| Eickmeyer | Agreed. | 00:00 |
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| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: The qjackctl systray/notifier item is messed up again. The icon doesn't display, and the menu either... | 14:41 |
| Eickmeyer | How did that happen?!? | 14:41 |
| OvenWerks | I guess we need to add more of it's functionality to controls | 14:42 |
| OvenWerks | I would guess either Rui has changed something or xfce has. | 14:42 |
| OvenWerks | ... or the lib that both rely on has | 14:42 |
| Eickmeyer | Strange. I don't see any problems on my end. Did you remember to select "enable system tray icon"? | 14:43 |
| OvenWerks | https://i.imgur.com/CEu7Zm5.png | 14:44 |
| OvenWerks | That triangle is qjackctl | 14:44 |
| Eickmeyer | I don't see that here. Can't reproduce. I have the standard qjackctl icon. | 14:45 |
| OvenWerks | this is 19.10 BTW | 14:45 |
| Eickmeyer | Same. | 14:45 |
| OvenWerks | hm. I didn't change the icon theme | 14:46 |
| Eickmeyer | I literally just tried it myself without issue. You /might/ have to go into qt5ct and select an icon theme. | 14:46 |
| Eickmeyer | (it might not be selected) | 14:46 |
| Eickmeyer | If that's the case, I'll fix the defaults file. | 14:47 |
| OvenWerks | That didn't change anything and besides the menu doesn't work either | 14:48 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, then there's something weird on your end. I can't reproduce. | 14:49 |
| OvenWerks | maybe after a reboot... | 14:50 |
| Eickmeyer | The system I'm on is a fresh install. | 14:53 |
| OvenWerks | This too | 14:53 |
| OvenWerks | Yuck, something new... some of the icons fade to BG colour if they have no mouse over. | 14:55 |
| Eickmeyer | Again, that's weird. I can't reproduce that. | 14:55 |
| OvenWerks | So I set up a second panel (on right display) and add items. Some of them can't be seen till I mouse over then they show. | 14:56 |
| OvenWerks | I thought maybe they went dark so I changed the panel BG colour... but no they fade | 14:57 |
| Eickmeyer | I do know xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin has a strange bug where it won't show the proper volume level until you mouseover it, but I can't see any issues on the other side. | 14:57 |
| OvenWerks | Try adding "Directory menu" to your panel. | 14:57 |
| OvenWerks | The audio indicator? it seems fine here. The mute or on off button to the side of the level control is... ugly or out of place or something | 14:59 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok, for the directory menu, I can see the problem with the dark icon, but once the menu is open no issues whatsoever. That's just a side-effect of having a dark panel with that icon theme. THe indicator icons have zero issues. | 15:01 |
| Eickmeyer | Not ideal, but there's nothing we can do about it. | 15:01 |
| OvenWerks | I know it is a design choice, but really, I need to see the icon before I get to it not after... how else do I know where it is? | 15:02 |
| Eickmeyer | Can probably file a bug against the papirus icon theme. | 15:03 |
| OvenWerks | It is not just dark, I tried making the panel background a light grey and the icon is still just as hard to see. | 15:03 |
| OvenWerks | Oh hey, that sweird... problem solved | 15:04 |
| Eickmeyer | O_o | 15:04 |
| * Eickmeyer blames xfce 4.14 now. | 15:04 | |
| OvenWerks | when I changed the background back to None (use system theme) the problem went away | 15:04 |
| Eickmeyer | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ | 15:05 |
| OvenWerks | I can see my icons now. | 15:06 |
| Eickmeyer | \o/ | 15:06 |
| OvenWerks | reboot to see if qjackctl behaves nicer | 15:06 |
| OvenWerks | Hmm, the qjackctl icon is right, but it still has no left click menu | 15:09 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, I can't reproduce that. Very odd. | 15:09 |
| OvenWerks | re lsp plugins - lsp-plugins-ladspa.so gives undefines symbol | 15:15 |
| OvenWerks | There are a whole pile of vst errors too. | 15:16 |
| Eickmeyer | That's reallly weird. I can't reproduce that. | 15:17 |
