=== BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK === zbenjamin is now known as Guest3673 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [01:15] does anyone have/use vmware intelligent hub/airwatch? [01:18] nope, why would we? [01:19] eh you never know, sometimes folks have excess money on their hands.. [01:19] Lol [01:20] Anybody familiar with Ghost Phisher? [01:27] hackatheos_, it might help to post a link to the project site. some people might recognize it when they see it. also you might need to pose a more interesting question to motivate more people to take the effort and type a reply. [01:33] oh I see it's about the wifi AP faker from Kali Linux. for a walkthrough, you'd probably better ask YouTube than #ubuntu. [01:34] (website: https://tools.kali.org/information-gathering/ghost-phisher ) [01:35] (probably upstream website: https://n0where.net/ghost-phisher ) [01:41] i built a new pc, msi mpg x570 gaming edge wifi mobo, amd rysen 5, and a 250gb ssd, i am trying to install ubuntu 18.04 via usb stick, and both the usb and the ubuntu i had already on the ssd get stuck in a loop, it is unable to load and im wondering if anyone can help me [01:41] keeps going back to grub menu after ubuntu loading screen (for both usb and ssd) [01:42] my only guess right now is that it is some kind of uefi settings i need to change [01:42] it is in ahci mode [01:42] naribia, step 1: check the mobo vendor for bios updates, step 2; i think you need the UEFI manual [01:42] !uefi [01:42] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [01:42] i just updated the mobo [01:42] oke [01:46] naribia: Ryzen had some issues that AMD putout patches that some manufactueres implimented - Kernel 5.3 (19.10) has improved the support a lot. [01:47] ubuntu 19.10? [01:48] yes, now in beta, release in a few weeks [01:49] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ 19.10 as updated today [01:49] it exceeds 2 gb usb sticks :-( [01:49] alright, I'll give that a try [01:50] * OerHeks is going to miss the red friend of 2 gb imagination, used since 2009 [01:55] guess I'll have to look for a more lightweight live CD soon then, so I can debootstrap Ubuntu from there. [01:59] actually, can I boot the ubuntu server install image 1) with casper persistence? 2) into a just shell? [02:00] *just a [02:00] dash is fine, too [02:05] is there a way to download just the initramfs + kernel of the current beta live CD? [02:05] Sven_vB, #ubuntu+1 [02:08] thanks! [02:09] hi [02:09] dak0, hi [02:09] in xenial and bionic, is casper persistence limited to the livecd kernel or can I boot the installed versions with casper-rw overlayed? [02:12] Anyone here has GNC 1 amd gpu? [02:14] Sven_vB, livecd has no persistence, this article tells you what to do, to get it https://askubuntu.com/questions/1051543/how-to-make-a-live-ubuntu-18-04-usb-with-a-persistent-storage-of-more-than-4gb [02:14] or something like this https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/03/create-persistent-storage-live-usb-with.html [02:15] OerHeks, right, sorry. I meant a live CD booted with "persistence" kernel param while there is a suitable casper-rw file on another ext3 partition that is available at boot time. [02:15] dak0, please ask your actual question [02:16] Sven_vB, interesting, never heard of such option exists [02:16] any url i can read? [02:17] actually now that I reread your reaction and my question, I makes me doubt whether I use the original live CD kernel. [02:18] early wubi installers asked for permission to write a /tmp file as swap, iirc [02:19] dak0, maybe; why do you ask? [02:20] ubuntu 19.10 gives me the same problem, stuck in a loop of ubuntu trying to load and the grub menu [02:22] naribia: What graphic's card do you have ? [02:22] Bashing-om: rx 580 [02:22] Good day people [02:27] naribia: No other thoughts as that AMD card's driver is in the kernel and should "just work" :( [02:28] since https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence only mentions "kernel" those few times, it seems indeed the live CD kernel does ship with persistence by default. [02:30] no, there is no persistence part on the iso. [02:30] for me it's a mystery why then it won't offer people a little GUI to create a casper-rw on theit existing