01:21
tomreynprobably too old01:22
frib4.8 is in the standard repository01:22
tomreynthe oldest you can get is 4.7 on xenial01:22
Enj0ytomreyn, no errors01:23
tomreynwhy do you need such an old version?01:23
tomreynfrib: ^01:23
fribwell I really just want to compile the earliest versions of bitcoin01:23
fribbut it throws all kinds of errors01:23
tomreynEnj0y: hmm, maybe during audio device / monitor initialization when the system starts up (journalctl -b)01:24
Enj0ytomreyn, looking at it right now, is there anything that should be obvious if there was something wrong ?01:26
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tomreynEnj0y: maybe if you just look for errors:   journalctl -n3 -b01:27
tomreynEnj0y: maybe if you just look for errors:   journalctl -p3 -b01:27
tomreynsorry, p, not n01:27
tomreynreplace 3 by 4 to include warnings, too01:28
Enj0yah01:32
Enj0ySep 27 19:03:09 localhost.localdomain gnome-shell[2081]: Failed to CRTC gamma: drmModeCrtcSetGamma on CRTC 47 failed: Permission denied01:32
Enj0ythat's the only thing related to audio/video during boot01:33
tomreynthat's not it, though. so nothing during udev or pulseaudio or display initialization?01:36
Enj0ynope01:36
tomreynthen i'm out of ideas.01:37
Enj0ythanks for trying :) I've been searching for weeks now and I still have no idea01:37
Casper26Casper2601:53
tomreyntomreyn01:54
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doug16kdoes "mounting with ordered data mode" mean full journalling or just metadata journalling?03:05
doug16k"[    4.707018] EXT4-fs (nvme0n1p2): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode. Opts: (null)"03:06
doug16ksounds like full journalling but that would be unexpected, since I don't say anything like that in fstab. does it just do full journal because it is nvme?03:08
doug16kah I see now, confusing terminology. "journal data mode" means data journalling, "data" means metadata journalling, "writeback" means no journalling. right? :(03:11
Exumaim trying to use ubuntu on google cloud, and eth0 is missing, does anyone know what that might be from04:47
immuhi04:48
immuhave i joined the offical ubuntu support channel04:48
immuEriC^^,  hi04:48
EoflaOEimmu: This is official, so ask your question here04:48
immuwas just confirming thanks04:49
immuEoflaOE,04:49
TheFatherMindLOL *that* was his question.04:49
c|onemanPlease fill out the short survey at the end of the call04:50
EoflaOEimmu: You are welcome.04:50
Bashing-omExuma: "eth0" is old identifier - what release is this? try 'ls -l /sys/class/net/' to see the network name.04:51
ExumaBashing-om : ens4 and lo04:52
ExumaI am using google lcoud, and trying to set up a dante socks5 proxy so i can connect to an SFTP server04:52
Exumai cant even get dante to connect, all the tutorials just say "eth0" but i dont ever see that04:52
Exumai see "nic0" in google cloud but its not listed in ifconfig. i also assigned a static IP address04:52
Exumanot connect, i just mean the server wont start because it can't find eth004:53
Bashing-omExuma: As you can see there is no eth0. Point to the corrrect interface name - be aware that "ens4" doesnotalsolookrighttome---mine is "enp0s8".04:57
ExumaBashing-om .. silly me. I just pointed it to "ens4" and the server booted. Thanks, i should have guessed that04:57
Bashing-omExuma: :D - Things change .04:59
ExumaBashing-om ok one more question -- im not sure if you know much about dante but if i run netstat -nlpt it says its listening on "10.x.x.x" should i make it 0.0.0.0 instead?05:00
Exumatcp        0      0 10.142.0.2:1080         0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN      3860/danted05:00
Bashing-omExuma: the 10.x.x.x. is your LAN address. And nope know nothing of setting up Dante.05:02
Exumaok thanks Bashing-om05:02
Bashing-omExuma: Be aware the local loop is no longer 0.0.0.0 .05:03
Exumahaha05:03
ExumaBashing-om ok one last question. I need to open porn 1080 I believe, to allow the socks5 server to be reached from otuside world. how might i do that?05:04
doug16ks/porn/port/   ftfy05:08
eraserpencilWould anyone know how i could manage multiple monitors without  Window Manager?05:12
eraserpencilI mean without a display manager*05:12
Bashing-omExuma: can not advise on opening that port. You will do well to read these docs ->05:13
Bashing-om!netplan | Exuma05:14
ubottuExuma: Netplan is a network configuration abstraction renderer which uses YAML descriptions of a network to work with either a NetworkManager or Systemd-networkd "renderer". More information at https://netplan.io/05:14
eraserpencilI did a minimal install and installed I3wm where I3 starts only after i do a 'startx'. Xrandr --listmonitors does now show my external monitor, only the screen my laptop has.05:14
jeanchrisI'm so glad I just got an old thinkpad and put Ubuntu on it. Reminds me of the olden days when I was a Linux addict...05:28
EoflaOEjeanchris: Any problems?05:29
jeanchrisnot really. sorry is this a support only channel?05:29
EoflaOEjeanchris: This channel is only for support. Discussion go to #ubuntu-discuss.05:30
jeanchrisOk05:30
EriC^^hi immu05:31
natmalSo I'm using Apache 2.4 on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, and I'm looking to override the default settings in mods-available/ssl.conf. I have other settings configured in a custom config in conf-available (which is enabled), but it seems that config is loaded prior to any of the module configs, so the defaults effectively override my overrides.05:53
natmalIs the proper approach to modify ssl.conf directly?05:53
TheFatherMindYeah I think this is easy for you.05:56
TheFatherMindFirst of all.. you are in the wrong room for this question.05:56
lotuspsychjeTheFatherMind: apache is a supported official package in ubuntu05:57
TheFatherMindHowever... the answer is easy.  You symlink them into the available folder right?  They read them in numeric then alphabetical order.  So just make sure it reads the override one after.  Name it something starting with a "t" or greater in the alphabet or rename the symlink for the ssl.conf to 0-ssl.conf05:57
TheFatherMindFair enough.  (:05:57
natmalI felt my question was Ubuntu-specific (Debian-specific?), because it has to do with the specifics of the directory layout and the default configuration. I've been using Gentoo for more than a decade for this sort of thing, which doesn't use conf-*, mods-*, sites-05:59
natmal*, etc.05:59
TheFatherMindnatmal turns out I was wrong about that.  Sorry.05:59
natmalWhat I'm not understanding is why, if my overrides are in conf-*, and the defaults are in mods-*, and apache2.conf loads mods-* before conf-*, that my overrides seem to be getting ignored.06:00
TheFatherMindAnyhow my solution should still work for you.  Give it a shot.06:00
TheFatherMindHmmmm I see what you mean.06:00
natmalRunning "apachectl -t -D DUMP_INCLUDES" is showing my config file loading after the defaults from mods-*.06:01
TheFatherMindI have not used Apache in a while.  try putting your settings in the mods folder before the ssl file and see if that changes it?06:02
TheFatherMindSo there is no settings file for ssl in the conf folder?06:03
TheFatherMindDid you try grepping the folders to be sure?06:03
natmalThere's an ssl.conf (establishes default settings) and an ssl.load (loads the module) in mods-*.06:04
TheFatherMindWell.. if I were you... I would try loading a conf before it to see what happens.  and if that STILL does not have the desired affect I would edit the ssl.conf file and remark out whatever was pissing me off.  But that may not be the correct path to follow.  I will shut up now.06:05
natmalOkay, just me being stupid. I was looking at the wrong VM. :3 Thank you for trying to help.06:09
hans_is the phpmyadmin package covered by the security team?06:10
TheFatherMindLOL I love it when magical mysteries get solved.06:19
TheFatherMindnatmal I have made the same mistake.06:20
MikjaerI am having a weird issue with osd_cat ... i have two apperently similair installs in virtualbox, and in one of them the command works in the other it doesn't, and by not working i mean that it runs, show nothing on the screen, and then waits for a couple of seconds, flashes the screens and exists the command, as would be normal behaviour if it had worked. I've checked for missing dotfiles and packages, ri06:25
Mikjaerght now im reading an strace to try to figure out what is going wrong, does this sound familiar to anybody?06:25
tioxNo gksu in Ubuntu means no numix-folders to modify the Numix theme since it requires gksu. Is there a fake-gksu I can install which uses gvfs backend or some other means using sudo as fake gksu for packages requiring gksu in this instance?06:37
pabedhow should  I reset password ubuntu 18.04 password , when I booted from  ubuntu-18.04.1.0-live-server-amd64.iso it goes for installing an it doesn't appear recovery mode07:33
ducassepabed: you can start it in recovery mode from the grub menu07:39
EriC^pabed: start the normal ubuntu in recovery mode as mentioned, (grub > advanced > recovery) then press on start networking, then "drop to root shell" and once you get a prompt type "passwd <your username>" and set it07:40
pabedducasse, EriC^: thanks alot I had to use SHIF for entering recovery mode07:48
