| kenvandine | robert_ancell: around? | 02:01 |
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| didrocks | good morning | 05:32 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks | 05:34 |
| didrocks | hey duflu | 05:38 |
| marcustomlinson | morning desktopers! who can sponsor a libreoffice upload for me? :) | 05:57 |
| duflu | Morning marcustomlinson | 05:57 |
| marcustomlinson | hey duflu, how've you been? | 05:59 |
| duflu | marcustomlinson, glad to now have a working car | 05:59 |
| didrocks | marcustomlinson: that early? :) Ok, give it to me :) | 05:59 |
| marcustomlinson | didrocks: :D It's a small fix, nagging, so wanted it out of the way: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-m5DAYT-lxzUVBB_JOjtAcpvhvU2BrY-?usp=sharing | 06:00 |
| duflu | so that's an improvement of sorts | 06:00 |
| duflu | You marcustomlinson? | 06:00 |
| didrocks | marcustomlinson: do you mind generating a debdiff for me, please? | 06:01 |
| * didrocks downloads orig.tar.gz anyway | 06:02 | |
| marcustomlinson | duflu: oh that's good, I'm doing well thanks, nothing amazing, just good :) | 06:04 |
| marcustomlinson | didrocks: ok just a sec | 06:05 |
| marcustomlinson | didrocks: k debdiff in same folder | 06:08 |
| didrocks | marcustomlinson: hum, provides with version? | 06:10 |
| * didrocks looks at the spec | 06:10 | |
| didrocks | weird that C/R/P didn't get apt to do what it needs | 06:10 |
| didrocks | (you didn't mention the debian/rules changes in the changelog, but that's ok IMHO ;)) | 06:11 |
| didrocks | The exception is the Provides field, for which only = is allowed. | 06:11 |
| didrocks | ok ok, learnt something new today :) | 06:11 |
| marcustomlinson | :) | 06:12 |
| didrocks | I trust you tested it and apt is happy with the transition | 06:12 |
| marcustomlinson | didrocks: yeah, reproduced the issue, added my ppa, tried again, fixed | 06:12 |
| marcustomlinson | tested libreoffice itself with the style, all good too | 06:12 |
| didrocks | good :) Really weird that the usual unversion C/R/P didn't work, but the secret of solving N-P complete algorithm… :) | 06:13 |
| marcustomlinson | haha | 06:14 |
| didrocks | marcustomlinson: sponsored and waiting in unapproved | 06:20 |
| marcustomlinson | didrocks: excellent thank you :) | 06:21 |
| * marcustomlinson gets some coffee | 06:21 | |
| jibel | hi all | 06:22 |
| didrocks | marcustomlinson: yw ;) | 06:22 |
| didrocks | hey jibel | 06:23 |
| duflu | Morning jibel | 06:23 |
| * jibel reboots to check if the new ati drivers fix the rendering issues | 06:24 | |
| jibel | shortcut to open a terminal stopped working | 06:27 |
| jibel | is anyone seeing ^ on a up to date eoan | 06:28 |
| jibel | it works immediately after boot then stops | 06:29 |
| didrocks | I didn't reboot since I upgraded | 06:29 |
| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers | 06:30 |
| oSoMoN | and happy Friday! | 06:30 |
| didrocks | happy Friday oSoMoN! | 06:31 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 06:31 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 06:34 |
| duflu | jibel, that's been failing randomly for me for a year or more. But you should check it's not the whole keyboard and mouse clicks not responding bug | 06:35 |
| duflu | We don't have that fixed in archive yet AFAIK | 06:35 |
| duflu | Oh, "works immediately after boot" suggests a different issue | 06:36 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 06:37 |
| marcustomlinson | morning jibel and oSoMoN | 06:39 |
| oSoMoN | good morning marcustomlinson | 06:56 |
| oSoMoN | salut jibel | 06:56 |
| oSoMoN | been working late last night marcustomlinson ? | 06:56 |
| marcustomlinson | oSoMoN: "working" :) | 06:57 |
| marcustomlinson | just touch ups | 06:57 |
| oSoMoN | I got bugmail late, that counts as work too :) | 06:57 |
| marcustomlinson | I can't help myself with reading mails at night | 06:58 |
| marcustomlinson | and checking IRC periodically :P | 06:58 |