FAT/NTFS/whatever supported partition, and next time they boot their live CD, offer to boot with persistence. GRUB is mighty enough to detect casper-rw files and adjust its menu. [02:30] that would be silly, on dvd [02:30] it is all manual, as your url says too [02:30] I'm talking about kernel support. not whether Ubuntu exposes it to users by default. [02:31] even that URL mentions you can store casper-rw on a harddisk [02:31] oh i see, the kernel-module itself [02:31] yeah. whether we expose it to end users is a matter of user-friendliness. that's not my current concern. :) [02:34] I mean SuperGrub can easily be modified to enhance Ubuntu with all of the above, so now that I verified my original question was valid, let's focus on whether the installed kernel can use casper. meanwhile I found a spare machine so I guess I'll just boot it and try. [02:36] I have this newish Dell Inspiron 14 5000 laptop. I installed Ubuntu 18.04 on it and the CPUs and the fan seem to be running at max speed even though the computer is mostly idling. [02:36] How do I fix that? [02:38] Do I use Ubuntu Studio Controls?? [02:38] fans running doesn't necessarily mean CPUs are runnig max. however, if they are, it might be a good reason to have the fans run as well. :) [02:40] !lmsensors [02:40] To access CPU temperature sensors and detect fan speeds, install the lm-sensors package. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto for installation and usage instructions. [02:41] on bionic, my "persistence" argument seems to have been ignored. now installing package "casper", my initrd is rebuilt, so I guess I didn't have persistence support until now. === sm0rux_ is now known as sm0rux [03:01] oh of course, it needs squashfs or similar to boot from. yeah. I forgot that detail. [03:01] so it seems it's not as easy as I had hoped, to add a casper-rw overlay to a regular, installed Ubuntu. [03:02] hi [03:03] anyone use flatpak to install discord? === akemhp_ is now known as akemhp [03:05] no, use snap. [03:17] what does "ahci controller unavailable" mean? [03:26] baraba: AHCI: Advanced Host Controller Interface - required for newer hardwares - ensure you have it enabled in bios. [03:27] naribia: ^^ sorry baraba - not paying attention againtomy tabbing. === JackK_ is now known as JackK [03:28] Bashing-om: it is enabled, i am unable to boot ubuntu, keeps saying ahci controller unavailable (among other things) [03:30] naribia: Sorry - I have no direct Ryzen experience :( [03:34] OerHeks, I did use lm-sensors to get the CPU temperatures and fan speed. [03:35] Actually, something doesn't feel right about all of this. [03:36] the CPU is an Intel i7-8565U (a mobile chip), lscpu says it's running at 700 MHz, but I have air conditioning around 26 degrees celcius and the CPU temperatures are still around 65 degrees celsius. [03:36] meanwhile, the fan is running at 5.7k RPM === openface_ is now known as openface [04:02] Gusj: your post at https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rTtFm6rs6v/ says you upgraded the BIOS from version 1.10 to 1.40. The latest version is 1.50 (select "Windows 10" OS, "Drivers & Updates" tab, "BIOS" filter at https://support.dynabook.com/support/modelHome?freeText=1200007943&osId=3333785 - a direct link is https://support.dynabook.com/support/viewContentDetail?contentId=4006302&pf=true ). i suggest you try this one instead, and retest without any [04:02] extra kernel parameters. if, after testing, it seems that the earlier bios version (1.10) worked better, consider downgrading to that. [04:04] Gusj: while on v1.50, try at least booting the ubuntu 18.04.*3* installer in both uefi and CSM modes. === james is now known as Guest78932 [04:07] tomreyn: Hi tom, When I tried updating to 1.50 I downloaded it and it gave me always an error, that the bios was wrong for the machine, even though I downloaded it several times from the toshiba and the dyna... website with the exact model of my laptop [04:07] other than that, also consider selling this laptop and replacing it by another pre-owned one which has better linux compatibility (lenovo T and P series can be a good choice). [04:07] Gusj: were you already running bios 1.40 then? [04:07] tomreyn: tried UEFI boot and CSM and the reuslt is the same [04:09] the