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ubptgbotNeb Radojkovic was added by: Neb Radojkovic04:17
ubptgbot<Neb Radojkovic> Not sure how this works. I have a question: Can you help me install Ubuntu on an Insignia NS-P11W7100 tablet?04:18
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @Neb Radojkovic [Not sure how this works. I have a question: Can you help me install Ubuntu on an …], This group is mostly geared towards ubuntu touch for a phone, but we can try, what is your issue?04:32
ubptgbot<Neb Radojkovic> Ha. My issue is that I have no luck even getting Insignia to see the flash drive, let alone to start. I've read many articles and they are talking about a 32 bit Efi and a Grub2 etc - but with my knowledge I am lost.04:34
ubptgbot<Shakendo> Ok, how did you make the drive? Rufus?04:35
ubptgbot<Neb Radojkovic> Yes.04:35
ubptgbot<Neb Radojkovic> I also tried native on Linux mint.04:35
ubptgbot<Shakendo> Ok, is your tablet running win 10 atm?04:35
ubptgbot<Neb Radojkovic> yes it is...but not now as i am in a loop at Administrator login that doesn't let me login...04:36
ubptgbot<Shakendo> Ok, when you go to restart it in win 10, hold down shift before you click restart and then you can go to advanced, and there should be something there to let you in to the UEFI/BIOS settings to tell it to boot from your flash disc04:38
ubptgbot<Neb Radojkovic> I can get to bios no problem. It is there that i can't even see the drive with linux. I tried 3 different drives just in case and it is the same problem. I get into bios by Esc at restart...04:40
ubptgbot<Shakendo> Ok, does your bios have a legacy option?04:40
ubptgbot<Neb Radojkovic> no04:40
ubptgbot<Neb Radojkovic> I disabled the security too and nothing04:42
ubptgbot<Shakendo> Hmm ... i dont know enough about your system, best advice I can offer is keep trying different drives, maybe even a USB dvd-rom, or seek out help here … Ubuntu … Ubuntu News … https://t.me/ubuntu04:43
ubptgbot<Neb Radojkovic> Thanks for trying! Cheers!04:43
ubptgbot<Shakendo> No worries and good luck04:43
ubptgbot<Neb Radojkovic> Thanks.04:44
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ubptgbot<Mokmeister> @ricmm spam!07:02
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I've seen that spam in all my groups 😂07:04
ubptgbot<Mokmeister> Indeed, seems to be doing the rounds alright.07:04
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> Still a update here edge version 164. Now the launcher don't automaticly hide when open a app. Must touch the screen and then the launcher going hide.07:44
ubptgbot<Tomáš A Soušek> Will UBports port to Xiomi phones?07:47
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @Waldbursche [Still a update here edge version 164. Now the launcher don't automaticly hide wh …], It seems, this is by coreapps. When starting a webapp the launcher going hide.07:59
ubptgbot<Aury88> Sorry for the partial ot. Whoand where should I contact to make a bug report about ubports forum?08:14
ubptgbot<Aury88> [Edit] Sorry for the partial ot. Who  should I contact and where to make a bug report about ubports forum?08:15
ubptgbotLucia was added by: Lucia09:07
ubptgbot<Lucia> Good morning everyone! I have got a Viliv X70 EX touch screen with OS windows XP Home  Edition.  … I'd like to use in dualboot XP and UBports but... Is it possible to install it on Viliv? Thanks a lot09:38
ubptgbot<hacker12455> I don't think there is a x86 build of Ubuntu Touch.09:45
ubptgbot<Tomáš A Soušek> It is listed here: https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/09:56
ubptgbot<Tomáš A Soušek> https://unity8.io/09:56
ubptgbot<MAT> Hello what is the best ubports device to best battery life?10:36
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> BQ E5 and M10 more then 24 hours, then OPO with 1 day max. The N5 battery life is the shortest here. By "normaly" usecase...11:01
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ubptgbotFabian L was added by: Fabian L11:24
ubptgbot<David> My music app vanished after swapping to RC channel and then swapping back to stable. There are no local music players in the app store. Any suggestions?11:24
ubptgbot<Fabian L> @David [My music app vanished after swapping to RC channel and then swapping back to sta …], In "update settings" there is a button "reinstall all apps". Have you tried that?11:26
