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lotuspsychjegood morning to all01:59
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lotuspsychjenoticed a few bugs on -31 passby in -announce05:24
lotuspsychjebug #184685705:24
ubot5bug 1846857 in linux (Ubuntu) "After upgrading to kernel 5.0.0-31-generic:amd64, click with one finger and drag with the other doesn't work on the touchpad." [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184685705:24
OerHeksi had some troubles getting bt headphone back to work, 5.0.0-3105:27
lotuspsychjeto keep an eye on05:28
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OerHeksConfucius: if you have no backup of your important data, it is not important06:26
tomreynthat's confusing!06:28
OerHeksFacebook: what do you mean with your data?06:29
tomreynthey should definitely send clarification requests by e-mail when user data doesn't match the profiling algorithms06:30
tomreynhelp us better understand you and gain a chance to win one of these new apple ipods!06:31
OerHeksyeah, breaking iboot06:33
tomreyni've heard so many stories of people who ran into data loss scenarios during "I was at final stages of writing my thesis". maybe that's why i never did it.06:35
* lotuspsychje likes data loss and recover it with photorec :p06:35
* tomreyn likes backups06:36
lotuspsychjeyou get even more data back then you needed06:36
tomreyni bet that's how facebook does it, too, then06:37
lotuspsychjei wonder how many worms are crawling on FB data centers06:38
lotuspsychjedouble windows open06:38
tomreynbook worms?06:38
lotuspsychjefacebookworm.com :p06:39
lotuspsychjeyou found a new biz tomreyn06:39
tomreynthis sounds like an SEO company06:39
lotuspsychje!info linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 bionic08:37
ubot5linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 (source: linux-meta-hwe): Generic Linux kernel image. In component main, is optional. Version (bionic), package size 2 kB, installed size 12 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; armhf; arm64; ppc64el; s390x)08:37
tomreynah i missed this08:39
lotuspsychjesaw it passby on my system tomreyn, but im still on 5.308:40
lotuspsychjehence the flicker bug :p08:40
tomreynyou have flicker bugs on 5.3 but not on 5.0?08:41
lotuspsychjethe other way around08:41
lotuspsychje5.0 flickers08:41
tomreynyes that's what i thought how it was08:41
lotuspsychjei still got your workaround, but im gonna wait till the 5.0 series passby08:42
lotuspsychjesee what 19.10 release brings us08:42
tomreynmaybe you meant s/hence/due to/08:42
lotuspsychjetomreyn: with this laptop, im going on early 20.04 devel too so08:42
tomreynyou seem to enjoy breakage ;)08:43
lotuspsychjemy nuc will stay business LTS :p08:43
lotuspsychjelaptop can taste a lil pre-lts :p08:44
tomreynthe little bit that half a year is.08:44
lotuspsychjei like helping the lts releases08:45
tomreynbut if 19.10 is stable enough and there's no major changes towards 20.04 planned i guess it can be fine08:45
tomreyni like the way you're thinking there08:46
lotuspsychjealso i like the progress till final08:47
ducassegood morning11:00
BluesKajHi folks11:31
ubot5It's out! Announcement at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2019-April/000243.html - Release Notes: https://ubottu.com/y/Dingo11:46
lotuspsychje!isitoutyet is <reply> Not yet!11:47
jeremy31We sell no wine before its time11:47
* lotuspsychje drinks LTS wine11:48
tomreynhmm, 18.04, that's a good year and month11:55
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TJ-I despair of users not reporting vital info when complaining things are broken!16:58
tomreynyes, that doesn't make things easier ;)17:05
TJ-tomreyn: sometimes I also think we're being wound up17:19
tomreynTJ-: certainly. but i try not too hard to tell those situations apart.17:24
tomreynTJ-: unrelated to this, there was someone in #ubuntu a few days ago who had trouble with some not so old toshiba laptop, where the internal keyboard and touchpad would not work at all, and the system also froze during early boot unless we worked around with some boot parameters17:26
tomreynthis was about the worst user experience i've seen lately.17:26
tomreynwe didn't really get it fixed. they said they tried several ubuntu releases, none of them worked with the internal keyboard. but windows works out of the box.17:27
tomreyni didn't really know how to diagnose thois, though.17:27
TJ-tomreyn: was that the user trying all sorts of i8042. options?17:27
tomreynyes, but not only17:27
tomreyni'm trying to find something on the logs, but it's difficult...17:28
tomreyn* irc logs17:28
TJ-I think I still have the links from when I was in-channel17:28
tomreynhe posted a good summary at some point when you weren't around, though17:28
TJ-Gusj ?17:29
tomreynhmm, food first, i'll ping you about it later if i may and can find it on my logs17:29
tomreynhmm yes i think so17:29
TJ-Where I got to with Gusj was suspecting the fnfxd package/service and suggested its service be masked17:31
TJ-yes, that's the one17:32
tomreynhmm i don't remember anything about this 'fnfxd' service, other than it was mentioned at some point, yes. bbl.17:33
TJ-here's my log http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bkQfPXWfJ6/17:33
tomreynTJ-: is this UTC?17:35
tomreyn(i'm back actually)17:35
TJ-not sure; it's weechat, let me see what time it thinks it is now :)17:36
TJ-UTC+1 a.k.a. BST17:37
tomreyni can check how it corresponds to mine, should have the same logged17:37
tomreynah thanks17:37
tomreynso Gusj was seeking support on 3 occasions17:38
tomreynyour chat is from the first occasion17:40
TJ-It's quite an old system so if there are generic model problems we'd likely have heard of, or found, them by now "DMI: TOSHIBA Satellite C55-A/Portable PC, BIOS 1.40 04/28/2014"17:40
tomreynoh right that's actually older than i had remembered17:41
tomreynso you think it's more likely a hardware issue? but why would it then work on windows, assuming this statement was true.17:42
TJ-Well there are a LOT of PCI BAR allocation failures for the 00:1c.* devices, which as far as I recall is a bridge chip, and the ACPI errors with "LPCB" refer to the 'south-bridge' I/O controller's Low Pin Count Bus - commonly used to connected the serial UARTs for keyboard etc.17:44
TJ-I did suggest they try acpi_osi workaround but don't know if they did. I gave the URL17:44
TJ-kernel log showing the PC BAR issues around line 408 at http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5y2bBgCyqX/17:45
TJ-I wouldn't be surprised to find a BIOS/firmware option has changed to cause this17:46
tomreynthat's how i understood the LPCB, too. i think Gusj did try acpi_osi, yes.17:48
tomreynright, a bad BIOS configuration was something i was wondering about, too17:48
tomreynTJ-: i finally got my log done ;) if you're still interested (don't bother if not): http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Xbp2MNR3R7/17:58
tomreyni grep'ed for Gusj|tomreyn  then removed all irrelevant lines, so chats between Gusj and me should be complete, but those between Gusj and others may not be.17:59
tomreyntime zone is CEST (UTC+2)18:00
TJ-tomreyn: this thread reports the same problem across multiple Satellite models inc. C55 over several years affecting Windows too, and gives a method for what sounds like a power-off 10-second NVRAM clear procedure:  https://forums.tomsguide.com/threads/toshiba-satellite-keyboard-and-touchpad-dont-work.257867/18:10
tomreynTJ-: nice find! i'll pass it on to Gusj in case they'll be around again18:11
tomreyni left a message with Gusj via memoserv. Most people miss those, but maybe it'll work this time.18:26
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