upgrade from 1.40 to 1.50 may work while the upgrade from 1.10 to 1.50 did not. [04:09] tomreyn: no at first 1.10 and I installed 1.30, then 1,.40 with 1.50 I always got that error that it was the wrong bios for my machine somehting liek that and it excited the install [04:09] https://content.us.dynabook.com/content/support/downloads/scjev150.exe is the direct download. it contains an iso file you can write to a usb stick and boot from. [04:10] tomreyn: no I did not upgrade from 1.10 to 1.50, I went from .10 to .30, and then .40, the same order sas they appear on that toshiba page [04:10] ok, and you installed it using the iso, or using windows? [04:10] tomreyn: using windows [04:10] tomreyn: the 1.50 gave me that error [04:12] hmm, i don't know what else to try. you could file a bug against ubuntu, and then file another upstream (against linux). but really the main issue seems to be the buggy firmware. [04:12] it IS a regression though if it worked fine on earlier linux versions - did it? [04:14] tomreyn: I livedbooted Ubuntu 16.04 and it had the same problem... [04:15] Gusj: so linux never actually worked well on this system? [04:15] tomreyn: NO not that I have seen [04:16] Gusj: so then i'd say consider replacing the laptop, it's the most promising option for you. [04:16] tomreyn: Booted now without any kernel params, nd the keyboard is worse, no change of brigthness with FN key and wifi off/on and the numlock light stays ON which means it is frozen, when it has the kernel params that I wourked out at least I know it is not frozen [04:18] tomreyn: Tenagra says that this has nothing to do with the ACPI errors I se while it is booting.. do you agree that this does not have to do with ACPI, he says that because I have the correct functionality with USB mouse and trackpad [04:19] tomreyn: Those lines with ACPI bios error (bug) and the other ACPI error lines keep outputting themnselves on each TTY [04:19] well [04:20] windows was able to install on the hardware [04:20] didn't complain about anything [04:20] I'm not sure what is needed for ubuntu to work [04:21] tried both 18.04 and 19.10 [04:26] here's some more info from a picture if it helps anyone: https://imgur.com/a/IzyICoW [04:27] Gusj: you have ACPI errors about LPCB ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_Pin_Count ), which can translate periphals such as keyboard and touchpad conected via lagecy bus. === gry_ is now known as gry [04:30] Gusj: so your internal keyboard and trackpad seem to be connected via this legacy bus whereas usb devices connect very differently, which is why they still work. [04:30] Gusj: you could modify kernel printk to not have those errors written to the terminal, but this is just a way of hiding them. [04:30] !printk [04:30] If your !tty is full of error messages, you can raise the kernel logging daemons' log level above the default of 4 (KERN_WARNING), e.g. by running "echo 7 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/kernel/printk". More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks#printk_is_your_friend [04:33] is there a way to close my laptop without having the battery completely drain out? [04:33] yes, hibernate it [04:33] i have ubuntu and i know on windows if u close the lid on the laptop it doesnt drain as much as it does on linux by default [04:33] not 'u'; 'you' [04:34] after you hibernate, your laptop uses zero energy [04:34] gry: but does it save everything in the state it was last in? [04:34] like all of my applications that are opened and stuff [04:35] yes, it does [04:35] gry: where could i set it so when i close the lid it hibernates by default? [04:35] it saves this information on your hard drive, and reads it from there the next time you start [04:35] somewhere in settings im assuming [04:35] correct [04:36] look for power management settings [04:36] gry: im there but i actually dont see anything for hibernation [04:38] please upload a screenshot to www.imgur.com (keep the delete link, since you'll need to remove it after we finish talking) [04:38] gnome-tweak-tool gives suspend option when laptop lid is closed [04:38] ^ that's what im prob missing [04:38] one sec ill get it real quick [04:39] thank you, OerHeks [04:39] !info gnome-tweak-tool [04:39] gnome-tweak-tool (source: gnome-tweaks): adjust advanced settings for GNOME - transitional package. