didrocks | good morning | 06:13 |
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jibel | Ssalut didrocks | 06:19 |
didrocks | salut jibel | 06:25 |
oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:53 |
duflu | Morning didrocks, jibel and oSoMoN | 06:53 |
oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:54 |
oSoMoN | you had a good holiday? | 06:55 |
duflu | oSoMoN, it was nice for a few days but then of course I finally got a cold for most of a week | 06:55 |
duflu | Dubai was almost 40 degrees and humid every day | 06:56 |
duflu | At least it's predictable | 06:56 |
oSoMoN | :/ | 06:58 |
oSoMoN | I hope you managed to enjoy your time off despite this | 06:58 |
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didrocks | hey duflu, salut oSoMoN | 07:16 |
oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:24 |
oSoMoN | tu as passé un bon week-end? | 07:25 |
didrocks | oSoMoN: très bien, et toi ? | 07:26 |
oSoMoN | oui, super | 07:36 |
oSoMoN | good morning willcooke | 07:37 |
willcooke | hi oSoMoN | 07:37 |
duflu | Morning willcooke | 07:40 |
didrocks | hey willcooke | 07:41 |
willcooke | afternoon duflu | 07:41 |
willcooke | duflu, are you back home again? | 07:42 |
willcooke | and isn't a public holiday? | 07:42 |
duflu | willcooke, my body is but not my sleeping patterns | 07:42 |
willcooke | :) | 07:42 |
didrocks | will need some days to recover I guess ;) | 07:43 |
willcooke | hi didrocks | 07:43 |
duflu | Yeah it's a public holiday but I have to work today to afford time for my actual vacation | 07:43 |
willcooke | ha | 07:43 |
duflu | willcooke, actually that's only Western Australia because who needs consistency? | 07:45 |
willcooke | oh, how odd | 07:46 |
RAOF | There are a bunch of state-only public holidays! | 07:47 |
RAOF | It comes of having an actually devolved governance structure :P | 07:48 |
RAOF | Also, hello all! | 07:48 |
RAOF | I, too, am finally no longer on Paris time! | 07:48 |
duflu | 🙃🇦🇺 | 07:50 |
marcustomlinson | morning desktoppers | 07:58 |
didrocks | hey marcustomlinson | 07:59 |
willcooke | hey marcustomlinson RAOF | 08:00 |
Wimpress | o/ | 08:00 |
willcooke | morning Wimpress | 08:00 |
didrocks | morning Wimpress | 08:01 |
Laney | yo yo | 08:02 |
willcooke | what up Laney | 08:02 |
Laney | hey willcooke | 08:03 |
Laney | got a cold /o\ | 08:03 |
willcooke | :( | 08:04 |
didrocks | hey hey Laney | 08:04 |
didrocks | Martin got one (and fever), hoping to not be next | 08:04 |
Laney | :( | 08:05 |
Laney | bad nights then? | 08:05 |
Laney | guess it's probably flu vaccination time eh | 08:06 |
didrocks | not that bad TBH, just feeling a little bit worry and trying to get the temperature down | 08:07 |
Laney | ♥ | 08:08 |
duflu | Morning marcustomlinson, Wimpress and Laney | 08:08 |
Laney | wb duflu | 08:08 |
Laney | argh | 08:12 |
Laney | the shower radio just mysteriously turned itself on | 08:12 |
Laney | ...the intro scene to a murder drama... | 08:13 |
willcooke | At least you have clean ghosts | 08:13 |
Laney | ghosts who like andrew marr | 08:13 |
Laney | good taste | 08:13 |
* Laney eyes ubiquity with displeasure | 08:14 | |
Laney | new systemd broke it | 08:14 |
jibel | what broke? | 08:16 |
Laney | udev thing | 08:17 |
Wimpress | willcooke: I had reports over the weekend that Steam segfaults on Ubuntu 19.10 on system that have the nvidia proprietary driver loaded. | 08:41 |
Wimpress | I can reproduce. | 08:41 |
Wimpress | Seems to be because nvidia :i386 userspace is not installed when installing Steam. | 08:42 |
Wimpress | Debian steam package appears to be a couple of years ahead of what is in Ubuntu. | 08:42 |
willcooke | tseliot, ^ | 08:42 |
Wimpress | Not sure how to progress this. | 08:42 |
willcooke | Is it a driver issue? | 08:42 |
Wimpress | No. | 08:43 |
Wimpress | I don't believe so. I have drivers install and the systyem works. | 08:43 |
Wimpress | Just no i386 nvidia user space install when `apt install steam` | 08:43 |
willcooke | ah, I see | 08:43 |
willcooke | so we need Valve to update their package? | 08:43 |
willcooke | Is there anything we can do in the meantime? | 08:44 |
Wimpress | Well, I am install from the deb in the archive. | 08:44 |
Wimpress | And that is ancient. | 08:44 |
willcooke | We should probably get rid of that package | 08:44 |
willcooke | Do you know if the one in Debian is any newer? | 08:44 |
Wimpress | Debian steam package appears to have debconf rules to prompt users about nvidia i386. | 08:45 |
Wimpress | Yes, debian steam package is considerably newer. | 08:45 |
tseliot | the nvidia metapackage recommends the i386 libraries | 08:45 |
