[00:00] ubottu: ping [00:00] pong! [00:00] wrong command? [00:03] ryuo: heh, it send me a privmsg to tell me it doesn't know the package name [00:03] ryuo: and it took me a while to figure out why it doesn't know the package and why I coul;dn';t find the package, even though apt-file knows about it: it's in multiverse! https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/manpages-posix [00:04] no wonder. it's not even in this universe. ;) [00:04] ryuo: I am a bit surprised that it's taken me until today to find out that my new machine is missing the posix manpages! [00:04] rofl [00:31] Ubuntu 18.04.3 Synaptic package manager will run in gnome xorg but not in gnome [00:32] texla: you mean not in gnome-wayland [00:34] lotuspsychje, My login script only says gnome,gnome classic,gnome xorg do not know which is wayland [00:34] texla: on 18.04, ubuntu on xorg is default, ubuntu on wayland the users choice [00:35] texla: synpatic on wayland not working is a known bug [00:35] lotuspsychje, should not it run on gnome even if it is wayland [00:36] lotuspsychje, Okay thanks for the info === zbenjamin is now known as Guest56836 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === jje_ is now known as jje [01:18] Can anyone shed light on this: Error: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.systemd1.UnitMasked: Unit -.mount is masked. [01:18] I'm not sure what unit -.mount is. [01:21] beatleboy07: its always nice if you also mention the whole story, details, ubuntu version, kernel, what are you trying to do? so volunteers can try to debug you a better way [01:22] That comes from an apt update. I'm running UbuntuStudio 19.04. [01:22] beatleboy07: could you pastebin your whole apt output please? [01:25] https://pastebin.com/Fj8BERuF [01:25] It seems to be unimportant to the entire process. But I'm having an error with apt upgrade that makes me wonder if it's connected. [01:25] beatleboy07: does, sudo apt full-upgrade influence this? [01:27] what the heck is causing that.. [01:28] Here's another paste for full-upgrade: https://pastebin.com/cjivQWaR [01:30] !info bluez disco [01:30] bluez (source: bluez): Bluetooth tools and daemons. In component main, is optional. Version 5.50-0ubuntu2.1 (disco), package size 962 kB, installed size 4570 kB [01:31] beatleboy07: that seems weird indeed.. [01:31] Eickmeyer: did you see this behaviour on studio before ? ^ [01:32] lotuspsychje: Hang on... [01:32] It is. I can't tell where the issue is. [01:32] I'd reboot, but I'm currently moving 120GB of data. [01:33] lotuspsychje, beatleboy07: Never seen that before. Not Studio-specifically though. [01:34] *specific [01:34] beatleboy07: how about a bluez purge & reinstall? [01:35] lotuspsychje, I'll give it a try. [01:35] what would cause -.mount to be masked? [01:35] what consequences does that have? [01:35] sarnold, I wonder the same thing. I can't do a systemctl unmask -.mount [01:38] I was able to purge bluez, but when trying to install, I get the same dpkg error that I had in the previous pastebin. [01:38] beatleboy07: I'm not a systemd expert but I *think* masking is intended to be an operation only the sysadmin ever does, and does via making symlinks [01:39] oh, there *is* an unmask. sorry. [01:39] beatleboy07: what error do you get when you try to unmask it? [01:40] sarnold, I get a systemctl: invalid option -- '.' [01:42] systemctl: invalid option -- '.' [01:42] Hint: to specify units starting with a dash, use "--": [01:42] systemctl [OPTIONS...] {COMMAND} -- -.mount ... [01:42] beatleboy07: ah, try systemctl unmask -- -.mount [01:42] The hint hasn't been helpful. [01:42] such a stupid design [01:42] Oh weird. [01:42] why did they ever make such an obnoxious choice to replace all the / chars with - [01:43] sarnold, that didn [01:44] sarnold, that didn't give me an error when I sent the systemctl command, but apt update gives me the unit is masked message again. [01:44] beatleboy07: weird [01:44] beatleboy07: is there anything in journalctl -e that looks relevant? [01:45] Oct 03 18:45:00 ckdUbuntuStudio audit[25324]: AVC apparmor="DENIED" operation="p [01:45] lines 979-1001/1001 (END) [01:45] That message over and over. [01:46] So weird. [01:46] I can't install mumble because of this. [01:47] man I hate journalctl [01:48] beatleboy07: can you pastebin the output of