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| gry | is it freaking serious? ubuntu hibernation option is off by default? | 05:00 |
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| lotuspsychje | gry: hibernation is the users choice | 05:01 |
| lotuspsychje | its not because you like it, everyone needs to sue it? | 05:01 |
| lotuspsychje | *use | 05:01 |
| lotuspsychje | gry: also alot of brands suffer hibernation acpi bugs on linux, that needs to be solved first before working properly | 05:05 |
| akemhp | Yeah, but still it would be better if there was an easy way to automaticly set the needed swap space, boot parameters disk ID/offset, and grub update, because you have to deal with command line and text editors. It can be annoying for lots of users i guess. | 05:55 |
| lordievader | Good morning | 06:22 |
| ducasse | good morning | 06:46 |
| akemhp_ | Good morning ;) | 06:46 |
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| ducasse | \o akemhp | 06:48 |
| marcoagpinto | Hello! | 09:46 |
| gry | hi | 10:06 |
| gry | lotuspsychje: is it planned to fix these bugs with hibernation in next release? a user was asking about why hibernate is missing in the channel yesterday? | 10:58 |
| lotuspsychje | gry: im affraid we cant generalize hibernate bugs, as they are brand specific | 10:59 |
| gry | ok ok | 11:00 |
| lotuspsychje | some brands will always get buggy on several ubuntu versions | 11:00 |
| lotuspsychje | we often reccomend updating bios to latest and workarounds with acpi boot lines | 11:00 |
| lotuspsychje | !acpi | 11:00 |
| ubot5 | to debug ACPI issues on ubuntu make sure your bios is up to date and follow the procedure here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI | 11:00 |
| gry | yes | 11:01 |
| BluesKaj | Hey folks | 11:20 |
| marcoagpinto | BluesKaj!!!! Hello!!!! | 11:25 |
| marcoagpinto | >:) | 11:25 |
| BluesKaj | hey marcoagpinto | 11:26 |
| EoflaOE | marcoagpinto!!!!! | 15:07 |
| marcoagpinto | EoflaOE!!!! | 15:16 |
| marcoagpinto | >:) | 15:16 |
| EoflaOE | How are you marcoagpinto? | 15:16 |
| marcoagpinto | I know i shouldn't be doing it, but I am drinking more cola :((((((((((((( | 15:16 |
| marcoagpinto | what's up? | 15:16 |
| EoflaOE | I am doing fine. | 15:18 |
| marcoagpinto | cool | 15:19 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:19 |
| marcoagpinto | does Ubuntu allow to save directly in a disc? | 15:20 |
| marcoagpinto | the other day I went to help a person with his computer and Windows 10 records directly to CD with drag'n'dop | 15:20 |
| marcoagpinto | drop* | 15:20 |
| lordcirth | marcoagpinto, save how? what do you want to do? | 15:20 |
| marcoagpinto | well, normal files | 15:21 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:21 |
| marcoagpinto | I have Nero, so I don't need it, but most people don't have commercial software | 15:21 |
| lordcirth | marcoagpinto, so, just writing files onto a CD? | 15:22 |
| marcoagpinto | yes, with drag'n'drop | 15:22 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:22 |
| lordcirth | Probably. I don't think I've put files on a CD in at least 5 years. | 15:22 |
| marcoagpinto | me neither :) | 15:23 |
| marcoagpinto | I just create .iso's now-a-days | 15:23 |
| mgedmin | so either that's a CD-R and windows lets you drag'n'drop a bunch of files then hit a burn button somewhere to write them out | 15:23 |
| marcoagpinto | no button | 15:23 |
| mgedmin | or that CD-R (CD-RW?) is using the UDF filesystem, and I'm not sure Linux supports that | 15:23 |
| marcoagpinto | it copies to CD just as if it was a normal folder | 15:23 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:23 |
| marcoagpinto | and after we select eject it says "closing session to make it work in other PCs blah blah" | 15:24 |
| mgedmin | wikipedia says Linux supports UDF in read-only mode only | 15:24 |
