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[14:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T122: New Manual URL Design] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T122#2436
 https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/1018
[14:38] <wxl[m]> https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/1018
[14:38] <wxl[m]> We should pull that in. That's been an annoying problem now finally resolved! 
[14:41] <wxl[m]> So that was interesting. From FastHub there was no share option to RiotX and I just hit Telegram. It sent without further confirmation, but never showed up. So I copied and pasted here. And then deleted on Telegram. And then it showed up. Wth. Told you Telegram sucks. 
[14:44] <wxl[m]> Also new Calamares https://calamares.io/calamares-3.2.14-is-out/
[14:45] <wxl[m]> Especially of note there is that the legacy GeoIP config is no longer supported so we'll have to fix settings
[14:45] <wxl[m]> @kc2bez ^
[14:54] <kc2bez> wxl: I saw that. We converted all the settings and are not using the legacy style. 
[14:55] <wxl[m]> K cool. You planning on grabbing the new release? 
[14:57] <kc2bez> Should I do that before release?
[14:58] <kc2bez> Also not sure if it will resolve any of the geoip issues folks were having but I did notice some refactoring took place. 
[15:07] <kc2bez> wxl[m]: I also sent you a pm on IRC. 
 Get everything uploaded today please
 I'm about to go bumping non RC tasks to 20.04
 kc2bez: Could you communicate with [ade] and tell him we have a release in two weeks?
 Just to make sure we have our ducks in a row for that
 Today at lunch I'm going to get stuff uploaded
[15:23] <kc2bez> @tsimonq2 I will send you a pm shortly too. 
 Thanks.
[15:31] <wxl[m]> @kc2bez afk so if it's urgent you can use some other means including (ew) telegram
 I think it's fair to say that it's Real Life stuff, which is totally fine. I'll let him elaborate if he wishes
[15:36] <kc2bez> wxl[m]: not super urgent just wanted to fill in the blanks for you. 
 New Cala cleared with release team
 Art should be no issue
 PCManFM should also be no issue since it's bugfix
[15:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T121: nm-tray fails to build] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T121#2438
[15:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2442
[15:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2443
[15:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#2444
[15:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T75: need new Lenny!] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T75#2451
[15:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T72: tweak minimum requirements] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T72#2452
[15:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T121: nm-tray fails to build] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T121#2456
[15:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T56: Transfer testcases to the actual testcase branch] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T56#2457
[15:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T92: 19.10 manual changes] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T92#2458
[15:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T121: nm-tray fails to build] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T121#2460
 The 19.10 task has been cleaned up
 If there are any other tasks that you think need to be done prior to release, please add them ASAP
 Phab is going down in 30 minutes for some regular maintenance. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes
 My biggest concern is with shortcut, I know @The_LoudSpeaker is on exmas and I'm full with work, but I we can't fix that it will be a major issue.
 *exams
 What are the current problems?
 We need to grab latest from git
 or apply 18 patches.
 lxqt-globalkeys right?
 yes
 Okay, is that all?
 yes
 Have you tested with the packages in the unstable CI?
 I've been testing latest git (compile in my system) and is working ok
 no, haven't tested ci
 Okay. I just want to communicate that we're two weeks away from release and there's little wiggle room for iteration on it if I were to go ahead and JFD that.
 Is that okay?
 JFD?
 John Fitzgerald Donald?
 Just Freaking Do :)
 Just Do
 Yes
 I don' have time to do it since it's a grab  from unreleased code. If it were a released version I know how to do it and I will be confident doing it.
 Since I have little time to do it.
 I can do it, I just want you to know that we're on the hook to fix it if this new version is broken.
 I will be available this Saturday night. Will do it then.
 I can do it, it'll take me < 5 mins :}
 Go ahead then. I will test.
 I've tested compile versio, but it would be better to test with ci/unstable
 Is there a way I could only take that package from ci/unstable?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Go ahead then. I will test.], Test with this first ASAP and then I can do the cherry picking
 @HMollerCl [Is there a way I could only take that package from ci/unstable?], Yes
 Go to the PPA page in Launchpad
 You might have to pull down that whole stack
 @tsimonq2 [Test with this first ASAP and then I can do the cherry picking], Can't do till Saturday sorry. And if you can wait till Saturday then I can only do it then.
