| bdx | well that was a journey ... finally got my web irc back up | 01:32 |
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| bdx | updated thelounge snap and charm along the way in case anyone is interested https://snapcraft.io/theloungeirc & https://jaas.ai/u/omnivector/thelounge | 01:33 |
| timClicks_ | thumper: I've been thinking a little bit about the pinned repositories feature that is presented at https://github.com/juju | 03:11 |
| timClicks_ | imo we should only have github.com/juju/juju there.. and provide some sort of index in our documentation that explains the rest | 03:11 |
| timClicks_ | there's also an email address listed that's out of date: juju-dev@lists.ubuntu.com | 03:13 |
| timClicks_ | I would also like to create a juju-quickstart repo that contains working tutorials | 03:14 |
| bdx | +1 ^^^ | 03:19 |
| thumper | timClicks_: unless we pin some of the more reusable repos there: | 03:38 |
| thumper | juju/errors | 03:38 |
| thumper | juju/ansiterm | 03:38 |
| thumper | juju/loggo | 03:39 |
| thumper | juju/schema | 03:39 |
| thumper | timClicks_: quick start repo sounds good too, what format were you thinking for tutorials? | 03:39 |
| timClicks_ | those repos are also good candidates | 03:40 |
| timClicks_ | ideally, we would have something like a series of Jupyter notebooks.. | 03:40 |
| hpidcock | timClicks_: other things of note, the https://github.com/juju page doesn't link to jaas.ai || discourse.jujucharms.com or even have a description | 03:44 |
| hpidcock | also the "juju" text in the logo is superfluous, I think the normal logo would work better | 03:45 |
| wallyworld | thumper: small PR to adjust action tags to numbers https://github.com/juju/names/pull/98 | 03:52 |
| thumper | wallyworld: looks like we can blame andrew two years ago | 03:53 |
| thumper | no idea why we hadn't caught this earlier | 03:53 |
| thumper | nor why it isn't a problem in more places | 03:54 |
| thumper | I feel like I'm missing something | 03:54 |
| thumper | but I don't know what | 03:54 |
| thumper | I can see where we go from a dict with ID keys | 03:54 |
| thumper | to a slice of slices | 03:54 |
| thumper | and it is iterating randomly over the dict | 03:54 |
| thumper | but I can't see why this isn't causing more problems | 03:55 |
| wallyworld | hmmmm | 03:55 |
| * thumper has a thought | 03:55 | |
| * thumper checks code some more | 03:55 | |
| AvondZon | can anyone point me to the anbox-cloud bundle? | 04:23 |
| wallyworld | babbageclunk: sice thumper sucks https://github.com/juju/names/pull/98 | 04:56 |
| babbageclunk | wallyworld: looks super-delish | 05:08 |
| wallyworld | babbageclunk: \o/ ty | 05:13 |
| * thumper is writing a test for equality... | 05:57 | |
| thumper | I think I worked it out | 06:00 |
| thumper | we are losing the space ID | 06:00 |
| thumper | never matches | 06:00 |
| manadart | thumper: Probably me. What's up? | 06:35 |
| thumper | manadart: otp, chat later | 06:35 |
| manadart | Anyone for a simple review? Just a dep update: https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/10671 | 06:35 |
| hpidcock | manadart: done | 07:05 |
| manadart | hpidcock: Ta. | 07:08 |
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| nammn_de | where do we save the charm archive again? | 08:29 |
| stickupkid | manadart, CR these changes https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/10662 | 10:20 |
| stickupkid | this seems to be failing a lot atm "TestCreateVirtualMachineRootDiskSize" | 10:21 |
| stickupkid | i'm having a look | 10:21 |
| stickupkid | intermittent failure running - go test -v ./provider/vsphere/internal/vsphereclient/... -check.v -check.f=clientSuite.TestCreateVirtualMachineRootDiskSize -count=100 | 10:25 |
| manadart | stickupkid: OTP. Will look in a mo' | 10:37 |
| stickupkid | manadart, ta buddy | 10:37 |
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| nammn_de | Any fast way to get the charm version of a charm (beside mongo db shell)? | 11:52 |
| ventura | I live in Brazil and Canonial Juju is a completely unknown by DevOps and developers here | 12:04 |
| ventura | I am new to DevOps, so I would like to know if someone may help me to identify | 12:04 |
| AvondZon | can anyone point me to the anbox-cloud bundle? | 12:05 |
| ventura | 1. What is the product niche (if compared to Ansible, Chef, Circle CI, Puppet, Terraform) | 12:05 |
| ventura | 2. What is it main competitor? | 12:05 |
| zeestrat | Hey ventura, recommend checking out the forums discourse.jujucharms.com which answers some of your questions. | 12:12 |
| rick_h | AvondZon: hmmm, not showing up in the charmstore. Have to check with morphis | 12:43 |
| rick_h | ventura: howdy, so our main niche is operating complex software over time. e.g. we really take seriously longer term operations, upgrade strategies, etc. | 12:44 |
| rick_h | ventura: I think as far as competitors it's kind of a lot. Folks not using Juju are generally stitching together their own chain of tools, processes, etc. | 12:44 |
| rick_h | morphis: AvondZon was asking about getting pointed to the "anbox-cloud bundle" | 12:45 |
| ventura | zeestrat: thx, i am gonna read it right now | 12:48 |
| ventura | rick_h: that the point i was arguing with my manager and CTO | 12:49 |
| morphis | AvondZon: I guess you read https://ubuntu.com/blog/running-android-in-the-cloud-with-amazon-ec2-a1-instances, if there is interest please reach out through the linked contact form | 12:49 |
| ventura | they hired a company the is writing its own solution of creating scripts for managing/creating/etc containers over terraform | 12:50 |
