 Hmm interesting
 @UniversalSuperBox [One created the other, but through a removed process. The snap team took what th …], more like it was literally none of the people that worked on click doing something else and focused on IoT
 but if snaps makes sense on desktops then it should make sense on phone otherwise, convergence will be broken if we have different packaging on desktops and phones/tablets
 Convergece
 @UniversalSuperBox [It wasn't git clone click, but rather git init], Hey hi , I saw you on video , you were so patient
 Are Click packages obsoleted by Snappy packages? - Ask Ubuntu … https://askubuntu.com/questions/654024/are-click-packages-obsoleted-by-snappy-packages
 So yes @Javacookies . They could make sense for smartphone. But probably they miss something usefull for smartphone (not only in terms of smartphone specific app but also of functionality)
 Hi, is Convergence available on Meizu Pro 5 UT ver.?
 @HenrIann [Hi, is Convergence available on Meizu Pro 5 UT ver.?], what do you mean by convergence? It's a wide concept, wider than you think....
 @mattbel10 [what do you mean by convergence? It's a wide concept, wider than you think....], sorry, i mean casting to a bigger screen
 @HenrIann [sorry, i mean casting to a bigger screen], No problem. I never tried myself but, if I'm not mistaken, for the Pro5 there is the possibility to cast wireless to a bigger screen exploiting a functionality hidden in Screen properties, within the Settings app
 @mattbel10 [No problem. I never tried myself but, if I'm not mistaken, for the Pro5 there is …], I see. Thanks!
 (Photo, 1396x1142) https://irc.ubports.com/mOJTq2xj.png invst.xyz/M5OJW
 Boot.img unpack in Ubuntu , which software to use?
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 @Santosh [Boot.img unpack in Ubuntu , which software to use?], Its probably an ext4 file system? use file boot.img and tell us whats the outcome
 abootimg -x boot.img   … Now how to extract zImage?
 @HenrIann [sorry, i mean casting to a bigger screen], yes, it works well if you get a Microsoft Wireless Display Adapter.
 @Santosh [abootimg -x boot.img   … Now how to extract zImage?], Please google that, there is for sure a command for it
 Nobody will know the exact command, as we never do this :)
 @Javacookies [but if snaps makes sense on desktops then it should make sense on phone otherwis …], They don't make sense for either, and is nothing to do with convergence
 @dohbee [They don't make sense for either, and is nothing to do with convergence], no I just mean that if it make sense for desktop, so far Canonical think it does, then it should also apply to phones/tablet because of the idea of convergence
 @Javacookies [no I just mean that if it make sense for desktop, so far Canonical think it does …], and i'm saying it doesn't make sense for either :)
 I dont get it either
 Clicks are great
 And light
 But snaps
 Meh
 also, "being able to run legacy apps" is not convergence. it's just a crutch to stand on until apps could theoretically become converged
 @dohbee [also, "being able to run legacy apps" is not convergence. it's just a crutch to …], Yeah!  … Like running android apps (anbox / alien dalvik) on UT / SFOS is, until we have more native apps that do the work we need! … Whatsapp sucks!
[14:51] <ubptgbot> yeymy sol was added by: yeymy sol
[14:55] <ubptgbot> <yeymy sol> https://ubports.com/es_ES/
 yes, that's the spanish version of the home page of our web site
 you might be interested in joining https://t.me/UBports_ES if you want to discuss in spanish
[14:56] <ubptgbot> <yeymy sol> ok
 Anyone having issues with version 58 RC and swiping from the right, I cannot seem to 'half swipe' to close an app, the swipe from right just seems to rotate the apps.
 On Mako btw
 i don't think anything in unity8 has changed related to those things, in devel
 ok - interesting - i don't think i've messed with those settings in UT Tweak but will check. Rebooted and Powered off but still the same - will test and post back
 Hmm - odd I've changed the setting with Tweak and then reset them but no joy, can still close the apps via the launcher. Pretty sure that it was ok after straight after the update.  … ISO Drive was the last app I installed but I cannot see that effecting it?
 Will see state of play after next update to RC
 @iamjackscompletelackofsurprise [Hmm - odd I've changed the setting with Tweak and then reset them but no joy, ca …], ISODrive surely doesn't meddle with unity8 settings
 Yep - Didn't think it would, just thinking out loud.
 Not sure what's changed but its odd. Just going to see a bug has been filed
 Can any other mako confirm if this is an issue for them please?
 I went to see Joker this morning. Perhaps that's the reason! 😋
 @iamjackscompletelackofsurprise [Anyone having issues with version 58 RC and swiping from the right, I cannot see …], Wow thats weird
 Try changing to stable channek
 [Edit] Try changing to stable channel
 @malditobastardo [Wow thats weird], Yeah - Pretty sure it was ok directly after the update - Ok will change channels and post back
 @iamjackscompletelackofsurprise [Can any other mako confirm if this is an issue for them please?], In here all swipe gestures works good.. No issues. Latest rc installed.