| oSoMoN | I admit I have trouble not reading e-mail if I'm in front of the screen, can't be bothered closing the tab | 06:59 |
| didrocks | oSoMoN: tabs? Are you not using thunderbird? :p | 07:03 |
| oSoMoN | didrocks, thunderbirds has tabs, too :) | 07:03 |
| didrocks | right, but who uses them? :p | 07:04 |
| === pstolowski|afk is now known as pstolowski | ||
| jibel | I do too | 07:10 |
| duflu | Does anyone here use Thunderbird for IRC? | 07:33 |
| duflu | I just noticed the Chat button recently | 07:33 |
| duflu | Must be blind | 07:33 |
| oSoMoN | heh, I hadn't noticed it either | 07:34 |
| * oSoMoN hides | 07:34 | |
| oSoMoN | I'll give it a try | 07:34 |
| dupondje | Hmmm Since upgrade to Eoan my numlock isn't enabled by default anymore on boot | 07:41 |
| dupondje | And led is sometimes out of sync with numlock status | 07:41 |
| dupondje | Is that configurable somewhere? | 07:42 |
| duflu | dupondje, bug 1845031 | 07:42 |
| ubot5 | bug 1845031 in mutter (Ubuntu) "gnome not remembering numlock state in eoan" [Low,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845031 | 07:42 |
| willcooke | hi all | 07:45 |
| oSoMoN | good morning willcooke | 07:45 |
| oSoMoN | thunderbird's IRC implementation won't connect to my ZNC instance, and it's not showing any logs either, so hard to know what's not working | 07:45 |
| willcooke | TIL: Thunderbird has an IRC client | 07:47 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke | 07:48 |
| oSoMoN | willcooke, me too, which is why I was giving it a try, but it hasn't gone very far | 07:50 |
| willcooke | heh | 07:50 |
| Laney | grrrrrrrr | 08:07 |
| willcooke | hi Laney | 08:08 |
| Gargoyle | So. Ubuntu Software - The Updates tab. For as long as I can remember, I will periodically get a notification which will land me on this tab and tell me there are updated available and gives me a "Download" button which does absolutely nothing. | 08:08 |
| duflu | Morning angry Laney | 08:08 |
| clobrano | hey everyone 0/ | 08:18 |
| duflu | Hi clobrano | 08:18 |
| marcustomlinson | morning willcooke Laney and clobrano | 08:18 |
| duflu | tjaalton, I can't seem to install any nvidia but 430 on eoan. Is it just me? | 08:19 |
| tjaalton | duflu: dunno? what happens | 08:20 |
| tjaalton | and probably meant for tseliot | 08:20 |
| duflu | Ah | 08:20 |
| duflu | yes | 08:20 |
| duflu | tseliot, I can't seem to install any nvidia but 430 on eoan. Is it just me? | 08:20 |
| duflu | 390 has missing deps and 418 automatically installs 430 | 08:20 |
| duflu | In other news... | 08:22 |
| duflu | $ sudo apt install nvidia-driver-430 | 08:22 |
| duflu | After this operation, 499 MB of additional disk space will be used. | 08:23 |
| duflu | Welcome to the 21st century | 08:23 |
| dupondje | duflu: thx! | 08:36 |
| jibel | Laney, hi, any chance you can finish the review of ubiqutiy? | 08:48 |
| Laney | I am doing right now | 08:48 |
| Laney | tried to install into the inspiron but it failed to reboot into the installed system | 08:49 |
| Laney | probably that ESP problem you found | 08:49 |
| oSoMoN | ricotz, hey, the problem with firefox 70 being partially localized appears to be an upstream regression: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/1586216 | 09:07 |
| ubot5 | Mozilla bug 1586216 in Untriaged "Translations from language pack are not fully loaded in firefox 70.0" [Normal,Unconfirmed] | 09:08 |
| oSoMoN | I'm putting further investigation on hold in the hope that upstream will acknowledge it and fix it | 09:08 |
| tseliot | duflu, missing dependencies? | 09:11 |
| tseliot | duflu, also, 418 is expected to migrate to 430. We also have the 435 series. Still 390 should work | 09:14 |
| duflu | tseliot, yeah I got the same error from 390 on the command line or trying to install it via the GUI | 09:15 |
| duflu | But I don't care now -- back on Intel till at least next week | 09:15 |
