| rbalint | o/ | 15:01 |
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| sil2100 | o/ | 15:01 |
| bdmurray | xnox: Were you going to run the meeting as doko is out? | 15:01 |
| xnox | i nominate bdmurray | 15:04 |
| bdmurray | okay here we go | 15:05 |
| bdmurray | #startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team | 15:05 |
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| bdmurray | #topic Lightning rounds | 15:05 |
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| bdmurray | xnox doko mwhudson cyphermox bdmurray tdaitx waveform vorlon juliank infinity rbalint sil2100 | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | xnox: your turn | 15:06 |
| xnox | skip | 15:06 |
| bdmurray | doko is out for a national holiday | 15:07 |
| bdmurray | cyphermox: | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | - off tomorrow, Mon, Tue, Wed next week | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | - netplan read-write plugin for NetworkManager | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | - verified netplan.io, nplan SRUs | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | - debugging DNS resolution issue (search domains not showing from DHCP) (LP: #1846509) | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | - continued work on shim snapshot: one more patch from Chris, now ready to submit to the review board | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | - did one last round of fixing grub2 to install UEFI boot artefacts correctly to the ESP | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | - ubiquity translation update, will do ubiquity slideshow translation update today | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | (done) | 15:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1846509 in systemd (Ubuntu) "networkd doesn't take into account search domain received by DHCP" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1846509 | 15:07 |
| cyphermox | rbalint: this one is for you I think ^ | 15:07 |
| bdmurray | I did managerial things | 15:08 |
| cyphermox | it's easily reproducible | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | Also the testing of the daisy code w/o python-pycassa went well | 15:08 |
| * xnox is ready | 15:08 | |
| bdmurray | So I submitted an RT about update the daisy servers in production | 15:08 |
| bdmurray | xnox: | 15:08 |
| xnox | IBM s390x escalations: | 15:08 |
| xnox | * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1846219 | 15:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1846219 in linux (Ubuntu) "Revert ESE DASD discard support" [Critical,Incomplete] | 15:08 |
| xnox | * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1845323 | 15:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1845323 in Ubuntu on IBM z Systems "Trying to online dasd drive results in invalid input/output from the kernel on z/VM" [Critical,In progress] | 15:08 |
| xnox | - prepared & submitted patch+sru-bug to kernel team | 15:08 |
| xnox | Casper: | 15:08 |
| xnox | * url=proto://*/path/to.iso ip=dhcp is now supported netboot option | 15:08 |
| xnox | works with http & ftp across many architectus (amd64, ppc64le, s390x) | 15:08 |
| rbalint | cyphermox, will follow up | 15:08 |
| xnox | * https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/casper/+bug/1840122 | 15:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1840122 in linux (Ubuntu Eoan) "System fails to reboot from live session or ubiquity-dm - squashfs_read_data failed to read block" [High,Confirmed] | 15:08 |
| xnox | Subiquity: | 15:08 |
| xnox | * code-reviews & merges | 15:08 |
| xnox | * bootstrapped mwhudson to HMC to look at colors & lines | 15:09 |
| xnox | done | 15:09 |
| xnox | above two linux bugs, caused us to not have s390x beta | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | * working on apport lock file fix | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | * openjdk-8 autopkgtest mostly done | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | - s390x zero fix still missing | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | * moving and testing autopkgtest fixes to openjdk-11 | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | * getting jck installed on jenkins | 15:09 |
| tdaitx | (done) | 15:09 |
| xnox | rbalint: also we should have had uploaded DVE fix..... which i thought we are not uploading, but looks like we are. | 15:09 |
| bdmurray | waveform: | 15:09 |
| waveform | * Discussed potential Core20 snapd changes (to support u-boot scripts, and potentially Pi4) with Zygmunt on the snapd team | 15:10 |
| waveform | * Reviewed nitrogen 6 gadget (MP: https://code.launchpad.net/~fisterra-team/fisterra/+git/nitrogen6x-gadget/+merge/371450) | 15:10 |
