[04:11] <swift110> sup
[07:21] <Regor> whats default disk management tool in 18.04 ?
[07:25] <diogenes_> Regor, should be gparted.
[07:26] <Regor> ok
[08:39] <xubuntu26w> hello is anyone here?
[08:40] <xubuntu26w> Mint has an xfce official release; why use xubuntu/vice-versa
[08:40] <xubuntu26w> is there a list of included packages in xubuntu somewhere?
[08:41] <diogenes_> xubuntu uses standard ubuntu/debian infrastructure whereas mint does a lot of modifications.
[08:45] <brainwash> xubuntu26w: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/18.04/release/xubuntu-18.04.3-desktop-amd64.manifest
[08:46] <brainwash> some of the listed packages are only used for the live session and installation routine
[08:48] <xubuntu26w> Thanks for the information, friends. Do you volunteer here or just fans?
[08:58] <rud0lf> xubuntu26w: does one excludes another?
[09:06] <xubuntu26w> Well I'd consider "volunteer" an official status, a fan being a personal opinion...
[09:16] <xubuntu26w> Mint's irc is def. more lively; I've tried many distros, what interests me the most in this one is that the iso is smallest aside from a non-gui or puppy
[12:05] <jarnos> Does Xubuntu have any application for showing system information? I think hardinfo could be good for that.
[12:24] <diogenes_> jarnos, use inxi -F
[12:32] <jarnos> diogenes_, that is usefu, just would need an item in whisker menu.
[12:34] <diogenes_> jarnos, you can create a shortcut that you click on and it will display the terminal with all that info.
[12:35] <jarnos> diogenes_, yes, I just wish it was there when I installed Xubuntu.
[12:36] <jarnos> when I search for system information
[12:36] <diogenes_> for that purpose you could create your own custom xubuntu iso that wil include any software you wish.
[12:38] <diogenes_> lspci is the thing that comes pre-installed and shows sysinfo.
[12:39] <jarnos> diogenes_, lspci shows only part of it
[12:40] <jarnos> diogenes_, well, I suppose someone else would benefit from it, too, if it was in the standats ISO.
[17:14] <swift110> hmm
[22:52] <Gusj> Hi there, been trying for this past week to get my Toshiba laptop to recognize its keyboard and trackpad, have not been able to, I have tried: severals commands in the grub file, many solutions found online with no luck, at the moment the machine sees them booting up as seen in dmsg but when i do 'xinput list' ubuntu does not see them
[22:55] <Gusj>   Here is the result of dmesg:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zDWbX6Jy6p/
[22:55] <Gusj> The relevant line I believe is '4.564143] i8042: Can't reactivate AUX port'  Does someone know how to force it to activate?
[22:59] <Gusj> Here is the result of dmesg:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/zDWbX6Jy6p/
[23:00] <well_laid_lawn> Hae you checked the X log ?
[23:01] <well_laid_lawn> does the keyboard work in a tty ?
[23:01] <Gusj> no it appears to be frozen
[23:02] <well_laid_lawn> what model laptop ?
[23:04] <Gusj> When I go into another tty ctrl+alt+f2  u get a lot of text output happening by itself continually
[23:04] <Gusj> have not check x log yet, can do that now, new to linux after a long time..
[23:06] <Gusj> the text that keeps repeating is long and I am typing now from another machine,ACPI BUS BIOS ERROR 1 time and ACPI ERROR 4 times,
[23:06] <Gusj> Toshiba Satellite C55-A5105
[23:07] <Gusj> where is the X log located? do you mean X for Xorg??
[23:08] <well_laid_lawn> yes it's /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[23:10] <well_laid_lawn> acpi issues could be hardware related or a wrong kernel module being loaded
[23:10] <Gusj> Thank you, let me look at it now an
[23:10] <tomreyn> are you sure it still goes there? i'm not running xubuntu (standard ubuntu here) but mine goes to the systemd journal (journalctl -b) only, /var/log/Xorg* is old, outdated
[23:10] <Bashing-om> Gusj: well_laid_lawn:: Maybe too a New location of the file: .local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log .
[23:11] <tomreyn> yes, ~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log should work IMO
[23:11] <Gusj> Those errors keep outputing by themselves ino any tty i go to f2, f3, they are 5 lines, 1 acpi bios, and 4 acpi errors very long lines
[23:13] <well_laid_lawn> that's the kernel writing to stderr - check in the bios that all is ok - maybe see if there is a setting to tweak
[23:14] <Gusj> Already checked the bios very very well, even updated it before the lubuntu install, toshiba only made bios updates for windows, updated from 1.10 to 1.40 in steps
[23:14] <Gusj> its a very long store, i have broken 2 installs, and first tried ubuntustudio before installing lubuntu
[23:16] <Gusj> well_laid_lawn: I am sorry but when i do '~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log' it tells me that there is no such file or dir
[23:17] <well_laid_lawn> you have to open with a program like    mousepad '~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log
[23:17] <well_laid_lawn> !tab
[23:21] <Gusj> I have the log open with nano, and trying to see if i see / recognize something relevant..
[23:23] <well_laid_lawn> I'd look for X not recognising something or making alot of power buttons or similar
[23:24] <Gusj> Yes in one it says make the keyboard the power button..
[23:27] <Gusj> II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Power Button" (type: KEYBOARD, id 8)
[23:27] <Gusj> [    29.429] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
[23:27] <Gusj> [    29.429] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[23:27] <Gusj> [    29.430] (II) event0  - Power Button: is tagged by udev as: Keyboard
[23:27] <Gusj> [    29.430] (II) event0  - Power Button: device is a keyboard
[23:31] <well_laid_lawn> what happens when you boot into a live cd ?
[23:31] <Gusj> the same thing, I was able to do stuff with external keyboard and mouse.. the laptop kybrd and mouse work in the bios
[23:35] <well_laid_lawn> that laptop should work fine from what I saw on the  net
[23:37] <well_laid_lawn> you haven't set any udev rules ?
[23:38] <Gusj> @well_laid_lawn You see when I log on, the numlock light stays always on.. like the kybrd is frozen, the only option that helped me to turn the light at least OFF, is the atkbd.reset in the grub file, then it would boot wiht the nums lock light off but same result, keybrd and trackpad unresponsive
[23:39] <Gusj> No, I don't exactly know what those rules do, so no
[23:39] <well_laid_lawn> ok
[23:40] <Gusj> Can I upload the Xorg.0.log file to pastes.ubuntu?
[23:41] <well_laid_lawn> sure
[23:46] <Gusj> Wish I knew more if only a certain area is important, I can understand a bit, but not sure how to proceed so I had to include it all, I apologize before that
[23:48] <Gusj> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fQZYZyDyR4/
[23:57] <well_laid_lawn> Gusj:  line 306 sees a keyboard
[23:58] <Gusj> Thank you, here it is:  https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fQZYZyDyR4/
[23:58] <Gusj> Ahh sorry for the repeat..!