=== i73770K is now known as Dete === Dete is now known as DetectiveTaco [00:25] * jimcooncat hasn't been here in a long long while [00:26] defected to Mint, but I do run an Ubuntu server at Linode. [00:26] But I remember when this room had a brilliant 16 year old leader named John Dong. [00:27] !support | welcome back, jimcooncat [00:27] welcome back, jimcooncat: The official ubuntu support channel is #ubuntu. Also see http://ubuntu.com/support and http://ubuntuforums.org and http://askubuntu.com [00:28] there are other channels, maybe #ubuntu-offtopic for social chat === oer is now known as OerHeks === zbenjamin is now known as Guest51175 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:20] I installed sendmail in my local vm and unable to send emails [01:20] sudo nmap -sT -O localhost | grep 25 [01:20] 25/tcp open smtp [01:25] rexwin_: Depending on where that VM resides, you may need a local MTA like postfix to relay your email to another server for delivery. === akem__ is now known as akemhp === brendantcc is now known as totallynotbrendo === totallynotbrendo is now known as brendantcc [01:59] sometimes when I click a link, it causes my browser to crash [01:59] How do I fix this? [01:59] it's driving me crazy [01:59] when I click links elsewhere, outside the browser. [02:00] Firefox? What Ubuntu version? [02:01] HI I'm Trying to install nvidia drivers, I've followed several guides none with any luck. I've tried disabling wayland and also setting nomodeset in grub with no avail. Either way I can't seem to boot into a graphical session with nvidia drivers? any suggestions? [02:03] mathgrad: Wayland and Nvidia drivers are a work in progress. Are you wedded to Wayland ? [02:04] no [02:05] mathgrad: then at the login screen change the DE back to Xorg, and pastebin - lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d' - . See what we have to work with. [02:07] https://pastebin.com/SdRqmHBP [02:10] Bashing-om and thank you for trying to help [02:13] I've never had a problem with the nvidia drivers before the thing I'm doing different this time is a zfs native root install on 19.04 === brendantcc is now known as nahhj === nahhj is now known as nahhhh [02:14] mathgrad: Nvidia recommends the 430 driver for this card: https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/151568/en-us. What have we now for drivers installed ? pastebin ' dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia ' . [02:15] there are no nvidia drivers installed yet [02:16] mathgrad: So, what have you done to install a driver ? OEM install is a no no . [02:18] I've followed the suggestions on https://askubuntu.com/questions/1135869/ubuntu-19-04-wont-boot-with-nvidia-proprietary-drivers-418 [02:19] I can try again and just revert the snapshot but I've tried at least twice today === nahhhh is now known as brendantcc [02:21] akemhp, firefox, chrome [02:21] akemhp, Ubuntu 19.04, occurred with LTS as wel [02:21] mathgrad: Is secure boot a factor here ? That 1st reply "should" have been effective - and what release is this as the 430 driver is in the software repository in 18.04. [02:22] No I haven't enabled secure boot. After install of the drivers I do get a pkcs#7 error spamming my shutdown log however [02:22] 19.04 [02:23] mathgrad: Back to : dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia :) [02:23] Should I try to install again? [02:23] Nothing is returned from that command [02:24] gonna try it one step at a time [02:25] mathgrad: What results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt upgrade '? Then we see about proceeding in what direction, [02:25] I think the ppa isn't enabled yet since I used debootstrap to build this system [02:26] 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. [02:26] mathgrad: What release is this As the PPA may not be needed. [02:26] disco [02:27] One thing is if I enable the ppa and run ubuntu-drivers devices the drivers are listed. but ubuntu-drivers devices returns nothing without the ppa enabled [02:28] mathgrad: PPA not needed here. [02:28] !info nvidia-driver-430 disco | mathgrad [02:28] mathgrad: Package nvidia-driver-430 does not exist in disco [02:29] !info nvidia-driver-430 bionic | mathgrad [02:29] mathgrad: Package nvidia-driver-430 does not exist in bionic [02:30] i need help in setting up a atftpd server. thought that i understood how to use it but the client can't retrieve the file. i used atftpd --daemon - zenmap shows that it isn't running though [02:30] mathgrad: ^^ Bot is tellingan untruth >> "apt list nvidia-driver-430 >> nvidia-driver-430/bionic-updates 430.26-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 amd64" . do ' aptlist nvidia-driver-430 ' and see that the driver is there. [02:31] mathgrad: ** apt list nvidia-driver-430 [02:32] nothing [02:32] mathgrad: checking ! [02:33] nvidia-driver-430/disco 430.50-0ubuntu0.19.04.1~gpu0 amd64 [02:33] after adding the ppa [02:36] Bashing-om ^ [02:38] mathgrad: Odd that the 430 driver is not in disco. However, is the PPA source now availabale ' tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' . [02:39] no, should I comment it? [02:40] I mean uncomment it [02:40] mathgrad: Appears we do need that PPA source. If it is not there we will have to add the PPA. [02:40] it's there, just commented out. I uncommented it [02:41] Should I try installing it now? [02:41] mathgrad: Ho-kay ... with secure Boot disabled - run ' sudo ubuntu-drivers autoinstall '. [02:42] how do I make sure secure boot is disabled? [02:43] mathgrad: Newer systems are EFI ... and all implement the firmware differently _ I can not advise on what your firmware is. [02:44] https://pastebin.com/HZch21ez [02:46] that was with apt install nvidia-driver-430, same message for autoinstall except it references 435 packages [02:50] mathgrad: checking the PPA. [02:52] mathgrad: 435 version should also be fine - did the driver install ? [02:52] no [02:54] mathgrad: Then pastebin the output of the attempt - As it "should" have installed- we need to look at what the system reported. [02:57] one sec, brb [03:09] ok reverted, back [03:10] mathgrad: "nomodeset" still in effect ' cat /proc/cmdline ' ? [03:11] https://pastebin.com/JsViY2Ch [03:12] No, nomodeset is not in effect [03:13] ok 435 is iinstalling [03:13] will post log in a sec [03:14] wow something wrong, it's going 26kb/s [03:17] must be the server, speed test show normal speeds [03:17] this gonna take a while [03:17] from an ubuntu mirror? ya I see that too from canadian one [03:17] yeah launchpad.net [03:18] main one is full speed for me [03:18] well, ppa.launchpad.net [03:22] oof, 55min 24s [03:24] I'm surprised it's even working though [03:26] hmm it was just that package almost back to normal sped [03:37] Bashing-om no luck, got a black screen and had to remove the nvidia driver to get into desktop [03:39] the installation did indicate though I am not in secure boot [03:40] https://pastebin.com/7kps9REh [03:41] mathgrad: No way yet to tell - what shows ' /var/log/gpu-manager.log ' ? [03:41] https://pastebin.com/63rvjJ7v [03:42] wait could it be booting to my integrated card should i disable the intel graphics? [03:43] not sure if it's enabled but I should probably check [03:47] manhnt9: Optimus ! my initial request for info (lspci -k|grep -iEA5 'vga|3d') must not have been complete :( [03:48] Bashing-om: sorry? [03:49] manhnt9: sorry -bad highlight - one I meant to address left :( [03:50] Bashing-om: have we talked before? I don't understand. [03:51] manhnt9: No we have not conversed - I had meant toa ddress "mathgrad" and I failed to observe my tab completion :( [03:52] Bashing-om: ah OK, no problems [03:55] Bashing-om: ok so disabling integrated graphics allows nvidia to display the loading screen but doesn't actually boot the graphical logic [03:55] which is better than the black screen previously [03:55] gonna try 430 instead of 435 [03:56] did you see anything in the logs that might help? [03:57] mathgrad: with nouveau - all looked good. [03:58] going to try 430 will be back shortly [04:03] Kernel driver in use: nvidia success [04:03] So 435 is borked on a 1070 [04:04] that's bashing-om [04:04] thanks* [04:04] mathgrad: thats hard to believe [04:04] 435 is pretty latest driver [04:04] I couldn't get to a graphical login with it. I couldn't even get to a login with ctrl-alt-f2 [04:04] should work nice on GTX cards [04:05] but i'm running a deboostrap install with a weird zfs setup, not sure why that'd make a difference though [04:05] the normal installation usually is no problem but this has been an adventure [04:14] mathgrad: but its working on 430 now? [04:15] yeah [04:15] mathgrad: :D All's well that ends well. [04:16] mathgrad: didnt follow the origin thread, but what kind of errors did 435 give you? [04:17] Firstly it wouldn't show the boot/login on the nvidia card when integrated graphics were enabled. So I disabled that when I rebooted it shows the boot screen on the nvidia card but went black except the loading dots and wouldn't progress, purge 435 then