[02:41] <qxanu> Does anyone else have a keyboard input problem after opening a few windows?
[02:43] <qxanu> Bionic Beaver xubuntu is the version, on an older Dell laptop.
[02:43] <qxanu> The next time I get on I intend to replace the xserver-xorg-input-all package.  I'm hoping that will help.
[05:27] <Regor>  no bell in terminal applications though it is enabled in terminal settings .  how to fix this ?
[05:29] <diogenes_> Regor, lsmod | grep pcspkr
[05:29] <diogenes_> what do you get?
[05:29] <Regor> wait
[05:30] <Regor> no error !
[05:31] <Regor> no output
[05:31] <diogenes_> and nothing showed up?
[05:31] <Regor> nothing
[05:31] <diogenes_> ok
[05:31] <diogenes_> modprobe pcspkr
[05:31] <Regor> ok
[05:32] <diogenes_> then lsmod | grep pcspkr
[05:32] <Regor> modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'pcspkr': Operation not permitted
[05:32] <diogenes_> with sudo
[05:32] <Regor> ok
[05:33] <Regor> no output
[05:34] <diogenes_> lsmod | grep pcspkr
[05:34] <Regor> with sudo?
[05:34] <diogenes_> no
[05:34] <Regor> ok
[05:34] <Regor> pcspkr                 16384  0
[05:35] <diogenes_> now try the bell.
[05:35] <Regor> ok
[05:35] <Regor> ping me
[05:35] <diogenes_> Regor,
[05:36] <Regor> no sound
[05:36] <Unit193> What IRC client are you using?
[05:36] <diogenes_> open a new terminal and hit backspace
[05:36] <Regor> weechat
[05:37] <Regor> no sound
[05:38] <Regor> volume is set full
[05:40] <diogenes_> does this work: beep -f 5000 -l 50 -r 2
[05:41] <Regor> Command 'beep' not found, but can be installed with:
[05:42] <diogenes_> try: xset b on
[05:42] <Regor> i should study xfce terminal docs
[05:42] <Regor> ok
[05:43] <Regor> no sound
[05:43] <diogenes_> this might help: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PC_speaker
[05:44] <Regor> thanks
[05:44] <Regor> xfce docs?
[05:44] <Regor> ok
[06:27] <delt> hello
[06:27] <delt> this is me from mint 19.2
[06:28] <delt> xubuntu latest, irc fails to connect :/
[06:28] <delt> (from link in installer)
[06:29] <Unit193> The link to https://webchat.freenode.net ..?
[06:31] <delt> yeah webchat.freennode.net/#xubuntu
[06:32] <delt> at least that's what the browser shows when you click it with the mouse
[06:33] <delt> oh btw how much RAM minimum you recommend for using very basic tasks? (e-mail, sometimes youtube videos etc) ...?
[06:34] <delt> in mint (also derived from ubuntu) 2GB works well, how about xubuntu?
[06:34] <Unit193> The biggest thing is going to be the browser, firefox and chrome eat tons of ram  Perhaps look into installing youtube-dl and mpv.
[06:34] <Unit193> Xubuntu itself will have zero issues with 2G, that's what I use (though it's not really the best with firefox, all the time..)
[06:35] <delt> Unit193: yeah agreed with that.... firefox (especially as an open source, multiplatform project) should eat up LOTS less mem.... :/
[06:36] <delt> chrome is also good, but more limited in terms of licensing etc...
[06:36] <Unit193> I even have an Xubuntu-like system that only has 1G of ram, but I don't use firefox really on that.  It's mainly headless (still runs a GUI, but only VNC'd in or ssh.)
[06:37] <delt> anyway i prefer firefox for me personally (despite the bloat) ... but for friends/family, as long as it's not the microsuck "windows explorer" aka "edge" :)
[06:37] <Unit193> Anywho, see mpv, specifically with the --ytdl-format option.
[06:39] <delt> Unit193: i also have a home server, manages my whole home network, wifi, internetn connection etc.... been running slackware on a p4 / 256MB for over 15 years, mobo fried so for now it's running a spare mobo with 2GB ....didn't even need to reinstall :D
[06:39] <delt> internet**
[06:39] <delt> oh mobo on that home server fried like 2 or 3 weeks ago
[06:40] <delt> after a good 20 years of faithful service
[06:46] <delt> oh btw i must say, very nice distro :) testing it right now in a vm
[06:47] <delt> i was a slackware user since like the mid 1990's until like 2013 or 2014 when i tried out a few more "modern" distros and settled on mint.. with slack always running on my aforementioned hub machine :)
[06:48] <delt> iirc i tried this one (xubuntu) but there was some issues with it.... anyway i'll keep you guys posted
[06:48] <delt> thanks again very much for (what so far looks like) a very nice linux based os!!
[06:53] <Unit193> Sure thing.
[07:12] <delt> =)
[07:12] <delt> Unit193: just curious, are you part of the xubuntu dev/maintainer team?
[07:14] <Unit193> Yep.
[07:15] <Unit193> I assist with maintaining Xfce in Debian and Xubuntu both, actually.
[07:46] <delt> Unit193: ah, awesome :D i haven't directly contributed to the linux/foss world in years.... i'd really like to have the chance again, if possible
[07:46] <delt> s/years/almost a decade/
[07:47] <Unit193> Well if nothing else, Xubuntu could always use testers.
[08:02] <delt> ok, good to know... but for xfce i was kind of put off when ofourdan & co. just blatantly told me the IPC in my updates sucked cos my approach was too X11 specific, meanwhile 5 or 6 years later X11 is still the dominant graphic system on *nix other than apple :/
[08:02] <delt> that was like 2013 or 2014
[12:11] <Itai> hi all
[12:14] <Itai> trying to install dual boot win10/xubuntu after failing attempt to install ubuntu (installation hangs when "installing grub2")
[16:43] <yeaboi> hello there
[18:48] <neyder> Hello, I upgraded to xubuntu eoan las friday, and i'm getting random lockscreens ,  even if i disbled lockscreen after a while in config
[18:52] <Spass> hello neyder, my guess is that you have Light Locker AND xfce4-screensaver installed, do you have any Screensaver preferences in the main settings window now?
[18:54] <Spass> you can check if you have them both installed using "apt-cache policy light-locker" and "apt-cache policy xfce4-screensaver"
[18:54] <neyder> Hi Spass yup i gow screensaver and power settings
[18:55] <neyder> which i should remove, does upgrade process should remove it to?
[18:56] <Spass[m]> xfce4-screensaver is default in eoan, so I'd go with this one
[18:57] <Spass[m]> yeah, I think that the upgrade process should do a better job in this particulat case, not sure if that's easy tho
[18:57] <neyder> xfce4-screensaver should conflicts with ligh-locker
[18:57] <neyder> or something