[00:22] what is the best way to flip from gnome to xfce? [00:23] besides apt-get install xfce? [00:24] donofrio: "best" in my opinion when all is said and done: dual boot. [00:25] do you want to keep gnome around though? [00:25] I dunno am I getting more hardware accel with it ? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9Qf7NnYT7P/ [00:25] its a cr-48 ;) [00:26] first boot was like a doublerainbow lol but then I'm like I want xfce4 (I think) [00:28] it can happen that lots of packages which are needed by xfce are still marked as installed by gnome, then one day to save space you remove some important gnome stuff, then another time an innocent apt-get autoremove and all those important crossover packages can disappear [00:32] i do autoremove all the time [00:33] i think xfce will work better on that machine [00:34] the graphics driver and openGL will be the same [00:34] how do I fix this.....onboard wifi is junk or something - perhaps fw I don't think so, I've got usb nub that works great when not slowed down by these https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cbG7FJn386/ [00:34] agreed [00:35] maybe there are some fancy transitions/actions/animations in gnome that you might miss [00:35] RTL8188CUS [00:35] think i had one of these on a usb nobble wifi, it was a pain but worked in the end [00:36] this I believe ? sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop [00:36] oh wait that is your external, sorry [00:36] the wifi works great [00:36] just need to disable builtin (somehow) [00:47] imma going with lightdm [00:48] got a feeling next command will be 'sudo apt remove gnome-desktop -y' ;) [00:48] or is it unity-desktop [00:56] how can i turn off the system in this situation? https://i.imgur.com/LBFYGuc.png [00:58] is there some way to send a SIGKILL to mariadb? [00:59] hans_: there's a chance ^C will end that wait.. it's been a while since I've seen it though, maybe i"m wrong [00:59] nope, sent a bunch of those, did nothing [00:59] ^Z didn't do anything either [01:00] dang :( [01:01] hans_: it looks like you can at least lower that timeout for maria using TimeoutSec in the unit file https://unix.stackexchange.com/a/328354/7064 [01:01] hans_: it won't help today, but hopefully you're already on the way back up [01:02] its still stuck but im going to pull the plug i think [01:04] there is no meta gnome-desktop? === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:37] !flavors [01:37] Recognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours [01:37] ubuntu-desktop is gnome-desktop [01:38] !info ubuntu-unity-meta [01:38] Package ubuntu-unity-meta does not exist in bionic [01:38] !info ubuntu-unity-desktop [01:38] ubuntu-unity-desktop (source: ubuntu-unity-meta): The Ubuntu Unity desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1 (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 8 kB (Only available for amd64; arm64; armhf; i386; ppc64el) [02:47] is there a simple gui way to disable hardware components in ubuntu? [02:51] I've got an internal wifi card that sometimes working and sometimes not. It is soldered in, so not so easy to remove. === mouses is now known as mouseleums === xeon is now known as bqq === bqq is now known as DigitalNomad === DigitalNomad is now known as xeon === xeon is now known as bqq === bqq is now known as DigitalNomad === DigitalNomad is now known as bqq === bqq is now known as DigitalNomad === DigitalNomad is now known as eipi10 === eipi10 is now known as eipip1e0 === eipip1e0 is now known as xeon === xeon is now known as eipip1e0 === eipip1e0 is now known as xeon === xeon is now known as eipip1e0 === eipip1e0 is now known as xeon [04:18] Hello all, recently pulseaudio has been making my window manager crash; I am using ubuntu 18.04 LTS. . .I've opened the pulseaudio volume control and I get a message in the window that reads "Establishin connection to PulseAudio. Please wait. . ." [04:19] and it just stays stuck like so. . . [04:19] Any ideas.. .is there a way to reset pulseAudio? [04:23] Hi everyone. I'm having problems with mysql and decided to reinstall it. I think I may have messed smth up. Here's what happens when I try apt-get update: https://pastebin.com/YPF2ihnX [04:24] !sound | slicktux [04:24] slicktux: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - https://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. [04:25] arakash: we dont support external ppa's here mate sorry, we advice to !ppapurge back to ubuntu's default sources.list and make apt healthy again first [04:26] I'm amazed how much trouble people are having with pulseaudio in this room. I have 18.04 LTS and pulseaudio is completely trouble free (since removing tsched=0 in /etc/pulse/default.pa though) [04:26] arakash: from a healthy apt as base, you can try again with mysql [04:27] lotuspsychje: Ah, I see. I can't remember, it's been a while since I logged into linux. What do I do to remove mariadb and go back to MySQL? [04:27] slicktux, `pulseaudio -k ; pulseaudio --start` [04:28] no sudo [04:28] lotuspsychje: actually, wait. I think I might require MariaDB for Laravel... [04:28] arakash: try first to fix your apt, with bringing back your sources to default again [04:28] !ppapurge | arakash [04:28] arakash: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:/ » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html [04:29] arakash: after fixing apt, apt-cache search mysql, to see whats available from your ubuntu version [04:29] Alright [04:29] !lamp | arakash see also [04:29] arakash see also: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process. [04:30] slicktux, I suggest removing tsched=0 in your /etc/pulse/default.pa too [04:30] Where can I find the repo I'm getting MariaDB from? /etc/sources.list ? [04:30] thank you doug16k [04:31] and thank you lotuspsychje [04:31] o/ [04:31] !sources | arakash [04:31] arakash: The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories. [04:31] arakash: usually when adding a ppa, you need to remember the ppa format/name of the maintainer you added [04:38] I think I got this, thanks Lotus! === ltrager_ is now known as ltrager === anonimip_ is now known as anonymip === xeon is now known as bqq === bqq is now known as bq === bq is now known as Guest43804 [04:54] How is this explained? ufw status => Status: inactive, dmesg => [UFW BLOCK] IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=00:16:3e:74:34:32:44:e4:d9:c5:ae:4a:08:00 SRC=... [04:55] How can UFW still be blocking things when I've ran `sudo ufw disable`? [04:55] morning alkisg [04:55] Morning lotuspsychje, how are things? :) [04:55] alkisg: you could try the #netfilter channel too if you like mate [04:55] alkisg: always great on this side, tnx [04:55] Sure, ty [05:38] em so I partitioned my ubuntu 18.04 with LVM, I was perusing through the system rescue and noticed under === LVM state ==: "Physical Volumes: not ok (BAD)" ... what does this mean and do I need to do something about it? === tomreyn_ is now known as tomreyn === freedom_ is now known as freedom [07:38] If my laptop supports hybrid video (Intel integrated GPU + NVIDIA GeForce MX150), how do I tell which GPU is currently active? [07:41] And for some reason, before installing the nvidia proprietary drivers, nouveau would cause a kernel panic when I unplug the external monitor. [07:42] After installing the nvidia proprietary drivers, /sys/kernel/debug/vgaswitcheroo/ is simply gone. [07:45] k_sze: that's probably because vgaswitcheroo can only switch between graphics drivers using the intended APIs [07:47] obviously the kernel panic on nouveau unplug should not occur and would be good to examine further. but then nouveau is in a somewhat sorry state for lack of published hardware documentation (nvidia is maybe starting to get a little better there now, but just maybe) [07:48] * nouveau + monitor unplug [07:49] k_sze: from a usability point of view i assume your best option at this time will be to use the proprietary nvidia driver and use their software to switch between the GPUs [07:49] i think it's called nvidia-settings === jmcgnh_ is now known as jmcgnh [08:00] i am not getting notification audio bell/beep . xubuntu 18.04 [08:04] Hi everyone. I was about to go by a dual screen setup when I noticed my new laptop doesn't have a DVI input in addition to the one HDMI port I have. [08:04] I do have USB-c [08:05] If I have Ubuntu 18.04 with the hardware enablement pack, connecting a screen using HDMI -> USB-c adapter should work right? [08:05] Do I need to install something else? [08:10] Regor: not sure about xubuntu, maybe ask in #xubuntu. in default ubuntu (gnome-shell) you would configure it in settings -> sound -> sound effects -> alert volume [08:10] the_drow: you mean usb-c to hdmi? [08:11] i asked already in #xubuntu . [08:13] Regor: hold on [08:13] ok [08:13] need to remember how do i set it up... xubuntu, right? [08:13] yes [08:13] bionic [08:15] i think pcspkr was the wrong path to solve this, if your goal is to make it work on virtual terminals on the GUI. [08:16] Regor: a bit of patience please [08:16] sure :) [08:17] Regor + rud0lf: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xfce#Sound_themes [08:18] i mean the certain beep sound file [08:18] ok [08:18] i know i modified/looked it up somewhere in /etc or /lib [08:18] pa-something startup script [08:18] ok i check details [08:20] Regor: oh i have it, you need your beep sound as "/usr/share/sounds/alert-sound.ogg" [08:20] ok [08:20] Ben64, I mean I connect to the screen with HDMI but to the computer with USB-c [08:22] mysql_upgrade: Got error: 1045: Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO) while connecting to the MySQL server [08:22] what do to? [08:22] all google hits has with "using password: YES" [08:23] hey *waves hand* can anyone help me? *sniffles* i'd like someone to help me with a little problem *stares at ground* id like figure out which version of wkhtmltopdf gets installed via apt-get *smiles* uwu [08:23] zamba perhaps your password is incorrect [08:23] this is when upgrading mysql [08:23] duoi: it's not [08:23] # mysql [08:23] Welcome to the MySQL monitor. Commands end with ; or \g. [08:24] duoi: but maybe the upgrade script uses a different set of credentials? [08:24] zamba have you set a password for root? [08:25] duoi: yes [08:25] rud0lf: i see folders in /usr/share/sounds/ alsa freedesktop sound-icons speech-dispatcher [08:25] zamba try to enter mysql as root then [08:25] with like [08:25] mysql -u root [08:26] Regor: get a sound you like, convert it to ogg (you can google wav or mp3 to ogg online) [08:26] duoi: i just showed you the output of that [08:26] and copy/link to /usr/share/sounds/alert-sound.ogg [08:26] zamba you should me the output of mysql, not mysql -u root [08:26] duoi: same output [08:27] rud0lf thanks :) [08:27] duoi: i'm able to log in [08:27] duoi: `apt show wkhtmltopdf` [08:28] vlt the follow up issue here is that i dont have ubuntu installed so im hoping one of you beautiful people can check [08:28] Regor: that's my alert sound if you're too lazy or want to quickcheck: https://pub.leopard.ovh/alert-sound.ogg [08:28] :D [08:33] So I am booting 18.04 over iSCSI all fine. I have two ethernet adapters, one dedicated to iSCSI and one for other traffic.My problem is that NetworkManager reports both interfaces as "unmanaged device" even though the open-iscsi boot scripts only added the mac address of my iSCSI interface to the "unmanaged-devices" config key in /var/run/NetworkManager/conf.d/netplan.conf. Any ideas about leads to track down in order to get to the bottom of this? [08:34] duoi: LOL 16.04: Version: 0.12.2.4-1, 18.04: Version: 0.12.4-1, Debian 10: Version: 0.12.5-1 [08:35] vlt thanks homie :) [08:35] Ben64, ? [08:36] duoi: You're dwelcome. [08:37] the_drow: ? [08:37] " I mean I connect to the screen with HDMI but to the computer with USB-c" [08:37] Should be fine right? [08:37] ok, then maybe [08:38] So I should buy the monitor and the adapter and keep my fingers crossed? [08:38] maybe check reviews [08:38] see if they work in linux === rud0lf is now known as MC680000 === MC680000 is now known as MC68000 === MC68000 is now known as rud0lf [08:39] Yeh there's not much online besides that the patches for that were merged in 4.19 [08:50] hi [08:50] so it seems by looking at screens of ubuntu 18.04 that they have moved back the X button in the titlebar to the right from left (which was idiotic). But can you move the docking app bar to the bottom of the screen yet? [08:54] Hi Vooloo. You can move the dash-to-dock to the bottom with this command: 'gsettings set org.gnome.shell.extensions.dash-to-dock dock-position BOTTOM' [08:55] Set it left