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IrcsomeBot<fairhb> Is there documentation on how to configure dual monitors, such that my application locations, remain unchanged?  As it stands now, when I connect my secondary monitor, everything reverts, even though I have my main screen set as primary.  I am running Plasma version 5.15.4 if it makes a difference.00:35
valorie@fairhb you might check to be sure that your ~/.config is owned by your user, and not root01:01
valorie!permissions01:02
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions01:02
oh4is there a setting somewhere for Additional Drivers on Kubuntu 19? I don't see it in the Drivers software02:02
oh4Driver Manager*02:03
user|7458help[02:11
valorieoh4: which additional drivers?02:14
valorieuser|7458: help with what?02:14
valorie!help02:14
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience02:14
IrcsomeBot<fairhb> @valorie, .config is owned by me not root02:15
valoriehmmm, then your selections should have been saved02:15
valoriehowever, some set up plasma to *not* save on logout02:16
oh4valorie: looking for the broadcom b43 but looks like my installation didn't go well02:16
valorieso you might check that02:16
valorie!broadcom02:16
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx02:16
valorieoh4: ^^^02:16
oh4I'm missing a lot of options..even when running "sudo apt install xxx" I get that the package isn't available even for vim or git02:16
valoriehmmm02:17
oh4so something didn't go right with the install at all, which probably explains not seeing the addition drivers option02:17
oh4I'll retry the install and see what's up02:17
oh4;)02:17
valorievim could be included, but git certainly isn't02:17
IrcsomeBot<fairhb> @valorie, would is that setting?02:17
IrcsomeBot<fairhb> *where02:17
valorie System settings > desktop session02:18
IrcsomeBot<fairhb> @valorie> System settings , On Login, it is set to restore previous session02:20
valoriehmmm02:20
valoriehow about logout?02:20
valorieset to save?02:20
IrcsomeBot<fairhb> this happens regardless of rebooting.  when i plug in a second monitor it rearranges everything once the second monitor is initialized02:21
valorieI guess I would ask in #plasma -- during euro-working-hours02:21
IrcsomeBot<fairhb> i set my laptop screen as primary, and monitor as secondary.  those setting remain after reboot02:21
valoriethat's a devel chan, but they very much want multi-monitor to work perfectly02:22
IrcsomeBot<fairhb> roger that.  thanks for helping troubleshoot02:22
valorieyw02:23
mysnapsucksI was just wondering if anyone had had any extreme DE messups whilst using Snaps? Where the clock widget resets hours in the past, all the tray icons swap around and generally become unusable, and magically it all fixes the second the Snap is closed?03:13
valoriewow, that seems extreme03:37
valorieI've not experienced anything like that03:37
[Relic]is it just saving the last state of the widget bar?  I get that after several times of fullwindow apps that set video display, then I have to reboot to clear it since the entire task manager is usually funny and not showing everything open at that point, but the instant you close that last program it reverts03:45
[Relic]of course it may be tied to multiple virtual windows03:46
seedlingHello05:25
andrewhi05:56
lordievaderGood morning06:32
m_tadeuhi...I have a disk that works flawlessly on windows but refuses to work in my kubuntu...first time I see such thing...has anyone have info about this?09:49
lordievaderAny details about the disk?09:49
lordievaderNvme drive?09:49
m_tadeuit's a 2T sata ssd09:52
m_tadeuconnected through a usb3 dock09:52
lordievaderWhat is the output of `lsblk`?09:53
m_tadeusdi      8:128  0   1,8T  0 disk09:53
lordievaderSo... it is seen?09:54
m_tadeukind of....can't do anything with it...here the syslog https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/J7xvzYNZj9/09:57
lordievaderIt gives IO errors (very explicitly in line 107).09:59
lordievaderMaybe not connect it via a dock but directly?09:59
m_tadeuother disks work just fine throught the dock10:00
m_tadeuand...unfortunatelly I have no spare sata connector10:00
tolszakHave some encountered issues with using Connections on object that has signal with argument. Refering to signal argument by name works but not under gdb10:03
tolszakUnder gdb I got error - "pageIndex is not defined"10:03
tolszakpageIndex is signal argument10:03
BluesKajHi folks11:24
pragomerhi, I am missing (sure: not finding) a function that I know from windows and in plasma I cannot detect it: I would like to define for my folder "pictures" lets say thumb view, and for documents "list view" in dolphin.11:48
pragomerin dolphins settings there are two options: remember for each folder or one setting for all... but I am missing: define it for one folder and all its subfolders.11:49
pragomerwhere is it? ;-)11:49
BluesKajopen dolphin>settings>configure dolphin11:51
BluesKajyou'll need to enable the main toolbar11:52
BluesKajpragomer,^'11:52
pragomer"configure dolphin" is clear so far..11:56
pragomerhttp://i.imgur.com/EqGELHB.png11:57
pragomerits in german unfortunatly...11:57
pragomeri know this is a setting, I mean this:11:57
pragomerhttp://i.imgur.com/M1SfMGN.png11:57
pragomerbut 2nd entry means one setting for ALL folders, right?11:58
IrcsomeBot<Waldbursche> @pragomer, yes11:58
pragomeryes, and I am searching for a way to define folder "picutes" and all subfolders "thumbview", for all other: detailed view...11:59
IrcsomeBot<Waldbursche> @pragomer, Here the subfolders assume the settings of parent11:59
pragomerno, they dont.. thats the problem...12:00