ubptgbot<David> Hi Fabian. Reinstalled all paps and restarted. No Joy. I would reflash, but the installer will no longer detect my device11:33
ubptgbot<Fabian L> what devices do you have?11:33
ubptgbot<David> Oneplus one. First installed UT yesterday11:34
ubptgbot<Fabian L> I'm new to ubport myself. But I don't see a reason why your device would not be recognized anymore, Can you boot it into bootloader?11:36
ubptgbot<David> I can reboot to fastboot (power and vol up) but the installer still won't pick it up :(11:37
ubptgbot<Fabian L> power and vol up should boot into recovery, right?11:38
ubptgbot<Fabian L> i mean down, sorry11:39
ubptgbot<David> will try now...11:39
ubptgbot<David> Nice one Fabian. Am in recovery, and the installer has detected it. Am reinstalling now. Thanks a lot.11:43
ubptgbot<Fabian L> nice :)11:44
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ubptgbotKiet was added by: Kiet11:58
ubptgbotThùy Trang Cao was added by: Thùy Trang Cao12:13
ubptgbotNaima Macdonald was added by: Naima Macdonald12:22
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> Welcome to all the new people!  Be sure to check out this page if you have not already: … https://ubports.com/meet-the-community12:24
ubptgbot<Naima Macdonald> @sexdatesmeetbot12:29
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ubptgbot<hacker12455> @wayneoutthere hey can you remove that? ^12:30
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Thanks12:30
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> i have to stop welcoming people! ha12:30
ubptgbot<Tomáš A Soušek> I know this is not UBports related. But does Sailfish OS have desktop mode? (something like Ububtu's desktop mode)12:38
ubptgbot<dohbee> No, I don't think so12:38
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @Tomáš A Soušek [I know this is not UBports related. But does Sailfish OS have desktop mode? (som …], No12:39
ubptgbot<Tomáš A Soušek> Ok12:39
ubptgbot<Tomáš A Soušek> Ty12:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Tomáš A Soušek [Will UBports port to Xiomi phones?], There are people working on ports to some of them, but probably core devs won't12:39
ubptgbot<Tomáš A Soušek> Ok12:41
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @Waldbursche [It seems, this is by coreapps. When starting a webapp the launcher going hide.], Mmmh... 2 reboots fix the problem.12:42
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ubptgbotAbu Ziyad was added by: Abu Ziyad13:05
ubptgbot<Abu Ziyad> Hello guys, I want to install ubutu touch, but im worrying because my device is not there on the list of supported device, im using Huawei cam-L2113:07
ubptgbot<Fabian L> @Abu Ziyad [Hello guys, I want to install ubutu touch, but im worrying because my device is …], It will not work then, most likely13:07
ubptgbot<pjk2012> @Aury88 [Sorry for the partial ot. Who  should I contact and where to make a bug report a …], Maybe here? https://ubports.com/contact-us13:08
ubptgbot<Abu Ziyad> @Fabian L [It will not work then, most likely], Thank you13:08
ubptgbot<Fabian L> @Abu Ziyad [Thank you], Here is a list of devices people are working on: https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/labels/Ports13:11
ubptgbotoloz_res was added by: oloz_res13:34
ubptgbot<MAT> @Waldbursche [BQ E5 and M10 more then 24 hours, then OPO with 1 day max. The N5 battery life i …], Thanks but BQ E5 doesn’t easy to find14:16
ubptgbot<b3pio> Is there an alternative app store for UT like storeman for SailfishOS? Or only just the preinstalled one on the device14:21
ubptgbot<mimecar> @b3pio [Is there an alternative app store for UT like storeman for SailfishOS? Or only j …], only the OpenStore14:25
hallynPPAs?14:27
ubptgbot<b3pio> @mimecar [only the OpenStore], Ok thanks14:27
ubptgbot<mimecar> @hallyn [PPAs?], PPAs olnly works with libertine14:28
ubptgbot<mimecar> And desktop applications are not ready to work well on a phone.14:28
hallynSo if I want to say "hey guys try out this new keyboard I wrote" what's the best support way to do that?14:30
ubptgbot<mimecar> then, you should upload the app to open store14:30
ubptgbot<Danfro> @hallyn [So if I want to say "hey guys try out this new keyboard I wrote" what's the best …], If it really is about testing things you can post a "test request" in the QA group: https://t.me/ubports_qa_team14:32
ubptgbot<Danfro> I don't think a keyboard is a separate app that can be published in the OpenStore.14:32