again with this command: 'gsettings set org.gnome.shell.extensions.dash-to-dock dock-position LEFT', if you regret it [09:29] So I used `crontab -e` and put the line `*/1 * * * * /usr/bin/mplayer /home/coffee/Scripts/casio-f-91w-hour-chime.wav` in it, which works if I run it myself, yet I do not hear a beep every minute. What gives? [09:30] crontab may run it in different context [09:30] i mean environment [09:30] i don't understand [09:31] shouldn't the absolute paths make it work still [09:31] oh you mean crontab itself may not even be running in current environment? [09:31] or something? [09:31] yes [09:31] not in your session [09:32] might be a pulseaudio thing - cron isn't running in the same session as PA [09:32] oooo [09:32] well fuck i wonder how to fix that [09:32] you can test this by running a script every seconds that just outputs 1.txt, 2.txt, ... [09:33] you should see those files being written [09:33] https://rudd-o.com/linux-and-free-software/how-to-make-pulseaudio-run-once-at-boot-for-all-your-users might be necessary, but there are pros and cons to doing that [09:34] (as an aside the /1 i your crontab entry is redundant) [09:42] whoopsies! [09:43] sorry internet choked [09:43] The Internet choked when it read the profanity. [09:43] heh [09:44] :-) [09:44] i wonder how i fix my problem with wanting to use crontab make a sound every 30 minutes is my goal; like on the 0th minute and 30th minute of eveyr hour [09:44] i'm trying to make it like a casio watch hehe [09:45] raspbian or ubuntu runs better on a raspberry pi 4? [09:46] also hilariously i have ac power pluggedin but to install some firmware updates Ubuntu Software demands i use ac power [09:46] i wonder if this has to do with the battery firmware haha === andrex is now known as anderx [09:47] ooh it installed after it charged enough interesting? [09:49] coffeecow: if you can figure out how to have cron make noise, "0,30 * * * *" [09:49] coffeecow: what was the last thing you saw in here before you disconnected? [09:49] ah yeah i just can't seem to get it to use the mplayer command im using because someone suggested it's probs environment for pulseaudio [09:50] me saying " well fuck i wonder how to fix that" mquin [09:50] *choke* [09:50] no swear zone? [09:51] No idea HAHA [09:51] 09:32Z < zmagii> you can test this by running a script every seconds that just outputs 1.txt, 2.txt, ... [09:51] 09:33Z < zmagii> you should see those files being written [09:51] 09:33Z < mquin> https://rudd-o.com/linux-and-free-software/how-to-make-pulseaudio-run-once-at-boot-for-all-your-users might be necessary, but there are pros and cons to doing that [09:51] 09:34Z < mquin> (as an aside the /1 i your crontab entry is redundant) [09:51] coffeecow: we try to keep this channel family friendly, see the !guidelines [10:00] okee [10:01] ah gosh nevermind i guess this is trickier than i thought [10:01] thanks tho [10:10] Hello, is there anything other than rambox for using skype + hangouts or just hangouts? [10:55] Howdy al [10:55] err, Howdy all [10:59] I ran this command to find all the libgtk+-3.0 libraries: `while read -d ' ' x; do echo "--- $x"; find /usr -name "lib${x#-l}.so*"; done < <(pkg-config --libs gtk+-3.0)` [11:00] every one of them is in the wrong directory, pkg-config gives the wrong -L options (library directory search path) [11:03] no -L options actually. so what use is the pkg-config if I hardcode the library path? === im0nde1 is now known as im0nde [11:11] why are you trying to hardcode library paths? [11:12] I'm not [11:12] when the libraries are in the standard locations you don't need -L options [11:12] not true [11:12] gcc isn't searching /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu at all [11:13] doug16k: what are you trying to do exactly ? [11:14] trying to get pkg-config to give me output that I can use in a configure script, that makes gcc compile and link a gtk+-3.0 program [11:15] check the argument order, it matters: libraries must come after objects that use those libraries [11:16] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ToolChain/CompilerFlags#A-Wl.2C--as-needed [11:16] mgedmin, how? reimplement pkg-config? [11:16] so you need to invoke gcc $(pkg-config --cflags) -o