[18:33] OvenWerks: I'm about ready to kick Ralf off of the ML. He offers criticism without any willingness to help and is rarely constructive. He thinks it's his job to keep us in-line. The ego on the man is gigantic and I don't think we have room for that type of person. [18:47] he has been kicked off the arch Mailing lists the Linux audio user mailing list and maybe more. [18:53] you may find he doesn't use ubuntu on his machine... though he might be again. He seems to enjoy doing complex setups. [18:55] He has never used -controls so far as I can tell but rather uses his own scripts which he is willing to share with people but which also involve installing or removing software... so even more intrusive than Cadence. [18:56] So it works for him, just as he says, but it is not for the average person. [18:56] undoing something of his is basically a fresh install. [20:55] Well, he's not contributing in any positive way. That's my frustration. [20:55] He thinks by interjecting his opinion he's "helping" newbies. [20:56] And yes, I know he uses Arch. Unfortunately, he also has a superiority complex.