 @HMollerCl [Is there a way I could only take that package from ci/unstable?], Wget from ppa?
 Otherwise just write out a manual testcase and I can JFD that
 @tsimonq2 [Otherwise just write out a manual testcase and I can JFD that], I can do that now.: … Check if shortcuts are not repeated after multiple reboots. … Done.
 Define "repeated" more precisely
 @The_LoudSpeaker [I can do that now.: … Check if shortcuts are not repeated after multiple reboots. …], We can add our own config when this gets fixed.
 @tsimonq2 [Otherwise just write out a manual testcase and I can JFD that], test is only to erase duplicates shortcuts and do several logout/login and see if shortcuts are duplicated and if SUper_L (for menu) or Meta+R (for launcher) stop working.
 @tsimonq2 [Define "repeated" more precisely], Open shortcut settings. … See if you have any shortcut entries repeated.
 There is no need to reboot, logout/login in enough.
 @HMollerCl [test is only to erase duplicates shortcuts and do several logout/login and see i …], +1
 Is cherry picking globalkeys all I need to do or do I have to apply anything else?
 @HMollerCl [There is no need to reboot, logout/login in enough.], Might also try restarting globalkeys from session settings once/twice.
 @tsimonq2 [Is cherry picking globalkeys all I need to do or do I have to apply anything els …], Nope. Config files are already in default settings. Should work
 @The_LoudSpeaker [We can add our own config when this gets fixed.], Scratch this.
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Might also try restarting globalkeys from session settings once/twice.], es, it wouldn't hurt
 *yes
 Okay
 @tsimonq2 how I should search for lxqt-globalkyes ci/unstable ppa in launchpad?
 https://launchpad.net/~lxqt/+archive/ubuntu/ppa this is old
 https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci-proposed/+build/17838510
 thanks!
 Here you have the overview: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci/+packages
[16:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rNMTRAYPACKAGING02814a7ea5e1: Fix FTBS of nm-tray] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rNMTRAYPACKAGING02814a7ea5e1
[16:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rNMTRAYPACKAGING792d166148e5: Merge branch 'ci/stable' into ci/unstable] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rNMTRAYPACKAGING792d166148e5
 My upload to ci/stable has closed https://phab.lubuntu.me/D48
[16:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Fix FTBS of nm-tray: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D48
 Is this normal?
 @aptghetto [https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci-proposed/+build/17 …], the ppa doesn't have globalkeys, I would need to install the .deb directly is that correct?
 this pa https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci-proposed
 https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci
 But I have normally downloaded only the package and installed it with `sudo apt install ./NAME.deb` in a vm
 I did with the ppa
 only the package I want and then disable ppa
[17:35] <wxl> @kc2bez: pm replied to
[17:37] <kc2bez> thanks wxl 
[17:38] <wxl> @tsimonq2: you bumped @The_LoudSpeaker's xscreensaver fix? 
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: you bumped @The_LoudSpeaker's xscreensaver fix?], Umm what?
[17:43] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker: @tsimonq2 removed https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21 from the 19.10 subtasks in his cleanup process
[17:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Our xscreensaver theme is too old: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21
 @wxl [<wxl> @tsimonq2: you bumped @The_LoudSpeaker's xscreensaver fix?], Is there a fix already in there?
 Not yet. There is a clean list of themes we can use but it needs cleaning. Also, we are considering creating a new one.
 We don't have time for that this cycle
 Unless you can get that done by EOD Friday
[19:08] <wxl> @tsimonq2: totally easy to fix it
[19:09] <wxl> the task should be split into separate tasks
[19:09] <wxl> the two that can be done easy:
[19:09] <wxl>  1. default wallpapers
[19:09] <wxl>  2. THE default wallpaper
[19:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T122: New Manual URL Design] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T122#2463
[20:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8920e78af2cc: Reword summary of shortcut keys] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8920e78af2cc
[20:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8d02d95b3c58: Update summary of Shortcut keys] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8d02d95b3c58
 @tsimonq2 I tested ci/unstable lxqt-globalkeys and is working as expected.
 Nice!
[20:58] <krytarik> https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel/tree/debian/patches/lubuntu_01_default_network_channel.patch - any good reason other than just copypasting stuff from elsewhere to use non-SSL and connect over irc.ubuntu.com there, rather than using 'chat.freenode.net:+6697' to use SSL and also make cert verification work?
