| wonko | tomreyn: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/tQnJqYCQbq/ <-- ipmitool sel list | 00:22 |
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| tomreyn | wonko: broken fan, eh? | 00:26 |
| tomreyn | apparently the log's not running full, though ;) | 00:27 |
| wonko | Which fan is broken? I haven't looked at the output yet. | 00:49 |
| wonko | It looks like all the fans go critical low at some point? | 00:52 |
| tomreyn | hmm yes, either they're all past their lifetime and full of dirt or the firmware is just too dedicated to tracking their states | 00:56 |
| wonko | I'll go for the latter | 01:01 |
| wonko | they are all clean as of checking recently | 01:02 |
| wonko | ok, getting ready to do a fresh install | 01:02 |
| wonko | I'm done screwing with this. | 01:02 |
| wonko | if the zpool will ever export. Sheesh! | 01:03 |
| kinghat | so this is talking about being on kubuntu but im talking about installing the backports while on ubuntu 19.10. | 01:12 |
| kinghat | https://kubuntu.org/news/plasma-5-16-90-plasma-5-17-beta-available-for-testing/ | 01:12 |
| kinghat | via: ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports and apt install kubuntu-desktop | 01:12 |
| tomreyn | oh you're asking about a flavour specific PPA. i guess you'd seek support with this in the flavor channel, so #kubuntu | 01:13 |
| kinghat | im just talking about getting most recent plasma on most recent ubuntu | 01:14 |
| dax | the most recent ubuntu is 19.04. 19.10 comes out next month, it's not stable yet | 01:14 |
| kinghat | tried 19.10 with kubuntu-ppa/backports but i got: https://paste.debian.net/1103328/ | 01:15 |
| kinghat | right. i just figured i would test out the beta | 01:15 |
| dax | and yes, the kubuntu backports PPA only gets packages for versions supported by Kubuntu, so not the current devel release | 01:16 |
| kinghat | so maybe i have to do: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/beta && sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade -y instead. | 01:16 |
| kinghat | though thats not backports so not sure it would work? | 01:17 |
| dax | possibly. #kubuntu is more likely to know, since it's that team that maintains those PPAs | 01:17 |
| kinghat | alright thanks. | 01:18 |
| dax | that /beta PPA does have eoan builds, at least | 01:18 |
| kinghat | ya im just not sure how different that is from using the regular backports and doing: apt install kubuntu-desktop from it. | 01:19 |
| OerHeks | backports from what? there is no 20.04 yet. | 02:06 |
| kinghat | ? | 02:13 |
| kinghat | it has to be a .04 release to get backports? | 02:13 |
| valorie | backports generally means that the newest stuff is going into the next release, but some stuff will be "backported" to the present release | 02:14 |
| valorie | or to the last LTS | 02:14 |
| valorie | security stuff always is | 02:14 |
| kinghat | i just want to follow ubuntu .04/.10 release cycle for faster updates and bring the newest plasma to it. | 02:15 |
| valorie | right | 02:18 |
| valorie | and this time around, backports did that for you | 02:18 |
| valorie | and the beta ppa even got you the beta | 02:18 |
| valorie | see kubuntu.org/news for more indepth info | 02:19 |
| kinghat | i havent done anything yet. i installed 19.10 in a vm and tried to install the backports but got this error: https://paste.debian.net/1103328/ | 02:19 |
| OerHeks | lolz | 02:20 |
| kinghat | so i figured id ask around | 02:20 |
| lotuspsychje | oO | 02:22 |
| kinghat | o? | 02:22 |
| kinghat | 🤷 | 02:22 |
| valorie | there are no backports for 19.10 | 02:26 |
| valorie | there is nothing to backport | 02:26 |
| valorie | 20.04 hasn't started yet | 02:26 |
| valorie | as dax said above | 02:27 |
| valorie | 19.10 isn't even released | 02:27 |
| valorie | there will be no backports or beta for that matter in it for maybe a month or two | 02:27 |
| kinghat | so as soon at 19.10 is released there wont be backports for it? | 02:31 |
| lotuspsychje | what are you trying to get exactly kinghat | 02:31 |
| valorie | not until 20.04 is set up, and the toolchain is done | 02:32 |
