[00:43] <magic_ninja> will kubuntu be forcing everyone to use snaps?
[00:58] <OerHeks> magic_ninja, no. but 3rd party developers might.
[00:59] <magic_ninja> I saw it was included in apt. Is it just a conscious choice? As in we select what we prefer to install?
[01:01] <OerHeks> no, not in apt. snaps are available in softwarecenter / muon
[01:27] <magic_ninja> what is this I keep hearing about ubuntu 19.10 using apt as a frontend for snap
[01:28] <magic_ninja> I'm referencing this video in particular: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-5EJ4PrV9I
[01:34] <magic_ninja> Here is another one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMPTp4Hjbhg
[01:37] <OerHeks> not watching that.
[01:38] <OerHeks> snap install <package>   vs apt install <package> ...
[01:38] <OerHeks> you can easily find that, so i guess you waste your time on that youtube
[01:38] <OerHeks> digital waste is bad
[04:19] <magic_ninja> OerHeks, I don't believe I did. The point is about apt installing snaps as opposed to installing repository packages.
[04:20] <magic_ninja> to wit: apt install <package> installing a snap and not a .deb package.
[04:36] <OerHeks> no, it gives a suggestion https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wHHptjwxQh/
[05:02] <valorie> I would assume that someone was willing to make a snap but that nobody in Debian or Ubuntu was willing to package spotify
[05:04] <OerHeks> my best bet: independant updates, snap and apt are seperate
[06:27] <lordievader> Good morning
[10:48] <arash> Hi
[11:20] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
 Does anybody know how to connect a mobile modem  (Nokia C7 phone) to use the internet on it to connect the PC to the internet? Have tried multiple times & it hadn't worked.I know it's possible as I have Kubuntu on my old laptop before it broke & was able to connect my phone & use the exact same phone as a modem.Thanks!
[15:47] <viewer|11> hi guys, please help me out
[15:48] <viewer|11> I wanted to switch driver for touchpad on kubuntu 18.04 to xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[15:48] <viewer|11> and it complained something about missing xserver-xorg-core
[15:49] <viewer|11> so I installed core first, then synaptics
[15:49] <viewer|11> rebooted and I'm thrown in terminal
[15:50] <viewer|11> it doesn't boot to xorg anymore, do you have some links I should read?
[15:51] <diogenes_> viewer|11, look for any xorg.confs in /etc/X11 and /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[15:56] <viewer|11> diogenes_ I don't see xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[15:56] <viewer|11> I don't see xorg.conf.d folder neither
[15:57] <diogenes_> viewer|11, then remove the conflicting packages.
[16:06] <viewer|11> diogenes_ did sudo apt purge xserver-xorg-input-synaptics
[16:06] <viewer|11> rebooted and still no .conf files in X11
[16:06] <diogenes_> and core?
[16:07] <viewer|11> if I want to remove xserver-xorg-core it wants to delete nvidia-340 also
[16:07] <viewer|11> I guess I'll try anyway
[16:08] <diogenes_> then don't.
[16:08] <viewer|11> ok
[16:08] <diogenes_> reboot
[16:09] <viewer|11> does it matter if I'm using "tty1" or 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 ?
[16:09] <viewer|11> OK rebooted
[16:09] <diogenes_> doesn't matter.
[16:13] <viewer|11> diogenes_ I'm still thrown in tty1
[16:13] <viewer|11> after reboot
[16:14] <diogenes_> ls /usr/share/xsessions/
[16:14] <diogenes_> what do you get?
[16:21] <viewer|11> diogenes_ plasma.desktop is inside
[16:22] <diogenes_> viewer|11, cat /usr/share/xsessions/plasma.desktop | grep Exec
[16:22] <diogenes_> paste here what you get.
[16:23] <viewer|11> diogenes_ Exec=/usr/bin/startkde
[16:23] <viewer|11> and
[16:23] <viewer|11> TryExec=/usr/bin/startkde
[16:23] <diogenes_> ok now run: startkde
[16:23] <diogenes_> and see what errors you are getting
[16:23] <diogenes_> and where it gets stuck.
[16:25] <viewer|11> diogenes_ $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server
[16:26] <diogenes_> viewer|11, run: sudo systemctl restart sddm
[16:29] <viewer|11> diogenes_ it returns nothing
[16:29] <diogenes_> viewer|11, now: export DISPLAY=:0.0
[16:30] <diogenes_> then: startkde
[16:31] <viewer|11> diogenes_ again returns $DISPLAY is not set or cannot connect to the X server
[16:33] <diogenes_> viewer|11, echo $DISPLAY
[16:33] <diogenes_> what does it say?
[16:34] <viewer|11> diogenes_ :0.0
[16:36] <diogenes_> viewer|11, ok i have to go now for awhile, emanwhile you can try this: sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop plasma-desktop plasma-desktop-data sddm xorg xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-video-intel && sudo dpkg-reconfigure sddm
[16:36] <diogenes_> reboot fterwards
[16:36] <viewer|11> diogenes_ I'll try, thank you very much for your effort
[16:37] <diogenes_> you'ew welcome
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[17:10] <user|65654> Hello and good evening, I'm having system freezes on Kubuntu 18.04.3 LTS. Almost always when using Firefox. The system becomes completly unresponsive. Can someone help me to identify the cause?
[17:11] <diogenes_> user|65654, how much ram?
[17:11] <user|65654> 32 GiB
[17:12] <diogenes_> user|65654, inxi -f
[17:12] <diogenes_> pastebin
[17:12] <diogenes_> sorry inxi -F
[17:14] <user|65654> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/H8yPcrq6d6/
[17:19] <diogenes_> user|65654, in ff about:config try layers.acceleration.force true and restart ff.
[17:23] <user|65654> done
[17:23] <diogenes_> see if you get any improvements.
[17:26] <user|65654> Thank you. I'll try the website that crashed the system. But the freezes feel random, so it might take time. (I'm saving /var/log after each freeze)
[18:00] <tomreyn> user|65654: this is how you can reboot without loosing data that's still in the write cache, and with closing the file systems properly so the system does not need to run a file system check on reboot:
[18:00] <tomreyn> !sysrq
[18:01] <tomreyn> Actually just S, U, B, because R, E, I are ignored on Ubuntu.
[18:02] <user|65654> I'll try that. I've noticed that the nic goes down too.
[19:05] <viewer|11> diogenes_ I'll try, thank you very much for
[19:05] <viewer|11> diogenes_ sorry
[19:06] <viewer|11> diogenes_ sudo apt-get install --reinstall ... && sudo dpkg-reconfigure ... worked
[19:06] <viewer|11> I can get in plasma back