| ricotz | oSoMoN, hi, thanks, sorry that I was/am busy with other things. I am suspecting the mechanism/support which downloads locale extensions automatically when switching the language in preferences->general | 09:15 |
| duflu | But I don't care now -- back on Intel till at least next week | 09:16 |
| duflu | It must be time to think about the weekend | 09:17 |
| willcooke | have a good one duflu | 09:17 |
| oSoMoN | enjoy duflu | 09:17 |
| duflu | Well, not quite yet | 09:17 |
| Laney | jibel: is there a bug for that ESP thing btw? | 09:21 |
| * duflu wonders if it's the same as he hit in Paris | 09:22 | |
| Laney | actually I should check it is just EFI being generally broken and not zfs+EFI ;-) | 09:24 |
| * Laney does One More Test Install™ | 09:24 | |
| duflu | Hmm, not it sounds like my issue was fixed as bug 1845466 | 09:27 |
| ubot5 | bug 1845466 in grub2 (Ubuntu Eoan) "UEFI/Secureboot - "Failed to start MokManager" error when trying to install 3rd party drivers during install, leading to unbootable device" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1845466 | 09:27 |
| duflu | Hmm, no it sounds like my issue was fixed as bug 1845466 | 09:27 |
| Laney | different from this one I'm seeing | 09:27 |
| Laney | the installation succeeds without error and then the system doesn't boot | 09:27 |
| Laney | either loops or you get an EFI shell or some problem like that | 09:27 |
| jibel | Laney, which build? | 09:40 |
| Laney | good question | 09:40 |
| jibel | you boot the system and the iso in uefi? | 09:40 |
| Laney | yes | 09:40 |
| jibel | i'll try with latest build | 09:40 |
| Laney | 20191003 | 09:41 |
| Laney | now checking disco to make sure I am not doing something wrong ... | 09:41 |
| jibel | k, so recent enough | 09:41 |
| Laney | this seems to be me | 09:46 |
| Laney | disco is doing the same thing and that was surely working | 09:46 |
| Laney | oh yeah /o\ /o\ /o\ /o\ | 09:47 |
| Laney | helps if you select the disk as a boot device | 09:47 |
| * marcustomlinson facepalms | 09:47 | |
| marcustomlinson | :D | 09:48 |
| Laney | the 'help' output from the OVMF shell scrolls off the top of the display so I didn't know how to make it print which partitions it can see :-) | 09:49 |
| Wimpress | Afternoon desktoppers o/ | 11:08 |
| marcustomlinson | hey Wimpress | 11:08 |
| oSoMoN | hey Wimpress | 11:10 |
| Wimpress | didrocks jibel Is the ZFS on root going to land for 19.10 final? | 11:11 |
| Wimpress | If so, will the be for all flavours or is there something flavour need to do to opt-in? | 11:11 |
| Wimpress | Asking so that I can assist any flavours that want to participate over the weekend. | 11:12 |
| Wimpress | I'm obviously interested for Ubuntu MATE :-) | 11:12 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: it's currently being reviewed/tested by Laney | 11:13 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: the way to enable it for a flavor is to have zfsutils-linux seeded for them | 11:14 |
| Laney | should get it in soon | 11:14 |
| didrocks | be warned though that it's experimental | 11:14 |
| didrocks | and maybe there will be no upgrade path to the LTS | 11:14 |
| didrocks | </no-warranty-stanza> :) | 11:15 |
| Gargoyle | Hi all. I've got an issue where my chosen audio devices are not being remembered. It doesn't seem to matter if I change from a gnome extension I have installed, or if I go the long way round to Settings->Sound. I've got no idea where to start looking for problems - anyone got any ideas? (Currently running 19.10, but has been happening on 19.04 too) | 11:15 |
| Laney | Gargoyle: try using pavucontrol, if it works there then probably file a bug under gnome-control-center (ideally upstream) | 11:26 |
| Laney | chrisccoulson mentioned a problem like that so maybe there is one filed already | 11:26 |
| chrisccoulson | there isn't - I should probably file one. I don't know if it's actually a regression, or whether it's just something that started with my new laptop and dock (which has never had anything other than eoan on it) | 11:27 |
