[00:00] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALfa9a190c88b3: Add print color as Gray checkbox] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALfa9a190c88b3 [05:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL4f6ff771b83b: Add printer options screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL4f6ff771b83b [06:41] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALb4023e85cc4c: Remove unnesecary whitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALb4023e85cc4c [06:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL47d40b6102c8: Remove uneeded whitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL47d40b6102c8 [06:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL655c78b50c4b: Reword summary of Window Effects] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL655c78b50c4b [06:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALcfcb3e690dbd: Reword launch compton just this once] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALcfcb3e690dbd [06:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL1eca766b9449: Fix capitilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL1eca766b9449 [06:59] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL0ab6aa283c73: Reword close keyboard shortcut] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL0ab6aa283c73 [14:10] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T122: New Manual URL Design] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T122#2436 [14:37] https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/1018 [14:38] https://github.com/lxqt/pcmanfm-qt/issues/1018 [14:38] Issue 1018 in lxqt/pcmanfm-qt "Excessive padding for mounted devices labels" [Open] [14:38] We should pull that in. That's been an annoying problem now finally resolved! [14:41] So that was interesting. From FastHub there was no share option to RiotX and I just hit Telegram. It sent without further confirmation, but never showed up. So I copied and pasted here. And then deleted on Telegram. And then it showed up. Wth. Told you Telegram sucks. [14:44] Also new Calamares https://calamares.io/calamares-3.2.14-is-out/ [14:45] Especially of note there is that the legacy GeoIP config is no longer supported so we'll have to fix settings [14:45] @kc2bez ^ [14:54] wxl: I saw that. We converted all the settings and are not using the legacy style. [14:55] K cool. You planning on grabbing the new release? [14:57] Should I do that before release? [14:58] Also not sure if it will resolve any of the geoip issues folks were having but I did notice some refactoring took place. [15:07] wxl[m]: I also sent you a pm on IRC. [15:20] Get everything uploaded today please [15:21] I'm about to go bumping non RC tasks to 20.04 [15:21] kc2bez: Could you communicate with [ade] and tell him we have a release in two weeks? [15:22] Just to make sure we have our ducks in a row for that [15:22] Today at lunch I'm going to get stuff uploaded [15:23] @tsimonq2 I will send you a pm shortly too. [15:23] Thanks. [15:31] @kc2bez afk so if it's urgent you can use some other means including (ew) telegram [15:32] I think it's fair to say that it's Real Life stuff, which is totally fine. I'll let him elaborate if he wishes [15:36] wxl[m]: not super urgent just wanted to fill in the blanks for you. [15:42] New Cala cleared with release team [15:42] Art should be no issue [15:42] PCManFM should also be no issue since it's bugfix [15:45] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T121: nm-tray fails to build] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T121#2438 [15:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2442 [15:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T96: investigate yshui's compton fork] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T96#2443 [15:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T59: fix keyboard shortcuts] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T59#2444 [15:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T75: need new Lenny!] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T75#2451 [15:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T72: tweak minimum requirements] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T72#2452 [15:51] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T121: nm-tray fails to build] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T121#2456 [15:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T56: Transfer testcases to the actual testcase branch] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T56#2457 [15:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T92: 19.10 manual changes] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T92#2458 [15:56] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T121: nm-tray fails to build] tsimonq2 (Simon Quigley) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T121#2460 [15:58] The 19.10 task has been cleaned up [15:59] If there are any other tasks that you think need to be done prior to release, please add them ASAP [16:03] Phab is going down in 30 minutes for some regular maintenance. It