journalctl | grep DENIED | tail -20 ? [01:48] beatleboy07: that'll show us the last 20 apparmor DENIED messages [01:50] sarnold, it looks odd to me: https://pastebin.com/fcxZ3aQc [01:51] Looks like discord is involved. [01:51] beatleboy07: cool, thanks. that's *gross* but it's not probably not the cause of this issue [01:53] beatleboy07: how about systemctl status -- -.mount ? [01:55] https://pastebin.com/Aki3knAp [01:56] sarnold, It still is masked. I'm not sure what -.mount is. [01:57] beatleboy07: systemd makes .mount units for all the mountpoints on the system, I think so different services can depend upon them and only be started after the corresponding filesystem has been mounted [01:57] beatleboy07: this represents the root filesystem [01:57] beatleboy07: I'm not sure what it would mean to mask a mount unit -- does that prevent systemd from trying to mount the filesystem? or unmount the filesystem? does it *do* anything? I don't know :( [01:58] I feel like this may have started when I manually mounted other drives. [01:58] But I'm not certain. [01:58] This computer has three physical drives. === zbenjamin is now known as Guest14181 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:02] beatleboy07: what's your /etc/fstab look like? [02:02] (double-check there's no passwords in the thing before pastebinning it) [02:03] Yeah, it looks okay to me. I'm not exactly sure if the options are correct. [02:04] I don't think there are issues posting my UUID right? [02:05] none that I know of [02:06] https://pastebin.com/mVHr1RUs [02:06] Looks normal to me I think. [02:09] hmm, yeah, looks pretty similar to my bionic system http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/P8Snxz53gP/ -- the efi entry looks different from my disco system, http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5DmFx36GVk/ but that's .. just a weird system all around [02:10] I'm trying to re-partition a USB drive but gnome-disks says it's not mounted. [02:11] beatleboy07: sorry, I've got to take off. I'm not sure what to suggest next. [02:12] beatleboy07: if you';ve got the time and inclination it'd be nice if you could report that huge pile of discord DENIED messages [02:12] k_sze, I'm not sure about gnome-disks. I recommend gparted. [02:12] Your drive should not be mounted if you want to partition it. [02:12] beatleboy07: but I don't think that'll help you immediately, so no worries if you just want to focus on the problem at hand [02:13] beatleboy07: good luck :) and if you fix this, I'd be curious to hear how :) [02:13] sarnold, report that where? Discord developers? [02:14] beatleboy07: I was thinking snap developers, but maybe discord folks would like to know their snap isn't working quite right [02:14] Seems like a good idea [02:14] htey may not even know they have a snap :) heh [02:14] Yeah, the snaps are wild. [02:35] k_sze: are you still looking for help with repartitioning the usb storage? [02:35] tomreyn, it's fine. gnome-disks magically worked after I unmounted and replugged the USB disk. weird. [02:36] if it was previously mounted this would explain it. === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [05:40] hello i have a little thing i need help with, its small but i have no idea how to really deal with it. a long time ago a command accidentally made a folder just named " in my / directory with nothing in it. i have no idea how to delete it since no matter what i cant get my terminal to realize i really want to delete " [05:41] rm -r \" [05:46] thanks! [07:26] https://askubuntu.com/questions/1161494/npm-version-is-not-compatible-with-node-js-version [07:26] Who did this and why is this persisting to 19.10? === peter-bittner1 is now known as peter-bittner [07:34] npm shouldn't have been a separate apt package in the first place [07:34] but node and npm from apt has always been a mess. When I work with node I just grab a prebuilt tarball from nodejs.org, and deploy it in docker [07:37] geirha, this literally makes me sad [07:59] hello, I have an ec2 ubuntu 18.04 instance, that I installed the graphical interface on and confirmed gdm is working; however, I can figure out how to enable remote graphical access from my own ubuntu 18.04 instance; do I use rdp? vnc? [08:09] fritzroy15: if you just need to run a single application, you can connect via ssh using "ssh -X" option, then run the application command e.g. "firefox" and it will display on your local machine. [08:09] fritzroy15: others may know about full remote-desktop solutions. [08:10] fritzroy15: for the former, "X11Forwarding yes" must specified in /etc/ssh/sshd_config [08:10] (on the instance) [08:17] Whats the default lock screen un ubuntu 18.04? Not login screen, but the lockscreen. I would like to restore it to default [08:22] rory doesn't seem to work [08:22] i've enable X11Forwarding yes on both client and host [08:24] fritzroy15: what does this output, then? ssh -X user@host xeyes [08:25] fritzroy15: you might have to "sudo service ssh restart" on the host after changing the setting, not sure [08:25] ssh or sshd [08:27] ztychr: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity-greeter [08:28] ztychr: you should be asked to select default display manager and you should select lightdm [08:28] fritzroy15: After some exploration and experimentation with vnc to remote desktop to a Mac... Performance was so bad I eventually ended up using Google Remote Desktop. [08:28] ztychr: possibly more info here https://askubuntu.com/questions/1044793/how-to-change-the-ubuntu-18-04-default-greeter [08:32] rory: Thanks. But I don't want to change greeter. I'm good with gdm. Just wondered what the default lockscreen was. Maybe something in /usr/share/backgrounds? Can't remember or find the answer from google. [08:37] ztychr: Do a fresh install in a VM [08:37] Or boot a liveCD === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [08:42] ztychr: it's integrated into gnome-shell, i think. [09:49] Might have to yeah, thanks anyway. === KrisDouglas_ is now known as KrisDouglas === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [11:24] Hi folks [12:04] Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 18.04.3 and every time I do a # apt update, #apt upgrade and reboot; ... My grub defaults to a pure linux grub and ignores that I have a duel booting PC... I hope one day it gets fixed so I don't have to type # os-prober, # upgrade-grub every time. My question is, "Is there a better way?" or am I doing it the right way? [12:05] Edoctoor: yeah, type "ls -l /etc/grub.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" and paste [12:08] I am not having a grub issue... now... because over much frustration, and only getting one boot after the ubuntu install .. because the first thing i do is apt upgrade then the org grub is gone... then repeat install over and over until I discovered os-prober , and upgrade-grub [12:08] but what you said, is good to know [12:09] how do I install termbin or do I have to create an account [12:09] Edoctoor: no, just run the command it uses netcat (nc) [12:09] brb,, maybe I'll learn something, thanks [12:10] um [12:10] you need to paste the results so i can troubleshoot [12:11] :~# "ls -l /etc/grub.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999" [12:11] bash: ls -l /etc/grub.d/* | nc termbin.com 9999: No such file or directory [12:11] Edoctoor: without the quotes [12:11] thats what happened, and the reason I ask what do I need to install [12:11] duh [12:12] What do I have to install so I can use this cifs parameter sec=ntlm in Ubuntu 18.04. For 16.04 this didn't seem an issue worked out of the box. [12:14] EriC^^, Thanks that worked,, happy dance, I have a copy of my grub ... so I can repair it at the boot up command line if it ever happens again [12:14] what else can you teach me [12:15] Edoctoor: what? nothing you said made sense [12:16] You solved my need for os-prober [12:16] happy dance [12:16] why does ubuntu 18.0 have such an old version of libpcap? [12:16] Edoctoor: no i didn't, i only told you to list files of a directory [12:16] libpcap0.8:amd64 [12:17] that solved my issue [12:17] Edoctoor: i was trying to see if os-prober is found in grub.d and it's +x'd that might be why whenever you install a package that has to update grub, you end up with no windows [12:17] Edoctoor: that doesn't make sense at all [12:17] Edoctoor: do you want to solve your issue or happy dance around it? yes/no [12:20] It a very long story, can I tell you in a pm because we are talking about two very different issues. You want to fix my grub which is perfect; however, I want ubuntu to include the command os-prober when it creates a new grub