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.28.1-1 (bionic), package size 1 kB, installed size 12 kB [04:39] ty [04:39] tomreyn: Thank you Tom trying to understand, this is so strange because the keyboard works partially, I do not understand how the kernel can see kybd and trackpad, assign Irq and then have it work partially or almost none at all [04:43] Gusj: i don't claim to understand the details either. you could try debugging those failing acpi calls https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Reference/ACPITricksAndTips and maybe that'd get you somewhere, but i've never done it myself. TJ- may have another suggestion when you meet him aroun dhere (he's not around now). [04:43] OerHeks: i still dont see where the power management stuff would be [04:43] desktop sharing ubuntu server 19.04, when I try turn on it just turn off and not show network, remote login is on and work with ssh [04:45] tomreyn: Thank you, yes he was helping me but had to go and have not seen him since, but will explain a bit when I see him of what we have done today... [04:45] does anyone know where i can go in ubuntu in order to turn on hibernation when i close my laptop lid? [04:45] tomreyn: this is not for now as I want to wait for TJ, but if nothing else works, your solution of !printk to stops those errors from printing to the TTY, when I do '!printk' it tells me 'event not foun' [04:46] porygon-z, did you find it in gnome-tweak-tool ? [04:46] gry: yes but i do not see the option anywhere [04:47] porygon-z, https://i.stack.imgur.com/xRBQd.jpg [04:48] gry: okay so the issue was i needed GNOME tweaks instead of Unity Tweak Tool [04:48] but in power settings it only gives me the option to suspend [04:49] Gusj: when i typed "!printk" here is was just to point out that you can type this word here all by itself and get more help on it from ubottu, the channel's IRC bot. [04:49] porygon-z: suspend is very similar, but the laptop drains battery a little. to keep power in the RAM [04:49] :( [04:49] need all the battery i can get [04:49] porygon-z: what was the previous setting there? [04:50] gry: wdym [04:50] tomreyn: ok ok sorry, I opened the link from the bot, don't really understand how I could do that, I put one of those commands in the grub? [04:51] dude there's literally no option for hibernation on ubuntu 18.04 XD [04:51] Hello. I just installed Ubuntu on a USB and for some reason it is extremely slow, likely because when I test the i/o to that USB drive, it comes out at 2 MB per 3.46 seconds. Any idea how to troubleshoot this? [04:51] porygon-z: what was the value of this setting when you opened the gnome-tweaks-tool window? [04:51] it's like hidden somewhere in the realm of hardness [04:51] !printk | Gusj this [04:51] Gusj this: If your !tty is full of error messages, you can raise the kernel logging daemons' log level above the default of 4 (KERN_WARNING), e.g. by running "echo 7 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/kernel/printk". More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelDebuggingTricks#printk_is_your_friend [04:52] gry: there was no menu that told me anything about power settings in unity tweak tool [04:52] i asked about gnome tweak, not unity tweak [04:52] gry: the only thing i saw was an option for suspending on close, but that was in GNOME tweaks. [04:52] was it selected? [04:52] yes [04:53] hmm. when you click at the right top and see the pop-up. click the power icon. does it have hibernate button there? [04:53] tomreyn: Thank you Tom, IF I do that command, I will still get the error msgs in the boot log, is this correct? [04:54] Gusj: yes, that's correct, it's just a way to no longer have your TTY full of error messgaes [04:54] porygon-z, i don't know why it is missing, i am new here; please wait for someone else to help you out [04:54] gry: https://imgur.com/a/VoZaZYw [04:54] :( [04:55] its all good lol [04:56] porygon-z, i guess you could follow http://tipsonubuntu.com/2018/04/28/change-lid-close-action-ubuntu-18-04-lts/ , but this is not official [04:57] gry: ive tried that in the past i feel like [04:57] im almost too lazy to try it again lol [04:57] the fact that you have