shouldn't take more than 5 minutes [16:05] My biggest concern is with shortcut, I know @The_LoudSpeaker is on exmas and I'm full with work, but I we can't fix that it will be a major issue. [16:06] *exams [16:06] What are the current problems? [16:06] We need to grab latest from git [16:06] or apply 18 patches. [16:06] lxqt-globalkeys right? [16:06] yes [16:06] Okay, is that all? [16:06] yes [16:07] Have you tested with the packages in the unstable CI? [16:07] I've been testing latest git (compile in my system) and is working ok [16:07] no, haven't tested ci [16:08] Okay. I just want to communicate that we're two weeks away from release and there's little wiggle room for iteration on it if I were to go ahead and JFD that. [16:08] Is that okay? [16:08] JFD? [16:08] John Fitzgerald Donald? [16:08] Just Freaking Do :) [16:08] Just Do [16:08] Yes [16:09] I don' have time to do it since it's a grab from unreleased code. If it were a released version I know how to do it and I will be confident doing it. [16:10] Since I have little time to do it. [16:10] I can do it, I just want you to know that we're on the hook to fix it if this new version is broken. [16:10] I will be available this Saturday night. Will do it then. [16:10] I can do it, it'll take me < 5 mins :} [16:10] Go ahead then. I will test. [16:11] I've tested compile versio, but it would be better to test with ci/unstable [16:11] Is there a way I could only take that package from ci/unstable? [16:11] @The_LoudSpeaker [Go ahead then. I will test.], Test with this first ASAP and then I can do the cherry picking [16:11] @HMollerCl [Is there a way I could only take that package from ci/unstable?], Yes [16:11] Go to the PPA page in Launchpad [16:11] You might have to pull down that whole stack [16:11] @tsimonq2 [Test with this first ASAP and then I can do the cherry picking], Can't do till Saturday sorry. And if you can wait till Saturday then I can only do it then. [16:12] @HMollerCl [Is there a way I could only take that package from ci/unstable?], Wget from ppa? [16:12] Otherwise just write out a manual testcase and I can JFD that [16:12] @tsimonq2 [Otherwise just write out a manual testcase and I can JFD that], I can do that now.: … Check if shortcuts are not repeated after multiple reboots. … Done. [16:13] Define "repeated" more precisely [16:13] @The_LoudSpeaker [I can do that now.: … Check if shortcuts are not repeated after multiple reboots. …], We can add our own config when this gets fixed. [16:13] @tsimonq2 [Otherwise just write out a manual testcase and I can JFD that], test is only to erase duplicates shortcuts and do several logout/login and see if shortcuts are duplicated and if SUper_L (for menu) or Meta+R (for launcher) stop working. [16:13] @tsimonq2 [Define "repeated" more precisely], Open shortcut settings. … See if you have any shortcut entries repeated. [16:14] There is no need to reboot, logout/login in enough. [16:14] @HMollerCl [test is only to erase duplicates shortcuts and do several logout/login and see i …], +1 [16:15] Is cherry picking globalkeys all I need to do or do I have to apply anything else? [16:15] @HMollerCl [There is no need to reboot, logout/login in enough.], Might also try restarting globalkeys from session settings once/twice. [16:15] @tsimonq2 [Is cherry picking globalkeys all I need to do or do I have to apply anything els …], Nope. Config files are already in default settings. Should work [16:16] @The_LoudSpeaker [We can add our own config when this gets fixed.], Scratch this. [16:19] @The_LoudSpeaker [Might also try restarting globalkeys from session settings once/twice.], es, it wouldn't hurt [16:19] *yes [16:23] Okay [16:30] @tsimonq2 how I should search for lxqt-globalkyes ci/unstable ppa in launchpad? [16:30] https://launchpad.net/~lxqt/+archive/ubuntu/ppa this is old [16:31] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci-proposed/+build/17838510 [16:31] thanks! [16:33] Here you have the overview: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci/+packages [16:44] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rNMTRAYPACKAGING02814a7ea5e1: Fix FTBS of nm-tray] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rNMTRAYPACKAGING02814a7ea5e1 [16:53] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rNMTRAYPACKAGING792d166148e5: Merge branch 'ci/stable' into ci/unstable] apt-ghetto (apt-ghetto) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rNMTRAYPACKAGING792d166148e5 [16:57] My upload to ci/stable has closed https://phab.lubuntu.me/D48 [16:57] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Fix FTBS of nm-tray: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D48 [16:58] Is this normal? [17:02] @aptghetto [https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci-proposed/+build/17 …], the ppa doesn't have globalkeys, I would need to install the .deb directly is that correct? [17:02] this pa https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci-proposed [17:05] https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci [17:07] But I have normally downloaded only the package and