 No good reason whatsoever
[20:59] <wxl> ew
 Give me a patch and I'll sponsor it
[20:59] <wxl> how did that even get there?
[20:59] <wxl> i thought we provided that through default settings?
 nooope
[20:59] <wxl> why not?
[21:00] <wxl> we could get all the lubuntu channels in there
[21:00] <wxl> plus lxqt and calamares and ... :)
 Look into it
[21:02] <wxl> make a task :)
 do we have standup now?
 I'm confused with daylight savings time
 I think so
[21:10] <wxl> oh yikes yes
[21:10] <wxl> sorry ya'll
[21:10] <wxl> !standup
[21:11] <lynorian> \o
[21:14] <wxl> wow ok no one's here :)
[21:14] <wxl> sooooo i guess you can go ahead lyn
[21:14] <lynorian> Printer property tabs have a lot more detail like 4 paragraphs
[21:14] <lynorian> Screengrab tray icon functionality
[21:14] <lynorian> add switch between ALSA and pulseaudio 
[21:14] <lynorian> Work on panel rewording  
[21:14] <lynorian> Many minor rewords and edits 
[21:15] <lynorian> and worked some with tsimonq2 on getting a new url scheme for the manual
[21:16] <lynorian> really condensced this week that printer properiteis has like 4 new paragraphs in it
[21:16] <wxl> very cool
[21:16] <wxl> amazing work as always
 \o
[21:18] <lynorian> I kind of really need to go get groceries today   so may not stick around that much longer
[21:18] <wxl> ok thanks for the help lyn
[21:18] <wxl> we couldn't do it without you!!!
[21:19] <wxl> go ahead hans
 it's amazing @lynorian
 nothing new except ci/unstable lxqt-globalkeys test. We didn't had upstream release so I undertsand that @tsimonq2 will upgrade to git.
 HAving had much time to look ath cala geoip issue.
 *Haven't
 but I've seen it happen in different places in Santiago
 EOF
[21:21] <wxl> thx hans
[21:21] <wxl> i haven't done much. poked a bit at the cala/geoip thing. edited the testing wiki. didn't really *finish* anything, so..
 did you found out anything new on geoip?
[21:24] <wxl> no
[21:24] <wxl> except for noticing raman had no issues
[21:24] <wxl> so that's weird
[21:25] <wxl> i did find an upstream issue with it not working for someone else
 @HMollerCl [did you found out anything new on geoip?], no isues too
[21:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T56: Transfer testcases to the actual testcase branch] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T56#2464
 @wxl at this point we are the only ones here that have the problem
[21:32] <wxl> @HMollerCl where's your proxy located?
[21:33] <kc2bez> Here for a few minutes. 
[21:34] <wxl> fire away dano
[21:34] <kc2bez> I didn't have any issues with my VPN when I tested that with cala
[21:34] <kc2bez> I spent some time looking at logs from others
[21:35] <kc2bez> it looks like for whatever reason cala couldn't figure out what was being returned. 
[21:36] <kc2bez> from the geoip service ^
[21:36] <kc2bez> not consistent for sure
[21:37] <kc2bez> not sure how much time I will have while I am away but I will try to stop in and do what I can
[21:37] <kc2bez> question
[21:38] <kc2bez> if I have time should I upload the cala version to CI or do a diff to eoan?
[21:38] <wxl> well i guess that depends on your confidence level
[21:39] <wxl> if it's high, just do eoan
[21:39] <kc2bez> ok fair enough. 
[21:39] <wxl> if you get it in sooner than later, we probably have some time to hack at it if need be
[21:39] <wxl> not so much come friday 
[21:40] <kc2bez> understood
[21:40] <wxl> but honestly what's the difference between building and testing a deb in a vm versus doing it in ci? not much. there's something, don't get me wrong. but not much.
[21:41] <kc2bez> true, it just gives others the opportunity to test before we upload. 
[21:41] <wxl> well so does a ppa upload
[21:42] <kc2bez> that is true as well. I just don't want to introduce anything new that I won't have time to test. 
[21:43] <wxl> right right
[21:43] <wxl> also remember you've got limited time
[21:44] <wxl> i'd say avoid ci, but that's just my opinion
[21:45] <kc2bez> ok fair enough. I will try for that. 