| waveform | * Filed FFe for u-boot 2019.07 for Pi4 support (LP: #1846329) | 15:10 |
| waveform | * Prepped updated firmware package for Pi4 support | 15:10 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1846329 in u-boot (Ubuntu) "[FFe] 2019.07 to support Pi4 boot" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1846329 | 15:10 |
| waveform | * Cert team discovered new u-boot breaks on CM3/3+ - currently investigating (may be dt-related) | 15:10 |
| waveform | (done) | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | vorlon: | 15:10 |
| bdmurray | waveform: has that FFe been reviewed / approved? | 15:11 |
| vorlon | * discussions around ZFS in ubiquity | 15:11 |
| vorlon | * proposed-migration | 15:11 |
| vorlon | * NBS for the badly-managed texlive transitions | 15:11 |
| vorlon | * unapproved queue reviews for eoan | 15:11 |
| vorlon | * livecd-rootfs tweaks for i386 to accomodate removal of linux kernel packages | 15:11 |
| vorlon | (done) | 15:11 |
| waveform | bdmurray, not yet | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | juliank should be out for the holiday | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | infinity isn't here | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | rbalint: | 15:11 |
| bdmurray | is there somebody who can review that FFe? | 15:12 |
| rbalint | (very short week) | 15:12 |
| rbalint | * systemd SRU with reintroducing several lost fixes | 15:12 |
| rbalint | * updated systemd to 242 in eoan and pushing in one last round of fixes now | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | I could, in theory | 15:12 |
| rbalint | * wrote SRU exception proposal https://wiki.ubuntu.com/wslu-Updates | 15:12 |
| rbalint | * some bug gardening | 15:12 |
| rbalint | (done) | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | - Back from being sick, feeling a bit better now | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | - Eoan queue reviews | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | - SRU reviews and releases | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | - Kernel reviews | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | - Code reviews of ubuntu-image PRs for little-kernel support | 15:12 |
| bdmurray | sil2100: "in theory"? | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | - Reviewing Dave's classic pi-gadget improvements, investigating flash-kernel | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | - Reviewing Dimitri's core20 tweaks to ld symlinking | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | - Finalize the UC20 ubuntu-image changes spec | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | - Implement ubuntu-image UC20 changes | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | * Base pieces done but still working on tests. Also, this might need a few iterations. | 15:12 |
| sil2100 | - Meetings regarding device enablement and image building | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | - Looking at the license of the IMX6-required GPU binary firmware blobs | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | - Kicking around Bileto to fix expired tokens | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | - Refactoring and fixing tests for latest ubuntu-release-upgrader changes, uploading to eoan | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | - Touching base with Gunnar regarding state of translations for the upcoming release | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | - Starting the review of the IMX6 gadget | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | - Phasing out new core18 to stable | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | (done) | 15:13 |
| * xnox has AOB item | 15:13 | |
| bdmurray | Are there any questions on status other than mine re: the FFe | 15:13 |
| bdmurray | xnox: we aren't there yet! | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | bdmurray: ok, in practice as well! I said 'in theory', since we're from the same team and not sure if anyone wouldn't object for me to review the FFe | 15:13 |
| sil2100 | Since it's quite obvious I'd be +1 on it ;p | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | sil2100: I expect your review to be harder(?) since you *are* from the same team | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | #topic Release incoming bugs | 15:14 |
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| sil2100 | bdmurray: yessir! | 15:14 |
| bdmurray | #link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ee-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | sil2100: but maybe we should give it until Friday | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | bug 1838525 is being worked by the server team | 15:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1838525 in lvm2 (Ubuntu) "LVM setup fails to install grub on virtio storage" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1838525 | 15:15 |