| OvenWerks | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tFDGxRBqbR/ | 15:18 |
| OvenWerks | basically that is what showed up in Ardour in the plugin scan | 15:18 |
| Eickmeyer | Again, very odd. I'm not seeing that at all. | 15:19 |
| Eickmeyer | I've used Ardour and lsp-plugins several times over the past few days. | 15:20 |
| OvenWerks | It only scans plugins if you ask it to. there are no errors on sedcond start (they are probably already blacklisted :) | 15:21 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok, looking at that those plugins aren't meant to be run outside of a plugin host or the standalone clients. | 15:23 |
| Eickmeyer | So, expected. | 15:23 |
| OvenWerks | the carla rack does show up inside so that is ok. | 15:23 |
| Eickmeyer | Yes, as it should. | 15:24 |
| Eickmeyer | My clue is that not every LSP plugin was having difficulty in your log. Just the select few. I mean, it's about 90 plugins in total. | 15:25 |
| OvenWerks | Ya, but none of the ladspa versions show up at all in the plugin selector. | 15:26 |
| Eickmeyer | Screw the ladspa versions. Am I right? | 15:26 |
| Eickmeyer | Those are just there for lmms as far as I'm concerned. | 15:26 |
| OvenWerks | jsut want to see if they work in lmms | 15:26 |
| Eickmeyer | ok | 15:26 |
| OvenWerks | I see no lsp plugins in lmms | 15:28 |
| OvenWerks | no errors either | 15:29 |
| Eickmeyer | Hmmmm..... | 15:29 |
| Eickmeyer | I'd bug report that to the developer. I worked with him on the packaging, and it doesn't build outside of any defaults. | 15:29 |
| Eickmeyer | I can't check to reproduce right now, though. | 15:30 |
| OvenWerks | can you run qtracktor? | 15:30 |
| OvenWerks | I have blank menus | 15:31 |
| Eickmeyer | qtracktor runs fine, no blank menus. | 15:35 |
| OvenWerks | I am going to remove and reinstall it. | 15:35 |
| OvenWerks | it sounds like the same problem as for qjackctl | 15:35 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah. Seems like the qt problems I was having (the reason I included qt5ct was to circumvent these problems). | 15:36 |
| OvenWerks | kdenlive is fine | 15:37 |
| Eickmeyer | kdenlive uses the KDE Frameworks, so not much surprise there. | 15:38 |
| OvenWerks | reinstalling qtracktor does not grab any extra libs... | 15:38 |
| OvenWerks | still bad. It is like the items are there but I can't see them. | 15:39 |
| Eickmeyer | Did you run qt5ct? | 15:39 |
| Eickmeyer | I'm just curious. | 15:40 |
| OvenWerks | I did... but I did not make any changes | 15:40 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok, try to make a change and see what it does. | 15:40 |
| OvenWerks | I can see menus | 15:41 |
| OvenWerks | Oh I can hear myself type too... (just added a qtracktor track | 15:41 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok, so that tells me qt5ct is the problem. *sigh* | 15:42 |
| Eickmeyer | Might be something I need to work on in the seed. | 15:42 |
| OvenWerks | still no menu for qjcakctl indicator. | 15:42 |
| Eickmeyer | And -default-settings. | 15:42 |
| Eickmeyer | Xfce might have to be restarted (or qjackctl) to get the menu for that. | 15:42 |
| Eickmeyer | qt5ct doesn't make changes to running apps, unfortunately. | 15:43 |
| OvenWerks | I started qjackctl after and the change did show up in the running qtractor | 15:43 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok, that tells me theres things that still need to be tweaked. I'll try to fix that today. Could you do a bug report against ubuntustudio-default-settings and add ubuntustudio-meta to it? Just do it from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-default-settings | 15:47 |
| Eickmeyer | I might be removing qt5ct from the seed. | 15:48 |
| OvenWerks | I changed the theme from windows to Fusion | 15:48 |
| Eickmeyer | Default theme for qt5ct should be gtk2. | 15:49 |
| OvenWerks | style sorry | 15:49 |
| Eickmeyer | The style, I mean. | 15:49 |
| OvenWerks | There are only two styles: windows and fusion | 15:49 |