ducassepabed: so now you're all set?07:51
pabedducasse: yes , I took a root access in the grub mode and then I changed the user's password with " passwd user "07:54
ducassepabed: good to hear, have a nice day :)07:55
pabedducasse: you too07:55
hans_18.04's postfixadmin package defaults to $database_type="mysql"; in /usr/share/postfixadmin/config.inc.php , but 18.04 ships with PHP 7.2, and the "mysql" database driver doesn't work with PHP versions above 5.6, the 7.X compatible database driver is called "mysqli" - since 18.04 doesn't use php 5.6, the default should be the php7-compatible "mysqli", not "mysql"07:55
ducassehans_: you should probably report that in a bug, there's little we can do07:56
hans_ducasse, doned, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/postfixadmin/+bug/184577108:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1845771 in postfixadmin (Ubuntu) "postfixadmin php7-incompatible default configuration" [Undecided,New]08:25
cluelesspersoncaffeine, which is supposed to keep ubuntu unlocked, doesn't seem to work at all09:11
hans_cluelessperson, maybe you're just not using enough caffeine?09:15
cluelesspersonhans_, I tried running it 100 times09:19
hans_with 100 beans?09:19
Regori am getting error on mpd +ncmpcpp  setup  .   please help .09:31
Regorusing ubuntu bionic  i am getting error  :**  ncmpcpp .  connection refused  .  No active MPD connection09:32
Regorhttp://paste.debian.net/1103098/09:32
nikolamwhy LAN adapters enp3s0, enp4s0 on "ASUS P5W DH deluxe" motherboard (Marvell Technology Group Ltd. 88E8053 PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 20)), does not come up after standby?09:49
omarekHi, I have no sound in a game(Snakebird) in Ubuntu 18.04 (Bionic Beaver). Sound otherwise works on the system.10:00
bobbyperuhi, does anyone know how to config ubuntu server networking when running on macos virtualbox?  im trying to get the ubuntu to connect to the internet, and the macos to connect to the ubuntu on a fixed ip, but cant get it to work.10:00
omarekldd Snakebird.x86 doesn't list any missing libraries, although I had to install a couple :i386 packages to make it work.10:00
exportbobbyperu: sounds like an issue with the VM software10:00
omarekPavucontrol doesn't show any muted volume bars etc, I checked it out pretty thoroughly.10:01
bobbyperuexport: its probably me to be honest.  i think both virtualbox and ubuntu are working correctly10:01
omarekSnakebird runs with sound in Debian 10, I have two systems in my house.10:01
omarekAny tips restoring the sound in 18.04?10:02
exportbobbyperu: i've seen some super strange stuff happen with virtualbox's network settings usually more with qemu but i'd look into it just to be sure.10:03
hans_omarek, know what game engine it's using?10:03
omarekhans_: quick googling tells me Unity 410:06
omarekThe game doesn't print any error messages or anything suspicious when running.10:08
omarekI'm running the version from Humble Bundle Store, not Steam.10:09
hans_where can i find apache2 mod_php in 18.04?10:12
hans_nvm found it, libapache2-mod-php10:13
omarekHow do I debug when I have no sounds in one application (game) only?10:18
nikolamomarek, I had problem with no sound recognized in Skype the other day. It resolved with restart or shutdown/on . If game is proprietary (closed source), maybe to ask for game producers for manual and/or sound settings, or reboot10:25
nikolambobbyperu, As I understand this is question for #vbox channel. As I understand your host os os MacOS and guest is Ubunut, so it's more Host/VBox related.10:27
nikolamIncidently, I use Ubuntu as host OS and ubuntu server as guest OS now, I made networking by giving to it 2 virtual NIC, one to get internet over NAT and another to use bridged networking and then assigned fixed IP in local LAN range during ubuntu install and it works.10:28
omarekI just solved it.10:38
omarekTo fix sound in Snakebird, I also had to install libpulse0:i38610:38
omarekThere was no error message or any hint that it might be needed other than 1) Linux typically uses pulseaudio these days 2) the game is 32bit.10:39
BluesKajHowdy folks11:29
parak0vskylook friends11:30
parak0vskyam using this method in my setup to do what needs to be done, but something in the system keep reverting control state back, am looking for a permanent solution http://xahlee.info/linux/linux_capslock_do_home_key.html11:31
irgendwer4711hi, at linux boot cryptswap asks for a password, how to avoid that?11:43
ioriairgendwer4711, do you have home folder encrypted ?11:47
irgendwer4711ioria: yes, ext4, but its another disk11:47
ioriairgendwer4711, 16.04 ?11:48
irgendwer4711no, 19.04. I had this before working on my other computer.11:48
ioriairgendwer4711, mmm,  try sudo apt install --reinstall ecryptfs-utils    and  sudo update-grub ... see if it fixes it11:48
irgendwer4711its not ecryptfs11:48
ioriaand what ?11:49
irgendwer4711ext411:49
ioriaext4 is a fs11:49
irgendwer4711yes and it has encryption11:49
irgendwer4711more faster then ecryptfs, I had on my old computer11:50
ioriairgendwer4711, i lost something ....  what kind of encryption (i mean what package) are you using ?11:51
irgendwer4711fscrypt11:51
ioriairgendwer4711,  ok, try install --reinstall that  and run sudo update-grub11:51
irgendwer4711are you sure, thats related?? cryptswap is something with devicemapper11:52
ioriairgendwer4711,  https://askubuntu.com/questions/1010891/system-keeps-asking-for-cryptswap-password11:53
irgendwer4711thats not related11:53
ioriaok11:54
irgendwer4711not this my home11:54
irgendwer4711but surprisely that ecryptfs-utils is install.11:54
irgendwer4711*ed11:54
irgendwer4711should be a mistake, I transferred package list from old computer11:55
irgendwer4711I rebuild grub and initrd, so I do a check now...12:01
irgendwer4711ioria: didnt help :-(12:05
ioriairgendwer4711,  check sudo blkid  and /etc/crypttab  they should match12:06
irgendwer4711ioria: I already checked12:07
irgendwer4711btw I used cryptswap0 instead of cryptswap1 like on my old computer.12:10
ioriairgendwer4711,  in /etc/crypttab  it's in use the UUID or the /dev/disk/by-id/ link for the swap ?12:10
irgendwer4711uuid12:10
cryogenngCan anyone help me build an installer with a custom kernel? I can't figure the process out at all12:11
ioriairgendwer4711,  you can try with the  /dev/disk/by-id/ link12:11
irgendwer4711cryogenng: what is an installer for a kernel?12:11
cryogenngirgendwer4711: an ubuntu installer, with a kernel built from source I've modified12:12
irgendwer4711ioria: I think there is something other wrong. cryptswap should generate its own key12:13
irgendwer4711cryogenng: Ubuntuo has already tools for that12:14
cryogenngirgendwer4711: can you please point me in the right direction?12:14
irgendwer4711cryogenng: make bindeb-pkg. and there is a parameter too, for not building a source package12:15
irgendwer4711oh wait bindeb-pkg is alreay without source12:16
irgendwer4711cryogenng: or you could go the older way with make-kpkg12:18
irgendwer4711both will give you a deb package12:18
cryogenngirgendwer4711: I'm sorry, I might not be understanding, but how does that help me?  I have a .deb for the kernel already, but what I don't know how to do it install (from an iso) with that kernel - essentially the problem is that my hardware requires a change in the kernel to see the disk controller12:18
irgendwer4711ahh, a rescue mission12:19
irgendwer4711boot with CD or net. copy debs on the target disk, make a chroot and install.12:19
irgendwer4711why dont you have a distro kernel left?12:20
cryogenngto be clear, the system is blank at the moment, I want to put ubuntu on it from scratch12:20
irgendwer4711then you would like to use debootstrap12:22
cryogenngthat looks indeed like what i need, so I can do something like install a base system to a usb or something, install my kernel to that system, and then debootstrap from there to the hard disk once it's recognised?12:26
irgendwer4711maybe. you can install direct on your disk12:27
irgendwer4711what ever you are trying to do....12:27
jarnosWhy is adding repositories by add-apt-repository so slow currently?13:03
jarnosOh "Error: retrieving gpg key timed out."13:04
jarnosBut it used to work at least in previous LTS release.13:04
eraserpencilHi! How would I go about managing external monitors without a Display Manager?13:05
eraserpencilI'm on a minimal install where i run 'startx' to start I3wm on my laptop. xrandr --listmonitors only detects the screen of my laptop13:06
flogI wrote a script that controls my laptop screen backlight. the problem is that the script writes to a file owned by root. How do I add an exclusion to allow to run the script without sudo?13:28
eraserpencilvisudo13:29
flogI've tried reading up on /etc/sudoers but I cant get it to work.13:29
flogshouldnt <user> ALL=NOPASSWD:/path/to/script just work?13:30
eraserpencilhttps://www.maketecheasier.com/edit-sudoers-file-linux/13:31
al2o3-crflog: username ALL = (root) NOPASSWD: /path/to/your/program13:32
flogal2o3-cr: tried but no change still not allowed to execute without root13:34
eraserpencildid you place your edit at the last line of the file?13:35