tseliot | nvidia-driver-$version | 08:45 |
willcooke | Wimpress, if we merge Steam from Debian would that sort it? | 08:48 |
Wimpress | I think more research required. | 08:49 |
Wimpress | I'll report back. | 08:49 |
willcooke | thanks a lot Wimpress. | 08:49 |
willcooke | tsimonq2, looks like you looked at the Steam packages, do you have any plans to update them again? | 08:49 |
duflu | Looks like Ubuntu is about 1 year and 7 months behind debian (https://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//non-free/s/steam/steam_1.0.0.61-2_changelog) | 08:55 |
Wimpress | Manually install the nvidia-driver-435 Recommends: packages gets me a working steam. Several people reported this issue. | 08:58 |
Wimpress | I'll find out if they were fresh installs or upgrades and what driver version they have. | 08:59 |
tseliot | Wimpress, does steam try to pull in the nvidia driver? If so, maybe they use --no-recommends ? | 09:01 |
Wimpress | tseliot: No, steam is not pulling in the nvidia drivers. | 09:10 |
Wimpress | Which is fine. | 09:10 |
Wimpress | The newer debian steam package use debconf to prompt users about installing i386 nvidia driver if the nvidia kernel module is present. | 09:11 |
Laney | bah | 09:13 |
Laney | I'd ported ubiquity to use GUdev instead of parsing the output of udevadm info | 09:13 |
Laney | but now I'm not sure that is ok as it would mean the main ubiquity package depends on gi stuff | 09:14 |
Laney | in practice it would mean adding gir1.2-gudev-1.0 | 09:17 |
Laney | 4K compressed | 09:17 |
tseliot | Wimpress, oh, ok. The nvidia packages is Ubuntu are not necessarily like the ones in Debian. So, maybe the debconf code needs to be changed a little to match our drivers | 09:21 |
Laney | xnox: any thought on https://git.launchpad.net/ubiquity/commit/?id=a270d8431f199dd112fabc552abd16a3993d8d58 vs just fixing the path? | 09:46 |
Laney | dunno why you're not in #-installer any more | 09:48 |
Laney | hope you aren't trying to escape ;-) | 09:48 |
xnox | Laney: yes bindings is nicer! | 09:51 |
Laney | main thing is that it moves the gi deps up to main ubiquity package | 09:51 |
xnox | Laney: bug. i think my autojoin is not persistent when i crash znc | 09:52 |
xnox | bah | 09:52 |
xnox | not znc, weechat | 09:52 |
xnox | i switchted to weechat-headless | 09:52 |
Laney | sniffle sniffle | 13:10 |
kenvandine | ahayzen: flatpak SRU is in disco-proposed now | 14:37 |
ahayzen[m] | kenvandine: thanks ! i saw it appear over the weekend and did the verification last night :-D I'll keep an eye out for the bionic one :-) | 14:39 |
hellsworth | morning everyone | 14:39 |
didrocks | hey hellsworth | 14:40 |
hellsworth | cheers (with my cofffee again) didrocks :) | 14:41 |
didrocks | heh ;) /me had second and last coffee on the day before it's too late for finding sleep later on ;) | 14:42 |
oSoMoN | good morning hellsworth | 14:42 |
hellsworth | yeah i understand. it's weird how when i was younger i could drink coffee right up until bed time and be fine. ah the joys of age :) | 14:42 |
hellsworth | hi oSoMoN, hope things are well with you :) | 14:43 |
marcustomlinson | Hey hellsworth | 14:43 |
hellsworth | hi marcustomlinson | 14:43 |
oSoMoN | yeah I'm fine, knee-deep in debugging a thunderbird issue on ppc64el, not the most interesting task on earth, but I know I'll nail it eventually | 14:44 |
didrocks | hellsworth: you are calling me old! | 14:45 |
didrocks | well… ok ;) | 14:45 |
* didrocks goes crying in a small (and dark) corner :p | 14:46 | |
hellsworth | haha no no i mean't i'm old | 14:49 |
hellsworth | oSoMoN, you can do it! i love thunderbird and can't live without it so keep up the fixes :) | 14:50 |
didrocks | thundebird on mainframe, that's an interesting concept though :p | 14:51 |
willcooke | morning hellsworth | 14:54 |
hellsworth | hi willcooke , how goes the beta iso testing? still need a hand? | 15:01 |
willcooke | Thanks for the offer, but the beta is done now (and we found plenty of bugs). We'll start doing more ISO testing in a week or so | 15:02 |
hellsworth | ok sounds good. i'm happy to help with the next round, for realsies :) | 15:02 |
hellsworth | what is the exact date of release? | 15:03 |
willcooke | 17 Oct | 15:03 |
hellsworth | ah ok. I guess I already asked that because it was already on my calendar :) | 15:04 |
oSoMoN | hellsworth, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseSchedule | 15:04 |
hellsworth | oh thanks! that's handy! | 15:05 |
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kenvandine | at what point should i see the colored battery icon? | 16:39 |