 @samitormanen [In here all swipe gestures works good.. No issues. Latest rc installed.], Thanks for checking
 Just switching channels to test
 So all is ok on Stable. Will now go back to RC to see what happens...
 So back to RC and all is hunky dory. Thanks for the suggestion. Odd issue but that's IT.
 Hmmm. Really really odd but it's started being an issue again, soon as I opened Morph.
 But switchimg from Stable to RC had no updates so I guess that would be the latest OTA?
 Will go back to Stable
 It also seems to be reporting the incorrect channel in the update/channel settings
 So infact I did not go back to RC - Doing that now
 Weird
 Perhaps my Mako is on its way out...
 Ugh
 Try deleting cache and data (not config) with utweatktool and change to devel (don't worry. Devel is very stable)
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/QkGvRU5T.png
 [Edit] Try deleting cache and data (not config) with utweatktool for system settings and change to devel (don't worry. Devel is very stable)
 @dohbee [you might be interested in joining https://t.me/UBports_ES if you want to discus …], Makes me wonder if the link on the spanish version should lead to the spanish group
 Wait half swipe to close?
 Seems ok now I've gone back to RC
 By half swipe I mean swiping right so you can see what apps are open and then swiping up/down to close them
 If it happens again I will post back with circumstances
 It's monthly backup time so best do that...
 Happening again! Seems ok for one or two swipes then goes wonky - Will clear cache as per Maldito's suggestion
 @Fuseteam [Makes me wonder if the link on the spanish version should lead to the spanish gr …], blame wayne i guess?
 It's still misbehaving - Might switch to devel tomorrow - very odd issue
 Hi, my libertine container seems to be broken. It cannot be updated, modified or destroyed, neither using system con fig, nor libertine-container-manage. Is there a manual way of removing it ans starting over?
 @iamjackscompletelackofsurprise [By half swipe I mean swiping right so you can see what apps are open and then sw …], Is that two swipes? Long right edge + up/down swipe?
 @Fuseteam [Is that two swipes? Long right edge + up/down swipe?], yes
 Cause if i try it in one swipe it deffo doesn't work :p
 @Fuseteam [Cause if i try it in one swipe it deffo doesn't work :p], Which device are you using?
 If I go into Landscape it's better. Thought it was a hardware fault and it still may be, I've message with some settings in tweak and will see how it goes, on stable at the moment
 U J N keys seems flaky as well. Hoping this lasts until Pinephone
 Anyways enough tinkering, time to chill.
 @ruedigerkupper [Hi, my libertine container seems to be broken. It cannot be updated, modified or …], In Terminal type `libertine-container-manager destroy -i xenial` (if the container ID name is left to default - otherwise replace `xenial` with the container ID name)
[20:09] <ubptgbot> yesqiao was added by: yesqiao
 Thanks. As I told you above, this does not work. Managing the container does not work. That Is why I ask how I can manually remove it.
 What exactly do you mean by manually ?
 @ruedigerkupper [Thanks. As I told you above, this does not work. Managing the container does not …], you can make sure everything is unmounted and just delete the container's directory from under `~/.cache/`
 As I see, there are two high level interfaces for normal use: … 1. graphically via system settings … 2. via libertone-container-manage in terminal. … Both of them do not work for me (see above): … 1: Does nothing at all … 2: Breaks with error. … That is why ask where libertine containers are stored and how they can be remowed bypas
[20:41] <ubptgbot> sing these high level tools. Sorry, I don't know how to phrase it simpler..
 by empty i mean `mount -l | grep libertine` should be empty result. if it's not empty, anything listed in that grep needs to be unmounted
 or if developer mode is enabled, you can reboot to recovery, then connect with adb, mount the user data partition, then traverse the phablet home directory `.cache` folder to find the filesystem directory for the container, and remove it from there
 Thanks!
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 So... Turns out to be a hardware fault, I used finger paint and found a 'dead' section of the screen where it would not paint. I then used some 'Fonzy' skills and whacked my phone a few times and back to normal. ☺
 (Photo, 460x276) https://irc.ubports.com/7HpIt0m0.png
 [Edit] So... Turns out to be a hardware fault, I used finger paint and found a 'dead' section of the screen where it would not paint. I then used some 'Fonzie' skills and whacked my phone a few times and back to normal. ☺
 Eeeyyyy
 I just voted for Marius and Ubports in the Free Software Adwards ... We are going to give UbPorts a help, the Free Software Foundation is a very important organization.💪💪💪  … https://my.fsf.org/projects-of-social-benefit-award-nomination
 I was wondering why my battery performance on my Nexus 5 was awful... Like 10% per hour awful.
 Turns out my APN was wrong so it was in a loop trying to connect to the mobile network
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