flogNot at the very end no, but before #includedir /etc/sudoers.d13:36
al2o3-crflog: yeah, make sure it written after everything else.13:36
al2o3-crsudo uses the last entry13:36
flogDo i need to to tell sudo to re-read the config or something?13:37
eraserpencili dont recall so.13:39
flogHm.13:39
al2o3-crno, there is no need, sudo checks it everytime.13:39
eraserpencilyou're sure it's the last line of your visudo file?13:39
flogNow it is at the bottom.13:40
flogHowever maybe the problem is something else.13:40
flogThe script is owned by root and writes to a file owned by root.13:40
flogCan execute the script now but it semes to fail when writing to the file.13:40
flogdoesnt the sudo privs propagate through the script?13:41
eraserpenciloh I read it wrongly.13:41
flogI've only add what al2o3-cr suggested.13:41
eraserpencilthis script of yours edits a file owned by root?13:42
al2o3-crflog: is your script executable?13:42
flogmy script is executable13:42
flogyes, the script edits a file owned by root13:43
al2o3-crthis should be working then.13:43
al2o3-crhmm....13:43
eraserpencilyou may wanna try adding that file to visudo13:44
bryguypghI'm using the default drivers for my radeon and it only detects one display (mirrored on two screens), how can I make it see the second display properly? Do I need different drivers?13:45
eraserpencilthere's a better way of doing it, but i'm not 100 % certain yet13:46
flogeraserpencil: script still fail13:46
flogon the line that writes to the file13:46
amosbirdhi, when will ubuntu use glibc 2.2913:47
eraserpencilbryguypgh: did you try the Displays program? or you could tell me what xrandr --listmonitors show13:48
bryguypghyes diplays only shows one display. List monitors says monitors 1 (0: +default ...)13:49
bryguypghit worked fine before I uninstalled and reinstalled xorg13:49
bryguypghi had a problem with amdgpu drivers and X wouldn't start so I nuked it and started over13:49
flogeraserpencil: hm already put the script in /usr/local/bin which seems to be in Defaults secure_path already.13:49
flognot sure if that could cause a conflict13:50
deadbitWould you guys recommend using eMacs over VIM?13:50
bryguypghnow it seems to work but just detects one display13:50
deadbitI'm much more familiar with VIM than emacs but i have heard it's making a huge market change for ubuntu scripting.13:50
eraserpencilbryguypgh: thats beyond me. someone with better skills might help13:50
deadbitbryguypgh: what's the problem?13:51
deadbitalso, does anyone in here use emacs?13:51
dbuggerDoes anyone know how to solve problems with artifacts in the screen? https://askubuntu.com/questions/1177226/artifacts-when-returning-from-suspend13:52
eraserpencilflog: It's a bash script? I believe it's the line where it edits the file owned by root that is tripping everything for you13:52
flogeraserpencil: it is a bash script and yes it is failing at that line.13:52
bryguypgh11browser crashed there for a sec in case you replied13:52
bryguypgh11might have missed13:53
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flogeraserpencil: still fail13:54
eraserpencilwould you wanna share the script?13:55
flogSure thing13:55
bryguypgh11it looks like I'm using llvmpipe according to glxinfo13:55
bryguypgh11dont know how to enable radeon13:55
deadbitbryguypgh11: are you trying to invoke the driver for mutli display support?13:57
bryguypgh11yes but also the llvm driver is slow13:57
flogeraserpencil: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/95px6XszVq/13:59
deadbitbryguypgh11: what do you mean by slow?14:00
deadbitI want to better understand what the behaviour is.14:00
bryguypgh11scrolling nad moving windows is choppy, because I appear to have no hardware acceleration14:01
bryguypgh11I disabled the fglrx drivers in the "additional drivers" section a bit ago in an effort to solve the dual monitor issue14:02
bryguypgh11they aren't there to re-enable any more14:02
bryguypgh11I just want whatever the current "blessed" radeon driver is for my card but all the guides say it should be enabled by default14:02
bryguypgh11lsmod doesn't show amdgpu or radeon14:02
bryguypgh11what I don't understand is pretty basic; how does X figure out what driver to use in the first place?14:04
amosbirdhi, how can I decompress a package built with dpkg-deb -Z none  ?14:05
bryguypgh11I used to expect it in an xorg config file years ago but that seems to have been superseded14:06
bryguypgh11(and an X config file before xorg)14:06
eraserpencilflog: would you like to give this a try? https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/37875/how-to-add-a-line-to-a-file-which-has-only-root-write-permission-and-to-continue14:09
deadbitdoes x turn it all over to systemd now14:10
al2o3-crflog: we can try a different way if you like?14:10
flogsure14:10
deadbitbryguypgh11: lspci | grep vga turns up what?14:11
al2o3-crdelete the entry you put in /etc/sudoers14:11
deadbitfind /dev -group video14:11
deadbitglxinfo | grep -i vendor14:11
bryguypgh11VGA compatible controller: AMD INc. Bonaire XTX [Radeon R7 260x/360]14:12
deadbitso it detects it.14:12
bryguypgh11yes14:12
flogal2o3-cr:done14:12
bryguypgh11it sees the card but will only load the llvm renderer, don't know how to get it to load radeon or amdgpu14:13
deadbitbryguypgh11: ls /etc/x11/xorg.conf14:13
al2o3-crflog: sudo chown root:root path/to/your/script.sh14:13
deadbitand grep LoadModule /var/log/Xorg.0.log14:13
bryguypgh11there's no xorg.conf htere14:13
flogal2o3-cr: its already owned by root14:13
bryguypgh11the logs shows a list of several and radeon is the third one14:14
al2o3-crok, then: sudo chmod 4775 path/to/your/script.sh14:14
bryguypgh11in the log there is this: open /dev/dri/card0: no such file or directory14:15
flogal2o3-cr: still wont work.14:15
bryguypgh11falling back to old probe method for modesetting14:15
deadbithuh... so basically we just have to append the correct driver.conf14:16
al2o3-crflog: restart the shell and try again.14:16
flogjust a new terminal should be fine right?14:16
al2o3-crsure14:17
flogScript still fails at editing the file14:17
al2o3-crflog: the file is definitely owned by root?14:17
bryguypgh11going to try reinstalling the radeon driver package14:17
flogboth the script and the file its editing yes14:18
al2o3-crsomething is not right here.14:18
al2o3-crflog: change lines echoing values to; echo val | tee -a /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightnes14:24
flogal2o3-cr: but not intel though :)14:24
al2o3-crno 8) i was test mine :P14:25
floggot to go, but ill try later. Thank for your help.14:25
al2o3-crok np14:25
WinterNightHello. Are Ubuntu still spying? I want install Ubuntu Desktop for my clients. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.html14:33
tomreynWinterNight: calling this "spying" is a bit of an opinion, i'd say. we could discuss this more in #ubuntu-discuss or in private, if you like - it doesn't really fit here.14:46
MannyLNJI am getting ready to install Ubuntu 19.04 on my second drive. I have Windows installed on my first drive and Windows put it's reserved partiton on the second disk. Is there anything I need to look out for?14:50
tomreyndon't overwrite the windowzy stuff if you want to keep it working. ;)14:52
tomreynare you booting in uefi or legacy bios / csm mode?14:52
tomreynmake sure those systems boot the same way.14:52
MannyLNJtomreyn, I wasn't planning on that but I know I have to do manual partitioning because the second drive can't be reformatted. I am using UEFI14:52
tomreynwith uefi, ubuntu will always use the first efi system partition it finds, not what you choose / setup in the installer.14:53
MannyLNJtomreyn, I don't see any partitons marked EFI in disk manager so then I have to assume I am incorrect and am in Legacy Bios mode14:54
tomreynfirst make sure oyu know how windows is installed then, and then install ubuntu the same way14:55
tomreyni think windows can be migrated to uefi booting also somehow, maybe consider that, too. but thats more something for ##windows14:55
MannyLNJtomreyn, /sda1 is one full NTFS partition /sdb1 is showing as  607MB  NTFS partition then sdb2 is a 194MB ExFAT that shows as unknown then /sdb2 is my 406MB Free Space so this leads me to think I am using legacy.14:56
MannyLNJBut I am going to boot into windows and check I will be back14:58
amosbirdHello, any ubuntu docker that has systemd?15:02
amosbirdhttps://hub.docker.com/r/jrei/systemd-ubuntu15:04
tomreynyour question is unclear to me. ubuntu uses systemd, so when you use docker on ubuntu, you use docker with systemd.15:05
amosbirdtomreyn: I mean the ubuntu docker image15:06
amosbirdguest15:06
amosbirdnot host15:06
tomreyni see, i'm not into docker images.15:06
Sven_vBamosbird, it might well be that you have to install systemd your own.15:12
Sven_vBamosbird, you could be the first to publish such a docker image then.15:12
Sven_vBwhat would you use that systemd for, btw? maybe docker has other mechanisms that can do it.15:13
amosbirdfor testing systemd units15:21
mgedminlxd might be easier for that maybe?15:22
mgedmindocker is for application containers, not system containers15:22
TesagkW: GPG Error: http://repo.mongodb.org/apt/ubuntu xenial/mongodb-or/3.4 Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY BC711F9BA15703C615:26