| Gargoyle | I had it on 19.04, but I have been running a non standard kernel pretty much since the upgrade to 19.04. | 11:29 |
| Gargoyle | Laney: Can't figure out how pavucontrol is going to help. I can see all the devices and I can configure each one, but there doesn't seem to be an option for setting a default. | 11:36 |
| Laney | k | 11:36 |
| Gargoyle | Unless "Set as Fallback" == "Set as Default"? | 11:37 |
| Laney | dunno, maybe I don't remember what's in there | 11:37 |
| Laney | you get what I'm asking you to do: eliminate the GNOME component | 11:37 |
| Gargoyle | OK. I'll see what happens on the next reboot. | 11:38 |
| Laney | if it's not pavucontrol maybe it's something else that I forgot the name of | 11:39 |
| Laney | 🙊 | 11:39 |
| Wimpress | didrocks: Is there an FFe bug I can piggy back on to land `zfsutils-linux` in Ubuntu MATE? | 11:55 |
| Wimpress | Also, which seed should `zfsutils-linux` be added to? | 11:56 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: well, one you are using for Mate | 11:57 |
| didrocks | on the FFe, one sec | 11:57 |
| Laney | jibel: I think it's good - a suggestion is https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5wqb7P28m3/ for general safety when looping over a directory (in bash you'd use shopt -s nullglob, but not available in dash) | 11:58 |
| Wimpress | didrocks: I mean should `zfsutils-linux`` be in the desktop seed or `live`? | 11:58 |
| Laney | but if you want to rely on you knowing that home/ can never be empty, ... I guess that's ok | 11:58 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: desktop, you want to have it installed on the dest system | 11:58 |
| Wimpress | Thanks. | 11:59 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: bug #1843768 | 11:59 |
| ubot5 | bug 1843768 in ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Ubiquity with zfs install option" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1843768 | 11:59 |
| Wimpress | Cheers didrocks | 11:59 |
| didrocks | yw ;) | 11:59 |
| Laney | the posix behaviour is that you get "/target/home/*" as a literal string which is a bit lame | 12:00 |
| Laney | https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/GzbgShx4cW/ | 12:00 |
| Laney | wonder what the reason for that behaviour is | 12:00 |
| jibel | Laney, ok, ill' add this | 12:02 |
| jibel | Laney, done | 12:04 |
| Laney | thanks!!!!!! | 12:08 |
| Laney | want to try this then? | 12:09 |
| jibel | raelly? | 12:10 |
| jibel | can do | 12:10 |
| Laney | WCPGW | 12:10 |
| jibel | what indeed | 12:11 |
| jibel | everything will but we'll fix it | 12:11 |
| Laney | actually I wanted to sneak in the max-width-chars change for the 'installation has finished' dialog as well | 12:11 |
| jibel | it'd be nicer | 12:12 |
| Laney | let me just test and then you can review if you don't mind | 12:12 |
| jibel | ok | 12:12 |
| RikMills | I assume no zfs support added for the KDE front end here? | 12:19 |
| jibel | RikMills, no, just gtk | 12:19 |
| jibel | RikMills, you can have a look at the MP if someone wants to port the gtk side to kde | 12:20 |
| jibel | https://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/373087 | 12:20 |
| jibel | most of the change is a shell script | 12:21 |
| RikMills | jibel: ok. that is fair enough. gtk can be guinea-pigs. I doubt a KDE port of that could be ready for 19.10, but having it for 20.04 is a good target | 12:21 |
| Laney | https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/grim.png | 12:22 |
| Laney | think that's a bit small ... | 12:22 |
| willcooke | Laney, waaaaaay better | 12:22 |
| Laney | that is 50, should I try more? | 12:22 |
| willcooke | I think it looks right | 12:22 |
| jibel | the most beautiful dialog of Ubiquity ;) | 12:22 |
| Wimpress | Lulz | 12:23 |
| Laney | definitely a fix for the ubuntu twitter account ;-) | 12:28 |
| Laney | mpt: want to rubber stamp our taming of Ubiquity's over long dialog https://people.canonical.com/~laney/weird-things/grim.png ? | 12:30 |