installed 430 first boot with 430 it switched to showing the boot messages, ctrl-alt-f2 then ctrl-alt-f1 it shows graphical login [04:18] mathgrad: on GTX cards its normal to have a black screen without the nvidia driver installed, workarounded by nomodeset [04:19] nvidia 430 driver works perfectly for me. what did I miss? [04:19] mathgrad: but it surprises me 435 doesnt work on 1070 [04:19] 1060 here [04:20] doug16k: mathgrad says 435 is borked on his card [04:21] ah, it's an optimus laptop? [04:22] no, desktop with gtx 1070 [04:23] I very much doubt there is any measurable difference between 430 and 435 on 1070 [04:23] on 20xx, maybe [04:23] it is not in their business interest to make older cards go any faster [04:24] fixing major game malfunctions, sure [04:41] Hello all, I have an iphone that i have quite a bit of video on and I would like to put it on my ubuntu 18.04 pc. I am using shotwell because that is what came up by default. I am using shotwell to import it but it has been about 7 minutes and it is still at 0%. Do you think it just requires more time or is this not a workable action for file so big. The video is 22 minutes long It's taking up several gigs on my ipad and that is why I want [04:41] to remove it. Shotwell has no problem importing photos from my iphone. [04:42] jkoofer: first import your pics to your harddisk, then let shotwell import quicker [04:44] best hypervisor for a single VM running windows? [04:45] @lotuspsychje ironically it just completed it's import. It went from 0% to 100% instantaneously [04:45] Apparently it was importing but the load bar was not illustrating that. [04:48] mathgrad, qemu can be configured to give excellent performance. I remote desktop into it and use RemoteFX and get excellent performance [04:49] for visual studio that is. with qxl drivers installed on the guest you get autoresizing [04:58] is there a "tile all the windows" thing ? [04:59] !rootirc | Artemis37 [04:59] Artemis37: It's not technically our business, but we'd like to tell you that IRC'ing as root is a Very Bad Idea (tm). After all, doing anything as root when root is not needed is bad, and especially bad with software that connects to the Internet. [05:04] What's the shift key that if I hold it down for a few sec will bring up a window of all the hot keys? [05:05] CarlFK: all hotkeys are under gnome systemsettings/devices/keyboard [05:10] lotuspsychje: thanks [05:43] hi guys, given a PID what's the best way to get the PPID of it? [05:57] doug16k qemu seems nice [06:19] whats the latest ubuntu that using network/interfaces and not netplan [06:25] windows boots faster in qemu with a raidz2, ssd cache and log drives than bare metal [07:00] i see only bars not numbers in htop details . https://i.imgur.com/RN86ZY7.png [07:02] Maybe the color scheme of your terminal? [07:02] Try in xterm or rxvt. [07:02] ok i see that [07:03] It looks like they are slightly visible on your screenshot. [07:03] yeah [07:05] akemhp: thanks :) [07:05] Np. === mathgrad_ is now known as mathgrad === mathgrad_ is now known as mathgrad [08:32] Does anyone know why journaling of file systems is bad for SSD's? [08:34] That was advice from the very early days of SSDs when their lifespans were much shorter. [08:34] aiena it's old crappy advise, when SSDs were new and expensive, the idea was to reduce the amount of read/writes to extend the life of the SSD [08:35] even back then lifespans were in decades for commercial SSDs, I've always used journaling FSs [08:35] there is absolutely no doubt that it's completely fine to use a journaling fs like ext4 on any SSD released in the last 8 years or so [08:36] and the older ones are so small and slow in comparison that i'd be surprised you wanted to use one at all [08:37] here's an article from 10 years ago debunking the "wisdom" of the time that you should never put swap, journal etc on an SSD https://robert.penz.name/137/no-swap-partition-journaling-filesystem-on-a-ssd/ [08:40] hi [09:09] what's the right click atlternative for ubuntu 18.04 desktop? [09:12] juanonymous: the window button on the keyboard [09:13] or shift+ f10 [09:14] so i just need to point the mouse on the area where i have to perform then either use shift + f10 or window button [09:14] let me see [09:18] yep [09:18] thanks [09:24] Im struggling getting my script to run without root that edits a file owned by root. Adding both the script and the file to sudoers, the script is still not allowed to write to the file. Any ideas? === kostkon_ is now known as