kenvandine | mine is at 34% and it's red | 16:40 |
kenvandine | but upower doesn't think it should be red | 16:40 |
kenvandine | icon-name: 'battery-good-symbolic' | 16:40 |
kenvandine | I wouldn't think battery-good-symbolic should be red or orange | 16:40 |
willcooke | hmm, cant remember exactly. I think it was 20% or thereabouts | 16:40 |
willcooke | kenvandine, is it this? https://github.com/ubuntu/yaru/issues/1531 | 16:41 |
gitbot | ubuntu issue 1531 in yaru "Battery icon looks red, even when the battery is full" [Closed] | 16:41 |
hellsworth | kenvandine, if you systemctl restart upower does it change to not be red anymore? | 16:42 |
kenvandine | it was white until like 20 minutes ago | 16:42 |
kenvandine | restarting upower didn't ake a difference | 16:42 |
hellsworth | ah ok | 16:42 |
kenvandine | upower -d gives an icon name that i would think would not be red | 16:43 |
kenvandine | i'm going to charge to see what upower reports after it changes back to white | 16:44 |
Laney | pretty sure gnome-shell is deciding which icon to use on its own rather than using that property | 16:48 |
kenvandine | at 43% it's still showing the red icon | 16:56 |
willcooke | night all. | 17:09 |
willcooke | kenvandine, I will test that icon tomorrow | 17:09 |
hellsworth | kenvandine, i think the percentage can't be trusted because i know my laptop is at 100%. it's been charging all night and when i boot with power connected it says 100% but when i unplug the power, it says 94%. | 17:21 |
hellsworth | i want to file a bug about this but not sure which package relates to the top bar battery icon | 17:21 |
hellsworth | gnome-control-center maybe? | 17:21 |
kenvandine | gnome-shell i think | 17:22 |
hellsworth | ok | 17:22 |
hellsworth | out of curiosity, do you see different percentages with your power plugged in vs not? | 17:22 |
kenvandine | hellsworth: nope | 17:23 |
kenvandine | same | 17:23 |
hellsworth | hmm interesting | 17:23 |
xnox | hm | 17:28 |
xnox | where was the bug report htat ubuntu desktop fails to reboot? | 17:28 |
jibel | xnox, bug 1840122 | 17:29 |
ubot5 | bug 1840122 in linux (Ubuntu Eoan) "System fails to reboot from live session or ubiquity-dm - squashfs_read_data failed to read block" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1840122 | 17:29 |
jibel | feel free to retitle it, I didn't have any meaningful data to make a meaningful title | 17:29 |
xnox | jibel: tah. | 17:35 |
hellsworth | I have more weird power behavior: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1846000 | 17:36 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1846000 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "battery level percentage different with and without power connected to laptop" [Undecided,New] | 17:36 |
kenvandine | hellsworth: what does upower -d say? | 17:38 |
kenvandine | both plugged in and unplugged? | 17:38 |
kenvandine | percentage varying, it's probably not gnome-shell | 17:39 |
kenvandine | the icon selection might be though, which is what i'm seeing | 17:40 |
hellsworth | the output of upower -d looks pretty normal in both cases | 17:44 |
hellsworth | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/444807989/plugged-in.out | 17:44 |
hellsworth | https://launchpadlibrarian.net/444808021/unplugged.out | 17:44 |
hellsworth | i think my battery is too full to show 'battery-good-symbolic' so i'll let it discharge a bit | 17:46 |
kenvandine | so upower is showing the same percentage but the shell is showing the wrong value | 17:49 |
hellsworth | well the percentage upower shows is the same percentage that is displayed in gnome-shell, now... it's weird that when i plug in my power, gnome-shell briefly says 100% before going back to 92% | 17:51 |
mgedmin | maybe it's the battery firmware doing tricks/being buggy? | 17:52 |
hellsworth | could be | 17:53 |
* mgedmin had a sketchy thinkpad battery that always reported "design capacity" to be exactly 1% more than "last full capacity" | 17:53 | |
mgedmin | "wow, this battery still has 99% design capacity after five years of use!" | 17:53 |
hellsworth | that would explain why i'm the only one seeing 1846000 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upower/+bug/1845532 | 17:53 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1845532 in upower (Ubuntu) "power icon does not indicate charging if booted without power connected" [Undecided,New] | 17:53 |
hellsworth | well to be fair, this laptop is just over 2 weeks old.... | 17:54 |
hellsworth | so i expect high percentages | 17:54 |
xnox | jibel: i think i have a fix | 18:00 |
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