installed it with `sudo apt install ./NAME.deb` in a vm [17:14] I did with the ppa [17:14] only the package I want and then disable ppa [17:35] @kc2bez: pm replied to [17:37] thanks wxl [17:38] @tsimonq2: you bumped @The_LoudSpeaker's xscreensaver fix? [17:42] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: you bumped @The_LoudSpeaker's xscreensaver fix?], Umm what? [17:43] @The_LoudSpeaker: @tsimonq2 removed https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21 from the 19.10 subtasks in his cleanup process [17:43] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] Our xscreensaver theme is too old: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21 [18:04] @wxl [ @tsimonq2: you bumped @The_LoudSpeaker's xscreensaver fix?], Is there a fix already in there? [18:46] Not yet. There is a clean list of themes we can use but it needs cleaning. Also, we are considering creating a new one. [18:53] We don't have time for that this cycle [18:53] Unless you can get that done by EOD Friday [19:08] @tsimonq2: totally easy to fix it [19:09] the task should be split into separate tasks [19:09] the two that can be done easy: [19:09] 1. default wallpapers [19:09] 2. THE default wallpaper [19:35] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T122: New Manual URL Design] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T122#2463 [20:11] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8920e78af2cc: Reword summary of shortcut keys] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8920e78af2cc [20:13] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8d02d95b3c58: Update summary of Shortcut keys] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8d02d95b3c58 [20:35] @tsimonq2 I tested ci/unstable lxqt-globalkeys and is working as expected. [20:46] Nice! [20:58] https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/quassel/tree/debian/patches/lubuntu_01_default_network_channel.patch - any good reason other than just copypasting stuff from elsewhere to use non-SSL and connect over irc.ubuntu.com there, rather than using 'chat.freenode.net:+6697' to use SSL and also make cert verification work? [20:59] No good reason whatsoever [20:59] ew [20:59] Give me a patch and I'll sponsor it [20:59] how did that even get there? [20:59] * tsimonq2 cowers in fear at wxl's wrath [20:59] i thought we provided that through default settings? [20:59] nooope [20:59] why not? [21:00] we could get all the lubuntu channels in there [21:00] plus lxqt and calamares and ... :) [21:00] Look into it [21:02] make a task :) [21:04] do we have standup now? [21:04] I'm confused with daylight savings time [21:04] I think so [21:10] oh yikes yes [21:10] sorry ya'll [21:10] !standup [21:10] standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez @The_LoudSpeaker wxl[m] guiverc it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call! Afterwards, in order of announcement, post your items and be sure to mention when you're done. [21:11] \o [21:14] wow ok no one's here :) [21:14] sooooo i guess you can go ahead lyn [21:14] Printer property tabs have a lot more detail like 4 paragraphs [21:14] Screengrab tray icon functionality [21:14] add switch between ALSA and pulseaudio [21:14] Work on panel rewording [21:14] Many minor rewords and edits [21:15] and worked some with tsimonq2 on getting a new url scheme for the manual [21:16] really condensced this week that printer properiteis has like 4 new paragraphs in it [21:16] very cool [21:16] amazing work as always [21:18] \o [21:18] I kind of really need to go get groceries today so may not stick around that much longer [21:18] ok thanks for the help lyn [21:18] we couldn't do it without you!!! [21:19] go ahead hans [21:19] it's amazing @lynorian [21:19] nothing new except ci/unstable lxqt-globalkeys test. We didn't had upstream release so I undertsand that @tsimonq2 will upgrade to git. [21:20] HAving had much time to look ath cala geoip issue. [21:20] *Haven't [21:20] but I've seen it happen in different places in Santiago [21:20] EOF [21:21] thx hans [21:21] i haven't done much. poked a bit at the cala/geoip thing. edited the testing wiki. didn't really *finish* anything, so.. [21:21] did you found out anything new on geoip? [21:24] no [21:24] except for noticing raman had no issues [21:24] so that's weird [21:25] i did find an upstream issue with it not working for someone else [21:28] @HMollerCl [did you found out anything new on geoip?], no isues too [21:28] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T56: Transfer testcases to the actual testcase branch] guiverc (Chris Guiver) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T56#2464 [21:29] @wxl at this point we are the only ones here that have the problem [21:32] @HMollerCl where's your proxy located? [21:33] Here for a few minutes. [21:34] fire away dano [21:34] I didn't have any issues with my VPN when I tested that with cala [21:34] I spent some time looking at logs from others [21:35] it looks like for whatever reason cala couldn't figure out what was being returned. [21:36] from the geoip service ^ [21:36] not