kostkon [09:31] flog: I’d say the permissions are derived from the user *running* the script. [09:31] vlt: it semes like it doesnt though [09:32] flog: Show us. [09:32] flog: can you change the permissions of the file, maybe add an acl so your user can write to it? it would be better than adding a script to sudoers [09:32] EriC^: that does work. but it reverts back to beeing owned by root after a reboot. [09:33] flog: which file is it? [09:33] /sys/class/backlight/amdgpu_bl0/brightness [09:33] flog: oh [09:33] flog: have you tried using "xbacklight" to change the brightness? it doesnt require root permissions [09:34] xbacklight returns "No outputs have backlight property" [09:34] But writing to the earlier mentioned file does change my backlight. [09:35] flog: ok paste the sudoers line you added [09:35] you're running the script via "sudo /path/to/script" right? [09:36] I can run that script without issues with sudo [09:36] so what's the problem [09:37] you want to run it without a passwd so it can be automated? [09:37] Give me a sec [09:37] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/4KcDrtngST/ [09:37] thats the script [09:37] ok [09:38] log ALL=(root) NOPASSWD:/usr/local/bin/t495-bl.sh [09:38] flog: or you could add a udev rule to set the GROUP/MODE on that node in sysfs [09:38] flog not log [09:38] TJ-: have not tried that approach [09:39] flog: so as the user log, if you type "sudo /usr/local...../bl.sh" it doesnt work? [09:41] EriC^: sudo t495-bl.sh works just fine. [09:41] flog: im confused, you said earlier adding it to sudoers doesnt allow to write [09:42] The script runs fine. [09:42] Well just a sec [09:43] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/jJj6ft9RKV/ [09:43] Im allowed to execute the script but the script is not allowed to write to the file. [09:44] flog: something like SUBSYSTEM=="amdgpu0_bl0",ACTION=="add|change",GROUP="sudo",MODE="0664" [09:45] after upgrading from disco to eoan the restart and shutdown buttons are grayed out. what could be the reason? [09:45] TJ-: in a new .rules file i assume. [09:45] the power manager says there is no authorization to shutdown: http://dpaste.com/197484T [11:44] [09:45] ERC> [09:45] flog: actually, no, SUBSYSTEM=="backlight",KERNEL=="amdgpu_bl0" ... [09:46] Never touched any udev stuff. [09:46] flog: yes, /etc/udev/rules.d/99-backlight-amd.rules maybe, with SUBSYSTEM=="backlight",KERNEL=="amdgpu_bl0",ACTION=="add|change",GROUP="sudo",MODE="0664" [09:47] single equalsign before "sudo"? [09:48] flog: you could even set the brightness by adding ATTR{brightness}="" [09:48] flog: yes, it's assignment whereas the preceeding are all tests of equality [09:48] same for mode? [09:48] flog: yes [09:49] Do i need to reload the rules to make it take affec [09:49] ~ [09:49] ~ t? [09:50] flog: it reads as If subsystem == backlight AND kernel (device) == amdgpu_bl0 AND action is 'add' OR 'change' THEN DO GROUP=sudo; MODE=664 [09:50] flog: you'd need to re-trigger the device discovery [09:51] I am probably doing something wrong since the script still fails. [09:51] flog: "udevadm trigger -t subsystem -s backlight" [09:51] *fails to write to the brightness fi [09:51] ~ [09:51] ~ le [09:51] ~ [09:51] ~ [09:51] Sorry for the random pastes... [09:51] oops, typo [09:52] flog: "udevadm trigger -t subsystems -s backlight" [09:54] TJ-: no change unfortunately... [09:54] flog: can you show me the .rules file ? [09:55] SUBSYSTEM=="backlight",KERNEL=="amdgpu_bl0",ACTION=="add|change",GROUP=="sudo", MODE=="0644" [09:59] flog: OK, tested it here, and trigger isn't triggering this rule (I added RUN+="/usr/bin/touch /tmp/backlight" to create a tell-tale file) [09:59] flog: so maybe it would work on a boot but trigger needs additional/different command-line options [10:00] Ill try a reboot [10:00] flog: indeed that is the case; adding the verbose option to list devices that'd be triggered doesn't list any: "sudo udevadm trigger -v -t subsystems -s backlight " [10:01] So in my backlight rules file ill add the RUN+= at the top? [10:01] flog: hang on! go it [10:01] oh? [10:01] use this instead: "sudo udevadm trigger -v -s backlight" [10:02] flog: the rule (i am testing with) here isn't firing though so it needs tweaking in some way [10:03] Well i guess the trigger worked since it spat out the path to amdgpu[Flogpad:flog:1] [/etc/udev/rules.d] [10:03] i also need to do something about my trackpad randomly pasting crap. [10:08] flog: I'm trying to figure it out here with an intel_backlight node... still not