[00:02] <wxl> Gusj: i've seen some kernel module problems in i8042 in and around the version in 18.. might want to try 19
[00:05] <Gusj> @wxl Ahh thank you, you mean updating, right?
[00:05] <wxl> Gusj: not in lubuntu, as the desktop environments and applications are two different environments.
[00:14] <Gusj> @wxl I first installed ubuntustudio 19.05 and was advised to go to 18.04, so that is why when I installed Lubuntu I went for 18.04, the problems where in both, if I understand correctly the underlying architecture is quite similar right?
[00:14] <wxl> Gusj: the linux kernel, which is equal in both, is where the problem lies
[00:14] <Gusj> @wxl maybe I am not understand you correctly, sorry could you explain further?
[00:15] <Gusj> I filed a formal bug in ubuntu to try and see if it happens to someone else with this configuration..
[00:15] <wxl> Gusj: hardware problems are the most difficult to track down and get the least amount of activity. i wouldn't have a lot of hope. you might be able to help it out by actually trying out the newer system.
[00:16] <Gusj> @wxl  but in ubuntustudio 19.04 the problem was the same ones..
[00:16] <wxl> Gusj: this same problem or something else?
[00:17] <Gusj> @wxl same ones, laptop keyboard and trackpad do not work, they work perfectly in the bios, not in the OS
[00:17] <Gusj> @wxl  the kernel sees the keyboard in the xorg log, and then has it as a webcam for some reason..
[00:18] <wxl> Gusj: you might want to try the beta of the newer version (19.10)
[00:19] <wxl> Gusj: also you might want to try *Ubuntu* (not Studio, Lubuntu, or any other flavor) 16.04 to see if the problem existed on an older version
[00:24] <Gusj> @wxl and can I upgrade from the 18.04 I have, Yes I could do that but at the moment the laptop is being used by my wife writing her thesis, with external keyboard and mouse of course, So I cannot wipe it again, have done that a couple of times already with the installs and one I broke of Lubuntu
[00:25] <wxl> Gusj: then i'd advise coming back when she gets it done
[00:26] <Gusj> Here is the Xorg.0.log : https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/fQZYZyDyR4/
[00:27] <Gusj>  line 306 sees a keyboard, then line 403 has the webcam as a keyboard
[00:28] <Gusj> @wxl since the laptop is from 2013, aprox, that us why I thought Lubuntu would be better suited for it
[00:34] <Gusj> ] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: TOSHIB" (type: KEYBOARD, id 13)
[00:34] <Gusj> [    29.685] (**) Option "xkb_model" "pc105"
[00:34] <Gusj> [    29.685] (**) Option "xkb_layout" "us"
[00:34] <Gusj> [    29.687] (II) event11 - TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: TOSHIB: is tagged by udev as: Keyboard
[00:34] <Gusj> [    29.687] (II) event11 - TOSHIBA Web Camera - HD: TOSHIB: device is a keyboard
[00:35] <Gusj> @wxl That is where it assigns it to the webcam for some reason, it sees it first 100 lines up, it also sees it as a video bus
[00:42] <Gusj> @wxl I am really loving Lubuntu, that is why I wanted to see if I can make it work, I think maybe regular Ubuntu would be sluggish in this laptop..
[01:04] <Gusj> @wxl thank you for your help, will give the install of normal Ubuntu 19.04 and then an older version 16.04 to see. I am really really hoping to stay with Lubuntu it is super nice and feels so stable, I thought this would be a driver not loaded problem or something like that..
[01:04] <Gusj> Is there an utility that could tell if it is hardware related? The keyboard and trackpad work Perfectly in the bios,
[07:12] <greinbold> matin
 @HMollerCl [I didn't know wpagui, but apparently it's only for wpa, network-manager-gnome is …], I installed network-manager-gnome and wifi on WPA2 worked perfectly. Muchas gracias! 😊
[21:16] <Settori> Hello
 after the lubox up... there is virtual keyboard pop up... this box unconnected to the network ... is there sth wrong with the systemctl start up?