=== gry_ is now known as gry === ben_r_ is now known as ben_r === Guest86236 is now known as catalase [01:31] hi guys [01:32] can someone tell me why when i do sudo systemctl start bluetooth on my laptop it still shows that bluetooth is OFF is System Settings [01:42] aleksandrdvorkin: I don't really know, but I can guess: [01:43] the thing you are turning on is what looks for on/off signals [01:48] aleksandrdvorkin: are you chatting from the system right now? === conjo is now known as idknow [01:53] hi all im trying to import an ova file into virtualbox on ubuntu and i keep getting this error "Result Code: NS_ERROR_INVALID_ARG (0x80070057) , how would i import the file from terminal with virtualbox so i can get more details on the errors as a google search isnt showing much for my situation its a car manual from emanualeonline === zbenjamin is now known as Guest43278 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:06] idknow, doc for the cli import is at https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/UserManual.html#vboxmanage-import [02:08] idknow: what do you mean by "import" ? [02:18] So, question. What's a good html editor for someone who is completely new to web development? [02:18] (For ubuntu, obviously) [02:20] OneM_Industries: you can use vim, gedit, or Visual Studio Code [02:20] Ok. [02:20] CarlFK, i have a vm in a .ova file and i want to mount/run it but it crashes when i try from gui or terminal (import appliance) [02:20] Result Code: [02:20] NS_ERROR_INVALID_ARG (0x80070057) [02:23] OneM_Industries: do you want to get good at html, or kinda fake it and do the easy stuff? [02:23] how can i get more log info about this vbox error code what would i type into terminal [02:23] CarlFK: Fake it, basically. [02:23] idknow: there should be a VBox.log [02:24] CarlFK: This is the kind of thing I'm looking to set up: http://people.physics.anu.edu.au/~amh110/Technical_pages/hyde_quick_tech_index.htm [02:24] Nothing fancy, nothing high-end. [02:25] OneM_Industries: Hmm, it's been a while. I remember liking BlueFish. but here's a rundown ... apparently there are 10 choices? https://www.lifewire.com/free-html-editors-for-linux-and-unix-3468154 [02:26] Ok. [02:26] Thank you! :) [02:26] OneM_Industries: and for giggles: http://txti.es/ [02:26] OneM_Industries: vi / vim has worked nice for me for html editing [02:28] tatertotz: Ok, good to know. [02:38] I'm at a loss for something to do right now lol [02:39] I can't think of any more customization to do to this laptop [02:48] !ot [02:48] #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! === gry_ is now known as gry [03:53] hello people, I'm trying to make Ubuntu as my main OS and GPU passtrough W10. The W10 is on a NVME SSD can I boot it raw, without modification? [04:00] !wsl | hypofely [04:00] hypofely: Windows 10 has a feature called Windows Subsystem for Linux, which allows it to run Ubuntu (and other Linux distro) userspace programs without porting/recompliation. For discussion and support, see #ubuntu-on-windows or ##windows. For installation instructions, see https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/commandline/wsl/install_guide [04:01] yeah, I'm well aware of wsl [04:03] hypofely: https://heiko-sieger.info/running-windows-10-on-linux-using-kvm-with-vga-passthrough/ [04:04] warnings: the process is difficult, depends on hardware support and can easily damage your install [04:04] make a system image with clonezilla or dd before trying [04:05] i dont think you can take an existing install. if im being honest, just deal with the 10 seconds it takes to dual boot [04:07] its really not worth the effort. if you put windows in grub and have both os installed on fast ssds, its not too much time/effort to dual boot [04:07] I think virtual box can boot from a drive but that's don't have gpu passthrough [04:08] yeah well I don't really like restarting [04:08] closing down VS projects [04:08] opening up [04:08] you can't just use a virtual machine and pass gpu through [04:09] yes u can [04:10] or well you can, but not with vmware or vitualbox and maintain near-native performance [04:10] if you don't care about performance, sure [04:11] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EozeSDeV3Vo [04:11] apperantly the performance loss is neglegable [04:13] as i said you can use methods like the one i linked above, but it isn't anywhere near as simple as setting up a virtualbox vm is. and is heavily dependant on hardware support. [04:14] ubuntu isnt a real linux [04:15] it has proprietary bullshit integrated into it [04:15] so the corporations can start raping you [04:15] ok [04:15] !fud | meme-dude [04:15] meme-dude: Please do not fall prey to, or spread FUD (fear, uncertainty, and doubt) - it is not welcome here! Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt [04:16] I thought all these linux flavors just a GUI and software package on top of linux kernel? [04:16] corporations are evil [04:16] hypofely: proprietary driver shit is included in the download of debian [04:16] meme-dude, now stop it and keep this channel free for ubuntu support, thanks. [04:16] meme-dude: not really on-topic for a support channel, take it elsewhere [04:16] which allows corporate entities to rape your computer [04:16] OerHeks: you aint an op. kiss my backside [04:16] dax, sorry [04:16] ok, but i also like my operating system to actually suport my hardware [04:16] taking it elsewhere [04:17] ayew: does debian not support it? [04:17] > proprietary driver shit is included in the download of debian [04:17] i meant ubuntu lol [04:17] but seriously [04:18] dude... [04:18] dax has ordered me to take it elsewhere so this conversation is elsewhere. PM me if you wish to argue about driver tarballs [04:18] this is not productive use of your or anyone here's time. [04:18] dax, which one are you supposed to be? [04:18] well [04:18] I'm interested [04:18] there are 8 right? [04:18] if you want to be a FSF fanatic, theres plenty of other distros to use [04:18] no one is forced to use ubuntu [04:19] go setup LFS. [04:19] are you Lela, Tobin, Emony, Audrid, Torias, Joran, Curzon, Jadzia or Ezri? [04:19] make up your mind dax [04:20] ayew: not worth engaging in this discussion [04:20] although stuff like HDCP in screeping into the kernel, so you can only avoid so much [05:03] apt upgrade today on 19.04 machine used as a media center. Anyone familiar with what package updated, causing sound to cutout after 5-10 minutes [05:03] yelof: i'm not, but is there anything in your system logs about it? [05:03] killall pulseaudio, or pulseaudio -k will resolve temporarily, butonly foranother 5-10 minutes [05:04] update log: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/nqmS2TK28C/ [05:04] I'm just not familir enough t guess which package migh be related. [05:05] thanks for any suggestions [05:05] journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 would post the systemd journal since the latest reboot online. [05:05] apt-forktracer (package and command) lists leftover packages which probably should not be installed, or lack an apt source configuration to get upgrades from [05:06] (run 'apt update' beforehand) [05:07] did you reboot since this upgrade? ("uptime" would tell how long the system has been running) [05:08] tomreyn: of course did update befoe upgrade. have done several reboots, following ubuntu sound troubleshooting guides. It isnt throwing any errors at all. sound just stops making noise during media playback of all types. [05:09] ok, the "run 'apt update' beforehand" recommendation referred to apt-forktracer [05:10] i was wondering whether you rebooted since the apt upgrade to understand whether the upgraded kernel image is already active [05:12] yes is active, system also prompted for reboot in tray after upgrade. [05:13] Faulty driver? === akem__ is now known as akem [05:15] yelof: your upgraded package list, more readable (but missing the newly installed 5.0.0-31.33 kernel packages, you were previously on 5.0.0-31): https://termbin.com/u9xe [05:16] had to intall apt-forktracer, it does not print ny output [05:17] okay, so (while i can always miss something), i don't see how any of these package updates would have broken sound, so it's more likely kernel related. [05:19] !bug | so i suggest you file a bug against linux [05:19] so i suggest you file a bug against linux: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its official !flavors, please report it using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [05:19] aken__: possible was working before update, tomreyn: so that means go back to prior kernel? thanks for looking it over. will file bug if I confirm [05:20] yelof: actually, good point, and i don't know why i wasn't thinking of this: do reboot and select the previous kernel image. [05:20] and do it before you file the bug report [05:20] (ah you just said so) [05:21] will do, thank you! [05:21] so boot to 5.0.0.29.30 [05:27] yelof: hey, do you have your speakers connected via bluetooth? [05:28] no, bluetooth i off as ell. have wired or hdmi, both present the issue. [05:30] yelof, It's a laptop? [05:36] no it is desktop. Has been over 10 minutes since I booted in the older kernel, still playing sound. [06:01] yelof: if it'll work for 30 minutes, reboot to the latest kernel again, file your bug report, then reboot to the 5.0.0.29.30 kernel image again. then make sure this one doesn't get automatically removed, by passing the packages returned by dpkg -l | awk '/5.0.0-29.31~18.04.1/ {print $2}' to apt-mark hold [06:03] yelof: to make the good kernel image your default (so you no longer need to select it at boot), you can use https://askubuntu.com/questions/216398/set-older-kernel-as-default-grub-entry [06:04] but if you do this, make sure you closely follow your bug report and do also occasionally try new kernel images, since running an old and outdated kernel image means running an insecure and buggy kernel image when time passes. [06:05] So far so good, will see if it happens again tonight, and confirm the issue is present upon reboot tomorrow, and file a bug with more sleep. Thanks for looking it over, I hadn't been thinking easy as kernel, was about to start rolling back packages. [06:06] You are lucky old kernel wasn't removed when upgrading, mine was last time and i didn't even know about it. === akemhp_ is now known as akemhp [06:08] it's a low risk system unless you want to steal my music... and yes I'll try the next release. with TBs of storage I usually leave a few old kernels. speaking of both Audio, Wifi, and Bluetooth I'm used to issues, amazing how far the drivers have improved in a few years. [06:16] does anyone know where can I get power management driver for lenovo ideapad laptops for ubuntu? [06:18] I am using lubuntu 16.04. Since 3 hours ago that I restarted my laptop, none of my usb ports work. for example my mouse does not work. but