to modify that file just to turn on hibernation is stupid. it probably just isnt supported idk [04:57] if it doesn't work today, someone here can help you debug it [04:58] lol they will literally fully convert me to ubuntu if they do [04:58] tomreyn: Thank you [04:58] the only reason i do not primarily use linux on my laptop is because of the hibernation shit not working [04:59] i use windows and then i have an external ssd that has my ubuntu on it XD [05:00] porygon-z: new to the conversation here, what action do you want on lid close? You want it to hibernate or to do nothing? [05:00] hibernate [05:02] and I presume that this stuff is not working?: http://tipsonubuntu.com/2016/10/24/ubuntu-16-10-auto-shutdown-hibernate-lid-closed/ [05:02] tomreyn: Tom I did 'echo 7 | sudo tee -a /proc/sys/kernel/printk' and rebooted, and the kernel error ACPI erro msgs still print/output into the TTYs [05:03] gry: https://askubuntu.com/questions/66723/how-do-i-modify-the-options-for-the-power-button i think i found something useful [05:03] ill let you know if this works [05:03] tomreyn: The ACPI Error: AE_NOT_FOUND errors... [05:05] gry: doesnt seem to work. i feel like it might have to do with my version of ubuntu [05:05] i have 18.04 [05:06] Gusj: 7 would enable *all* debug messages to go to the console rather than less. [05:07] Gusj: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printk [05:07] tomreyn: I am confused, the bot msg says "If your !tty is full of error messages, you can raise the kernel logging daemons' log level above the default of 4" [05:07] see the "logging levels" section there [05:07] tomreyn: if it is 7 it is above 4, let me see [05:08] Gusj: you're right, this messga eis nonsense, sorry about it, my mistake, since i set it. [05:09] tomreyn: no prob.. [05:09] Gusj: set it to 3, then decrease until it's gone. [05:10] Gusj: once you came up with a good value, you can edit the printk option in /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf to make it permanent (applies after reboot) [05:10] "kernel.printk" [05:13] tomreyn: ok done, It said to uncomment the line, and the first value was 3, the lines is "kernel.printk = 3 4 1 3' I just reboot, I do not have to update somehting? [05:16] tomreyn: I rebotted and it is good Tom, thank you.. [05:17] tomreyn: I have saved all of your help in a note file to go back to it... and understand it better... [05:18] Gusj: you actually need to set those values to something which makes sense for your needs. which means you first of all need to understand what makes sense. you should only change the console_loglevel, that's the first value. [05:19] tomreyn: Yes and that value is 3, should I comment out all the other numbers or leave them as the default that were there? [05:20] tomreyn: Did not change anything, just uncommented the line, the first value was already 3, [05:21] Gusj: yes, but by setting all those four values you also explicitly set the other values. some more documentation is here (search for printk): https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/admin-guide/sysctl/kernel.html [05:23] Gusj: on my system, the default kernel.printk according to "cat /proc/sys/kernel/printk" is "4 4 1 7". if that's the same on your system and you only want to change the console_printk setting (first parameter) then you'd change the sysctl setting to "3 4 1 7" [05:24] tomreyn: ok thank you I got it Tom, will comment it out and boot to see what is my default.. [05:25] tomreyn: Tom do you recommend an educational source, spoecific youtube video, YT channel, to help me get acquainted with Ubuntu, linux etc.. ? [05:27] Gusj: if you reboot now, then the values you set in /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf will be what is returned by "cat /proc/sys/kernel/printk". however, if you run "cat /proc/sys/kernel/printk" now you'll get to see what is the current default on your system (and this current default should be the base of any modifications oyu make in /etc/sysctl.d/99-sysctl.conf) [05:28] tomreyn: Tom I typed the comm and got this===> cat: /proc/sys/kernel/printk: No such file or directory [05:30] Gusj: does findmnt /proc return anything? [05:32] tomreyn: I apologize Tom my mistake, yes the same values that came back were the