| Laney | feel free to abstain | 12:30 |
| mpt | Laney, is that the before or the after? | 12:31 |
| Laney | after | 12:31 |
| Laney | guessing it's not burned into your brain then | 12:31 |
| Laney | the current one has that whole string on one line | 12:31 |
| Laney | it reaches from one end of the screen to the other :-) | 12:31 |
| mpt | Yikes, how long had it been like that? | 12:32 |
| Laney | that screenshot is a maximum width of 50 chars which is a number that could be tweaked | 12:32 |
| Laney | many releases | 12:32 |
| Laney | I think GTK made a change several years ago that we should have adjusted to, and we never did | 12:32 |
| Laney | for ... some reason ... | 12:32 |
| mpt | Well then, improvement, +1 | 12:35 |
| Laney | Righto, thanks | 12:36 |
| Laney | I think I can't see it properly because I'm too used to the old dialog | 12:36 |
| Laney | for me 50 looks weirdly compressed | 12:36 |
| Laney | cheers for the feedback | 12:36 |
| Laney | jibel: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/HRmcY3jd9k/ | 12:39 |
| jibel | k | 12:44 |
| mpt | (Unsurprisingly, that dialog isn’t supposed to exist, it’s supposed to be just the final step in the main window) | 12:44 |
| jibel | sometimes devs try to be creative | 12:47 |
| jibel | .... and shouldn't | 12:47 |
| Laney | There's quite a lot of TODO: <implement the design> in ubiquity | 12:47 |
| Laney | hmm | 12:49 |
| Laney | do I need to do anything about the translation template | 12:49 |
| Laney | jibel: didrocks: we will need to mail the translators won't we, to hopefully get this translated in most languages | 12:49 |
| jibel | yes we do | 12:50 |
| Laney | not quite sure how this ends up in the template, one second ... | 12:51 |
| Laney | xnox: do you know if ubiquity translation templates happen automagically? | 12:52 |
| Laney | template updates* | 12:54 |
| xnox | Laney: no idea. Better ask vorlon cyphermox sil2100 | 12:57 |
| Laney | :> | 12:57 |
| Laney | don't see it in the source at all, it is a mystery | 12:57 |
| jibel | sil2100, ^ do you know how translations of ubiquity are updated? | 13:09 |
| mpt | If you aren’t changing the string at all, why are translations involved? | 13:17 |
| jibel | there are new strings | 13:19 |
| jibel | for zfs | 13:19 |
| Laney | it's maybe okay since they are in debian/ubiquity.templates already | 13:22 |
| Laney | maybe we should try it and see if LP picks the strings up | 13:23 |
| jibel | Laney, change tested and pushed | 13:29 |
| Laney | jibel: cool, thanks, let's just try this | 13:35 |
| jibel | The proposal to merge ~jibel/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity:zfs_install_two into ubiquity:master has been updated. | 13:44 |
| jibel | Status: Needs review => Merged | 13:44 |
| jibel | \o/ | 13:44 |
| jibel | Thanks laney | 13:44 |
| willcooke | woot | 13:44 |
| jibel | BTW, I take next 2 weeks off ;) | 13:44 |
| willcooke | kthebye | 13:44 |
| willcooke | thx | 13:45 |
| didrocks | \o/ | 13:55 |
| didrocks | jibel: quick, let's run before the upload :) | 13:55 |
| Laney | it's got jibel's name on the changelog | 13:56 |
| Laney | NO ESCAPE! | 13:56 |
| jibel | oSoMoN, I lost all my dictionaries in thunderbird. Is there any know issue? | 13:58 |
| jibel | I only have en_us | 13:58 |
| jibel | and cannot switch to French | 13:58 |
| sil2100 | jibel: I don't know how translation of those works per-se, but from time to time I do update it manually by downloading the translations from LP and applying that on the source package | 14:08 |
| Laney | didrocks: feel free to update the seeds, then when it's all migrated we can make an iso happen if you want | 14:09 |
| Laney | would be good for someone to watch LP to see if the translations do get updated, & then mail the list about that | 14:10 |
| * Laney goes for a late lunch | 14:10 | |
| oSoMoN | jibel, your dictionnaries were extensions installed manually within thunderbird, right? | 14:18 |
