[03:03] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: Making FW work with controls looks very doable. I think if controls finds the snd FW modules loaded it can go through and unload them and load the required modules manually before trying to run jackd. We may have to tweak the udev rules somewhat to make the FW device audio group accessable or the same bit that does module (un)loading can check them for correctness
[03:07] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: A device is supposed to be getting shipped to me so I can work on it. I guess I should be seeing about getting a FW PCIe card... and cable to match.
[03:44] <Eickmeyer> I say let's do it. This is a great development to get that equipment finally.
[03:44] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer:  next cycle
[03:44] <Eickmeyer> Naturally.
[03:50] <OvenWerks> might be an idea to add a user script that gets run before jack starts, after... before stop and after stop.
[03:50] <OvenWerks> just straight if executable run stuff.
[04:11] <Eickmeyer> Yeah, that's a good idea.
[04:11] <Eickmeyer> That way they can do what they want. Perhaps a second dialog?
[04:11] <Eickmeyer> It's getting a little cluttered as it is.
[04:13] <OvenWerks> No dialog, just four files in ~/.config/ubuntustudio-control/ called prestart.sh poststart.sh prestop.sh and poststop.sh
[04:13] <OvenWerks> if the files are there, they are run, otherwise not.
[04:14] <Eickmeyer> We'd need to add that info to the manpages and wiki.
[04:14] <OvenWerks> Yup... but honestly, the next time someone asks to help... getting proper documentation would be a great help
[04:15] <Eickmeyer> That might be a good place for sofastrangler next time we see him.
[04:40] <OvenWerks> I even have a thought to add a ? icon at the end of each row with a help dialog... or at least a hover tip.
[15:16] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: confirm that (as of yesterday) missing icons are fixed on Iso
[15:17] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I can also confirm that qtractor menus now work.
[15:18] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I did check and jack does not complain about memlock issues
[15:18] <OvenWerks> (all of this just running the iso live)
[15:25] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: The first install slide has the old back drop...
[15:27] <OvenWerks> it may be better to use the rightside or extra display as backdrop so it stays current a bit longer... of course for 20.04 a whole new look may happen so maybe not.
[15:42] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: you were talking about using a different tab for some audio setup functions. Question: should there be a subset of tabs in audio setup?
[15:42]  * OvenWerks does reboot
[15:51] <OvenWerks> The default theme does work well with those horible gnome style applications that force their own styling on everyone.... but both are (as I alreadysaid) horrible. They make desktop use more difficult. First thing I change for my personal use.
[15:51] <OvenWerks> however, I agree it is the best one to use
[16:07] <OvenWerks> qjackctl is still wonky... when first setting to use tray icon it can't find the right icon (I have not yet rebooted to fix that). left click does not work... middle click does show the box, middle click does not hide the box except if I move the box then middle click does hide the box. however, the next middle click then shows the box in the middle of the screen, not where it was moved to.
[16:50] <OvenWerks> Anyway, no time should be spent worrying about qjackctl's systray behaviour... though I will look at it in kubuntu(Studio) at some point.
[16:52] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I have not found any show stoppers in the current ISO.
[16:54] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer: I do have a list of things to change/add to controls next cycle :P
[16:56] <Eickmeyer> OvenWerks: I'm not going to update that slidshow every cycle since I don't have direct access to it. It's meant to be "generic". 
[16:56] <Eickmeyer> (catching up)
[16:57] <Eickmeyer> Just organizing Controls might be nice as it gets more cluttered.
[16:58] <Eickmeyer> Belive it or not, the Materia theme (our default) is somewhat based on Adwaita, which is why the GNOME apps work well with it.
[16:59] <Eickmeyer> qjackctl is stuck at 0.5.0, which is likely based on an old Qt version. Might explain some idiosyncrocies it ahs.
[16:59] <Eickmeyer> *has
[16:59] <Eickmeyer> RE: list: cool
[16:59]  * Eickmeyer end catchup