[21:48] <kc2bez> There is a big copyright addition that needs to be added I think for the appstream addition and I think we need to stop building against PythonQt since that is making the build fail in unstable CI. 
[21:49] <wxl> oi vey
[21:49] <kc2bez> another reason I am hesitant
[21:50] <wxl> good call. do ci.
[21:50] <kc2bez> ok. sounds like a plan. 
 I could test cala ci, live and update to ci and see what happens, does It helps wxl @kc2bez?
 Also, my proxy is in Chile, is from my work, but I also tested in my home w/o proxy, same issue
[21:59] <wxl> if it weren't for dan i'd say it's just that the americas are cursed
 Well, Dan is on default so, not sure if it works.
[22:00] <kc2bez> Good point Hans
 @kc2bez you could change default to test
[22:00] <wxl> you know.... i haven't checked while on my vpn..... i wonder...........
[22:01] <wxl> what do you mean about default/test?
 Default is ny
[22:01] <wxl> oh
[22:01] <kc2bez> right
[22:01] <wxl> yeah i tried all that and swapping time zones in different variations to no avail
[22:02] <kc2bez> it exists so that if you don't have an internet connection it will pin the map on ny
[22:02] <kc2bez> I don't know why that location was chosen but it comes from Calamares
[22:03] <wxl> right, it's hardcoded
[22:03] <wxl> you can remove any explicit configuration and you'll get ny
[22:03] <kc2bez> yes
[22:04] <kc2bez> I could however tell that I received America New York from geoip in the logs. 
[22:05] <kc2bez> and like I said my VPN that comes out in Japan also worked. 
[22:05] <kc2bez> so maybe it is a timing or race condition. 
[22:05] <kc2bez> ?
 We have no malfunction reports from outside americas, then?
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> I could however tell that I received America New York from geoip in the …], I also see cl for welcome in logs
[22:06] <wxl> i saw in this upstream issue there's some way to turn on some debugging about the timezone???
 You can run cala with -d
 @HMollerCl [We have no malfunction reports from outside americas, then?], all the times I've tried I haven't had any problems
[22:07] <wxl> not that, though
[22:08] <kc2bez> i did the -d but I don't know what the special timezone debug is. 
 @kc2bez I thought the default was in the conf file
[22:09] <kc2bez> it is but even if you wipe it out it still does ny
[22:09] <wxl> https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1240
[22:10] <wxl> "I enabled Timezone-Debug-Mode"
[22:10] <kc2bez> I saw that bug but I didn't have time to figure it out. 
[22:11] <wxl> it's "assumed fixed" in https://github.com/calamares/calamares/commit/0a1dc77f9be6b4c696e05fe218f7ff525d5bc702
[22:11] <wxl> which is in 3.2.14
[22:12] <wxl> so hurry up and get that up so we can test it @kc2bez :)
[22:14] <kc2bez> trust me it sounds like more fun right now 😁. All good news here though and we are getting ready to leave the hospital for the night and get some dinner. we should be back at the hotel in a little over an hour. 
[22:14] <wxl> i hear you :( but glad all is going good..
 Here but late. Work ran later as I've had back to back client calls today. Let me know if there's something needed to be tested in vm or anything as I have access to my Linux laptop fully again
 @wxl [<wxl> which is in 3.2.14], It is in ci/unstable? I can check that
 it isn't yet @HMollerCl the new version from git has been failing to build.
[22:57] <wxl> one could always build master and confirm it
 But if it fails to build in ci... It might fail in live too
[23:02] <wxl> more likely a packaging issue which is what @kc2bez alluded to above (see copyright mention)
[23:39] <kc2bez> you can see the build log here https://launchpadlibrarian.net/445130652/buildlog_ubuntu-eoan-amd64.calamares_3.2.12+git201910030114~eoan-0ubuntu1~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[23:39] <kc2bez> it fails on PythonQt^
 Missing depends
 apt-cache find PythonQt.h
 Or packages.ubuntu.com
 Add that as a build dep
 Voila
 well the issue with that is that we should already have the build depend
 Debian stopped building against PythonQt in February https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/extras/calamares/commit/b125acf24260f3fbf50ea2b547996871a517ab13