TesagkDoes that mean that it didn't do the initial bit for installing mongodb?15:26
tomreynit means that you did not setup this third party apt repository properly, yet. i.e. you have not imported their repository signing key15:27
TesagkWeird, that was the first command I did.15:28
tomreynTesagk: be sure not to run this on an internet connected system15:33
Tesagkhttps://pastebin.com/ASjMBSfr15:33
TesagkIt's a virtual machine in VMWare, it is connected to the internet through bridging though.15:33
tomreynthe software you'd install from this repository was last updated Thu, 19 Dec 2013 00:41:46 -050015:34
tomreynand obviously i would not want to trust this dsigning key.15:35
tomreynbut we don't rrally support third party repositories here anyways15:35
TesagkThe link I'm using doesn15:36
Tesagk't15:36
Tesagkseem to have a date, which is problematic.15:36
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mmkumrI have already installed gtk 3.0 but whenever I am running make command it is showing error "termite.cc:32:10: fatal error: gtk/gtk.h: No such file or directory". I can also checkout my Makefile:- https://pastebin.com/ZyVPNMCJ.15:57
TesagkIf a software instruction asks you to check a log file, the contents should show up in nano, right?16:24
Tesagknvm, answer is yes. I needed to run with sudo.16:25
TesagkHow do I jump to the root directory? cd ~ seems to bring me to a random place between root and my html folder.16:36
EriC^Tesagk: cd /16:37
TesagkEriC^ Thank you16:39
__raven_how to get hardware functions to work on a md99480 tablet computer with ubuntu 19.0416:47
jinkDoes 18.04 LTS provide support for apache httpd with tls1.3 somehow?16:55
jink(I know I can add ppa:ondrej, but I'd rather not depend on things I don't know or trust per se.)16:56
eelstrebormy wifi card is wpa3 capable but even with the latest firmware from git.kernel.org the wpa3 wap is greyed out on the laptop network manager - is there another source for firmware for wifi cards (intel ac9260)?16:59
jinkTesagk: You should probably use a PAGER, rather than an EDITOR to view log files (less, more).  ~ is your home directory, so "cd ~" takes you home (it's not random at all, luckily).16:59
Tesagkjink: By random I mean I don't remember setting it as home, so I'm not sure why it selects that specific location.17:01
TesagkIs there a good default PAGER software in Ubuntu to use?17:02
TvL2386jink: ssl.conf:#   Available values: all, SSLv3, TLSv1, TLSv1.1, TLSv1.217:02
jinkTvL2386: Yes, I know.  A recent version of apache httpd with openssl 1.1.1c supports 1.3.  I was hoping it was properly backported.17:03
jinkTesagk: I tend to use "less".17:03
TvL2386jink: yeah I guess it's not really easy without relying on that ppa for example17:04
TvL2386jink: as an alternative, I'd investigate the possibility to just use a simple docker container with the feature you need?17:04
robertparkerxHow do I checkk to see if a file exist in command line17:05
TvL2386robertparkerx: test -e /var/log/syslog17:06
jinkTvL2386: Worth looking in to.17:06
robertparkerxWhat if it doesn't return anything17:06
robertparkerxIt doesn't exist?17:07
TvL2386robertparkerx: you must evaluate the exitstatus17:07
ElliriaIf you know the file name, you can replace filename in this to find it: locate "filename"17:07
TvL2386robertparkerx: test -e /var/log/syslog && echo yeah || echo "I'm sad"17:07
ElliriaThat will work for partial searches, too. For instance, if you know it's about apples, but don't remember the title, you can do locate "apples" to find all files with apples in their name.17:07
TvL2386Elliria: That would return all matches, not what he asked. Also depends on the freshness of the locate db17:08
ElliriaOkay.17:09
TvL2386robertparkerx: why do you want to check? What problem do you want to solve?17:09
robertparkerxwell the server is returning 404 but I have rsync from the old env17:10
robertparkerxSorry the server is returning 404 for images but I have rsync them from the old env17:10
TvL2386robertparkerx: so: You have copied files somewhere and the webserver can't find the resource you are requesting17:10
robertparkerxYes17:10
TvL2386robertparkerx: and the problem is: why!?17:10
Tesagkjjink: ??17:10
robertparkerxYes17:11
TvL2386robertparkerx: you should check if the documentroot is set correctly. Is the webserver (apache/nginx/...) looking in the right directory?17:11
__raven_how to make backlight controll working on a md99480 tablet computer with ubuntu 19.04?17:12
TvL2386robertparkerx: you probably know where you rsynced the data to, so you know where the webserver should serve it from, also check the /var/log/WeBsErver/*log files17:12
jinkTesagk: less /var/log/syslog17:12
TvL2386Tesagk: `cd ~` does not change to a random directory, it changes to your homedir17:14
TesagkTvL2386: You may not have been keeping up. I'm not sure how it selected the homedir that it did.17:14
TesagkThat's what I meant by "random"17:14
TvL2386ah ok, sorry :)17:14
TvL2386echo $HOME17:15
TvL2386oops17:15
Tesagkjjink: So I see syslog in there, but how do I use it?17:15
jinkman less17:15
TvL2386Tesagk: I think `~` expands to $HOME. So you could check why your $HOME is wrong or has what it has :)17:15
jinkBut it's "q" to quit, ">" to scroll to the end of file, "space" for next page, "b" for previous page.17:16
TesagkSo: "less filename"17:16
Tesagk?17:16
jinkYes.17:16
jinkgetent passwd `whoami` # should display the homedir as well17:17
Tesagkjjink: Thank you17:18
TvL2386jink: yeah but $HOME could be set to something else than what's listed in /etc/passwd17:18
TvL2386jink: your command is the same as `grep jink /etc/passwd`17:19
ioriaenv | grep -i home17:19
TvL2386echo $HOME17:19
TesagkSo cd ~ is taking me to: /home/tesagk/17:20
TesagkWhich has the dd directory in it17:20
TesagkEr, dd file?17:20
TvL2386Tesagk: yeah true (no idea about `dd` directories :P)17:21
TesagkIt's not a directory.17:21
TesagkBut it takes me to /home/tesagk/ rather than /home/17:21
TvL2386Tesagk: home is the parent directory for all user homedirs17:21
TvL2386Tesagk: my homedir /home/tvl2386, your homedir /home/tesagk, chads homedir: /home/chad17:22
ioriaTesagk, why do you want to cd in /home ?17:22
TesagkIsn't that the point of cd ~ ??17:22
TvL2386I need to rewind and see if a question was stated about what needs to be accomplished I guess :)17:22
uRock/home/tesagk/ is your home17:22
TvL2386Tesagk: no that is not the point17:23
TvL2386Tesagk: /home is static, cd ~ is not17:23
TvL2386why introduce something cool when you just want to `cd /home`17:23
lotuspsychjelets focus on actual ubuntu issues?17:23
TesagkTvL2386 gotcha17:23
lotuspsychjelinux commands in #bash or ##linux17:23
TvL2386lotuspsychje: you are right17:23
rud0lf~ sweet ~17:24
rud0lf:)17:24
rfmjoin /#ubuntu-server17:24
jinkTvL2386: I know, but you should use the tools provided, rather than think of your own things.  I think getent supports other passwd databases, too.17:26
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super_kozaHi! I have the dumb and can't for the love of god open ports on my PC. Could someone give me a hand please?17:28
super_kozaI have ufw and I have enabled lets say port 123. When I do `ufw status` I can see this.17:29
lotuspsychje!firewall | super_koza17:30
ubottusuper_koza: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo17:30
lotuspsychjesuper_koza: see also the #netfilter channel17:30
super_kozaAlso, I have opened the ports on the routers.17:31
super_kozaSo it must be working...17:31
Sven_vBsuper_koza, also what makes you think you couldn't open the ports? maybe the problem is somewhere else17:31
super_kozaLet's encrypt couldn't get the certificate. I have checked the logs and they suggested the ports.17:32
super_kozaI have also used some of those online port checking tools and they all showed that the ports are closed.17:32
super_kozaWhat is weird is that I have opened another port earlier and it works.17:32
jinkYour provider blocks 80 and 443.17:33
super_kozaI think I have done everything the same way. I have tried rebooting the routers and the PC, but it didn't help.17:33
TvL2386jink: yeah I agree, but I don't like that your command uses the plain output of `whoami`. Because I can create a user like this: `useradd -s /bin/bash '$user'` and that would not work with your command. I also think that you overcomplicate what can be done with `echo $HOME`17:33
Sven_vByeah might be annoyance tactics to get you to subscribe to a "business" plan17:33
super_kozaI have tried opening port 123 for that reason and it didn't work as well...17:34
Sven_vBdo ports above 1024 work?17:34
jinkTvL2386: Fair enough, but environment variables can be overwritten, too.  Then again, I'm not sure what cd ~ uses.  Does it use $HOME or your actual home?17:35
super_kozaSven_vB, let me check...17:35
Sven_vBI guess when you use "cd ~" it's the shell that replaces ~. if you want $HOME, you can just run cd without args.17:35
TvL2386jink: tested, it uses $HOME: export HOME=/tmp ; cd $HOME ; pwd17:35
Sven_vBerr, "run" isn't the right word17:36
Sven_vBTvL2386, well if you put $HOME there what else would you expect. :)17:36
Sven_vBas long as there are no spaces and shell meta chars involved of course17:37