pragomerwhen I got to lets say documents folder... switch to detailed view... whenever I go into a subfolder it goes in thumbview... so I would have to define this for about a few hundred folders and subfulders..12:01
IrcsomeBot<Waldbursche> (Photo, 218x81) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/Pw73L4EP/file_18675.jpg Here to fix. This setting is going to "bookmark" for each folder and his childs12:01
pragomerno sorry, it does not for the childs in my case :-(12:03
IrcsomeBot<Waldbursche> @pragomer, Oh sorry, i see, you want different settings for your folders.  Hmmm... i don't know a fix for your problem. Sorry...12:05
IrcsomeBot<Waldbursche> @pragomer, Solution is: you must define for each folder your setting12:09
pragomeryes, I think so, too unfortunatly... thats the ONLY thing windows (explorer) can better than linux ans plasma ;-)12:41
isomarigreetings, how can I completely destroy tracker? it's really driving me insane.13:17
BluesKajisomari, sudo apt purge tracker13:19
isomariBluesKaj: the list of stuff that it wants to take with it scares me.13:30
aedigitalmaybe move files tracker*.desktop from /etc/xdg/autostart13:32
aedigitalit's better idea13:33
BluesKajisomari, rather than purge , then just remove tracker and the dependencies will remain13:37
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/WPynVwi7/file_18681.jpg @RikMills17:40
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> @Linuxophil, Think that is like the one in this PC, though this is 25017:41
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> @RikMills, I production SSDs are those:17:52
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/naacMieK/file_18685.jpg17:52
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/ylHUtw1H/file_18686.jpg17:53
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Yeah, bet I could get 4x the size for same money now17:54
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Probably.17:56
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> I am itching to expell the last spinning rust from my desktop!17:56
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> But too expensive still.17:56
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Indeed. I have the 240GB ssd for / and /home, and 2x 1TB rotational for data.17:58
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Same setup here!17:58
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> (Photo, 1280x720) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/bSHLzoEo/file_18687.jpg17:59
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> It's the result of sequential upgrades, but it works quite well17:59
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Ok. Tell me how to best help you trouble shoot please. I have never done that in my life!18:00
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> I am in the life session now.18:01
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Troubleshoot what?18:01
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Chose the beta image18:01
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Sorry. Not a native speaker. I mean testing.18:02
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Oh! There's a new launcher!18:03
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> ??18:03
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> The "simple menu".18:05
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Wasn't there on 18.04.18:05
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Oh yeah, I added that to the plasma stuff in kubuntu-settings-desktop package, so it would be there by default18:07
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-settings/1:19.10ubuntu418:08
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> During Installation process:18:12
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Default keyboard layout does not follow selected language.18:12
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/170685918:13
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> instead defaults to English18:13
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1706859 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Bionic) "Auto-selected keyboard layout no longer matches chosen region on "Where are you" page" [Medium,Triaged]18:13
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> great!18:13
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> I have been trying to get that fixed by Ubuntu for ages, but some people claim it is not even a bug!18:14
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> How's that not a bug?18:14
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Functionally it sure is!18:14
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> They argue that for many locales, the old behavior chose the wrong langiuage variant. So that not trying to guess is better than trying to guess, and getting it wrong.18:16
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Error in the German translation on confirmation screen for reformatting the drive.18:17
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> I hope is is meaned to say "parttion tables WILL BE changed". Now it says WERE changed.18:18
IrcsomeBot<RikMills> Not surprised. The Ubiquity translations from Ubuntu are not great in many cases.18:19
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Also, the buttons (OK and Cancel) are inverted.18:19
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> OK is left and cancel is right. On the screens before and after that one, it is the other way around.18:20
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> No deal breaker, but annoying.18:20
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> The displayed plasma image in the slideshow during installation is not reagionalized.18:24