defaults that were on the 99-sysctl.conf file [05:33] Gusj: okay, no problem. so you're set for now? [05:33] tomreyn: yes, will wait to see if I can speak with TJ- if you see him please say that I have not stopped working with you and tenagra, etc etc trying to find a solution.. with no luck he will remember me I think [05:34] does tzdata patch on Ubuntu 18 require reboot? [05:34] Gusj: just ping him again next time you're both online. [05:35] !YY.MM | Rembo [05:35] Rembo: Ubuntu version numbers are: YY.MM (YY=release year,MM=release month). Each year sees two releases, so just specifying YY is imprecise. See also https://www.ubuntu.com/about/release-cycle [05:35] Rembo: also clarify what you mean by "tzdata patch" [05:36] tomreyn: Yes I will, thank you very much for helping me Tom, I really appreciate it.. :) [05:36] Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS \n \l [05:36] Gusj: you're welcome, even though i could not really help you much. good luck. [05:37] tomreyn ? [05:37] Rembo ? [05:41] tomreyn, i want to know if tzdata patch require reboot after patching it on Ubuntu Server 18.04.3 LTS \n \l [05:42] Rembo: also clarify what you mean by "tzdata patch" [05:43] did you install an update for the tzdata database? did you patch the kernel to modify how it handle tzdata? did you modify tzdata user space utilities? [05:47] it is a normal patch nothing custom [05:51] Rembo: if you are referring to a software / package update which was installed on your computer while using apt / a graphical software updater then you do not need to reboot to apply the changes. === Etua_ is now known as Etua === akemhp_ is now known as akemhp [07:03] what the heck... Why does installing php7.2 install apache [07:03] I already have nginx :/ [07:04] its messed a whole bunch of stuff up trying to force apache on [07:04] that's super stupid [07:07] you can always put things back as they need to be [07:08] lol.. [07:08] if I wanted apache I would install apache tho [07:08] it's in no way a direct requirement of php, 7 or otherwise [07:10] from apt show php7.2: Depends: libapache2-mod-php7.2 | php7.2-fpm | php7.2-cgi, php7.2-common [07:11] so it depends on php7.2-common and one of libapache2-mod-php7.2, php7.2-fpm or php7.2-cgi [07:11] I guess if it finds none of the three it defaults to the apache one [07:12] so if you had done for example apt install php7.2 php7.2-fpm it shouldn't include apache2 [07:26] errr [07:26] not only should all of those be available [07:26] but its not just trying to do a lib [07:27] its trying to get apache actually running [07:27] like... no [07:27] just do literally nothing [07:34] is there any way I can sync Music from ubunt to Android SD card ? [07:36] just transfer your music files to the SDcard [07:37] I guess he wants to transfer new files only. [07:37] In both ways possibly. [07:39] tatertotz: that would be an option, but it means every time I change a playlist on my computer, I need to shutdown my phone. extract the sd card, put it in the card reader and back ... [07:40] renn0xtk9: why dont you network share whatever device it is? [07:40] ponyrider: yeah how to is basically my question ^^ [07:41] renn0xtk9: well what time of device is it? like a phone? [07:41] I have tried to install som SSH server like this http://www.galexander.org/software/simplesshd/ on the Andrdoi (it is a huawei phone) But google basically lock access to the SD-Card to anything that does not use Anrdroid API [07:42] Back In the days I had a Nokia N900 phone, it was such a dream ^^ even X forwarding used to work :p [07:42] just set up samba? [07:43] renn0xtk9, You can try "lan drive" smb server on your phone, then connect to it with Nautilus or Nemo file manager with smb://phoneip:1445 IIRC. But it's a bit slow here. [07:43] why no usb? [07:43] Yeah USB too :) [07:44] you could root your phone and use adb over wifi [07:44] You need to set file permission in phone settings applications. [07:44] by USB it seems to use libmtp [07:44] and that is totally unstable [07:45] ugh i thought mtp had gone away [07:45] humpled: what can I use else? [07:46] you could email each song to yourself ;p [07:46] put it on your google drive [07:46] as akemhp points out, there are several servers available on the play store, don't know