after an # apt upgrade . I am a noob and don't know the right words to explain correctly. I am sorry for that. [12:20] Edoctoor: i get what you meant, that's why i asked to display the files of that dir, they get run when update-grub runs after apt updates [12:21] https://termbin.com/ph59 [12:21] Edoctoor: ok, so os-prober is there and +x'd [12:22] Edoctoor: something else is going on [12:22] EriC^^, But was it there when my very first grub was created, when installing a duel boot. [12:23] I don't know, it was just hell, for me ... but I finally have Ubuntu up and running [12:23] and I know about os-prober... and I guess I don't have to use it any more as you have confirmed that is it called [12:23] thanks [12:24] Edoctoor: well something doesnt make sense anyways [12:24] I am a noob... get it [12:24] LOL [12:24] not that [12:24] ok new question [12:24] i dont think running os-prober before update-grub actually makes a difference for update-grub, could be wrong [12:25] do you have 2 linuxes installed? it could be that one grub is taking over the other or something [12:25] I'll try both ways [12:25] gtg, gl [12:26] hey everyone! [12:27] Friends, any ideas why I get this error when mounting my cifs? https://pastebin.com/43fwcska [12:27] Im looking into the best way to use systems containers with LXD, and I was wondering if anyone has any experience with Ceph storage volumes? I have already built my cluster, and I would like to use it, but Im having issues with LXD reading the config file for some reason. I was wondering also if the best option would be to add my standard user to [12:27] the admin group, or to do something else. Any advice is greatly appreciated. [12:28] If i remove sec=ntlm actually it seems to work but not sure why. And my second question is if I can remove this and the connection is still secure [12:28] I am all good now, I squeezed my win10 to give me 60gb and then installed ubuntu in that and after many reinstalls messing with the bios; like about 40 times, I discovered what I needed to keep both os on the same track. Then my first reboot worked, and I did a # apt upgrade and then win10 wasn't not listed in the grub... so I had to do a lot of head scratching before I figured it out. Anyway, I am all good now. [12:28] fallenour: you might want to try #lxcontainers [12:28] I am just here to learn IRC [12:28] yea just joined! I apprecaite it [12:29] fallenour: also #ubuntu-server [12:51] Hi there. Anyone managed to run ubuntu with wi-fi on Mac hardware? [12:52] fuorviatos: i ran 18.04 for a while on my macbook air without having to do anything particularly odd to get wifi working. [12:53] Cheez: Thanks. I'm struggling to get it working on iMac 27. Probably different driver... [12:59] fuorviatos: wich chipset do you have there? [13:01] fuorviatos: run 'sudo lshw -c network | nc termbin.com 9999' and post the link === fuzzyh is now known as riskymanag3ment [13:05] lotuspsychje: Will check that and get back to you [13:05] fuorviatos: it will show with the advice from ducasse === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [13:15] ducasse: I need a moment since my apple keyboard is not recognized. Typing with a virtual one is a bit of a struggle ;) [13:16] fuorviatos: just post it when you're ready [13:30] ducasse: This is what I get https://paste.pics/7be099362b8e2d7b59dffeedcfd04a0b [13:30] ducasse: Sorry, but had to use my phone and take the picture === Anon is now known as Anon0011 [13:31] fuorviatos: driver looks loaded, wifi doesnt work? [13:33] lotuspsychje: Nope, Ubuntu shows there is no wifi adapter found under settings. [13:33] lotuspsychje: this is live version in case that matters [13:34] fuorviatos: can you install ubuntu with a cable perhaps? [13:35] fuorviatos: or try the broadcom drivers in your install media under /pool [13:35] lotuspsychje: you mean to plug in the ethernet cable? [13:35] fuorviatos: yes [13:36] lotuspsychje: Nope, router is in a separate room. No chance for laying the cable sadly [13:37] lotuspsychje: I can try to play with broadcom but what drivers should i look for? [13:40] fuorviatos: check your liveusb /pool/restricted/b/bcmwl/ [13:50] lotuspsychje: bingo! installed and worked. Thanks a lot! [14:08] hello [14:08] is there a way to see if last modified and create date of a file have been modified? [14:08] simoen3: no easy way [14:09] what can be an hard way? [14:10] inotify [14:12] eipip1e0, ok but if i have no active monitor while i'm modifing timestamps file is there a way? [14:13] poll [14:14] i dont understadn [14:16] simoen3, what do you mean by an "active monitor"? You can run inotify in the background, logging to a file, if you need to. [14:16] in a loop keep checking [14:22] ok thank you. my question was confused, i know. anyway i was asking "if i have an external hard disk and i want to modify "last modified" timestamps of the files of hdd to current date, when i plug it in another pc, is there a way to see if that field was modified?" [14:23] simoen3, not really, no. [14:24] You could format it with btrfs or ZFS and therefore have snapshots of the old state, I guess. [14:28] simoen3, Why do you want to do this? [14:29] cause I want to create a little script that anonimize that fields [14:30] simoen3, ok, and why do you want to do that? [14:32] to create a set of bash tool; mainly for fun and to learn [14:36] tomreyn: thanks, this VM was setup a long time ago and forgot about the encryption. My physical computers use full disk encryption. [14:52] Does anyoen have a guide on configuring lxd with ceph? [14:55] fallenour: as i hinted earlier, this might not be the best place to ask, we mostly support desktop issues here [15:03] ok, got logs for my webcam failing while in use, dmesg and syslog, what do i look for here [15:03] https://gist.github.com/kenperkins/2db063af399e9cc02e390fc01043fd52 [15:10] i don't know the best way to next diagnose the problem [15:11] I think my boot time (from grub menu to login screen) is a bit long. How can find out what's causing it? [15:18] Googled a bit and ran "systemd-analyze critical-chain". If I'm reading this right then run-user-1000.mount alone takes about a minute [15:27] a bit of googling sounds like it might be usb cameras through a usb hub, trying direct to the motherboard and will see [15:35] . [15:38] Anyone familiar with any smart card emulators apt installable for 18.04? === richardpeters is now known as denningsrogue [16:03] . [16:03] how to work from home at canonical [16:04] on rhe microsoft part [16:05] hello fallenour === freedom is now known as gnufr33d0m [16:05] hey! [16:05] hey freedom [16:05] canonical does WFH? [16:05] WFH no context [16:06] cannot decypher [16:06] work from home, ie remote work? [16:06] commander64: that's not something we can help you with, you need to speak to canonical [16:06] Id guess mist of it is remote [16:06] Also, you wouldnt happen to know how I could figure out a better way to debug ceph would you commander64 [16:06] Im having issues with juju deployment of ceph allowing me to use LXD as storage, or even access it apparently. [16:06] ceph? [16:07] ceph clustered storage [16:07] does it have bugs? [16:08] does any software not have bugs? [16:08] first bug put it on bare hardware [16:09] stop with the amazon cloud [16:11] Eh? [16:11] Was commander a bot? [16:11] no, they were one of our repeat problem children. [16:12] mmm I see. [16:12] Honestly its the first ban Ive ever seen in years in this channel. I honestly thought the mod accounts were just place holders XD [16:23] fuorviatos: welcome [16:42] What package do I install for Nvidia 20-series (specifically, RTX 2080 Super) drivers on 18.04.3 LTS? [16:43] !nvidia | leonardus [16:43] leonardus: For nvidia and matrox graphics cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto . For AMD/ATI graphics cards, see « /msg ubottu ati » and « /msg ubottu fglrxmissing » For the latest Nvidia drivers see https://launchpad.net/~graphics-drivers/+archive/ubuntu/ppa [16:43] I have to change "quiet splash" to "nomodeset" every time I boot or else I get a black screen [16:43] leonardus: latest nvidia drivers might be a good idea [16:43] Proprietary ones? [16:43] leonardus: and the HWE kernel might do some magic too [16:44] leonardus: for big cards like gtx and rtx you always need the nvidia drivers to make them work to the max [16:45] So I add that ppa then run `nvidia-graphics-drivers-435`? [16:45] apt install ^ [16:45] leonardus: yes [16:45] Ok [16:48] Unable to locate package nvidia-graphics-drivers-435 [16:48] after adding the ppa and running apt update [16:49] leonardus: what does: ubuntu-drivers list [16:49] nvidia-driver-435, nvidia-driver-430 [16:50] leonardus: sudo apt install nvidia-driver-435 [16:53] is there a trick to parallel to generate 1..N unsorted quickly? [16:53] (or 1..N > sorted_files) [16:55] Fastest traditional is bubble sort [16:55] genii: bubble sort? [16:57] It's a method where you select 2, compare, swap their places if one is in the wrong order [16:57] ..repeat with all the rest until donw [16:57] *done [16:57] genii: I'm not talking about sorting though [16:57] I'm talking about generating [16:57] the fastest multithreaded way to genearate a series of 1..N [16:58] ash_worksi: thats not really the scope of the ubuntu support channel neither [16:58] dabbill: maybe the best way forwardis to reinstall it then. you could also try to add block device encryption below the existing filesystems by booting from a live usb system and using cryptsetup-reencrypt, but (while i haven't done it myself) i assume this is a simple process. [16:58] the only thing I can think of that seems to work is to manually parse sections of the series based on the number of cores and run a background for loop that prints from start to finish [16:58] for each loop [17:05] made this guide real quick https://gist.github.com/leonardus/0fe9e7675c6203daba994ab3094b6665 [17:07] leonardus: what does nvidia-smi show now? [17:08] any ideas on that? [17:08] ash_worksi: try ##linux perhaps? [17:08] lotuspsychje: thanks :) [17:09] When using the terminal: Sometimes I randomly end up in a vi/vim with every command that I'm trying to enter. Is this vi-mode? [17:10] lotuspsychje: https://termbin.com/7ju3 [17:10] https://packages.ubuntu.com/bionic-updates/thunderbird vs. https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2019-29/ [17:10] chaosfisch: vi/vim won't start by itself, only when you choose to start it. but i'm not sure i'm getting your question right. [17:11] what's up with the lateness? [17:11] tomreyn: Now that I know whats going on, I am not worried about it for the time being. I will probably rebuild this box when 20.04 is released. [17:11] it's been almost a month [17:11] dabbill: ok :) [17:12] tomreyn: thanks :) [17:13] tomreyn: I'm working and changing files with vim, saving them, and then e.g. changing directories. every once in a while, I try to enter a command such as "cd /somewhere" and instead I'll be in vi/vim. I'm not sure if I press any key combinations accidentally - but this is quite annoying. [17:13] Pretty much killed on of our test servers as a result of that today [17:13] one* [17:14] leonardus: looking good! [17:15] TomyWork: for security related issues, you can ask in #ubuntu-hardened if you like [17:18] chaosfisch: weird, i never had this happen to me. so you edit files in vim, then exit vim, then change directories in the interactive bash / dash shell by typing "cd /somewhere", and as a result of typing this, vi/vim starts again? [17:19] i don't really see how this would "kill" a (test) server, though. [17:19] pretty much this +/- something which I might not be able to observe - like keybindings, etc. I enter something like: "cd /somewher" use tab auto completion and -> vi/vim is open. I'm usually able to exit this mode after a few tries. [17:20] well, I was about to enter chown root:root -R /somedir -> and because of this behavior it run chown root:root -R //, which in turn changed file permissions of far too many things [17:20] What's worse, there is not even a history entry that I've run this command :S [17:21] hmm maybe ask in #vim, i've never heard of this. [17:22] maybe you have an alias set which triggers it somehow? run: alias [17:22] unlikely, this mostly happens when I'm connected using ssh - into environments which should not have alias set. [17:22] it could also be a broken auto completion [17:23] I would not be surprised [17:23] so you have custom autocompletions there? [17:23] no, I don't [17:24] this problem never occurs when on my machine (using zsh) - but only occurs if connected via ssh and being in bash === SIa_ is now known as SIa [17:25] hmm, most peculiar, but i've never heard of or experienced such. [17:25] additionally, I was surprised that "//" is a valid directory... - though, it issued an additional warning at the start of the command [17:29] the chown command which accidentally triggered with wrong path is the perfect example why we should