hallynNot about qa testing, just about "see what you think of it".  (realistic example - hoping to have a swype enalbed kbd at some point when i find time)14:37
ubptgbot<Danfro> @hallyn [Not about qa testing, just about "see what you think of it".  (realistic example …], Thats fine. This group is not only for QA but for testing too.14:39
ubptgbot<Danfro> Swype keyboard might be just what UT needs to convince my wife of it. That would be really great!14:40
ubptgbot<Danfro> I think that room is available on the matrix side too.14:42
hallynDanfro: but i think the q is - what's the best way to share the actual packages.  In ubuntu-land, you share a ppa.  In sailfish land, you push to the alt store like a ppa.  IIUC, for ubports currently we point to the wget-able binary package?14:49
hallynwhich might make things more maintainable long term (things don't languish in ppas), but might cut down on testing velocity.14:50
hallyn<shrug>14:50
ubptgbot<Danfro> @hallyn [Danfro: but i think the q is - what's the best way to share the actual packages. …], People make a PR to the keyboard component. Then with `sudo ubports-qa install PR-xyz` that can be installed. But I never did that myself. Thats just what I have seen in that group.15:00
ubptgbot<Danfro> Best ask around in  that group. There are people there who know, I am just guessing. 😊15:01
ubptgbot<Danfro> You can find that group in the ubports community in i.e. Riot.15:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> @hallyn [Danfro: but i think the q is - what's the best way to share the actual packages. …], Well, if you make a PR on github, then CI will build it, and people can test it with the `ubports-qa` tool to install it15:04
ubptgbot<dohbee> the thing is, the keyboard itself is not "replaceable" as such, so you can't just upload a new package somewhere. and what you're talking about is testing system components, not alternate app stores with random click packges15:05
ubptgbot<Danfro> @dohbee [Well, if you make a PR on github, then CI will build it, and people can test it …], Thanks for helping me out here. That really is an area I don't know a lot of. 😊15:06
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @javacookies - thank you for the updates of Palitan and Talaan!  Is there any chance I can interest you in adding todotxt.org support to Talaan so todo lists can be synced across platforms?15:25
ubptgbot<Javacookies> yeah, they were minor updates that I needed to do because there were translation PR pending for months 😅15:28
ubptgbot<Javacookies> todotxt is on my todo list, no pun intended 😂15:28
ubptgbot<Javacookies> but what I really plan to do is to rewrite Talaan with qqc2 and add todotxt but so far I have no time, maybe after I finish Witcher 3 😂15:29
ubptgbotHồ Kiên was added by: Hồ Kiên15:33
ubptgbot<Aury88> @pjk2012 [Maybe here? https://ubports.com/contact-us], Thx16:07
ubptgbot<pjk2012> You're welcome16:11
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Javacookies [todotxt is on my todo list, no pun intended 😂], thanks!16:25
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Today marks one full year that Ubuntu Touch has been the OS for my daily driver mobile devices (splitting time between OnePlus One and Meizu Pro 5).  I have been able to say completely goodbye to Android, as well as do some major de-Google-ification for the rest of my digital ecosystem, without having to turn to the Apple demon, thanks16:30
ubptgbot to UT. Huge thanks to the UBpprts team and community for continually improving an already cool thing.16:30
ubptgbot<Fabian L> what apps do you use?16:45
ubptgbot<Fabian L> I just installed it yesterday on my nexus 4. And there are several bugs. While it's promising I don't really trust it yet16:45
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @TotalSonic [Today marks one full year that Ubuntu Touch has been the OS for my daily driver …], For me it's two years and half now16:57
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @Fabian L [I just installed it yesterday on my nexus 4. And there are several bugs. While i …], Trust what?16:57
ubptgbot<Fabian L> that it will work for me on the go, or in emergency cases16:57
ubptgbot<pjk2012> @Fabian L [that it will work for me on the go, or in emergency cases], Just like buying a used car, don't take it on a long trip until you've tested it around town for a good amount ot time.17:00
ubptgbot<Fabian L> oh i will ;) just stating my current feeling :)17:00