why google should have a problem with ssh in particular [07:47] humpled they lock access to SD-card it is a well known issue [07:48] renn0xtk9: so why does it have an sdcard? [07:48] renn0xtk9: at this point it seems like your phone is the real problem here lol [07:48] export: since KitKat they have put restricition on sd card usage [07:49] only apps using android api can access sd card [07:49] my theory is they do it on purpose, at the tedmeand of phone maker [07:49] renn0xtk9: so a filemanager can access the sdcard? [07:49] why would you buy a phone with 128 GB internal if you can habe 128 GB sd card [07:49] or an ssh server with sftp support? [07:49] !ot [07:49] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [07:50] plz keep ontopic and ubuntu related issues only [07:50] export: ssh server would create files on the sdcard via POSIX call , which are locked [07:50] the trick would be an Anrdoid app that mimic an Ssh server but that create files via Android API [07:50] lotuspsychje: well in the case they are capable of getting a working ssh server on the phone then ubuntu support is still on topic, just further away from ubuntu slightly, but i could care less so fine. [07:51] that would be one option, and my question is basically if someone knows about such thing [07:51] renn0xtk9: i can test on my phone [07:53] renn0xtk9: have you tried asking in #android? [07:55] erm [07:55] wat [07:55] you can literally get an ssh server app from the store [07:55] ;p [08:00] regarding usb , I connect my phone, I can browse the SD card and in the browser it has a path like that mtp:/Honor 9 Lite/Samsung-Speicherkarte/ [08:01] how can I copy a given file over ther [08:05] renn0xtk9: can't you just drag or copy/paste them in the file manager? [08:06] i've done that before [08:06] ducasse: I would to that If I would not be lazy [08:07] but if I have ubuntu, isn't it to script everything after all ? [08:07] ^^ [08:08] renn0xtk9: you want to do it from the cli? [08:09] ducasse: exactly [08:10] never mind this is what I said about the mtp stuff [08:10] 2 minuts I am connected [08:10] and it died again [08:10] I cannot browse it in the browser [08:10] back in the days there were smartphone that you could connect as Mass usb storage [08:10] some guy had to come with this idea of mtp ... . [08:11] and since then it never worked anymore . [08:17] ducasse do you know of anyway at least to copy over cli>? [08:18] renn0xtk9: iirc gvfs should make mtp-mounted devices available under /run somewhere [08:20] Hello guys, I been hearing rumours that Ubuntu will go ahead implementing more apps that user installs via apt-get as snaps going ahead. Is this true? [08:21] can someone help me troubleshoot high load on a ubuntu system? [08:21] i'm at load average at around 4.. 12% cpu utilization, 0.5 in I/O wait time [08:21] Highload on what? RAM or ? [08:22] Thats not bad. [08:23] borw3: we don't really know about that, we're just volunteers [08:25] zamba: atop and dstat are nice tools for seeing what's going on [08:25] htop has nicer ui but doesn't show as much as atop [08:29] borw3: what would that mean, practically? [08:30] i install everything via apt-get in any case [08:30] More ugly apps, due to snaps. [08:31] We'll probably get more and more snaps, yes. [08:32] For example if you apt-get install chromium, you get the chromium snap [08:32] wtf are snaps [08:32] !snap [08:32] Snaps are containerised software packages similar to flatpaks or appimage. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io [08:33] that's pretty fancy... [08:34] !timeshift [08:34] i am working chown and chmod - is chown usefull if i had many users ony my computer ? because right now i have only myself as user and a group that i created and there is nobody in that group except me, so my question is chown is good to use if i had multiple users correct ? [08:34] does anyone know if its possible to use option 43 or option 125 in a class in isc-dhcp? Can't seem to find any documentation on it [08:36] ikarus987: plenty of daemons have their own user account.. what are you trying to achieve though? Your question doesn't really make sense [08:36] chown is useful for me if i don't remember the numbers for chmod. but then again, maybe i should remember the numbers