got the rule to fire (no tell-tale file created) [10:08] Maybe i should take a different approach. [10:09] the whole reason for me doing this is that the defuault scripts and tutorials online for controlling backlight in i3 didnt work. [10:09] So i managed to hack together the erlier mentioned script. [10:10] However if i login on the default desktop environment the hotkeys works just fine. But i have no idea what script/program is triggered by the hotkeys. [10:10] If i could find out what the default DE uses maybe i could use that instead. [10:10] flog: yeah... the 'best' way is via udev but it can take some messing to get it to work. As a FYI, I have in a separate shell "udevadm monitor -upk -s backlight" so I can see the events being generated when triggering [10:12] flog: AHA! there's a bug in .rules. I removed the GROUP/MODE and RUN+= fires the touch [10:14] Sorry but i am completely lost now. What do i need to change? === dijitol1 is now known as dijitol [10:18] flog: I've found someone else dealing with the same issue, and a solution, hang on and I'll give you a new .rules file to use [10:18] Cool, thanks! === dijitol1 is now known as dijitol [10:23] flog: I'm looking at the last reply in this question, but with intel_backlight, I'm not being able to set the group/mode in that way but the tell-tale file is touched, so it is possible my system doesn't behave the same way as AMD may do. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/459874/udev-doesnt-want-to-run-chgrp-and-chmod [10:23] hi, i am new to linux, I have installed 19.4 on to my Lenovo MIIX 320 and I can# [10:25] hi, i am new to linux, I have installed 19.4 on to my Lenovo MIIX 320 and the screen is allways 90 degrees to the left rotated [10:25] flog: a question. Are you sure the device name has a lower-case L in it, or could it be a ONE? "amdgpu_bl0" in your info above but in the link I gave you it shows ..._b10 (so Bl0 or B10) ? [10:25] can anyone help me with it? [10:26] could someone help me solve my mounting problems? i got an .img with 3 partitions, trying to mount the 2nd like 'sudo mount -o offset=1001470 /home/noudle/disk-drive-virtio0.raw.img /tmp/mount' but i get 'failed to setup loop device for /home/noudle/disk-drive-virtio0.raw.img.' [10:26] TJ-: it is a lowercase L. [10:26] flog: OK... so not that then! [10:28] Still wont allow the script to write to the brightnessfile. [10:28] Im about to give up. [10:28] Feel a bit bad about it since you've put so much time into trying to help me :/ [10:28] flog: it is weird [10:30] flog: the commands work manually so I suspect those files within the device node aren't (re)created at the point our commands run [10:31] But isnt it strange that both sudoers and udev doesnt work? [10:33] flog: using sudoers how is it not working, when you did sudo it didnt give a permissions denied [10:35] flog: almost have it working, just tidying it up for you now [10:36] EriC^: the script runs, but no permission to edit the target file. with sudo(manually in terminal) the script keeps permission to edit target file. [10:37] flog: and it works... pushing to a pastebin now [10:37] TJ-: you are ace! [10:41] flog: I'm setting the group to "video" since that is more appropriate (use "adduser $USER video") to allow users to adjust brightness. Here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zsn9Yh9ccP/ [10:42] here it causes: -rw-rw-r-- 1 root video 4096 Sep 29 11:19 /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness [10:44] flog: obviously you need "sudo chmod +x /usr/local/bin/backlight.sh" too [10:45] the script is already executable [10:45] Hello I would like to give chromium which was installed via snap only permissions to ~/Downloads. Is this possible. I see that snap connections says home chromium:home :home manual but how can I change the settings. [10:47] TJ-: so how this is supposed to work is to modify the permissions for the backlight file when something want to edit it? or is it a permanent permission change? [10:48] is there any possibility to put command xrandr -o right into a boot file? my Lenovo Miix 320 starts everytime with the screen rotated to left [10:48] flog: permanent. It'll operate on boot and set the perms so anyone in 'video' group can write to 'brightness' -- if you want change that to 'sudo' in the script's chgrp of course [10:49] but running udevadm trigger will read all rules and apply them without having to reboot? [10:49] !info iio-sensor-proxy | zuzka_ sorry, meant to give you this hint earlier. It