hello hello.c $(pkg-config --libs) [11:16] and not gcc $(pkg-config --cflags) $(pkg-config --libs) -o hello hello.c [11:17] which gtk3 program ? the software project should come with an autoconfigure/Makefile environment which automates all that jazz reliably [11:17] legreffier, one that I am going to write [11:18] you should definitely dig on that side, other you (+ your users/packagers) will have a really bad time. [11:19] would you like to ask #gcc ? [11:19] weird, it started working, I don't see what I changed though [11:19] thanks [11:20] * tomreyn thinks #ubuntu is not the right place for software development questions [11:20] it's a "why is ubuntu's stock gcc not searching /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu" question. that's why I asked here [11:21] because I know ubuntu patches 99999 things in gcc and binutils :D [11:22] what is the best mail app. evolution,thunderbird or something else ? [11:22] for who coming from outlook [11:22] I use mutt, which would be terrible for somebody coming from outlook... [11:23] I have the impression that Evolution is the one most similar to Outlook in features and UI [11:23] please take the advice from tomreyn [11:24] i need to use app. for mail and got ability to search within attachment too (pdf, doc, excel ) and mail header , body too so what i should use ? [11:25] vasely: we dont take polls here, just ubuntu support questions [11:27] vasely: i'm not aware of a desktop mail application which can search through binary format attachments. [11:51] hello, ubutuers [11:51] questions related to Juju, should be posted here or in another channel? [11:58] ventura: try #juju [12:10] how do I move the app dotted button to the left side when I have my dock at the bottom? [12:17] Vooloo, gsettings set org.gnome.shell.extensions.dash-to-dock show-apps-at-top true [12:59] Hi guys, i have a problem. long story short. I had lost grub because i installed win10 dualbooted, then i booted into live usb and followed this answer to remove and reinstall grub with luks drive. https://askubuntu.com/questions/844132/how-to-repair-boot-on-luks-encrypted-harddrive After this i got grub back, went to boot into Ubuntu, and it doesnt even prompt for password. It says: Cryptsetup failed, bad password or options? /scripts/local-top/cry [12:59] ptroot: line 1: /lib/cryptsetup/askpass: not found sbin/cryptsetup: not found [12:59] please help, how to get prompt back? [13:01] hmm, apt purge grub-common seems very unnecessary in that answer [13:01] I've one machine with luks, let me check if its grub config has anything special [13:01] no [13:01] and i have checked for /lib/cryptsetup/askpass: not found sbin/cryptsetup: , they do exist when i am in live usb [13:01] hi guys... is it okay to add ubuntu-iligan.com and i will just use a frame to display ubuntu.com website. The purpose of this is to organize people from iligan philippines to join us here in the community... [13:02] hi guys... is it okay to add ubuntu-iligan.com and i will just use a frame to display ubuntu.com website. The purpose of this is to organize people from iligan philippines to join us here in the community... [13:02] mgedmin, yes i also checked another pc with luks, and dont see anything different in /boot [13:03] miu5: it needs to exist in the initramfs -- check lsinitramfs /mnt/initrd.img [13:03] hi guys... is it okay to add ubuntu-iligan.com and i will just use a frame to display ubuntu.com website. The purpose of this is to organize people from iligan philippines to join us here in the community... will this be okay? [13:03] ducasse: thx [13:04] miu5: can you check if cryptsetup-initramfs was installed in your system? e.g. ls /mnt/var/lib/dpkg/info/cryptsetup-initramfs.