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Some parts of the text is not translated at all.18:24
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> on pages 1, 4 and 5 of the slideshow.18:25
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> I think it is installing the nvidia driver now! 😊18:25
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Wow! It by default chose a perfect magnification for my 27" 4K monitor!18:32
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Keep in mind, I come from Kubuntu 18.04 and thus Plasma 5.12.18:33
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Weirdly though, The scaling factor displayed in the monitor part of settings is 1.18:34
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> ...but the mouse cursor gets miniscule when I point it onto the window bar or the favorites section of the starter menu.18:39
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Missing translations: "refresh driver list" button in the driver tool.18:44
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> checkbox "Enter UEFI setup on next restart"18:44
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Driver tool is now running for 5 mins "collecting information" to no effect.18:47
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> closing and restarting it revealed that my GTX1070 is using the recommended 435 nvidia driver directly after install. 😊18:53
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> When trying to make a vault, the drop down menu for selection of encryption on the last screen is empty.18:56
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> going back one screen and then proceed again cures that problem.18:57
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> The icon of the widget "Show desktop" changed to this after installation:19:01
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/sxOQKtYX/file_18688.jpg19:01
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Also: May I suggest switching out this widget "show desktop" for "minimize all windows" at the same place?19:02
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> It is super easy to change, but it make so much more sense to just have it from the beginning.19:03
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> I cannot set "super+D" as the shortcut for "minimize all windows. When I try, it activates the "show desktop" funktion.19:07
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> Even though there seems to be no shortcut set for the "show desktop" widget.19:08
nalckHello, where is the best place to discuss the Kubuntu 19.10 beta ?19:24
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> I would have hoped that it is here!19:31
IrcsomeBot<avinash512> Hello all. Happy Friday. Is there a way of setting plasma to turn off screen after locking screen? Similar to how Gnome does? Googling helped me little with old articles.19:35
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> I think plasma uses the same countdownfor screen deactivation after logout than inside a session.19:37
IrcsomeBot<Linuxophil> @avinash512, .19:37
nalckShould I report bugs to Kubuntu launchpad or (using the built in Help > Report bug... feature) directly to the KDE bugtracker? The Kubuntu wiki seems to say the latter, but the wiki page also seems very old.19:39
valorienalck: #ubuntu+120:28
valorieand bug reporting - ask here!20:28
valoriebecause KDE bugs are best reported to KDE, while our packaging bugs are things we can fix directly20:29
nalckthanks valorie20:37
nalckI am experiencing a strange kind of visual artifact (or is the term screen tearing?) in Konsole --- especially when exiting from interactive programs like top, htop, etc.20:38
valorieI mean you can always file a biug on LP: in the commandline: ubuntu-bug packagename20:38
valorieis the best20:38
valorieand if it turns out to be a KDE bug, you can link them20:38
nalckok thanks20:38
valoriehmm, that sounds like a video driver and/or compositor20:39
valorieyou can change compositor in systemsettings20:39
nalckvalorie: ok. what should I change it to?20:40
kalikatzafternoon, any good alternate gmail apps for kde? kmail still broken.20:40
valoriekalikatz: thunderbird?20:42
valorieor change to plain - googlemail20:42
valorieis what I hear20:42
valoriegoogle changed some API20:42
kalikatzya was hoping for something diffrent, new, or whatever.20:42
valorieemail gets more and more difficult20:45
valoriemore spam, changing APIs20:45
valorieetc.20:45
kalikatzya20:47
nalckvalorie, thanks for taking time to help me. for what it's worth I found the reason behind my bug here: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1044351/konsole-terminal-showing-tearing-when-running-commands20:57
valorieinteresting, nalck20:57
valoriethere have been recent improvements in scaling, especially on nvidia20:58
nalckI am on an all-AMD system, but my 1080p leads me to use 1.2 or 1.320:58
nalckone of the reasons why I use Kubuntu is how easy that is to do on this laptop :)20:58
nalckthis article also seems related: https://cullmann.io/posts/kde-qt-highdpi-scaling/20:59
nalckof interest is how the article mentions that 1.2 is bad for the floating-point math, but the "Display" menu doesn't offer the proposed better alternative of 1.25, it just skips to 1.321:02
nalckok sorry for the spam, I'll stop here. Looks like my issue is fixed upstream, would be cool to have this in the 19.10 release if feasible for people who use fractional scaling: https://phabricator.kde.org/D2432121:04
valorieit will be available in backports soon21:20

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