[00:03] best way to get xfce4 on my 19.10 install.....I recall a command besides apt-get install xfce*, but I forget [00:04] unless I'm getting hardware accel in whatever default is... [00:06] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9Qf7NnYT7P/ [00:07] yah it's a cr-48 ;) [00:43] tryin sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop going back to mute.... [03:20] has speech-dispatcher been updated in this dev cycle? [03:21] speechd-up wont connect to it anymore [05:14] Fudge: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/speech-dispatcher/+changelog - if that helps you any. [05:31] hi. The other day, I upgraded my HDD USB ubuntu install to latest 19.10 beta. It was fine on my laptop. But running in my netbook, I was left with a non working touchpad. with xorg or wayland. I tried installing some libinput xorg-synpactics package to no avail. I didn't look into tha mater since. anyone got ideas on that ? a bug ? an update has been rolled out ? [05:32] +external+ HDD [05:48] solsTiCe: did you update you say? or clean installed 19.10? [05:48] lotuspsychje: no upgraded from 19.04 [05:49] solsTiCe: ah, we very reccomend to clean install devel version of ubuntu until final, this way we prevent giving the developers extra work by seeking maybe bad upgrade bugs [05:49] solsTiCe: im not saying this is the case for you, but why take the chance right? [05:50] solsTiCe: 'if' this bug is happening on a clean 19.10 iso we surely will help you find the root cause [05:50] It was to get a sneak peek on the next ubuntu. I don't use that much that install [05:51] well beta is for that no ? finding bug ? be it for upgraded install or not [05:51] solsTiCe: i understand! its the users choice [05:52] if you kill your system by upgrading, the beta users are there to let you know [05:52] right ? [05:53] solsTiCe: i agree the upgrade process might also need bugged out, but as a devel/beta tester you should also compare the clean way too, hence trying a clean daily [05:53] ooo kay [05:55] solsTiCe: the last thing we want, is creating a new !bug with a chance its caused by an error from 19.04 [05:55] it wasn't an old 19.04 install. last month may be [05:56] yeah i didnt say this was your case, just perhaps test a real quicky live usb 19.10 to see if your touchpad scrambles? === tomreyn_ is now known as tomreyn [07:59] krytarik: thanks for that, ill poke the maintainer [08:43] lotuspsychje: the live cd is fine. touchpad is working and wifi too. [08:44] I forgot to say that the upgraded install, I don't have wifi anymore also. I do'nt why it was screwed up during the upgrade. [08:45] oh because I made the upgrade on my laptop while the install was made on the netbook ? but there are kernel wifi drivers if I am not wrong [08:46] May I have reset some hardware cache, when I switch from laptop to netbook ? [08:53] never mind. the HDD is dying. I got I/O error on some block and I can't boot from it for now [09:01] I don't know HDD is still fine after all. I need to double check. By changing of USB port, it boots fine. I got a working touchpad in gdm, but after that .... [09:03] and wifi is fine. at least the interface is up [09:07] oh f.... sorry for all that noise. the touchpad was just .. disabled ... by me. on the laptop I use a mouse and disable the touchpad. /o\ sorry [18:32] Hi folks. I have noticed that logging into my windows 10 KVM VM on virt-manager on 19.10 causes both the guest and host system to completely freeze, requiring a hard reset. This doesn't happen on 19.04. [18:33] Is anyone familiar with this issue? [18:33] yerbestpal, is the KVM running on the same machine? [18:33] Yes. [18:34] I also tried creating an entirely new VM from an ISO to make sure it wasn't something of my own doing, but once windows reached first login, the same thing happened. [18:34] yerbestpal, when you say "logging on" do you mean you can open the console, but as soon as you press Enter on a login, it freezes? [18:35] I mean once I log into the guest. Windows boots, and once it passes the boot splash and logs in, everything freezes. [18:35] Including the host system [18:36] Interesting [18:36] I can confirm it happens on both ubuntu mate and xubuntu [18:36] yerbestpal, can you run a Linux guest reliably? [18:36] Good question [18:36] I will download an iso and report back [18:38] I did think it pretty odd that the entire host system locks up - I can't even use ctrl-alt-f1, etc to get into a new terminal. [18:46] Actually, I just remembered I reinstalled to 19.04 since I need access to the VM for college, so I can't actually test this. [18:49] I did make a bug report on Launchpad though it isn't currently tied to a package. [18:51] yerbestpal, can you post the bug report URL? [18:52] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager/+bug/1846281 [18:52] Launchpad bug 1846281 in virt-manager (Ubuntu) "Full system locks up when logging into a Windows 10 KVM guest" [Undecided,New] [18:53] yerbestpal, subbed, that will raise the heat a little. I notice that it got categorized, that's a start. [18:55] lordcirth, thanks a bunch. Hopefully this gets the ball rolling. [19:06] Does anyone here know if there is an appropriate IRC channel to discuss Snap issues? [19:11] !snap [19:11] Snaps are containerised software packages similar to flatpaks or appimage. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io [19:12] oops, i was thinking it'd point to #snapcraft - though that's not a discussion channel [19:12] well, snap *development* discussion [19:13] yerbestpal: ^ [19:13] ahhh okay [19:13] Hrm [19:14] Doesn't sound too appropriate. Thanks though.