for chmod. [08:37] containers are a euphimism for pretending to use less resources and ending up using more resources [08:37] triffid_hunter what i am saying is chmown is change user correct ?, whats the point of changing user when you are the only user on the pc [08:37] and serverless/functions are a euphimism for pretending to use even less resources and ending up using even more resources [08:38] i just started linux yesterday :< so i am just playing with moving files and giving them permission [08:38] ikarus987: security/isolation: so your irc proxy cannot (by accident or after being broken into) read/modify your web server's files [08:39] but in principle, containers and functions (functional isolation) sound good and maybe some clever people use them to save time and money? [08:39] hello [08:39] mgedmin this is just a virtualbox [08:40] but i am curious anyways, what you mean ? [08:40] how to disable prompts for do-release-upgrade ? it seems like even if i use do-release-upgrade -p -f DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive it STILL has prompts... [08:40] first prompt is at Configuration file '/etc/ntp.conf [08:40] afaik it is a bug, but how the heck to go around it ? [08:41] im upgrading from xenial to bionic [08:43] could someone plz confirm if chown command is useful if you have multiple users? otherwise if you are the only only person using the pc then chmod is good for now [08:43] ? [08:44] ikarus987: of course chown is useful [08:45] so for me its not usefull [08:45] unless i create multiple users on that pc [08:45] correct ? [08:46] ikarus987: it is if you want to assign permissions to a daemon (system service) for example [08:46] thx another thing to google [08:47] ikarus987: it's not just for human users [08:48] so an owner can ebe a program [08:48] ok that explains it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/1796193 [08:48] Launchpad bug 1796193 in apt (Ubuntu Disco) "DistUpgradeViewNonInteractive crashes / requires interaction" [Undecided,New] [08:48] any idea how to workaround this bug ? [08:49] ikarus987: absolutely, and it often is [08:50] !permissions | ikarus987 read this [08:50] ikarus987 read this: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions [08:51] thanks alot [08:52] ikarus987: also this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/File_permissions_and_attributes#Changing_ownership [08:52] leeyaa: didn't you say yesterday in #ansible that you found a workaround for this? [08:52] mgedmin i thought so lol [08:52] it worked on a few systems, but they had no ntp conf [08:53] augh?!?!? [08:53] currently i am trying on a system where i manually deleted ntp config [08:53] see how that goes [08:56] nope now it got stuck at /etc/sysctl.conf [08:56] leeyaa: did you see that comment about a 5 second sleep before it gives the automated answer? [08:56] also how come --force-confold didn't help??? [08:57] i think i didnt use --force-confold on this system [08:57] going to try on next [08:57] i need to upgrade like 300 vms [08:59] that sounds fun! [09:00] i will check it out after lunch break [09:00] I always thought people who had hundreds of VMs treated them as disposable and would just create new ones using some kind of automation [09:01] mgedmin i cant just recreate our db vms [09:01] that will take more time [09:01] even with automation. === L30_ is now known as bipul [09:15] greetings, how do I fix "configure: error: Your OpenSSL installation is misconfigured or missing" when I have openssl, libxml2 and libxml2-dev already installed [09:19] Hello, can someone help me, how do I see a log of this chat as I had help already that I want to go back and look at [09:20] !log | Guest_8 [09:20] Guest_8: Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ [09:23] !log | Guest_8 [09:23] Guest_8, please see my private message [09:25] which log is for here? is it #ubtunu+1 [09:26] Guest_8: #ubuntu [09:26] should be called #ubuntu [09:27] I can't see that in the list [09:27] should #ubuntu.txt [09:28] ah i have it thank [09:29] which file do I need to point ecryptfs-recover-private at to recover my home dir? [09:29] I did manage to do this, but have not been able to do so again [09:31] Guest_8: iirc /home/youruser/.ecryptfs/private or similar [09:33]