| ventura | the idea was having several scripts to fastly create a distributed cloud platform | 12:50 |
| ventura | and (of course) publish as an OSS solution to the world | 12:51 |
| ventura | when i saw the presentation i said "hey, have you met juju?" | 12:51 |
| ventura | rick_h: you mentioned " I think as far as competitors it's kind of a lot. Folks not using Juju are generally stitching together their own chain of tools, processes, etc." | 13:12 |
| ventura | I far as I understood, Juju is more like a admin/script anobolic solution we can use over standard cloud technologies ( Ansible, Chef, Circle CI, Docker, Kubernetes, Puppet, Terraform, etc) | 13:14 |
| ventura | Several years ago I worked creating IBM Linux VM from scratch using shell-script and Python. | 13:15 |
| ventura | Maybe I am really charmed by Juju due my previous mindset | 13:16 |
| rick_h | ventura: sec, on the phone so slow to respond | 13:16 |
| ventura | rick_h: take your time :-) | 13:17 |
| AvondZon | morphis: yes saw the vid on juju discourse. Thank you (& rick_h), will do. | 13:22 |
| rick_h | ventura: so the charms are like the scripts and I would compare to things like k8s operators or some newer ideas in ansible to have more complex sets of scripts for things | 13:59 |
| rick_h | ventura: but the idea around juju of modeling things at a higher level, really getting away from anything that requires getting into the details of network addresses, etc is the key to juju | 14:00 |
| nammn_de | stickupkid: you mind taking a look at that pr? https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/10673 | 14:01 |
| stickupkid | sure | 14:01 |
| ventura | rick_h: that is one of the reasons why the contract we hired was justifying to write a new whole devops framework | 14:04 |
| ventura | "but the idea around juju of modeling things at a higher level, really getting away from anything that requires getting into the details of network addresses, etc is the key to juju" | 14:05 |
| Mudchains | Hi all, i am trying to deploy a "Charmed Distr. of kubernetes" by conjure-up @ deploying to a onpremise vsphere enviroment. Even when I enter the ipadres I am getting ([Errno -2] Name or service not known). Ipadres and DNS of vCenter is reachable..anyone a clue? | 14:32 |
| Mudchains | Ok, I added https:// to the hostname/ip. When I enter it without https its working. | 14:50 |
| stickupkid | Mudchains, seems like a bug, as we should at least have a better error message | 14:56 |
| Mudchains | stickupkid yes, that would saved me alot of time haha :D | 14:59 |
| stickupkid | Mudchains, https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bugs | 15:00 |
| Mudchains | stickupkid i will make a report later :) thanks for the link (dont have a ubunut one account etc, and worktime is over) | 15:10 |
| nammn_de | stickupkid: thanks for the review and patch! Just regarding the added line "test_local_charms", where does bash take this function from? https://github.com/nammn/juju/blob/b56727e88030282bdc15a5602abe8d259dba69c9/tests/suites/cli/task.sh#L13 | 15:26 |
| stickupkid | nammn_de, https://github.com/nammn/juju/blob/b56727e88030282bdc15a5602abe8d259dba69c9/tests/suites/cli/use_local_charm.sh#L63 | 15:26 |
| nammn_de | stickupkid: ah nvm the patch didnt change the name, i changed it again and then i thought maybe i was wrong and reverted that :D | 15:27 |
| stickupkid | nammn_de, approved | 15:30 |
| nammn_de | stickupkid: 🦸 | 15:30 |
| stickupkid | nammn_de, CR please https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/10675 | 15:39 |
| achilleasa | stickupkid: is it legal to include a dummy txn.Op in a transaction that only asserts something? | 16:32 |
| stickupkid | achilleasa, yeah | 16:32 |
| stickupkid | achilleasa, like, docMissing etc | 16:33 |
| achilleasa | stickupkid: I think I am doing something wrong with the ids because I get a excessive contention error | 16:33 |
| stickupkid | linky dink? | 16:33 |
| achilleasa | stickupkid: https://pastebin.canonical.com/p/D3DNqzYCwk/ | 16:35 |
| achilleasa | stickupkid: ahhh crap... field has no hyphen | 16:36 |
| stickupkid | d'ho | 16:36 |
| pmatulis | can one start a machine that is in the 'down' state? | 21:05 |
| rick_h | pmatulis: so down just means the agent isn't running so it might be that you can ssh to the machine and start the jujud | 21:11 |
| rick_h | pmatulis: or if the machine is off, then no, you'd need to turn it on from the cloud | 21:11 |
| pmatulis | rick_h, thank you | 21:11 |
| rick_h | pmatulis: saw your storage issue. I've not had a chance to look into it yet. Did you say that it "works" under 2.6? | 21:12 |
| rick_h | pmatulis: or just didn't work when testing 2.7 and not sure if it ever did but thought it should? | 21:12 |
| rick_h | timClicks: if you have time wanted to see if you were up to chat juju show for next week maybe | 21:13 |
| pmatulis | rick_h, just 2.6.9. it was the first time trying with 2.7. i just assumed it would work | 21:13 |
| rick_h | pmatulis: it does work with 2.6.9? | 21:13 |
| pmatulis | rick_h, correct | 21:14 |
| rick_h | pmatulis: ok cool, did you file a bug? /me dbl checks | 21:14 |
| pmatulis | rick_h, no. i thought it may have been expected at this time | 21:14 |
| pmatulis | hence my question on irc | 21:14 |
| rick_h | pmatulis: no, a storage change like that sounds like a regression (though we've not hacked on storage so not sure why...) we need to look into before 2.7 beta | 21:14 |
| pmatulis | rick_h, ok, i will file | 21:15 |
| rick_h | pmatulis: ty! | 21:15 |
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