finally make the move to using containers instead. [17:30] How do I find this path on Ubuntu? https://github.com/lqt5/lqt#3-configure-qt5 [17:30] I've installed qtbase5-dev [17:34] leonardus: are you sure you need to set it at all? [17:35] that's just what the instructions say [17:35] I can try it without though [17:37] sarnold: yeah it errors https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/riH7aFnU/ [17:39] tomreyn: was able to pretty much confirm that I was using "vi-mode" (thanks to help in #vim). Pressing ESC enters command mode, then pressing "v" opens vim. This makes a lot of sense because I'm quite frequently navigating to /var/logs /var/opt. [17:40] chaosfisch: so you're now saying you did not actually leave vim before navigating directories? [17:40] s/leave/quit/ [17:40] tomreyn: vim is not open - but pressing "ESC" enters command mode - apparently (while being in bash...) [17:41] not on mine [17:41] pressing escape in bash does not magically spawn vim [17:42] set -o vi, then it spawns vim - afaik [17:42] chaosfisch: probably set -o emacs will help [17:44] oh i see, i wasn't familiar with set -o vi [17:44] neither was I before [17:44] it's bloody annoying :) [17:44] it's an easy way to drive bash users insane [17:45] sarnold: It resulted in running "chown root:root -R //" today..... [17:45] chaosfisch: oh fun. :( [17:45] chaosfisch: why do you have it set, though? it's non default [17:45] I noticed it early enough, but well, the only sane way is to wipe the system and reinstall. [17:45] tomreyn: seems to be default in some systems that I'm working with [17:46] you probably have some colleagues who fancy it. [17:46] if someone could tell me why the path "//" is the same as "/" - this would be helpful. [17:47] something about making it compatible with older UNIX style systems [17:47] it means nothing now [17:47] exactly the same [17:47] chaosfisch: posix sets // aside as a naming method for eg smb or cifs style use [17:47] you can also make it ///// [17:47] so linux also kept the // as / [17:48] so - "n times" / is still / [17:48] wow [17:48] well, sort of [17:48] /// is the same as / [17:48] // is // [17:48] so is /../, incidentally [17:48] though it also means / most of the time [17:48] it does nothing special [17:48] it's also bloody annoying to try to find documentatino about this [17:50] thanks to all - and have a nice weekend [17:51] you, too [18:19] Anyone have a good suggestion for a dotfile manager and maybe a good tutorial on how to set it up? [18:23] Ubuntu 18.04.3 gnome xorg How to change panel color from black to white left or right click on panel reveals nothing [18:24] does ubuntu 19.04 just automatically connect to internet with a usb to ethernet cable? [18:24] pi0: depends on the usb to ethernet cable [18:24] shoot [18:24] you mean adapter? [18:25] if it's a working network card and it is set up for dhcp it should. [18:25] Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8153 Gigabit Ethernet Adapter [18:25] (and there is ia dhcp server that is) [18:25] lsusb [18:25] pi0: what does ifconfig show? [18:26] i do not even show the eth0 adapter [18:26] (what is the command if net-tools is not installed? anyone?) [18:26] for wired shown [18:26] pi0: ifconfig -a? [18:27] ip addr [18:27] virbr0-nic? [18:27] sarnold: whank you [18:27] hahaha [18:27] Thank you ;) [18:27] rofl [18:27] sorry ;) [18:28] hmm most likely it is not recognized? [18:29] pi0: see if there is any change in ifconfig with the adapter conneted or not [18:30] i see the adapter going away once i plug in the ethernet cable [18:33] be right back getting another ethernet cable [18:37] Ubuntu 18.04.3 gnome xorg How to change panel color from black to white left or right click on panel reveals nothing [18:40] Hey, I somehow screwed up my gnome/gdm/lightdm/wayland/whatever session and now I can't log in on my main user, I'm currently logged in as another user. Is there away of just removing all the relevant configuration/session files? [18:44] NickZ, Try to move ~/.config/ folder and maybe other files like ~/.xsession* ~/.Xauthority, to some temp folder like ~/backup_config/ [18:44] And try to log back. [18:44] ok [18:44] Nick the home of your user ofc. [18:46] How can I easy move images from iphone to my computer(gnome/unity)? I can copy with nautilus, but not delete. [18:47]