* [13:05] (or chroot and do the usual apt policy cryptsetup-initramfs) [13:05] should i do lsinitramfs /mnt/initrd.img on the live usb ? [13:08] hi guys i am new to linux, i was wondering if this video is good start to get my feets wet ? [13:08] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBp0Rb-ZJak&t=5167s [13:08] mgedmin, should i do lsinitramfs /mnt/initrd.img on the live usb ? [13:08] mgedmin, right now im chrooted into /mnt [13:09] the important thing is to lsintramfs the /initrd.img in the chroot [13:12] mgedmin, i did lsinitramfs /mnt/initrd.img inside the chroot, and im getting /usr/bin/unmkinitramfs cannot open /mnt/initrd.img no such file [13:13] Hi guys, I am having some problems with dhcp on Hyper-V, OS Ubuntu 18.04 [13:13] Someone available? [13:15] mgedmin, why is it giving that error? anything else i can try? [13:15] miu5: because you didn't read what I said: the path is /initrd.img in the chroot (and /mnt/initrd.img outside the chroot) [13:16] and the other thing that I said was "can you check if cryptsetup-initramfs was installed in your system? e.g. ls /mnt/var/lib/dpkg/info/cryptsetup-initramfs.*" [13:16] which also assumed a shell outside the chroot, so remove /mnt from the path before you try it [13:16] (or chroot and do the usual apt policy cryptsetup-initramfs) [13:16] sorry mgedmin i did that now, and it listed a very long list [13:17] inside chroot [13:17] I'm sorry, I'm not being explicit enough [13:17] you had an error "/lib/cryptsetup/askpass: not found" [13:18] I suggested you check if that file existed inside the initramfs image with lsinitramfs [13:18] since the output is long and manually looking for it would be a pain [13:18] try lsinitramfs /initrd.img | grep askpass [13:18] ok let me try grepping for it [13:19] I'm expecting it will produce no output because the file isn't there, like the error said [13:19] but this allows us to be methodical and verify everything (grub might have used the wrong initramfs image maybe) [13:19] mgedmin, yes you're right, no output. file not there [13:19] right, so next question is: is the cryptsetup-initramfs package installed [13:19] ok one sec [13:21] (the askpass binary comes from the cryptsetup-run package, but cryptsetup-initramfs is responsible for copying it into the initramfs image) [13:26] ok mgedmin in chroot, i did ls /mnt/var/lib/dpkg/info/cryptsetup-initramfs.* and nothing. I also did ls /mnt/var/lib/dpkg/info/cryptsetup-* and only 3 packages were listed. cryptsetup-bin.list, cryptsetup-bin.md5sums and cryptsetup-bin.postinst [13:27] miu5: apt install cryptsetup-initramfs [13:29] mgedmin, says unable to locate package [13:30] miu5: what ubuntu version do you have? [13:31] doh, it was added in 18.10; how was the initramfs configured in 18.04??? [13:31] 18.04 but its xubuntu (not that it makes any difference) [13:31] the test system I have is 19.04 [13:31] i dont know how initramfs was configured in 18.04 ? [13:33] ok, I have an 18.04 system (which doesn't use LUKS, but has the cryptsetup packages installed) [13:33] /lib/cryptsetup/askpass is shipped by cryptsetup itself, and copied into the initramfs by ... [13:34] ... the script shipped by cryptsetup itself, once again [13:34] specifically, /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot [13:35] so, uh, weird [13:35] ok, if you do update-initramfs -u -k all (inside the chroot) [13:35] and then check lsinitramfs /initrd.img | grep askpass again [13:35] will you see that the askpass was correctly installed? [13:37] i have done that but it never made a difference, cause i rebooted and had the same issue previously. i did it now again and no, askpass still not there [13:37] mgedmin [13:37] do you have a /etc/cryptsetup-initramfs/conf-hook ? [13:37] does it have any uncommented lines in it? [13:38] oh, I should've asked before -- when you do the update-initramfs, you don't see any errors or messages mentioning cryptsetup? [13:38] mgedmin, yes all lines are uncommented in conf-hook [13:39] that is very strange, all lines are _commented_ in mine [13:39] mgedmin, i see errors about the live USB that is inserted only [13:39] sorry i meant all lines are COMMENTED out. [13:39] heh [13:39] what does your /etc/crypttab look like? [13:40] mgedmin, crypttab has only one line of the drive with its uuid none luks,discard [13:42] this is the point where I would start adding debug print statements into /usr/share/initramfs-tools/hooks/cryptroot to see why it decided cryptsetup was not needed in the initramfs [13:42] but in order to save time and maybe get the system to boot how about if you uncommented the #CRYPTSETUP= line in /etc/cryptsetup-initramfs/conf-hook [13:42] and set it to CRYPTSETUP=y [13:42] and then ran update-initramfs -u -k all [13:42] and then checked if initramfs has what it needs [13:45] mgedmin, ok that worked. askpass is there now. [13:45] try rebooting? [13:47] oh mgedmin thank you im back in. but i dont understand what we just did [13:48] did we basically force cryptsetup to run inside initramfs? [13:50] mgedmin, must i also revert the CRYPTSETUP=y back to what it was or leave it that way for good? [13:53] leave it, it won't hurt [13:53] as long as you use LUKS for your root partition, initramfs needs to have cryptsetup in it [13:53] for some reason the autodetection didn't work and I don't know why [13:53] maybe because you ran update-initramfs in the live session? [13:53] what is the discussion channel again for ubuntu? [13:53] #ubuntu-discussion? [13:54] !discuss [13:54] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [13:54] maybe you can comment it out and run update-initramfs in your main system and then it'll autodetect correctly? [13:54] but why risk it, if it works now [13:54] ty [13:56] mgedmin, do you mean if i did it in the live session as in the Live USB session before chrooting? [13:57] mgedmin, because i did. do you think that caused an issue? [13:57] mgedmin, if i do it in the main system now, how would i know it worked if askpass is already there?? [13:57] update-initramfs re-creates the initramfs image, so you could do the check with lsinitramfs|grep askpass again [13:58] (and if it's missing, you can restore the CRYPTSETUP=y workaround and update-initramfs again) [14:09] mgedmin, ok thats weird. In the main system now... I commented out CRYPTSETUP=y and then update-initramfs -u -k all, then lsinitramfs /initrd.img | grep askpass and it finds it. [14:10] so autodetection works if you run update-initramfs after booting the full system, but not when you do it from a live session [14:11] might be explained by the fact that / is not a crypt device in the live session, and the hook doesn't realize the crypt device on /mnt will be needed for the actual system boot? [14:11] otoh the hook parses /etc/fstab in the chroot, not /proc/mounts, so it should figure things out [14:12] I don't think I can reason this out from first principles [14:14] mgedmin, Seems like you would have to force it in a live session the way we did, dont know if anyone else has experienced the same thing though. [14:14] im going to save some time here and just blame the issue on the live session. lol [14:15] mgedmin, thank you so much!! appreciate your help. === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 === im0nde_ is now known as im0nde === saint__ is now known as saint_ === Grldfrdom_ is now known as Grldfrdom [15:18] hi, how often i must update ubuntu on personal pc? === Grldfrdom is now known as Grldfrdom_ [15:18] or i can off update? [15:22] fobo7: you should try to stay current with the latest LTS release which is every 2 years. Or at least every other. [15:22] fobo7: when updates are out= update [15:23] @leftyfb Thank you, what happens if you update and something breaks, how can you undo it? [15:24] Gusj: depends on what broken and how [15:24] Gusj: there is no "undoing" an install [15:24] install/upgrade of the OS/release [15:26] @leftyfb I understand.. I found somewhere this 'apt--simulate' and when you install another driver and it goes wrong, how can you uninstall a driver or app? [15:27] Odd, I'm trying to build tmux 2.9a from source but I can't find the `aclocal` command. [15:27] (which is required in tmux's autogen.sh script. [15:27] you can uninstall a debian package (deb), using apt (or dpkg, but apt is better): sudo apt remove packagename (alternatively, to also remove configuration files: sudo apt purge packagename) [15:27] Gusj: ^ [15:28] Gusj: if you prefer GUIs, you can do this using synaptic. [15:28] @tomreyn Thank you Tom, copied it and put it in my notes.. [15:28] Gusj: lets stick with problems you actually have. Not the infinite amount of problems you could possibly have [15:30] Hello, I'm reading the manual for the "find". I'm confused about the -regex option. Does it allow RegExp2 or RegExp3 regex version? And if so, I can use whatever regex I specify that also works on JavaScript Regexes (that's the only thing I'm familiar with.) [15:30] @leftyfb