| bdmurray | bug 1779767 I'm not convinced is really fixed in Eoan - xnox | 15:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1779767 in cron (Ubuntu) "Default cron PATH does not include /snap/bin" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1779767 | 15:15 |
| xnox | i see comments from him | 15:16 |
| xnox | juliank: something about udev rules we started shipping =) | 15:16 |
| bdmurray | bug 1834501 is about "air gapped" release upgrades so I think we can punt that to Funky. agreed? | 15:18 |
| ubottu | bug 1834501 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "do-release-upgrade from bionic->any disables lxd without snapstore access" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1834501 | 15:18 |
| bdmurray | vorlon: ^ | 15:19 |
| vorlon | bdmurray: agreed | 15:19 |
| bdmurray | bug 1845571 is new | 15:19 |
| ubottu | bug 1845571 in partman-auto (Ubuntu) "ubiquity offers installation media as an install target" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845571 | 15:19 |
| sil2100 | Feels like it at least | 15:19 |
| bdmurray | the reporter of bug 1845571 seems trust worthy | 15:20 |
| vorlon | pulling this into the prioritized queue | 15:23 |
| bdmurray | thanks | 15:23 |
| bdmurray | I also wanted to talk about a bug targetted to Eoan | 15:24 |
| bdmurray | a bug or two ;-) | 15:24 |
| bdmurray | bug 1844651 | 15:24 |
| ubottu | bug 1844651 in command-not-found (Ubuntu Eoan) "command-not-found-data package is unnecessary" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1844651 | 15:24 |
| bdmurray | This was discovered when looking at the mlocate changes | 15:25 |
| bdmurray | the c-n-f-data package is out of date so will still tell you about locate from two different packages | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | even though I blacklisted it from one of them | 15:26 |
| juliank | With my Debian c-n-f maintainer hat on I can say that there are a few bugs if the database does not exist yes, but they'll need fixing anyway. | 15:26 |
| bdmurray | Does dropping c-n-f-data before the release of 19.10 seem possible? | 15:27 |
| vorlon | I think so | 15:27 |
| xnox | Yeah +1 | 15:27 |
| bdmurray | juliank: Like producing an error re "commands.db does not exist"? | 15:28 |
| juliank | bdmurray: Yeah. like "run apt update to ... the database" | 15:28 |
| juliank | ... because I'm missing a word | 15:29 |
| juliank | At leasttthe bionic version just crashes with cnf unbound: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=927338 | 15:30 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 927338 in command-not-found "command-not-found: local variable 'cnf' referenced before assignment" [Important,Open] | 15:30 |
| bdmurray | So we've decided this is worth fixing is there somebody who can take the card associated with this? | 15:31 |
| bdmurray | Maybe somebody familiar with c-n-f? | 15:31 |
| * bdmurray eyes the team | 15:31 | |
| juliank | if it's just the error message, I'll take it as I have to fix Debian anyway | 15:32 |
| juliank | if we want to build a db in live images, it's probably more work | 15:32 |
| bdmurray | juliank: the error message and dropping the c-n-f-data package | 15:32 |
| bdmurray | juliank: we suspect the live db is already built and I'll test that | 15:32 |
| juliank | Sounds good | 15:33 |
| bdmurray | I just want to clarify my understanding of bug 1841675 | 15:33 |
| ubottu | bug 1841675 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu Eoan) "do-release-upgrade crashed with AttributeError in tryMarkObsoleteForRemoval(): 'Package' object has no attribute 'section'" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1841675 | 15:33 |
| juliank | Package.section is gone, because section is version specific | 15:34 |
| juliank | So likely you need .candidate.version, with the caveat that .candidate might not exist if all versions are pinned negatively | 15:35 |
| bdmurray | From what I've seen this only affects do-partial-upgrade | 15:35 |
| juliank | pkg.marked_delete and pkg.section == section | 15:35 |
| juliank | hmm might e useful to pkg.marked_delete and pkg.installed.section == section | 15:36 |
| juliank | but not 100% sure which section it's supposed to look at | 15:36 |
| bdmurray | So if it only affects do-partial-upgrade I think we can fix it as a zero day SRU | 15:36 |
| bdmurray | But it'd be good to have someone check and see if it will affect release upgrades to eoan | 15:36 |
| bdmurray | Actually it can't b/c we'll be using the previous release's apt right? | 15:37 |
| juliank | just add .candidate after the pkg and it'll be fine | 15:37 |