| marcoagpinto | ohhhhhhhh | 15:24 |
| mgedmin | wait, for UDF revision 2.50/2.60 | 15:25 |
| mgedmin | it's read+write for UDF revision 1.02 throug 2.0x | 15:25 |
| mgedmin | I find this table hard to read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_Disk_Format#Compatibility | 15:25 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhh | 15:25 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:25 |
| mgedmin | I don't know if the desktop & nautilus are smart enough to recognize a writeable UDF-formatted disk and allow you to copy files to it, though | 15:26 |
| mgedmin | or how you'd go about formatting a blank CD-RW/CD-R disk as UDF | 15:26 |
| mgedmin | but now you know what technical terms to google! | 15:26 |
| lordcirth | apt-file search mkfs.udf: udftools | 15:27 |
| mgedmin | https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gparted/commit/5f327feb25bcb8b55ffa2eab1bb86d5f75d75fba was 2 years ago | 15:27 |
| marcoagpinto | ohhhhhhhhh | 15:27 |
| marcoagpinto | NetBSD 5.0 has "yes" in all columns | 15:27 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:27 |
| marcoagpinto | what is a NetBSD? | 15:28 |
| mgedmin | but "formatting optical disks is not supported yet" | 15:28 |
| mgedmin | NetBSD is an OS, very much like Linux, except less popular | 15:28 |
| mgedmin | more oriented to servers than desktops | 15:28 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhhhhhh | 15:28 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:28 |
| marcoagpinto | when I bought my SSD drive for the 14'' laptop two years ago or so I thought it would become very fast for Windows and Ubuntu... but the computer manufacturers are still shipping SATA2 :(((((( | 15:32 |
| marcoagpinto | so, it can only read up to 300 MB/sec and not 600 | 15:33 |
| mgedmin | I thought the primary advantage of SSDs was low seek latency (0 vs 10ms), not throughput? my first SSD only did 100 MB/s (compared to the 40 MB/s HDD I had before), but it made my old laptop feel brand new at the time | 15:34 |
| marcoagpinto | mgedmin: I know SSD is a lot faster than conventional HDD :) but I thought I had a SATA3 interface in the laptop | 15:35 |
| marcoagpinto | I was shocked when it said "sata2" | 15:35 |
| mgedmin | my current SSD does 1138.67 MB/sec according to hdparm -t -T /dev/nvme0n1, and I'm not sure if I believe it, or if hardware really has progressed that far | 15:37 |
| mgedmin | there's a "HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(identify) failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device" just before the result which doesn't make me trust hdparm | 15:37 |
| marcoagpinto | mgedmin: NVMe does 2,5 GB/sec I believe | 15:37 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:37 |
| marcoagpinto | at least the SAMSUNG ones I read about | 15:38 |
| marcoagpinto | https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/ssd-970-pro-nvme-m2-512gb-mz-v7p512bw/ | 15:41 |
| marcoagpinto | "3,500MB/s Seq. Read" | 15:41 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 15:41 |
| marcoagpinto | it would boot my OS in one second! | 15:43 |
| lordcirth | Optane is the fastest of all, though the price matches. | 15:43 |
| lordcirth | We have some 1.5TB Optane NVMe for Ceph metadata & journals. It's good stuff. | 15:44 |
| mgedmin | modern software is amazing at taking all the speed advances hardware has made over the years and making it slow again | 15:45 |
| lordcirth | "software gets slower faster than hardware gets faster" :P | 15:45 |
| marcoagpinto | lordcirth: What a good sentence to say in my exam :) | 15:46 |
| marcoagpinto | ohhhhhhhhh... the prices dropped a lot | 15:51 |
| marcoagpinto | $150 for that SAMSUNG drive (512 GB) | 15:51 |
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| EoflaOE | marcoagpinto I will get a SanDisk USB 3.0 drive. | 17:14 |