| kinghat | i just want to follow ubuntu .04/.10 release cycle for faster updates and bring the newest plasma to it. | 02:32 |
| valorie | watch the website | 02:32 |
| kinghat | newest ubuntu and newest plasma | 02:32 |
| valorie | when exciting stuff is in backports, we'll talk about it | 02:32 |
| lotuspsychje | kinghat: you want to be at edge and have the newest of the newest at all times? | 02:32 |
| valorie | everywhere | 02:32 |
| kinghat | im on neon right now, which is awesome, but id like to follow the faster ubuntu release cycle. | 02:33 |
| lotuspsychje | kinghat: if you are ok with system breakage, you could enable proposed? | 02:34 |
| OerHeks | oke, then enjoy the show with 19.10 beta | 02:34 |
| lotuspsychje | kinghat: testing is your purpose i hope? | 02:34 |
| kinghat | at this point im just trying to see it in a vm. | 02:35 |
| lotuspsychje | just keep in mind, proposed is not very reccomended if you want stable | 02:36 |
| kinghat | i wouldnt mind 19.04 with newest plasma via backports but when 19.04 upgrades to 19.10 i dont know what will happen to the plasma install? | 02:36 |
| lotuspsychje | kinghat: why do you keep mention backports, whats your benefit with it exactly? | 02:37 |
| kinghat | nothing other than this article: https://www.linuxbabe.com/ubuntu/install-kde-plasma-5-7-ubuntu-16-04-ubuntu-16-10 | 02:38 |
| valorie | I suggest sticking with Kubuntu.org/news and perhaps #kubuntu-devel in IRC | 02:40 |
| valorie | the tut you cite is *not* supported by the neon team | 02:41 |
| valorie | or the kubuntu team | 02:41 |
| valorie | you break something, you get to keep all the pieces | 02:42 |
| lotuspsychje | and the backport line, mentions LTS with 19.10 is not | 02:42 |
| lotuspsychje | wich | 02:42 |
| kinghat | i know it says you should use backports then | 02:43 |
| kinghat | thats why i was saying backports | 02:43 |
| lotuspsychje | i would approach it the way valorie says | 02:44 |
| lotuspsychje | the (k)ubuntu way | 02:44 |
| valorie | you can run kubuntu (in a VM) that follows our CI which is even more bleeding edge than running proposed | 02:45 |
| valorie | but really, testing when we ask for testing is the most useful | 02:45 |
| valorie | stuff in proposed often gets pulled and replaced, for instance | 02:45 |
| kinghat | i dont need to be bleeding edge i just want to be on the non LTS cadence. the faster one, whatever thats called. | 02:45 |
| valorie | which is what I do | 02:46 |
| valorie | I'm on the beta Plasma right now | 02:46 |
| valorie | when it is released, I'll purge the beta | 02:46 |
| valorie | and upgrade to 19.10 probably | 02:47 |
| kinghat | 19.04 would auto upgrade to 19.10? | 02:47 |
| Gargoyle | Hi all. | 07:02 |
| Gargoyle | My settings button has vanished from the main "top right" menu... Is this known? where's the best place to report it? | 07:05 |
| Gargoyle | OK. NM! | 07:47 |
| Gargoyle | gnome-control-center got removed. Apparently it has a dependency on mysql-common which I didn't spot when removing mysql | 07:48 |
| Bashing-om | Gargoyle: Good spot ! :D | 07:49 |
| bittin_ | Downloading the last 19.10 beta now | 08:23 |
| bittin_ | done :) | 09:03 |
| Gargoyle | Is 19.10 going to have a 5.4 kernel? | 12:43 |
| lotuspsychje | !info linux-image-generic | 12:44 |
| ubottu | linux-image-generic (source: linux-meta): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version 5.3.0.13.14 (eoan), package size 2 kB, installed size 15 kB | 12:44 |
| lotuspsychje | Gargoyle: we will see at final release what happens | 12:44 |
| Gargoyle | :) | 12:45 |
| === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka | ||
| wonko | Ok, let's see if I can replicate this train wreck in a VM | 16:40 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 16:40 |
| wonko | Because I'm very interested to know what happened | 16:40 |
| wonko | and want to spare anyone else of this heartburn | 16:40 |
| wonko | thankfully I just re-installed ubuntu a couple weeks ago so all the gyrations I had to go through are fresh in my mind. :) | 16:41 |
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