jinkTvL2386: 👍17:37
TvL2386Sven_vB: you're right, replace it with ~ and it's also /tmp after the export17:37
super_kozaSven_vB, no port 2222 also doesn't work.17:37
Sven_vBstill the question remains why you want a ~ there17:38
super_kozaWhat would be the best way to post images here?17:38
Sven_vBsuper_koza, a link to a plain image file17:38
jinksuper_koza: I'm assuming you're on Magenta and they claim to not block any ports.17:38
TvL2386jink, Sven_vB: export HOME=/tmp ; cd ~ ; pwd     => you are in /tmp now17:38
Sven_vBTvL2386, yeah still no reason for the ~17:38
super_kozaNo, the PC is somewhere else...17:38
super_kozaIt is not at the same location where I am at...17:39
TvL2386yep. You don't need it unless you want to cd ~/Documents17:39
jinksuper_koza: Does that provider block ports?17:39
TvL2386now I'm gonna shutup about bash, I don't want to be kicked17:39
jink:D17:39
super_kozaNo, I had it working before reconfiguring everything and starting from scratch.17:39
Sven_vBTvL2386, but do read the bash faq. :D17:39
TvL2386Sven_vB: thanks for the advice, but I haven't read anything I didn't know :)17:40
jinksuper_koza: Is anything running on 2222 / 123 / 80 / 443 ?17:40
TvL2386Sven_vB: I always use ~ because I like it. I know it's not necessary (missed that question)17:41
super_kozassh is running on some other port17:41
Sven_vBsuper_koza, use netcat as your test server, maximum logging, then test to connect with another max-verbose netcat step by step going outward from localhost to some VPS on the webs17:41
Sven_vBTvL2386, ok then17:41
Sven_vBsuper_koza, if it's a firewall issue, other computers on your LAN should have the same problems if your rules aren't specific about IP ranged.17:42
Sven_vB*ranges17:43
TvL2386super_koza: If you are sure you forwarded correctly to your host, you can always dump traffic to that port on your host to see if packets actually arrive17:43
super_kozaOk, how do I do that?17:43
Sven_vBindeed that would be even better17:43
TvL2386super_koza: glad you ask17:43
TvL2386super_koza: on your host, assume the NIC is eth0: sudo tcpdump -i eth0 -nn port 80 or port 44317:44
robertparkerxTvL2386, I did test -e "filename.jpg" and I did not get a response17:44
TvL2386any packets arriving are printed in your terminal17:44
robertparkerxIf I type the same thing and it doesn't exist I get the same17:44
super_kozaok, so from the server17:44
super_kozajust a sec17:44
Sven_vBrobertparkerx, put "; echo rv=$?" behind it. or just use ls17:45
robertparkerxI can't just use ls17:45
robertparkerxIt's huge!17:45
TvL2386robertparkerx: test -e .... does not output anything. It tests existance and exits with exitcode 0 or 117:45
TvL2386robertparkerx: so as I stated: you need to evaluate that exitstatus.17:45
Sven_vBrobertparkerx, nah. even busybox has a ls. ls -l filename.jpg17:45
TvL2386robertparkerx: that's why I showed you: test -e /var/log/syslog && echo yeah || echo "I'm sad"17:46
Sven_vBwould be insane to make a linux and omit ls because it's too big17:46
TvL2386robertparkerx: as an alternative, you can also `stat /var/log/syslog`17:46
TvL2386prints nice info about that file, also an error if it does not exist17:46
super_kozaTvL2386: Great! It works indeed!17:47
robertparkerxSven_vB, Okay ls -l "filename.jpg" gave me a response17:47
super_kozaSo it must be something wrong with ufw...17:47
robertparkerxNo such file name or directive17:47
TvL2386super_koza: nice, yes, OR17:47
TvL2386super_koza: there might be nothing listening on that port17:47
Sven_vBrobertparkerx, "directory" probably ;)17:48
TvL2386super_koza: check with: `sudo ss -ltnp | egrep ':80|:443'`17:48
robertparkerxYes that is what I meant17:48
robertparkerxSorry17:48
super_kozaI checked the port 80 and it didn't work with tcpdump17:49
super_kozaall other ports worked17:49
TvL2386super_koza: ok so traffic to port 80 didn't show up?17:49
Sven_vB"work" as in packets do arrive?17:49
Sven_vBbtw if it's just about Let's encrypt, you might use DNS verification instead of webserver verification.17:50
super_kozaHmmm17:50
super_kozaThis is strange...17:50
Sven_vByou'd have to put a special TXT record at _acme-challenge.whatever.your.domain.is17:50
super_kozaJust a second...17:51
super_kozaLet me doublecheck what I did here.17:51
super_kozaNow when I do port checking I see that 443 is open17:51
super_kozabut I changed nothing.17:51
TvL2386*eating popcorn* can't stand the suspense17:51
Sven_vBdid you happen to reset router settings? some home routers default to putting their admin interface on :80 even for outsiders17:51
robertparkerxYeah I'm pretty sure the files don't exist and rsync failed17:51
Sven_vBrobertparkerx, run rsync more verbosely then you'll see17:52
TvL2386robertparkerx: ^--17:52
TvL2386and confirm it completes without error -_-17:52
TvL2386that should have been step 1 :)17:53
super_kozaThese are the ports open in ufw: 80, 8080, 443, 123, 2222 and my custom ssh port17:53
super_kozawhen I do ufw status, they are allowed17:54
super_kozaThis is good.17:54
TvL2386super_koza: I'm a bit lost... to which ports do you actually see packets arriving?17:54
TvL2386super_koza: and also: what's wrong?17:54
super_kozaI see packets on ports 8080, 443, 123, 2222 and my custom port17:56
super_kozaport check tool say that only ports 443 and my custom ssh port are open17:56
TvL2386port check tool may not check all ports?17:56
Sven_vBtry whether packets arrive when you change the target port of your router's forwarding rule for :80 incoming17:57
Sven_vBmaybe it just has a problem with :80 inside17:57
TvL2386super_koza: don't you have a linux host somewhere on the net from where you can test yourself?17:57
Sven_vBcould be as dumb as someone forgetting a flag in a netfilter rule17:57
Sven_vBI can test outside view for you if you like17:58
TvL2386super_koza: Sven_vB: When some tool says a port is open, it says something about end-to-end connectivity. Which is fine when everything works. Since we are troubleshooting, I would focus on 1 port at a time17:58
TvL2386super_koza: Sven_vB and use an external host, like Sven_vB. He can telnet your port 80. You can check to see if packets arrive at your host with tcpdump17:59
TvL2386super_koza: Sven_vB then you at least know the port-forward for port 80 is working and you have to focus on ufw or the service running17:59
hussamDoes "guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted lvm" allow me to choose a large swap partition for hibernation? or does it hardcode one?18:00
super_kozaIn the local network where the server is I have only Windows machines running18:02
super_kozaBut that should be fine for Telnet18:02
TvL2386super_koza: you can even use your browser to send packets18:02
TvL2386super_koza: just type http://192.168.0.5:2222/18:02
Sven_vBsuper_koza, you could boot one of them with an Ubuntu live USB also. but telnet, or netcat/socat for windows, should be enough.18:02
TvL2386and it will send tcp packets to your 192.168.0.5 port 222218:02
Sven_vBactually even a browser should do.18:02
tomreynhussam: Ubuntu >= 18.04 defaults to a swap file on your root file system ("/"). I'm not sure about 16.04, and you didn't specify the version you're asking about.18:03
TvL2386you can then confirm packets arrive and are sent back18:03
hussamtomreyn: I am installing 18.0418:03
tomreynhussam: so then you have your answer already ;)18:03
hussamtomreyn: so hibernation will not work?18:04
super_kozaSven_vB: I am accessing the device remotely. No way to try live USB or something. But nevermind that...18:04
tomreynhussam: oh also hibernation is broken with encryption, i think18:04
TvL2386super_koza: if you are remote, you don't need an external tool. You are the tool :)18:04
tomreynhussam: that's if you don't setup a swap partition manually at least. maybe just with uefi booting, i don't recall the details.18:05
hussamtomreyn: it doesn't have to if swap parition is used and it is not encrypted and I boot with resume=/dev/sda2 (where sda2 is the swap partition).18:05
hussamroot can still be encrypted if it is decrypted from initramfs image.18:06
tomreynhussam: so you'll need to do manual partitoning then to ensure you'll have a swap partition which is slightly larger than the size of your installed RAM.18:06
hussamtomreyn: sure but I was hoping to still be able to use disk encryption.18:06
Sven_vBTvL2386, "remotely" doesn't necessarily mean via internet or even TCP :)18:07
Sven_vBor IP18:07
tomreynhussam: if you have a parition (non file) backed swap / resume device then i think hibernation can still work even when / is encrypted18:07
tomreynhussam: can't guarantee it, though, you should just try.18:07
super_kozaOk, from a PC in local network I have tried accessing via web browser as suggested18:08
super_kozaAll ports except 123 were working18:08
super_kozaxD18:08
hussamtomreyn: exactly so is there a way to edit the "guided" options to add a swap partition?18:09
super_kozaBut it works when I try the port check tool18:09
super_kozaShould I disable ufw for now?18:09
lotuspsychjesuper_koza: please dont use this channel to describe every step you take, focus on actual ubuntu questions instead18:10
tomreynhussam: no, you'll need to do it manually18:11
