[00:02] Gusj: i've seen some kernel module problems in i8042 in and around the version in 18.. might want to try 19 [00:05] @wxl Ahh thank you, you mean updating, right? [00:05] Gusj: not in lubuntu, as the desktop environments and applications are two different environments. [00:14] @wxl I first installed ubuntustudio 19.05 and was advised to go to 18.04, so that is why when I installed Lubuntu I went for 18.04, the problems where in both, if I understand correctly the underlying architecture is quite similar right? [00:14] Gusj: the linux kernel, which is equal in both, is where the problem lies [00:14] @wxl maybe I am not understand you correctly, sorry could you explain further? [00:15] I filed a formal bug in ubuntu to try and see if it happens to someone else with this configuration.. [00:15] Gusj: hardware problems are the most difficult to track down and get the least amount of activity. i wouldn't have a lot of hope. you might be able to help it out by actually trying out the newer system. [00:16] @wxl but in ubuntustudio 19.04 the problem was the same ones.. [00:16] Gusj: this same problem or something else? [00:17] @wxl same ones, laptop keyboard and trackpad do not work, they work perfectly in the bios, not in the OS [00:17] @wxl the kernel sees the keyboard in the xorg log, and then has it as a webcam for some reason.. [00:18] Gusj: you might want to try the beta of the newer version (19.10) [00:19] Gusj: also you might want to try *Ubuntu* (not Studio, Lubuntu, or any other flavor) 16.04 to see if the problem existed on an older version [00:24] @wxl and can I upgrade from the 18.04 I have, Yes I could do that but at the moment the laptop is being used by my wife writing her thesis, with external keyboard and mouse of course, So I cannot wipe it again, have done that a couple of times already with the installs and one I broke of Lubuntu [00:25] Gusj: then i'd advise coming back when she gets it done [00:26] Here is the Xorg.0.log : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fQZYZyDyR4/ [00:27] line 306 sees a keyboard, then line 403 has the webcam as a keyboard [00:28] @wxl since the laptop is from 2013, aprox, that us why I thought Lubuntu would be better suited for it [00:34] ] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: TOSHIB" (type: KEYBOARD, id 13) [00:34] [ 29.685] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105" [00:34] [ 29.685] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us" [00:34] [ 29.687] (II) event11 - TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: TOSHIB: is tagged by udev as: Keyboard [00:34] [ 29.687] (II) event11 - TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: TOSHIB: device is a keyboard [00:35] @wxl That is where it assigns it to the webcam for some reason, it sees it first 100 lines up, it also sees it as a video bus [00:42] @wxl I am really loving Lubuntu, that is why I wanted to see if I can make it work, I think maybe regular Ubuntu would be sluggish in this laptop.. [01:04] @wxl thank you for your help, will give the install of normal Ubuntu 19.04 and then an older version 16.04 to see. I am really really hoping to stay with Lubuntu it is super nice and feels so stable, I thought this would be a driver not loaded problem or something like that.. [01:04] Is there an utility that could tell if it is hardware related? The keyboard and trackpad work Perfectly in the bios, [07:12] matin [07:24] @HMollerCl [I didn't know wpagui, but apparently it's only for wpa, network-manager-gnome is …], I installed network-manager-gnome and wifi on WPA2 worked perfectly. Muchas gracias! 😊 === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK === mattchis6 is now known as mattchis === mattchis6 is now known as mattchis === mattchis6 is now known as mattchis === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [21:16] Hello [22:49] after the lubox up... there is virtual keyboard pop up... this box unconnected to the network ... is there sth wrong with the systemctl start up?