| Eickmeyer | Make sure that qt5-style-plugins is installed (maybe I omitted that from the seed). | 15:51 |
| OvenWerks | not there | 15:51 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok, there's the bug. File the bug against meta then, it's not a default-settings issue. I know what needs to be done. | 15:52 |
| Eickmeyer | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta | 15:52 |
| Eickmeyer | I forgot to include that package. | 15:52 |
| Eickmeyer | Much easier bug to fix than -default-settings. | 15:53 |
| OvenWerks | What should I label the bug? | 15:54 |
| OvenWerks | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntustudio-meta/+bug/1845857 | 15:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1845857 in ubuntustudio-meta (Ubuntu) "qt5-style-plugins is missing" [Undecided,New] | 15:56 |
| Eickmeyer | That works. | 15:56 |
| Eickmeyer | I'll fix later today. | 15:56 |
| OvenWerks | whenever | 15:59 |
| OvenWerks | there is still no alsa-tools icon | 16:04 |
| Eickmeyer | That's a known bug in hicolor, I thought. | 16:05 |
| OvenWerks | could be, but we could either add our own icon or... file a bug with the right package ... and maybe supply an icon. | 16:06 |
| OvenWerks | alsa-tools should include the icon | 16:07 |
| Eickmeyer | Agreed, but it doesn't. Having our own icon would work too. | 16:08 |
| OvenWerks | huh, alsa tools does not supply the desktop files either | 16:08 |
| OvenWerks | Where do those come from? | 16:08 |
| Eickmeyer | cd /usr/share/Applications | 16:09 |
| Eickmeyer | oops... wrong window | 16:10 |
| OvenWerks | Yes I remember now. they changed the icons | 16:10 |
| Eickmeyer | Ah. | 16:10 |
| OvenWerks | but did not change the desktop files to match. | 16:11 |
| Eickmeyer | dpkg -S tells you which package provided a particular file. | 16:11 |
| OvenWerks | alsa-tools-gui | 16:11 |
| Eickmeyer | Ok, so they didn't fix that bug. | 16:11 |
| OvenWerks | I am not sure where upstream would be for that | 16:12 |
| OvenWerks | but it probably wasn't fixed because upstream hasn't | 16:12 |
| OvenWerks | we could add one anyway... It seems to me it ends up being used as sort of a default for other packages as well | 16:19 |
| Eickmeyer | Hmmm.... should the icon go in -icon-theme or -menu? | 16:20 |
| OvenWerks | we added /usr/share/pixmaps/ffado.xpm at some point. I think it could be removed | 16:22 |
| OvenWerks | ffado mixer has it's own icon now | 16:22 |
| Eickmeyer | OK, we could remove that. | 16:23 |
| Eickmeyer | If we want this to change before 19.10 final, we need bug reports, though. | 16:24 |
| OvenWerks | that file doesnt have to be removed right now. but adding alsa-tools would be good which package do we want to bug? | 16:25 |
| OvenWerks | -menu would make sense | 16:25 |
| OvenWerks | (to me) | 16:25 |
| OvenWerks | we don't install -menu :) | 16:26 |
| OvenWerks | where did we move that to? | 16:26 |
| Eickmeyer | Uh... we do install menu. I have it installed right now. | 16:27 |
| Eickmeyer | sudo apt search ubuntustudio-menu shows it installed. | 16:27 |
| Eickmeyer | Go ahead and file it against -menu. It probably just needs a symlink. | 16:28 |
| Eickmeyer | To the alsa-tools ico. | 16:28 |
| Eickmeyer | *icon | 16:29 |
| OvenWerks | there is no alsa-tools icon but that could be a symlink to almost any utility icon emblem-system for example. | 16:37 |
| OvenWerks | like a setup icon | 16:39 |
| Eickmeyer | I'll see what I can find. | 16:39 |
| OvenWerks | preferences-activities, utilities-tweak-tool I am not sure which packages these came from but there shouold be a generic setup icon that would work that comes with the basic icon set all ubuntu flavours use | 16:46 |
| OvenWerks | the hicolor package only installs directories :P | 16:50 |
| Eickmeyer | I'm notiing a lot of it comes from the elementary icon themes. There should be more, though. | 16:55 |
| Eickmeyer | I'll keep investigating. | 16:55 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: I just pushed and uploaded a fix for the icons and for the missing qt5-style-plugins. Awaiting release team approval since we're after beta freeze. | 19:45 |