hussammanual doesn't allow encryption.18:11
hussamok, I'll do without encryption then.18:12
tomreynhmm, are you certain of that?18:12
hussamyes.18:12
tomreynok, sorry then, i wasn't aware. you could use the server installers, though18:12
ioriahussam, yes it does, but it's not intuitive as 'guided'18:12
hussamioria: is there a documentation guide I can follow? perhaps I missed something then.18:13
ioriahussam, you create a /boot partition, anf the format root with Luks18:13
fuzeHow can I fix this? http://termbin.com/c14h18:20
lotuspsychjelol18:21
fuzelotuspsychje: Please startx is failing i need help18:21
hussamioria: so I manually run cryptsetup /cryptsetup open and then start the installer?18:22
ioriahussam, nope18:23
TvL2386fuze: that is not a problem that needs to be solved18:23
TvL2386fuze: you are trying to install all kernels you can find18:23
fuzeTvL2386: ohh. ok I just want to reinstall the ones I have18:23
TvL2386fuze: don't know why you want to reinstall them, but yes18:24
TvL2386fuze: this is what you have: `dpkg --list | grep linux-image-`18:24
fuzeTvL2386: I think I broke them. What is the command to reinstall the ones I have?18:24
TvL2386fuze: so just replace linux-image-* with the ones you actually have I suppose18:25
rud0lfhello... i've installed v4l2loopback and then removed it when no longer needed, but now at boot i get several ugly messages [ FAIL ] Failed to find module 'v4l2loopback'18:25
rud0lfwhere is the config entry resposible for attempt to load this module so i can remove it?18:25
rud0lfjust for clean and nice boot experience :)18:26
TvL2386fuze: short line: apt-get install --reinstall $(dpkg --list | grep linux-image- | grep ^ii | awk '{ print $2 }')18:26
tomreynreinstalling kernel images is not a way to 'make startx work' though18:26
TvL2386^--- agreed18:26
fuzeTvL2386: Is this normal output or do I have too many? Im running kubuntu 18.04  http://termbin.com/z5m618:26
TvL2386fuze: that's normal18:27
fuzetomreyn: worth a shot i guess18:28
tomreynfuze: i disagree18:28
TvL2386fuze: I also disagree18:29
fuzeCould make things worse?18:29
tomreynrud0lf: apt search v4l2loopback     << does this list that any are installed?18:29
TvL2386fuze: yes, I'd be very hesitant reinstalling the current kernel... what happens if it fails? Will your system still boot?18:29
rud0lfit does tomreyn18:30
fuzefortunately it didnt change my issue at all18:30
fuzeworse or better18:30
rud0lfv4l2loopback-source and -utils18:30
tomreynrud0lf: so, i guess you may want to purge those?18:30
fuzehttp://termbin.com/gg0t18:30
rud0lftomreyn: thanks, i'll see if that helped18:30
tomreynrud0lf: maybe you still have configs of v4l2loopback-dkms as well, so maybe purge that as well18:31
fuzehttp://termbin.com/8kbh18:31
fuzesome logs^18:31
tomreynrud0lf: so that's    sudo apt purge v4l2loopback-dkms v4l2loopback-utils v4l2loopback-source     and i'll be back later. good luck.18:32
fuzeIs this fixable without a reinstall?18:32
rud0lfi did sudo apt purge v4l2loopback-*18:34
rud0lfthe problem still persists18:34
rud0lfnvm, it's not a big deal18:34
TvL2386rud0lf: you installed that package, maybe dependencies got installed as well and are still present I don't know... I'd check: apt-get autoremove18:35
amosbirdhi, how can i debug this error https://la.wentropy.com/sEgQ18:37
TvL2386amosbird: what ubuntu version?18:38
TvL2386amosbird: short answer is probably: fix the package18:38
amosbirdTvL2386: I mean, how can I debug it18:38
lotuspsychjeamosbird: where did you find that package?18:38
amosbirdit's built by myself18:39
lotuspsychjeamosbird: we dont support own compiles here18:39
lotuspsychjeamosbird: we reccomend to use the official packages from the ubuntu repos instead18:39
amosbirdlotuspsychje: where can I ask questions about debuging apt install packages?18:40
amosbirdspecifically postinst script18:40
lotuspsychjeamosbird: i think ##linux might take your question18:40
dbuggerDoes anyone know why artifacts and noise can happen in the screen?18:42
lotuspsychje!details | dbugger18:42
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TvL2386dbugger: faulty connectors, bad cables, broken screen, broken graphics card, ...18:43
dbuggerlotuspsychje, TvL2386 I am seeing images like this: https://i.stack.imgur.com/Fayqw.png18:45
dbuggerSpecially when I return from a suspend state18:45
dbuggerbut not exclusively18:45
Walexdbugger: not clear what's the problem with that image, but anyhow a better channel is ##hardware18:50
super_kozaOk, I believe that all ports except 80 is open. However the ISP shouldn't be blocking any ports. The issue was that I didn't have any listeners on the other ports, so they appeared as closed. Any idea what could be going on with port 80?18:56
lotuspsychjesuper_koza: #netfilter19:00
dbuggerWalex, if you see inside the circles, the image looks like noise19:06
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flogal2o3-cr: you still here?19:55
berz3rkhey20:02
berz3rki want to use dd to restore a partition, but the image is larger then the partition. how can I use dd so it uses the partition size as max and doesnt write more?20:02
berz3rki dont even know what happens when there is more then the partition size20:03
tomreynberz3rk: when there's more than can be written, dd would experience i/o failues and quit20:05
TvL2386berz3rk: uhm.... You will be missing what could not be written and will probably result in a corrupted partition. At least you'll be missing data20:06
berz3rkits a bit tricky20:06
berz3rkits a hidden partition on the nintendo switch, it emulates an mmc and stuff, not so simple, so i have to do that stuff with dd instead of partition tools20:06
berz3rktomreyn: there probably can be more written, but it will be on another partition, you know? will dd overwrite the next partition?20:07
berz3rki think my best bet is to make the partition a lil bigger20:08
berz3rkrestore then shrink down20:08
tomreyni don't think so, but won't guearantee it either.20:08
tomreyn... insreponse to "will dd overwrite the next partition"20:08
TvL2386berz3rk: if you use `dd if=myddfile of=/dev/sdx3` it will not go into sdx420:09
berz3rkTvL2386: what will happen with the stuff that doesnt fit20:09
TvL2386berz3rk: is not written20:10
berz3rkbut is it a problem20:10
berz3rkhm20:10
TvL2386probably20:10
flogDoes anyone know what the default desktop environment uses to control backlight?20:10
TvL2386bigger partition, smaller dd is fine, the other way around probably not20:10
TvL2386depends on what you will be missing20:10
TvL2386and who knows what you will be missing20:10
TvL2386berz3rk: not sure what's on the dd image, but you may also look into mounting the dd file and copy stuff if that suits your case20:11
berz3rki dont know if i can mount that thing20:11
TvL2386me neither, but with `losetup` you can probably mount it on a loopback device20:11
TvL2386and then mount it somewhere20:11
TvL2386"*create a loopback device" I meant20:12
berz3rkits 31 gb big20:12
berz3rkbut fdisk says it has 150 gb20:12
berz3rk:x20:12
TvL2386no20:12
TvL2386berz3rk: the disk was 150GB, but the contents 31GB I think20:12
berz3rkwhen i restore, is that an issue20:13
TvL2386fdisk does not take thin provisioning and such into account20:13
berz3rki got to a point in the past that my whole haddrive was broken20:13
berz3rkbut i wanted to save information i knew the offset kind of from20:13
berz3rkso i saved it into an img file20:13
TvL2386if I were you: I would look into mounting the dd file and then inspecting what and how much is on there20:13
TvL2386then again: I have no idea why you are doing what you're doing :)20:14
fuzeis there an easy command to take a list of all the files/folders in one directory, and remove files/folders with the same name in another directory?is there an easy command to take a list of all the files/folders in one directory, and remove files/folders with the same name in another directory?20:14
fuzeoops pasted twice20:14
TvL2386easy command: no20:14
fuzei mean like a single command20:14
berz3rkTvL2386: so if fdisk reports the image is 150gb big, but in fact its 31 gb and the partition is 29 gb, it will write that 29 prob and then error out? what about that 150gb info20:14
TvL2386fuze: no20:14
fuzeI can't pipe ls into rm or something like that?20:15
TvL2386fuze: that's not a single command20:15
fuzelike a one liner20:15
TvL2386berz3rk: the only reason I can think of that dd file is 31GB, is that it's either: compressed or sparse20:16
TvL2386berz3rk: it will want to really write 150GB20:16
TvL2386those were two reasons though :)20:16
TvL2386fuze: why being focused on easy, single, oneliner...20:17
TvL2386the answer will either be yes or no20:17
TvL2386and that's not constructive right :)20:17
fuzeI don't care what you call it i just want something i can enter into terminal to do it automatically20:17
fuzels ~/dir | xargs rm -r while in the desired directory to rm isnt working20:18
TvL2386fuze: I'd say the answer is "no". Because you'll have to hack all kinds of things into bash. Take spaces into account and such... I think it will be a mess...20:18
berz3rkit thinks its 150 gb because originaly it was and i used some dd command to stop at dumping20:19