handles things like accelerometers and can handle rotations [10:49] zuzka_ sorry, meant to give you this hint earlier. It handles things like accelerometers and can handle rotations: iio-sensor-proxy (source: iio-sensor-proxy): IIO sensors to D-Bus proxy. In component main, is optional. Version 2.4-2 (bionic), package size 45 kB, installed size 191 kB (Only available for linux-any) [10:50] zuzka_: but I believe your issue is something to be fixed in systemd. I patched systemd for this on another device some time ago, I'll find the link to it [10:50] TJ-: doesnt look like im in the video group [10:50] thank you [10:51] zuzka_: this was what I had to do: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/10554#pullrequestreview-169283317 [10:52] flog: ahhh... usually the 1st user gets added to that and others... or maybe that's just on my network! [10:52] flog: well, use 'sudo' then :) [10:52] thank you very much TJ [10:53] zuzka_: the challenge is figuring out the correct matrix, as in the ACCEL_MOUNT_MATRIX= [10:53] TJ-: the issue is that I'm running the script from i3 on hotkeys. [10:53] Easiest wolud just be for me to chmod the file every time im rebooting manually [10:53] flog: so make the user a member of video group then the script doesn't need sudo perms [10:55] Maybe i dont even have a video grop [10:55] flog: "getent group video" [10:56] flog: it should be a system group, probably 44 [10:56] Hm im in that one. [10:57] flog: OK but if you only just added yourself to it, it requires a log-out/log-in to take affect, compare "groups" (what you're in right now) with "groups $USER" (what the system has you listed in) [10:57] brb relogging [11:01] tj, i think this is a bit too difficult for me as i have only been using linux for about 7 days. Is there no option to write a script with xrandr command and execute that script at startup? [11:02] TJ-: the udev rule does not seem to be triggered :/ [11:03] TJ-: i give up for now. but thank you for your effort in trying to solve this for me. [11:04] flog: that seems weird ... the only reason would be if some other udev rule is over-riding it [11:05] zuzka_: is that on gnome your screen starts rotated? [11:05] flog: originally I included in the .rules file the tell-tale to be sure the rule triggered, as in ,RUN+="/bin/touch /tmp/backlight" AND in the .sh I removed the comment in front of the 'ls' that writes the current details to /tmp/bl.log so I could be sure both udev and script were working [11:06] zuzka_: which way do you need to rotate? I may be able to help you determin the correct hwdb entry [11:07] lotuspsychje yes [11:07] TJ to the right [11:07] zuzka_: another idea, could be comparing with unity desktop, see if that boots normally [11:09] lotuspsychje: it's a udev/hwdb issue since the display is installed incorrectly (orientation wise) [11:10] TJ-: think unity would do the same in his case then? [11:11] lotuspsychje: nothing to do with the GUI [11:11] kk [11:11] we can compensate using a stop-gap xrandr command but the fix is in the udev/hwdb [11:11] zuzka_: can you show us "pastebinit <( journalctl -k )" [11:13] zuzka_: Here i have a local over-ride which we might be able to create for you [11:16] So I'm having a stupid problem. I use my ubuntut machine roughly once a week. And everytime I use it FSTRIM starts and the machine is incredibly sluggish and slow. What could be a solution to this problem? Thanks. [11:16] !trim | kjartan_ [11:16] kjartan_: Many Solid State Drives support TRIM, which allows the drive to do garbage collection and improves performance. Ubuntu 14.04 activates it by default. For older versions, see http://askubuntu.com/a/19480 for information on activating it. [11:17] kjartan_: there's a systemd unit "fstrim.service" which presumably is being started [11:18] TJ-, lotuspsychje, yes thanks. I think I don't want to disable it, just make it run slower ...? It's hogging 99.9% of the disk while running. [11:19] kjartan_: I'd presume fstrim.service is triggered by its timer, see "systemctl cat fstrim.timer" [11:21] TJ-, Yes, it's running weekly. Just as I suspected. [11:23] kjartan_: you might be able to enhance that with an OnBootSec= or RandomizedDelaySec= [11:24] kjartan_: I *think* adding an OnBootSec=3600 would effectively be ANDed with the OnCalendar= so you'd have an hour :) [11:26] TJ-, That's excellent! It's just really annoying the first 5 minutes of boot and initializing the system, makes every time I sign in very slow. OnBootSec=600 it is. [11:26] TJ-, thank