| oSoMoN | jibel, can you share the output of `find ~/.thunderbird -name *.dic` | 14:20 |
| didrocks | Laney: seed updated and ubuntu-meta refresh/uploaded | 14:22 |
| didrocks | (with the fonts* changes from jibel) | 14:22 |
| hellsworth | morning, folks! | 14:43 |
| kenvandine | good morning hellsworth! | 14:45 |
| hellsworth | hi :) | 14:45 |
| didrocks | hey hellsworth | 14:52 |
| hellsworth | hi didrocks! happy friday :) | 14:53 |
| didrocks | Happy Friday hellsworth :) | 14:58 |
| hellsworth | yes indeedy | 14:59 |
| Laney | jibel: it failed on some arches when applying the patch | 15:30 |
| Laney | hey hellsworth | 15:30 |
| hellsworth | hidy ho! | 15:30 |
| cyphermox | IIRC things get imported from the upload; then you need to manually export and update translations | 15:31 |
| * cyphermox handwaves | 15:31 | |
| cyphermox | tbh, I'm not sure | 15:31 |
| === jamesh__ is now known as jamesh | ||
| jibel | Laney, ah, grub-installer doesn't exist on these archs. I'll update the rules to exclude the patch | 16:08 |
| Laney | nod | 16:09 |
| === pstolowski is now known as pstolowski|afk | ||
| hellsworth | why is https://packages.ubuntu.com/eoan/libxml++2.6-dev not found by apt on eoan? | 16:11 |
| hellsworth | it should be there | 16:11 |
| Laney | might need to be a bit more verbose | 16:15 |
| hellsworth | it's weird. `sudo apt search libxml++2.6-dev` gives me no results but you can install it | 16:15 |
| Laney | it's sure found here | 16:15 |
| hellsworth | yeah apt install works. | 16:15 |
| hellsworth | maybe a but with apt search? | 16:15 |
| hellsworth | idk | 16:15 |
| Laney | oh right, the package name will be being interpreted as a regex | 16:15 |
| Laney | escape those + | 16:15 |
| Laney | or use 'apt list' or 'apt policy' | 16:16 |
| hellsworth | aaaah that makes sense | 16:16 |
| infinity | Has anyone else run into the amazingly not reproducible bug where Ctrl-Alt-T (or whatever your terminal shortcut is) just stops spawning terminals, and it won't start working again until you restart your session? | 16:43 |
| infinity | It's happened to me twice in the last few months. First time, I assumed maybe an in-place upgrade broke it, but this time, I've touched nothing, it just stopped terminallying. | 16:44 |
| infinity | terminalling... | 16:44 |
| infinity | I'm not sure why I felt the need to fix a typo in my made-up verb. | 16:44 |
| Laney | NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHT me | 16:47 |
| Laney | that's handled by gsd-media-keys | 16:48 |
| Laney | check in the journal to see if anything shat itself | 16:48 |
| willcooke | night all | 16:54 |
| gQuigs | infinity: is it broken now? do other shortcut keys work? | 16:55 |
| gQuigs | I have had issues with some sort of loss of shortcuts/ability to type in certain windows | 16:56 |
| * gQuigs tries to find the bug | 16:57 | |
| infinity | gQuigs: Iz broken now. I don't really use other shortcuts, so hard to say. :P | 16:57 |
| oSoMoN | good week-end everyone! | 16:59 |
| hellsworth | you too! | 16:59 |
| infinity | gsd-media-keys does indeed have some poop in the journal. | 16:59 |
| * gQuigs was thinking of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mutter/+bug/1181666 but the workaround is to use Ctrl-alt-T, oh well I knew I remembered it from a bug | 17:02 | |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1181666 in GNOME Shell "gnome-shell randomly blocks mouse clicks from working in app windows" [Critical,Confirmed] | 17:02 |
| infinity | Output of journalctl -g gsd-media-keys > https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JT6wVZJ7GK/ | 17:02 |
| Laney | anything above the SIGTERM? | 17:02 |
| Laney | it's been broken since sep 27? | 17:02 |
| infinity | Erm, but that's not recent. | 17:02 |
| Laney | you tolerant person | 17:02 |
| infinity | Thanks, journalctl. | 17:03 |
| Laney | is gsd-media-keys.target active now? | 17:03 |
| infinity | No, it's been broken for about an hour. :P | 17:03 |