berz3rkthen it wrote wrong meta info20:19
fuzeTvL2386: ls -1 provides a vertical list20:19
TvL2386fuze: I would write a simple (ruby/python) script to accomplish what you want20:19
TvL2386fuze: I'd use `find`20:20
fuzeTvL2386: actually i think that command works with ls -120:20
fuzeyes it worked20:20
tomreynfuze: don't parse ls output. use find -print0, and read the man page on this option.20:20
fuzels -1 ~/dir | xargs rm -r20:20
fuzedoes the job20:20
TvL2386fuze: ah check, I missed the "one directory". I was assuming lots of files / subfolders....20:21
fuzeits ok, thanks for the whitespace advice20:21
TvL2386fuze: then I'd use something like `find -maxdepth 1`20:21
berz3rkcan i just ctrl + c in the right moment when dd writes20:21
berz3rklol20:21
TvL2386fuze: you're welcome20:22
TvL2386berz3rk: yes20:22
berz3rkbut it can be corrupted :P?20:22
berz3rky sry for my questions20:22
TvL2386berz3rk: you can always press ctrl+c, there's never a right moment though when you abort a dd20:22
berz3rklike i said im dealing with hidden partitions20:22
TvL2386berz3rk: if you abort a dd, you will be missing data and the result will probably be sadness20:23
doug16kberz3rk, the dd argument you mention is probably 'count'20:25
TvL2386berz3rk: you have a dd file. What's the source? A 150GB harddrive? What's on it? Why do you want to dd it? What's your endgoal. I might be able to tell you other interesting stuff that will work awesomely (is that a word)?20:25
doug16kTvL2386, it's a word20:25
TvL2386?20:26
berz3rkah it wrote to limit and ended20:26
berz3rknice20:26
berz3rkno error i try it out no20:26
berz3rknow20:26
TvL2386doug16k: what do you mean?20:26
TvL2386oh lol20:29
TvL2386thx doug16k20:29
doug16kdd if=... of=... bs=1048576 count=150000    copies 150GiB20:38
doug16kor just 1MB for bs20:38
doug16k1M20:38
doug16kyou can seek (to change the start place in the output file) or skip (to change the start place in the input file). by default it truncates the output file at the last byte written, but you can add conversion option (notrunc) to the oconv20:40
doug16knormally seek and skip are in bs (block size) units, but you can add options seek_bytes skip_bytes to make them be interpreted as byte offsets20:42
oer&& sync is preferrable20:42
TvL2386it seems to me berz3rk is trying to copy a partition from a dd file to a partition. If that's true, there are easier ways to get there. If he only wants access to the contents, there are also easier ways20:45
doug16kyes I agree20:45
berz3rkbut its a hidden partition20:45
doug16ksometimes I answer XY looking questions because sometimes they really want the answer for Y :)20:46
TvL2386:)20:46
berz3rki dont know what i want20:46
berz3rklol20:46
TvL2386hidden partitions don't exist. A partition exists or not, but is not hidden. (as far as I know)20:46
TvL2386you have a dd file, not a hidden partition20:47
berz3rkofc it can be hidden20:47
TvL2386I think you mistake umount with hidden20:47
berz3rkthere can be "unallocated space" but in reality there can be data20:47
berz3rkyou can write data to a harddrive and all partition tools have no idea that something is actualy there20:47
oerfiles can be hidden, partitions not20:47
TvL2386hidden files?20:47
berz3rkyou can write data into unallocated space20:47
oerhmm, this goes FUD.20:47
TvL2386berz3rk: yes you can... That would suck though imho... How would you know where the data is then?20:49
berz3rkif you write it somewhere20:49
berz3rklol20:49
berz3rkyou can mount it20:49
oerthis goes beyound ubuntu support20:49
berz3rkwith offsets20:49
TvL2386yeah but you need to know exactly where... argh... sounds like voodoo...20:49
oer!ot20:49
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:49
doug16kyou can write into unallocated space? you can stab your leg with a pencil too. question is, why would you do that?20:49
TvL2386oer: yes20:49
TvL2386lol20:49
berz3rki think this is ubuntu support20:49
berz3rklol kidding20:49
berz3rkso windows 10 doesnt know i run ubuntu20:50
woenxHey, one question. I have a laptop, and when I'm home, I use a bluetooth keyboard with it. The thing is, the bluetooth keyboard has a different layout, so I have to change it manually every time and sometimes it's annoying. Is there any way to automatically assign a layout to each keyboard? (USA for the one in the laptop, Spanish for the bluetooth one)20:50
oermaybe blueman detects layout better than the standard tool20:52
doug16kberz3rk, did windows installer blow away all your linux partitions / destroyed your partition table? there is a tool that fixes that20:52
oer!info blueman20:52
ubottublueman (source: blueman): Graphical bluetooth manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.0.5-1ubuntu1 (bionic), package size 1645 kB, installed size 4904 kB20:52
berz3rkdoug16k: too complicated for this channel lol20:53
berz3rkhttps://www.reddit.com/r/SwitchHacks/comments/c7s30w/nintendo_switch_homebrew_from_stock_to_emummc_cfw/20:53
oerberz3rk, please join #ubuntu-offtopic for that20:54
kenperkinshaving a heck of a time figuring out why my local systemd-resolved seems to keep caching incorrect dns records for static host mapping of local resources20:58
kenperkinsis there a systemd-resolved channel?20:58
kenperkinsif not, anyone have a tip where the right place for that would be?20:59
oerhow did you made that static map, netplan?20:59
kenperkinsstatic map is done on my router20:59
kenperkinsif i dig @router or dig@pihole, i always get the right address, but if I dig using localhost (systemd-resolved) i get back the address that would come from external dns21:00
kenperkinsi.e. localhost->pihole->router->8.8.8.821:00
TvL2386kenperkins: does `systemd-resolve --status` give you any clues?21:01
kenperkinslooks ok ish, although I'm new to systemd-resolved, no dns servers set in global, I see my pihole dns set as dns for my active interface21:02
kenperkins/etc/resolv.conf only has the loopback entry21:03
kenperkinsi turned up to debug logging for systemd-resolved21:03
TvL2386kenperkins: yeah that sounds normal to me, but I'm also not really an expert on that topic21:03
tomreynthere is --flush-caches21:04
oerhow about proper setp of your pihole ? see DnsMasq Fix: http://www.ubuntuboss.com/how-to-install-pihole-on-ubuntu-18-04/21:08
cocofubuntu is a neat distro.21:09
oerthanks, you are a neat user21:09
TvL2386i agree!21:10
kenperkins@oer I'm running pihole on a separate raspberry pi21:10
oerstill your /etc/systemd/resolved.conf should have  DNSStubListener=yes to DNSStubListener=no .. what guide did you follow?21:12
oerafter that; sudo systemctl reload-or-restart systemd-resolved and then sudo systemctl reload-or-restart dnsmasq # and voila21:13
TvL2386maybe I missed something, but kenperkins has a ubuntu machine, that is using his pihole as dns server. His pihole returns correct responses, however, a weird entry got cached right?21:14
TvL2386I'm trying to understand the setup and the problem21:15
cocofis iredmail script a pretty good idea when it comes to installing mail server?21:15
oerpihole -r could fix some things, not sure what part of his setup messes up, and did pihole work before?21:15
cocofseems like a neat sh that installs multiple things at once.21:16
oercocof, basicly a mailserver needs a lot of work to setup, and maintain. never used/read about iredmail, do you trust the author?21:17
cocofoer  I can read sh before running it.21:18
TvL2386I just downloaded the bz2 file... the shell script includes tons of variables and other shell scripts...21:19
kenperkins@oer sorry, been trying to figure out wtf is going on. My pihole predates me switching to ubuntu. using ubuntu as a desktop experience is new, I've been on OSX for 9 years21:19
TvL2386first thing I thought: if this breaks and my email is on there................ lots of sadness21:19
kenperkinsI don't *think* my pihole is wrong, but tbh, dns is a pain to debug21:20
TvL2386kenperkins: congratulations on the upgrade21:20
kenperkinsTvL2386: years of using shit docker for mac through a vm has chapped me significantly21:20
TvL2386kenperkins: you should confirm your pihole is correct21:20
kenperkinsit's so fucking wonderful running it natively21:20
TvL2386haha :)21:20
TvL2386kenperkins: I would flush the dns cache and try to see if you can reproduce the issue21:21
TvL2386kenperkins: and if you can, you must find out where it comes from21:22
kenperkinsyea, I'm trying to narrow down the repro21:22
cocofoer:  well mail server is installed and then it only needs dkim and few more bits :)21:22
kenperkinsconfirm that `dig @1.2.3.4 some.record.com` will go directly to that nameserver and bypass anything local21:23
TvL2386kenperkins: that's normal. You ask 1.2.3.4 for some.record.com and it answers21:23
TvL2386kenperkins: what were you expecting? :)21:24
kenperkinsjust making sure I correctly understood the `@` directive in dig21:25
TvL2386kenperkins: ah... ok... @ directs the query to that host21:25
TvL2386dig www.google.com @8.8.8.821:25
kenperkinsok, I have a suspicion, I think it's to do with IPv6 and IPv4 records21:26
TvL2386the plot thickens21:26
kenperkinsthat's it :D not ubuntu for sure21:27
kenperkinsdoesn't mean I'm not a dummy however21:27