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Oh. What kind of bugs are you experiencing ?17:00
ubptgbot<Fabian L> I wasn't able to quit applications several times as the gestures didn't work anymore, I think once in the contacts app and once in the notes app17:01
ubptgbot<Fabian L> upon first boot there was no sound17:02
ubptgbot<Fabian L> auto rotation did not work until I rebootet the device several times17:02
ubptgbot<pjk2012> @Fabian L [I just installed it yesterday on my nexus 4. And there are several bugs. While i …], I've got some bugs on my Nexus 5 too. Core devices that were stable under Canonical received problems with the OS upgrades. I think Nexus 5 lost WiFi Display on the upgrade to 16.04 if I recall correctly. I'm hoping for a fully working device w17:08
ubptgbothen the PinePhone is released next year.17:08
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fabian L [what apps do you use?], all the core ones, Dekko 2, TELEports, Pure Maps, uNav, Here Maps, Sailbook, Standard Notes UT, InstantPho, uAdBlock, Cloud Music, Flas, UBsync, OwnCube, Sturm Reader, YouTube, for starters.17:08
ubptgbot<Fabian L> @TotalSonic [all the core ones, Dekko 2, TELEports, Pure Maps, uNav, Here Maps, Sailbook, Sta …], Thanks I will check them out :)17:09
ubptgbot<Fabian L> @pjk2012 [I've got some bugs on my Nexus 5 too. Core devices that were stable under Canoni …], I ordered the Fairphone and hope someone will port ubuntu on it17:10
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fabian L [I just installed it yesterday on my nexus 4. And there are several bugs. While i …], Nexus 4 might be a little under powered to run UT smoothly at all times.  I would suggest OnePlus One, Nexus 5, or Meizu Pro 5 as upgrades at this point - although each of those has its flaws as well.17:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> nexus 4 should run it just fine. it's not underpowered really17:11
ubptgbot<Fabian L> @TotalSonic [Nexus 4 might be a little under powered to run UT smoothly at all times.  I woul …], Performance wise I'm ok so far though. Even tried convergence via cable and it worked surprisingly well17:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> but it is 7 year old phone17:11
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fabian L [I ordered the Fairphone and hope someone will port ubuntu on it], Fairphone 3 is going to be a very difficult port.  I think it is better to order a PinePhone or Librem 5 as far as near future UT compatible devices17:12
ubptgbot<Fabian L> @TotalSonic [Fairphone 3 is going to be a very difficult port.  I think it is better to order …], Any info in prices for PinePhone? Librem will be too expensive for me, considering import taxes to Germany17:17
ubptgbot<pjk2012> @Fabian L [Any info in prices for PinePhone? Librem will be too expensive for me, consideri …], I think $15017:17
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fabian L [Any info in prices for PinePhone? Librem will be too expensive for me, consideri …], $150 US dollars17:17
ubptgbot<Fabian L> @pjk2012 [I think $150], Ok that would be insane17:17
ubptgbot<surrounder> So probably make it EUR 150, but that's still a steal17:18
ubptgbot<surrounder> really wanna get my hands on one17:18
ubptgbot<Fabian L> as long as it is under 250 i'm ok with the price. I like the ethics of the Fairphone 3, so I'll spend the extra on that. They promised 5 years of support as well17:19
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @Fabian L [Any info in prices for PinePhone? Librem will be too expensive for me, consideri …], To Germany? I think +taxes and +duties nearly 180 - 200€ maybe...17:19
ubptgbot<Fabian L> @Waldbursche [To Germany? I think +taxes and +duties nearly 180 - 200€ maybe...], Yeah, for Librem 5 it is17:20
ubptgbot<Fabian L> It's 18% tax plus some fees17:20
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @Fabian L [Yeah, for Librem 5 it is], What? No...its for PinePhone...17:21
ubptgbot<Fabian L> oh, misread... yeah 180-200 will be finde for me :)17:21
ubptgbot<Fabian L> its around 180$ additionally for the Librem on import, that's why I was confused :D17:21
ubptgbot<Fabian L> [Edit] oh, misread... yeah 180-200 will be fine for me :)17:22
ubptgbotRadhika was added by: Radhika18:13
ubptgbotAditya Rajpoot was added by: Aditya Rajpoot18:34