consistent for sure [21:37] not sure how much time I will have while I am away but I will try to stop in and do what I can [21:37] question [21:38] if I have time should I upload the cala version to CI or do a diff to eoan? [21:38] well i guess that depends on your confidence level [21:39] if it's high, just do eoan [21:39] ok fair enough. [21:39] if you get it in sooner than later, we probably have some time to hack at it if need be [21:39] not so much come friday [21:40] understood [21:40] but honestly what's the difference between building and testing a deb in a vm versus doing it in ci? not much. there's something, don't get me wrong. but not much. [21:41] true, it just gives others the opportunity to test before we upload. [21:41] well so does a ppa upload [21:42] that is true as well. I just don't want to introduce anything new that I won't have time to test. [21:43] right right [21:43] also remember you've got limited time [21:44] i'd say avoid ci, but that's just my opinion [21:45] ok fair enough. I will try for that. [21:48] There is a big copyright addition that needs to be added I think for the appstream addition and I think we need to stop building against PythonQt since that is making the build fail in unstable CI. [21:49] oi vey [21:49] another reason I am hesitant [21:50] good call. do ci. [21:50] ok. sounds like a plan. [21:58] I could test cala ci, live and update to ci and see what happens, does It helps wxl @kc2bez? [21:59] Also, my proxy is in Chile, is from my work, but I also tested in my home w/o proxy, same issue [21:59] if it weren't for dan i'd say it's just that the americas are cursed [22:00] Well, Dan is on default so, not sure if it works. [22:00] Good point Hans [22:00] @kc2bez you could change default to test [22:00] you know.... i haven't checked while on my vpn..... i wonder........... [22:01] what do you mean about default/test? [22:01] Default is ny [22:01] oh [22:01] right [22:01] yeah i tried all that and swapping time zones in different variations to no avail [22:02] it exists so that if you don't have an internet connection it will pin the map on ny [22:02] I don't know why that location was chosen but it comes from Calamares [22:03] right, it's hardcoded [22:03] you can remove any explicit configuration and you'll get ny [22:03] yes [22:04] I could however tell that I received America New York from geoip in the logs. [22:05] and like I said my VPN that comes out in Japan also worked. [22:05] so maybe it is a timing or race condition. [22:05] ? [22:06] We have no malfunction reports from outside americas, then? [22:06] @kc2bez [ I could however tell that I received America New York from geoip in the …], I also see cl for welcome in logs [22:06] i saw in this upstream issue there's some way to turn on some debugging about the timezone??? [22:07] You can run cala with -d [22:07] @HMollerCl [We have no malfunction reports from outside americas, then?], all the times I've tried I haven't had any problems [22:07] not that, though [22:08] i did the -d but I don't know what the special timezone debug is. [22:08] @kc2bez I thought the default was in the conf file [22:09] it is but even if you wipe it out it still does ny [22:09] https://github.com/calamares/calamares/issues/1240 [22:10] Issue 1240 in calamares/calamares "GeoIP seems not to work in locale module" [Closed] [22:10] "I enabled Timezone-Debug-Mode" [22:10] I saw that bug but I didn't have time to figure it out. [22:11] it's "assumed fixed" in https://github.com/calamares/calamares/commit/0a1dc77f9be6b4c696e05fe218f7ff525d5bc702 [22:11] which is in 3.2.14 [22:12] so hurry up and get that up so we can test it @kc2bez :) [22:14] trust me it sounds like more fun right now 😁. All good news here though and we are getting ready to leave the hospital for the night and get some dinner. we should be back at the hotel in a little over an hour. [22:14] i hear you :( but glad all is going good.. [22:18] Here but late. Work ran later as I've had back to back client calls today. Let me know if there's something needed to be tested in vm or anything as I have access to my Linux laptop fully again [22:40] @wxl [ which is in 3.2.14], It is in ci/unstable? I can check that [22:48] it isn't yet @HMollerCl the new version from git has been failing to build. [22:57] one could always build master and confirm it [23:01] But if it fails to build in ci... It might fail in live too [23:02] more likely a packaging issue which is what @kc2bez alluded to above (see copyright mention) [23:39] you can see the build log here https://launchpadlibrarian.net/445130652/buildlog_ubuntu-eoan-amd64.calamares_3.2.12+git201910030114~eoan-0ubuntu1~ppa1_BUILDING.txt.gz [23:39] it fails on PythonQt^ [23:39] Missing depends [23:39] apt-cache find PythonQt.h [23:39] Or packages.ubuntu.com [23:40] Add that as a build dep [23:40] Voila [23:54] well the issue with that is that we should already have the build depend [23:58] Debian stopped building against PythonQt in February https://salsa.debian.org/qt-kde-team/extras/calamares/commit/b125acf24260f3fbf50ea2b547996871a517ab13