kenperkinsok, so apparently you can add static host mapping for AAAA records to IPv4, I didn't know this, and by doing so, it solved the issue when it would cache the result of the AAAA lookup (which went to the public address for my router) rather than the internal ipv4 static mappings21:33
kenperkinsTIL!21:33
kenperkins(at least in ubiquiti routers)21:33
kenperkinsi wonder if my MBP had IPv6 disabled, thus hiding this situation21:34
TvL2386kenperkins: what do you mean by "static host mapping for AAAA records to IPv4"?21:53
TvL2386kenperkins: do you mean you enter an ipv4 address in an AAAA record?21:54
ryuoTvL2386: there's an ipv6 feature that can map ipv4 addresses to or from the IPv6 address space.21:55
ryuomaybe that's related.21:55
TvL2386hmmm yeah maybe...21:55
kenperkins@TvL2386 so my static mapping was effectively  "internal.mydomain.com: 10.10.0.30"21:55
kenperkinsbut you can also add a second record of inet "::ffff:10.10.0.30"21:56
kenperkinsand then lookups for A or AAAA both resolve to the same IPv4 address21:56
TvL2386mkay, I've never looked into that :)21:57
TvL2386cool :)21:57
kenperkinspreviously, I didn't have an AAAA for the internal record, so it routed to public internet which was the outside address of my router, and was wrong :)21:57
KarnyIs there a specific channel for Xubuntu or rather wifi card issues?21:57
kenperkinstoday i learned :D21:57
TvL2386me too :D21:57
kenperkinsryuo: almost certainly that21:57
tomreyn!xubuntu | Karny21:57
ubottuKarny: Xubuntu is Ubuntu with !Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at https://xubuntu.org/ - To install the Xubuntu environment from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop^ » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !xubuntu-channels21:57
cocofif I want to use 2 mail servers,  both listed in mx, should I list one I prefer to use for receiving emails with higher priority?21:58
tomreynKarny: for general *ubuntu questions you can also ask here, though21:58
TvL2386cocof: yes, and that means lower value21:58
cocofi plan to use separate mail servers for transnational and marketing21:58
cocoftransactional21:58
KarnyGreat, Im in Xubuntu channel21:58
cocofok seems simple.21:59
TvL2386cocof: the lower priority (higher value) is normally some mailrelay cache for if the higher priority is unavailable or something21:59
ryuococof: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MX_record21:59
cocofyes21:59
cocofwill use Postfix SMTP server21:59
kenperkinsok so as a new to ubuntu desktop user (mac and windows) anyone have any must read guides/tips on window management, etc22:00
tomreyncocof: /join #ubuntu-server22:00
ryuokenperkins: anything you read will largely be based on a specific DE. there's some conventions but it varies with the environment.22:00
TvL2386kenperkins: I don't, only thing I can say that I'm addicted to the old gnome style... bar on the top, one on the bottom. No stacking of icons. And try `terminator` for having split consoles in a single window.22:01
kenperkinsso, 1904 is gnome right? I'm just using the builtin right now22:01
ryuokenperkins: namely in the form of default keybindings... the mouse should generally behave the same.22:01
ducassekenperkins: tips on what?22:01
kenperkinsit seems like the keybindings are more like windows for the most part than mac (which is great), home, end, etc22:02
ryuokenperkins: 19.04? depends on which flavor you get. the standard ubuntu uses a GNOME derivative. there's a gnome flavor that's closer to upstream GNOME.22:02
oerinstall gnome-teak-tool22:03
oer!info gnome-teak-tool22:03
ubottuPackage gnome-teak-tool does not exist in bionic22:03
oer!info gnome-tweak-tool22:03
ubottugnome-tweak-tool (source: gnome-tweaks): adjust advanced settings for GNOME - transitional package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.28.1-1 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 12 kB22:03
ryuokenperkins: though i don't know who uses regular ubuntu these days. most people i know use other flavors or 3rd party derivatives.22:04
TvL2386my colleagues use normal ubuntu, but hey: I've gotten them away from Windows 10... They are still learning :D22:05
TvL23862 colleagues not to exaggerate22:06
kenperkinsryuo: well I'm not going to go crazy my first foray into linux on the desktop22:07
kenperkinsmostly, I wanted to evaluate it before springing for a work laptop22:08
ryuokenperkins: well, i wouldn't call standard ubuntu to be a good example of your typical environment. it's heavily customized GNOME. use a flavor if you want something closer to what you might find OOB with a DE.22:09
ryuokenperkins: but whichever you wish to try.22:09
kenperkinsoh well :D I'm enjoying it, how's that22:10
TvL2386that's a good start!22:12
Claudiohello22:33
ClaudioI have a small problem with Wifi Connection22:33
ClaudioWho are here?422:33
Bashing-om!details | Claudio22:34
ubottuClaudio: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information; for example, we might need errors, steps, relevant configuration files, Ubuntu version, and hardware information. Use a !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel.22:34
ClaudioBashing-om, hello :) i got beelink gt3 mini-pc22:35
Claudioand i have installed on Ubuntu mate22:36
ClaudioI don't see Wifi Module22:36
tomreynClaudio: can you run this in a temrinal window and post the url returned?     lspci -knn | grep -EA3 '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | nc termbin.com 999922:37
doug16kis AMD 5700XT GPU well supported in ubuntu?22:37
tomreynit provides info on your network devices22:37
Claudiotomreyn, just a moment :) i need to use 2 different PC22:38
tomreynClaudio: does it have no internet connection at all then currently?22:38
Bashing-omdoug16k: Yes and no - you will want the latest kernel and see: https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2425799 .22:39
Claudiotomreyn, correct. I try to connect Ethernet from this PC to Beelink GT3 but i don't have any connection22:41
doug16kBashing-om, thanks22:41
Claudiotomreyn, in everycase, i have only: Gigabit Ethernet Controller22:41
tomreyndoug16k: the 19.10 beta may actually work out of the box22:41
ClaudioIts possible Ubuntu-Mate its not compatible with this Mini-PC22:42
tomreynClaudio: hmm then your wireless was apparently not detected.22:42
Claudiotomreyn, correct, but there was on Windows OS22:43
tomreynClaudio: meaning?22:44
Claudiotomreyn,22:45
ClaudioI tried to install Ubuntu22:45
ClaudioBut I think its not a good Distro22:45
tomreyni see22:46
tomreynso these devices seem to have an AMPAK AP6255 wireless controller with a BCM43455 chipset22:46
tomreyn!b4322:47
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx22:47
tomreynClaudio: ^22:48
Claudiotomreyn, infact i try to follow this -->22:49
Claudiohttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1003350/bcm43455-pcie-wireless-adapter-not-recognised:22:49
tomreynthis could work if oyu have the driver already installed22:50
doug16khow far back in AMD gpus does one have to go to get "just works in 18.04 LTS"? RX 580?22:51
ns5"apt-get install" stopped prompting me for "y/n", why?  and how to get it back?22:51
doug16kI'm at kernel 5.0.0-30-generic22:52
tomreyndoug16k: anything below navi i'd say.22:54
Bashing-omdoug16k: RX 580 had support as far back as 16.04: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver .22:55
SoItBeginsI’m trying to install Wine i386 and apt wants to remove ubuntu-desktop. What’s up with THAT?23:09
CarlFKSoItBegins: there is something in ubuntu-desktop that isn't compatible - im guessing it wants to remove a few things23:11
SoItBeginsYeah, but isn’t ubuntu-desktop, y’know… my file manager?23:11
ryuono...23:12
CarlFKno - removing ubuntu-desktop alone won't do anything - it is a "meta package" that just has dependencies on all the things, like file manager23:12
ryuoit's a meta package that draws in every package that's part of that "group" of packages.23:13
SoItBeginsOh. So if I go ahead with this (it also wants to remove ubuntu-desktop-minimal and xorg) it won’t harm my computer?23:13
ryuothat sounds invasive...23:13
SoItBeginsYou noticed?23:13
SoItBeginsI think what’s going on is that Wine depends on the 32-bit version of itself, so to install it you have to switch 32-bit arches on.23:13
SoItBeginsAnd it’s installing a small crapton of 32-bit libraries along with wine...23:14
CarlFKxorg might be disruptive23:14
oerinteresting, did you see the wine wiki ?23:15
SoItBeginsThat’s where I got the install instructions from.23:16
oersudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 # and run apt dist-upgrade23:19
SoItBeginsoer: What’s that supposed to do for me?23:21
SoItBeginsI mean, WineHQ had me do the first half to add 32 bit architectures but23:21
SoItBegins[sigh] I’m just gonna do it and...23:22
SoItBeginswell, if my computer breaks after, we have a nice cautionary tale to tell the wineHQ people.23:23
oerhttps://wiki.winehq.org/Ubuntu23:23
SoItBeginsYeah, that23:23
SoItBegins’s the page I was following.23:23
SoItBeginsThey didn’t say anything about the install removing xorg tho :O23:24
SoItBeginsmaybe I’ll reinstall it after this is over.23:24
SoItBeginsReinstalled it. Juuuust in case.23:25
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