I am learning, been wrestling with a not recognized keyboard and trackpad on a laptop for 2 weeks now, this is about a problem I currently have, [15:30] Gusj: general documentation is available at https://help.ubuntu.com/ [15:30] Gusj: what exactly is the current problem you have? [15:30] k_sze, automake ; Gusj what's the laptop model ? [15:31] @ioria Toshiba Satellite C55-A5105 [15:31] ioria, odd, it's not listed: https://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=aclocal&mode=exactfilename&suite=bionic&arch=any [15:32] ioria, but indeed, installing automake gets me aclocal. [15:32] Gusj, and please state again the problem and if the kb works in a livecd [15:32] k_sze, ok [15:32] wedr: see the description of the -regextype option in the find(1) man page [15:32] @leftyfb keyboard and trackpad recognized but not activate in the kernel.. have tried many things, grub commands, etc.. many things no it does not work in live boot, not in ubuntustudio 19.04, ubuntustudio 18.04, ubuntu 16.04, and currently what it has is lubuntu 18.04 lts [15:33] tomreyn, Ah, thanks. Didn't know you need to specify regextype first [15:34] Gusj: How do you install without a keyboard? [15:34] ^ [15:35] @tomreyn Tom eysterday the user 'TJ-' was helping me and he found this: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=195471 there is a patch there, so I installed generic Kernel with the help of 'TJ-' and @ioria and booted to it its 4.15 something and still same problem, I have the path that on this site says it should fix it but I do not know how to apply it, since it is sensitive I thought of waiting for TJ- but maybe you or @ioria can help me to tr [15:35] y it? [15:35] bugzilla.kernel.org bug 195471 in Input Devices "Keyboard not working after resume with kernel 4.10.5" [Normal,New] [15:35] @leftyfb with usb and mouse keyboard [15:36] Gusj: have you confirmed in the BIOS that the keyboard actually works at all? [15:37] wedr: you don't need to specify it, but it provides choice on the type / implementation of regular expressions you prefer. [15:37] @tomreyn currenyl the only thing I can do with these comms in the grub /default: atkbd.reset=1 i8042.kbdreset=1 i8042.dumbkbd=1 acpi_osi=! \"acpi_osi=Windows 2013\ is to change the brightness of the screen with the keyboard and also activate/deactivate wifi with FN special keys, that is it [15:37] tomreyn, Thanks. It's sad I can't use ECMAscript Regex. [15:37] @leftyfb Yes been over the bios before I started the installations I had to install windows in order to update the bios, the original was 1.10 and I went up in steps until 1.40 [15:39] @leftyfb really check the bios thoroughly, and did a reset of the machine as well, with power button press x amount of time, etc.. [15:39] Gusj, that toshiba is quite old ; odd that the kb does not work at all [15:40] wedr: i don't know which implementation ECMAscript uses. Does it actuall yhave its own, or does it just reuse one of the other ones? [15:40] @ioria yes it is.. but there seems to be a bug a tthe kernel level with the machine, becuase the machine recognizes them, it is after the problem, that is why we tried the generic kernel 4.15 yesterday as you helped me install it [15:41] wedr: i guess the most classic one would be perl's [15:41] Helo can someone help me with recovering encrypted home dir [15:41] @ioria there is a patch here, this is a link that @TJ- sent yesterday, can you show me how I can apply this patch? have never done this before and don't want to mess this up [15:42] Gusj: i don't have time to look into this currently, maybe in ~ 5 hours if you'll still be around [15:42] @ioria here is the link of the BUG and PATCH : https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=195471 [15:42] bugzilla.kernel.org bug 195471 in Input Devices "Keyboard not working after resume with kernel 4.10.5" [Normal,New] [15:42] @tomreyn Thank you Tom no prob, I really appreciate it :) [15:43] Gusj, have you read the last comment in that bug report ? [15:44] Gusj, and that looks like a suspend issue [15:44] @ioria yes I have, that is why we thought yesterday to install a generic kernel 4.15 since that is also suggested in the bug msgs, that a kernel pre 4.19 might work [15:45]