| infinity | That journalctl command failed me. | 17:03 |
| infinity | Maybe if I do -n100000 or something, so it's not reaching into the distant past. | 17:03 |
| Laney | journalctl -b | 17:03 |
| Laney | I'm off now - if systemctl --user status gsd-media-keys.target show it's not active, restart it & hopefully that should recover you | 17:06 |
| infinity | It claims to be active. | 17:06 |
| infinity | Will restart anyway. :P | 17:06 |
| infinity | Maybe.. | 17:06 |
| infinity | I feel like that should not still be attempting to restart. | 17:07 |
| gQuigs | infinity: aside, you might want to check your journal usage - I thought it was supposed to clear logs before that (journalctl --disk-usage) | 17:07 |
| infinity | Took about 2m to restart, but I have Ctrl-Alt-T back now. Fun. | 17:08 |
| infinity | Archived and active journals take up 3.3G in the file system. | 17:08 |
| Laney | something something X grabs | 17:08 |
| Laney | happy weekend | 17:08 |
| gQuigs | that's not huge (or at least my system has similar) so nvm | 17:09 |
| Laney | oh, we fixed that fading to screen lock bug btw | 17:09 |
| infinity | Laney: Oh, shiny! Thanks! | 17:09 |
| infinity | Laney: I mean, weird use-case on my part, but I found it handy. | 17:09 |
| Laney | upstream, not uploaded yet, next week | 17:09 |
| Laney | nah, it was meant to work, some refactoring broke the animation | 17:09 |
| infinity | Laney: (I'll often be working at two computers, watching laptop out of the corner of my eye, and smack shift to inhibit when I see it start to fade :P) | 17:09 |
| Laney | it was actually confusing and kind of crap because it meant the session locking was happening at the wrong time | 17:09 |
| infinity | Yes, I know there are ways to actually inhibit, but spacebar heating computer and all that. | 17:10 |
| Laney | I do that too | 17:10 |
| Laney | Desktop and laptop are both on my desk here, with two keyboards | 17:10 |
| infinity | Yeahp, same. | 17:10 |
| Laney | Tried synergy a few times, but ... it's just a bit rubbish | 17:10 |
| Laney | ok, laters for realz | 17:11 |
| infinity | Toodles. Weekend well. | 17:11 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: can you test something for me? | 18:10 |
| hellsworth | sure thing | 18:10 |
| kenvandine | refresh gnome-3-28-1804 --candidate | 18:10 |
| kenvandine | and | 18:10 |
| kenvandine | refresh gnome-characters --edge | 18:10 |
| kenvandine | and confirm characters works :) | 18:10 |
| kenvandine | gnome-3-28-1804 grew by 6M but I shaved over 14M off gnome-characters ;) | 18:11 |
| kenvandine | and simplified snap that use gjs | 18:11 |
| kenvandine | s/snap/snaps/ | 18:11 |
| hellsworth | nice!! | 18:11 |
| hellsworth | 👍 | 18:12 |
| hellsworth | haha well the character doesnt' work in hexchat but gnome-characters seem to work | 18:12 |
| kenvandine | :) | 18:13 |
| kenvandine | not related | 18:13 |
| hellsworth | can you point me to a diff of what you did? | 18:13 |
| hellsworth | yeah i know | 18:13 |
| kenvandine | galgalesh added gjs to the platform, which I hadn't done before because it wasn't relocation friendly | 18:14 |
| kenvandine | but... now that we have layouts we can handle that | 18:14 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-characters/commit/afa5663e76dd4cc4aa925dc7a5805d681ed39e03 | 18:14 |
| kenvandine | he's going to submit a PR to snapcraft adding the layout for gjs | 18:15 |
| kenvandine | which will simplify it | 18:15 |
| kenvandine | I also switched to using appstream as well | 18:16 |
| kenvandine | and moved the snap dir under build-aux | 18:16 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: which btw, i've been putting snap under build-aux for any project that has the flatpak packaging under build-aux | 18:17 |
| kenvandine | if the flatpak packaging is at the root, i put snap under root | 18:17 |
| hellsworth | yeah that makes sense | 18:17 |
| kenvandine | gnome-characters is now using build-aux for that, so i moved the snap dir | 18:17 |