| bdmurray | there are two sections where it Tracebacks | 15:38 |
| juliank | yes, i see two pkg.section which both can be pkg.candidate.section | 15:39 |
| bdmurray | juliank: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/443001015/Traceback.txt | 15:39 |
| juliank | maybe instead of self[pkgname].section == section | 15:39 |
| juliank | do any(v.section == section for v in self[pkgname].version_list) | 15:40 |
| bdmurray | My real question here is do we need to fix it before 10/17 | 15:40 |
| bdmurray | juliank: Do you have an opinion on that? | 15:40 |
| juliank | it seems to affect everything that has removals marked for packages that still exist in the archive | 15:40 |
| bdmurray | Well it seems rather easy to fix so maybe we should just JFDI | 15:41 |
| bdmurray | better safe than sorry | 15:41 |
| juliank | Well, you want to fix it before enabling upgrade prompts in any case | 15:41 |
| sil2100 | +1 | 15:41 |
| sil2100 | I could take it | 15:42 |
| bdmurray | #topic Team proposed-migration report | 15:42 |
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| bdmurray | #link http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs | 15:42 |
| bdmurray | Does somebody want to drive this part of the discussion? | 15:43 |
| sil2100 | I could, but it's a quick thing | 15:44 |
| bdmurray | good because we still have xnox's AOB | 15:44 |
| rbalint | as i recall libapp-stacktrace-perl is waveform's | 15:44 |
| sil2100 | So for gdb - I think this is something that waveform tries to reproduce on a raspi? | 15:44 |
| sil2100 | waveform: ^ any luck? | 15:45 |
| sil2100 | libapp-stacktrace-perl/0.09-3build1: armhf | 15:45 |
| waveform | correct - so far unsuccessfully | 15:45 |
| waveform | was going to retry with another image last night but got side-tracked by the CM3 failure | 15:45 |
| sil2100 | waveform: would you want someone to help you out with this one? | 15:45 |
| sil2100 | Ok | 15:45 |
| sil2100 | Just advertise if you want more eyeballs looking at it | 15:45 |
| waveform | will do - especially if it builds entirely successfully again! | 15:46 |
| sil2100 | libglib-perl - this is related to the MIRs we discussed on our standup yesterday | 15:46 |
| bdmurray | that's true | 15:46 |
| sil2100 | bdmurray: do we know who's responsible for driving those? | 15:46 |
| sil2100 | (I mean, did a discussion happen re: that with the desktop team?) | 15:46 |
| bdmurray | sil2100: I need to contact our colleagues | 15:46 |
| bdmurray | sil2100: We didn't sync up yesterday | 15:47 |
| sil2100 | bdmurray: ok, moving on then o/ Just give us a poke if you know more | 15:47 |
| rbalint | libglib-perl and imagemagick are blocked on MIRs | 15:47 |
| rbalint | that's all | 15:47 |
| sil2100 | imagemagick libheif1 also is an MIR, security review I guess? | 15:47 |
| rbalint | sil2100, yes | 15:47 |
| bdmurray | I'm under the impression the security review may not get done | 15:48 |
| rbalint | bdmurray, it is not expected to finish soon | 15:48 |
| sil2100 | Should we drop the dependency then? Is that possible? | 15:48 |
| vorlon | why not just leave it as-is in -proposed? | 15:48 |
| vorlon | is it blocking a different update? | 15:48 |
| sil2100 | Nothing that I know off at least | 15:49 |
| sil2100 | *of | 15:49 |
| sil2100 | Ok, let's leave it there for now then | 15:49 |
| sil2100 | Guess that's it | 15:49 |
| sil2100 | bdmurray: o/ | 15:49 |
| bdmurray | #topic AOB | 15:50 |
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| bdmurray | xnox: ? | 15:50 |
| xnox | so | 15:50 |
| xnox | techboard has not been replying to me about https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/technical-board/2019-August/002456.html | 15:50 |
| xnox | what can i do? | 15:50 |
| xnox | cyphermox: vorlon? | 15:50 |
| bdmurray | do we know anybody on the tech board? | 15:50 |
| vorlon | xnox: cyphermox is not on the techboard; send a follow-up email? | 15:51 |
| sil2100 | Did you try to bring that up on the techboard meeting? | 15:51 |
| vorlon | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TechnicalBoardAgenda | 15:52 |
| bdmurray | Any other AOB? | 15:53 |
| sil2100 | None from me | 15:54 |
| bdmurray | Rather than handing off the chair, I think I will just continue chairing the meeting for a while. | 15:55 |
| bdmurray | So I think that's it. | 15:55 |
| bdmurray | Thanks everyone! | 15:55 |
| sil2100 | Thanks bdmurray o/ | 15:55 |
| rbalint | o/ | 15:55 |
| bdmurray | #endmeeting | 15:56 |
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| meetingology | Meeting ended Thu Oct 3 15:56:00 2019 UTC. | 15:56 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2019/ubuntu-meeting.2019-10-03-15.05.moin.txt | 15:56 |
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