| Eickmeyer | I don't see why they wouldn't approve it | 19:45 |
| Eickmeyer | Especially considering the bug fixes. | 19:46 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: ok | 19:49 |
| OvenWerks | Normally nothing is said about any tweaks to flavour packages... | 19:50 |
| OvenWerks | But something that keeps menu from showing is a hard bug anyway. | 19:51 |
| Eickmeyer | Exactly. I honestly can't believe I omitted that package from the seed. | 19:52 |
| Eickmeyer | I also have a FFe/Sync Request for obs-studio which is a version newer in Sid, surprisingly. | 19:53 |
| Eickmeyer | Vorlon had already mentioned it was a sensible request, so it'll probably get the green light. | 19:54 |
| OvenWerks | cool | 19:54 |
| OvenWerks | there has been another spin... | 20:07 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, but this stuff isn't going to land in it. | 20:08 |
| Eickmeyer | It has to be approved by the release team. | 20:09 |
| OvenWerks | I know | 20:20 |
| OvenWerks | might be other stuff | 20:20 |
| OvenWerks | Eickmeyer: if you see drmacro on line, I would like to take to him. I have some more ideas (did some more reading) | 20:29 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Ok, I'll keep an eye out. | 20:30 |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: Unrelated, new systemd dropped and broke Ubiquity: bug 184573 | 20:39 |
| ubottu | bug 184573 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "nautilus crashed with SIGSEGV" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184573 | 20:39 |
| Eickmeyer | Oops, wrong bug. | 20:39 |
| * OvenWerks gave up on Nautilus long ago. | 20:39 | |
| Eickmeyer | OvenWerks: bug 1845730 | 20:40 |
| ubottu | bug 1845730 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity crashed with FileNotFoundError in _execute_child(): [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/sbin/udevadm': '/sbin/udevadm'" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845730 | 20:40 |
| Eickmeyer | I accidentally a digit. | 20:40 |
| OvenWerks | systemd... does that mean we need to check if we still have memlock? | 20:40 |
| Eickmeyer | No, that bug is fixed and not likely to regress. | 20:41 |
| OvenWerks | I guess we should check that anyway | 20:41 |
| Eickmeyer | Basically, the Ubiquity installer is broken. So, new images won't install until that bug is fixed. | 20:41 |
| OvenWerks | ok | 20:41 |
| OvenWerks | we had two people do upgrades from 19.04 to 19.10 that failed BTW | 20:42 |
| Eickmeyer | Yeah, not sure why. | 20:42 |
| OvenWerks | I am wondering if ubuntustudio-backports was enabled | 20:43 |
| OvenWerks | and if that could cause it | 20:43 |
| Eickmeyer | That's a possiblity, in which case ppa-purge needs to be used to get rid of it and downgrade the packages to the repo version. | 20:43 |
| Eickmeyer | That's what I had to do. I successfully upgraded an install with it. | 20:44 |
| Eickmeyer | but only after ppa-purge. | 20:44 |
| OvenWerks | might be worthwhile having a wiki page to point to for upgrades with a step by step | 20:46 |
| Eickmeyer | It's already in the Backports PPA release notes as well as the PPA page itself. | 20:47 |
| Eickmeyer | !ubuntustudio-backports | 20:47 |
| ubottu | The Ubuntu Studio Backports PPA is required for users of Ubuntu Studio to receive LTS support for Ubuntu Studio 18.04, and for #ubuntustudio to support users of Ubuntu 18.04 LTS and its flavors using !jack. For more info, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/BackportsPPA, !ubuntustudio-controls, and !ubuntustudio-installer | 20:47 |
| Eickmeyer | I can also add it to the release notes. | 20:47 |
| OvenWerks | when doing an upgrade I would be looking for documentation on upgrading rather than PPAs | 20:48 |
| Eickmeyer | Then it'll be in the release notes. That said, because it's beta, they are already warned that there are likely to be issues. | 20:50 |
| OvenWerks | :) | 20:51 |
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