you. [11:29] kjartan_: in which case something like : sudo mkdir /etc/systemd/system/fstrim.timer.d; echo -e "[Timer]\nOnBootSec=3600" | sudo tee /etc/systemd/system/fstrim.timer.d/local.conf [11:30] TJ-, oh. I just edited the file directly. Your suggestion would be better when/if it for some reason is being patched by apt? [11:31] kjartan_: this way you don't alter package-installed files and you only write the changes you want to make which makes it easier to reason with later when you've forgotten all about it [11:31] TJ-, smart. [11:32] kjartan_: see "man 5 systemd.unit" and "Example 2. Overriding vendor settings" [11:33] kjartan_: specifically the last option "Alternatively, the administrator could create a drop-in file ..." [11:37] TJ-, yes I see. Very practical. [11:45] Hey folks === lotus|i5 is now known as lotuspsychje [12:08] I face this "https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nZyr6PgjQx/" when I want to update , my repo list is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wSpj4Sgy5W/ [12:09] Hey Guys, I'm running a ubuntu server on in a virtualbox environment. Somehow the disk (10GB) is out of the sudden full... do you have an idea how I can find where this diskspace is used and how to clean up? [12:09] pabed - debian is not ubuntu, uses toy story characters as releases, and there is no 'Bionic' toy-story character, it's a Ubuntu release, not a debian release [12:10] guiverc: what should I do ? [12:11] pabed: deepakdeshp? [12:11] pabed, I would remove the debian line; but I don't know the reason why you added it [12:11] also a line with ubuntu xenial [12:12] yes the xenial should be changed to bionic - IF you are using bionic [12:13] I just tired to remove an old kernel (hdd full), but unfortunately I need free space on the hdd to remove that... does anyone has an idea how to get that space? [12:13] I don't know where all that space is used... [12:17] there was hetzner repo and I didn't install docker and I removed it and replace https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nZyr6PgjQx/ [12:24] i don't know how removing a kernel would require disk space Autchirion, if you're using a file manager, maybe your wastebasket is full [12:24] try to remove things with apt, for example apt autoremove removes out of date deb packages [12:33] humpled I tried apt-get autoremove already [12:33] and I did sudo apt-get remove linux-image-[version]-generic [12:34] Autchirion: try removing the files from /var/cache/apt/archive [12:35] it is empty [12:36] Autchirion: any thing in you Downloads folder that isn't needed? [12:36] no, I don't think so, I don't even have a download folder [12:37] Autchirion, sudo du -haxd1 / | sort -h [12:38] swap.img 2gb [12:38] I don't think that's something out of the ordinary [12:39] var has 4.5GB [12:40] Autchirion, sudo du -haxd1 /var/log/journal | sort -h [12:40] yes, I did that [12:40] ah, my bad [12:40] missread [12:40] 417MB [12:41] for /var/log/journal and one /var/log/journal/[random letters and numbers] [12:41] Autchirion, trim the journal maybe ? ; sudo journalctl --vacuum-time=2d [12:42] 200MB disk space free, let's see if I can start working with that [12:42] Autchirion, and remove swap if needed [12:43] still can't remove the kernels [12:43] Autchirion, can you paste dpkg -l | grep linux-image [12:43] sure, rebooting right now, give me a sec [12:44] Autchirion: what apps do you use in the vm? [12:44] why rebooting .... [12:44] You can use an app calle filelight to see usage [12:44] maybe the tmp folder is full from say browser cache [12:44] I only use bitwarden in this VM [12:44] called [12:45] does bitwarden create temp files? [12:45] hmm that looks like a password manager its highly unlikely [12:45] use filelight its pretty weird that your out of space [12:45] yes, it is a password manager [12:46] the server for it... [12:46] @ioria output: https://ibb.co/8DGN5Qy [12:46] sorry, copy paste doesn't work in the VM [12:46] hmm you could use filelight to investigate the cause [12:47] just 4 kernels, not sure it's the issue [12:47] try clearing browser cahce etc and see if makes a difference [12:47] filelight requires a setup? if so, I don't know how to install it... [12:47] it's a windows server terminal only... [12:47] apt-get install filelight [12:47] there is no browser [12:47] its an ununtu package afaik what DE are you using for the ubuntu u have [12:47] yes, but without space on the HDD I can't install a programm... [12:47] there maybe a gnome alternative swhich uses gtk [12:48]