ubptgbot<Aditya Rajpoot> When will be more devices added to the support18:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> when someone ports them18:42
ubptgbot<b3pio> Is there a way for CalDAV and CardDAV sync? (nextcloud)18:50
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @b3pio [Is there a way for CalDAV and CardDAV sync? (nextcloud)], for CalDAV, add your NextCloud account in the `Accounts` settings and then in the Calendar app, click the Calendars icon (to the left of the Settings icon) in the upper right hand corner, and then click `Add online Calendar` and choose the calendars you wish to sync from18:55
ubptgbot your NextCloud account18:55
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @b3pio [Is there a way for CalDAV and CardDAV sync? (nextcloud)], [Edit] for CalDAV, add your NextCloud account in the `Accounts` settings (found in System Settings) and then in the Calendar app, click the Calendars icon (to the left of the Settings icon) in the upper right hand corner, and then click `Add online Calendar` and choose t18:56
ubptgbothe calendars you wish to sync from your NextCloud account18:56
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @akraj7996 [When will be more devices added to the support], This is just estimates / guesses from someone that is not part of the UBports teams - but I'd say Pine64 PinePhone around December of this year, Purism Librem 5 around March 2020, PineTab around April 2020, Sony Xperia X around February 2020, and likely one or two other Andro18:59
ubptgbotid devices around April 2020.18:59
ubptgbot<akraj7996> To test Ubuntu touch I need to buy such those listed devices they are to old to find19:00
ubptgbot<b3pio> @TotalSonic [for CalDAV, add your NextCloud account in the Accounts settings (found in System …], Thank you, i will try this. Any idea for contacts as i dont have goolag account to sync.19:03
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @TotalSonic [This is just estimates / guesses from someone that is not part of the UBports te …], Xperia x this month ? 😼19:05
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @b3pio [Thank you, i will try this. Any idea for contacts as i dont have goolag account …], Unfortunately that is an open issue that is waiting to be fixed for Contacts.  Currently what I do is export all my contacts to a vcf file, load that to my UT device, and then import that to my Contacts by clicking on the vcf file in File Manage19:06
ubptgbotr, and then choose the Contacts app from the list of apps that pops up.  I do regular backups of all my Contacts to a vcf file that I keep on my NextCloud account - and I keep this synced via the UBsync app that is available in the Open Store.19:06
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @malditobastardo [Xperia x this month ? 😼], well - if "support" means as a device option in the UBports installer app, and that at least nominally working on getting the hardware all properly functioning is something the UBports team also takes on, I am not sure whether that timing makes sense given how much is already on the plate.19:12
ubptgbotBut the way Alfred and Jan were talking during the last Q&A it certainly seems like maybe a small possibiility19:12
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> @TotalSonic [well - if "support" means as a device option in the UBports installer app, and t …], Yeah. Fingers crossed.19:14
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> I understood that this should be plausible to happen very soon19:14
hallyndohbee - yeah, i was intending to ask about both (simple replaceable apps / alternate app stores, and replacing core components).  I can see how that would be seen as differnet things, though in my simple old-school mind they are the same :)19:15
hallyntest a different kerneL?  use my ppaa.  Run my test version of qemu with new whatzit spuport?  use my ppa.19:16
hallynthanks for the pointer to ubports-qa :)19:17
ubptgbotTandra Radcliff was added by: Tandra Radcliff19:45
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ubptgbotMax Geßner was added by: Max Geßner20:37
ubptgbot<b3pio> @TotalSonic [Unfortunately that is an open issue that is waiting to be fixed for Contacts.  C …], OK thanks so much for your help21:09
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @b3pio [OK thanks so much for your help], you're very welcome - best of luck with getting everything running smoothly21:09
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