| hellsworth | and christian hergert expressed desire yesterday for snap stuff to go in build-aux | 18:17 |
| kenvandine | only a few of the gnome projects are doing that so far | 18:18 |
| kenvandine | yup, i saw that :) | 18:18 |
| hellsworth | so anytime i touch a snap, i'll move it there too | 18:18 |
| kenvandine | cool | 18:18 |
| hellsworth | maybe we should do that even if there is no flatpak stuffs | 18:18 |
| kenvandine | snapcraft only recently grew support for build-aux :) | 18:18 |
| kenvandine | yeah, it's fine to move it there regardless | 18:18 |
| hellsworth | cool | 18:18 |
| kenvandine | we added build-aux to the search path for this very reason | 18:18 |
| hellsworth | nice | 18:19 |
| kenvandine | i'm going to let gnome-3-28-1804 bake in candidate over the weekend and see how the automated tests are looking next week | 18:20 |
| kenvandine | don't want to risk breaking anything on a friday :) | 18:20 |
| kenvandine | hellsworth: we need to make sure gjs makes it into gnome-3-34-1804 | 18:20 |
| kenvandine | it's not currently in gnome-3-32-1804{,-sdk} | 18:21 |
| hellsworth | ok | 18:21 |
| kenvandine | so we might miss it :) | 18:21 |
| kenvandine | on that note... time for lunch! | 18:21 |
| hellsworth | bon apetit! | 18:22 |
| hellsworth | kenvandine, why did you need to add the additional LD_LIBRARY_PATH and GI_TYPELIB_PATH in https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gnome-characters/commit/afa5663e76dd4cc4aa925dc7a5805d681ed39e03 ? | 18:36 |
| kenvandine | gjs needed that | 18:38 |
| hellsworth | ah ok. i wasn't sure if it was needed for adopt-info or parse-info or something else | 18:38 |
| ricotz | kenvandine, hi | 21:33 |
| kenvandine | Hey ricotz | 21:34 |
| ricotz | kenvandine, wbere can I see which vala version is in these snap gnome sdks? | 21:34 |
| ricotz | those are recommended to match there latest release as mentioned here https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Vala | 21:35 |
| ricotz | there/their | 21:36 |
| marcustomlinson | ricotz: https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-sdk/blob/gnome-3-32-1804-sdk/snapcraft.yaml#L133 | 21:36 |
| marcustomlinson | 0.44 | 21:36 |
| marcustomlinson | in gnome-3-32 sdk snap at least | 21:36 |
| kenvandine | https://gitlab.gnome.org/Community/Ubuntu/gnome-sdk/blob/3.32-1804-sdk/snapcraft.yaml#L133 | 21:37 |
| ricotz | ah it picks up the actual git branches | 21:37 |
| kenvandine | Oh, marcustomlinson is faster | 21:37 |
| kenvandine | gnome-3-28-1804 had the version in 18.04 updates | 21:37 |
| ricotz | (libgee should be bump to 0.20.2) | 21:37 |
| ricotz | kenvandine, I see | 21:38 |
| kenvandine | gnome-3-28-1804 is built from debs in 18.04. we're moving to building everything from git | 21:38 |
| ricotz | ok, this gives me something to look at | 21:39 |
| marcustomlinson | kenvandine: do you have the powers needed to kick a rebuild here: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/1:6.3.2-0ubuntu2/+build/17846875 | 21:39 |
| marcustomlinson | I've not seen that build error before, it reads like a racy test | 21:40 |
| marcustomlinson | this had built just fine in my ppa: https://launchpad.net/~marcustomlinson/+archive/ubuntu/libreoffice/+build/17842347 | 21:41 |
| ricotz | kenvandine, where is valac coming from to bootstrap the build? | 21:41 |
| kenvandine | marcustomlinson: i retried it | 21:41 |
| marcustomlinson | kenvandine: thanks | 21:41 |
| kenvandine | ricotz: marcustomlinson knows better | 21:41 |
| marcustomlinson | ricotz: from 18.04 updates | 21:41 |
| ricotz | kenvandine, ok | 21:42 |
| ricotz | marcustomlinson, I see, this brings me to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vala/+bug/1803136 | 21:42 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1803136 in vala (Ubuntu Bionic) "[SRU] Update to vala 0.40.16 in bionic" [Low,Confirmed] | 21:42 |
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