| marcoagpinto | EoflaOE: Why not a T5 SAMSUNG one? | 17:15 |
| EoflaOE | marcoagpinto: Well, my local store doesn't have the T5 Samsung flash drive. | 17:16 |
| marcoagpinto | ohhhhhh | 17:16 |
| marcoagpinto | order from Amazon | 17:16 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 17:16 |
| EoflaOE | marcoagpinto: I would, but because I live in Syria (which still has a sanction to now), and don't have a credit card, I have no option. | 17:18 |
| marcoagpinto | ohhhhhhh | 17:18 |
| marcoagpinto | I thought you lived in Europe | 17:18 |
| EoflaOE | OK marcoagpinto. I will look at its picture. | 17:19 |
| EoflaOE | Well, it's an SSD, but nice look. | 17:20 |
| marcoagpinto | yes, it is an SSD | 17:20 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 17:20 |
| marcoagpinto | I will probably buy it next year | 17:20 |
| marcoagpinto | On Christmas I no longer need to buy a new mobile phone since a software update gave ~4 GB more free storage in it | 17:21 |
| marcoagpinto | I had less than 1 GB of storage free | 17:21 |
| marcoagpinto | my guess is that the Android update created temporary files and only now they were deleted | 17:22 |
| EoflaOE | Nice. To Android 10.0? | 17:22 |
| marcoagpinto | no | 17:22 |
| marcoagpinto | years ago, from 6 to 7 | 17:23 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 17:23 |
| EoflaOE | So good. I am planning to buy the next Android tablet, this time, from Samsung. | 17:24 |
| marcoagpinto | my parents have Samsung, I only use Sony | 17:25 |
| EoflaOE | OK. | 17:27 |
| EoflaOE | When I was Grade 4 in 2014, the school gave ever student a cheap Chinese tablet, XTouch F81: https://whatismyphone.com/vendors/xtouch/f81 Their website seems to be down. | 17:29 |
| EoflaOE | every* | 17:29 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 17:30 |
| marcoagpinto | I am not good at Android :) | 17:30 |
| marcoagpinto | I can't make many basic things in it | 17:30 |
| EoflaOE | OK. Guess what I changed in my blog. | 17:32 |
| tomreyn | !-sysrq | 18:02 |
| ubot5 | sysrq aliases: reisub - added by ompaul on 2008-09-12 20:29:51 - last edited by rww on 2016-02-16 19:59:18 | 18:02 |
| tomreyn | !sysrq is <reply> In an emergency, you may be able to shutdown cleanly and reboot by holding down Alt+PrintScreen and typing slowly, in succession, S, U and B. For an explanation, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key | 18:07 |
| tomreyn | !printk | 18:08 |
| ubot5 | If your !tty is full of error messages, you can raise the kernel logging daemons' log level above the default of 4 (KERN_WARNING), e.g. by running "echo 7 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/kernel/printk". More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks#printk_is_your_friend | 18:08 |
| tomreyn | !-printk | 18:08 |
| ubot5 | printk has no aliases - added by Unit193 on 2019-09-23 00:41:31 | 18:08 |
| tomreyn | !printk is <reply> If your !tty is flooded with error messages, you can limit the kernel logging daemons' log level below the default of 4 (KERN_WARNING), e.g. by running "echo 3 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/kernel/printk". More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks#printk_is_your_friend and syslog(2) | 18:15 |
| tomreyn | the diffs there are mostly this: sysrq: suggested pressing all of REISUB when only SUB works (due to the limiter that was introduced years ago to prevent physical attacks). printk: was previously wrong (my mistake), suggested raising the printk when it should be lowered. | 18:20 |
| tomreyn | https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/admin-guide/sysrq.rst would be the 'official' (but not necessarily newbie friendly) sysrq manual and /etc/sysctl.d/10-magic-sysrq.conf defines the restrictions of which keys are supported on ubuntu systems. | 18:35 |
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