usb thetering works. Does any one know how I can fix this? [06:19] motaka2, keyboard still works, right? [06:20] (I have no way of knowing if you are in irc on another machine or your phone or something, in case you think that was a silly question) [06:20] !crosspost | motaka2 [06:20] motaka2: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [06:22] doug16k: yes it work. I can even share my internet with usb thetering. but mouse and external hard, regardless of to which usb port I connet them, it doesnt work [06:24] doug16k: The message I receive during booting is: usb2: port 4 or port 2 etc: unable to enumerate usb device [06:24] so rebooting does not work. [06:24] motaka2: as guiverc pointed ou tin #lubuntu, lubuntu 16.04 is unsupported since April 2019 [06:25] how about unplugging devices, and try them one at the time:? [06:25] oh [06:25] motaka2, this bug could be related: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=202541 [06:25] bugzilla.kernel.org bug 202541 in USB "xhci_hcd 0000:15:00.0: WARN Set TR Deq Ptr cmd failed due to incorrect slot or ep state" [High,New] [06:25] 3 years, dang [06:25] then any bug would not be fixed [06:25] oh, ancient. nevermind [06:25] tomreyn: my laptop is very old and since my ext HDD doesnt work, I can not backup [06:26] motaka2: then use a cloud backup or buy a new hdd [06:26] motaka2, I run Lubuntu 18.04 on a ibm thinkpad t43 - i consider that ancient. [06:26] (or usb controller) [06:26] luckily, laptops usually still use the good old i8042 keyboard interface. that thing is nearly infallible [06:26] tomreyn: my HDD works. but it does not work on this machine because the usb stopped working. Now please be quite and listen to others [06:27] hehe [06:28] sometimes talking nice to hardware works [06:28] doug16k: my keyboard works. the touchpad works. just the mouse and the external hdd do not [06:29] talking nice to tomreyn usually works too [06:30] doug16k: in ##linux someone repeat taht I should shut down my pc. so I asked in lubuntu. They said it is old. So I asked here. But he keeps saying dont ask several places and change your hardware. [06:31] just upgrade to 18.04 lts [06:32] motaka2: do your ports function when booted to LiveCD/LiveUSB? [06:32] did you try booting without the usb drive? they can be a significant load on the usb power rail, particularly if they are old/failing. the mouse might start working [06:32] OerHeks: I have been using it on my VAIO NS110. It was really really slow. I was at final stages of writing my thesis. So I need to work with it just for 2 days. [06:33] tatertotz: unfortunately I dont have a live CD or USB. I am connected to internet with my slow cellphone internet. I can nnot download and burn a new image [06:34] drooping rail can make all the usb devices send nonsense and mess up the controller's state machine [06:34] doug16k: can you please tell me how to do that? [06:35] shut down. unplug the usb hard drive. power up [06:36] doug16k: ah yeah, I did several times, I unplugged everything. and then just plugged the mouse. but even the mouse alone didnt work [06:37] I've got a very annoying problem. 19.04 is completely unable to save my sound settings, every time I restart I have to change my microphone and its volume and I have to change my system volume, how can I fix this? [06:37] can you go somewhere with wifi? you can go through a phone to get to wifi without using your phone's data plan [06:39] doug16k: no, I can not. this is my only internet source in this village [06:41] doug16k: during the boot it says "unable to enumerate USB device" [06:43] vitimiti: does this list much? find ~ -not -$ -user $USER -and -group $USER -$ -ls [06:43] @tomreyn, it lists nothing [06:44] vitimiti: what about "sudo find ~ -not $USER" [06:44] EriC^^, it says "find: paths must precede expression: `vmatia'" [06:45] vitimiti: sudo find ~ ! -user $USER [06:45] EriC^^, that lists nothing [06:48] motaka2, can you post the output of: lsusb | pastebinit [06:49] doug16k: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Mq6DbsPQNb/ [06:50] vitimiti: diagnosing this is probably not much fun, i suggest you just wait a few more days until ubuntu 19.10 releases, upgrade, and see whether it is solved then. if it isn't, come back. (that's unless you strictly need a solution now.) [06:51] This has been happening since the move to GNOME, tomreyn, it's not new [06:51] vitimiti: what were you running before gnome, and which ubuntu release were you on when you moved to gnome? [06:51] Unity [06:52] motaka2, I'd try the mouse in the same port you have the phone plugged into [06:52] I can't remember the number that Unity was being used last [06:52] I have been looking for a solution since, I've come now here cause I'm out of options [06:52] vitimiti: unity this exists [06:52] I beg your pardon? [06:53] doug16k: I have, it doesnt work. To whichever port I connect the ophone, it works. But to which ever port I connect the mouse or HDD they dont work. I event changed the mouse, yet no results [06:53] motaka2, how about trying without phone/internet? [06:53] vitimiti: unity was the default desktop on 16.04 LTS, and probably still on 16.10 and maybe 17.04. what were you running before 19.04? [06:54] if that does not work, then there is nothing we can do i guess [06:54] tomreyn, the same with the same problem, as I say, I have been looking for a solution since then [06:55] tomreyn, I have been following a guy's post in ask Ubuntu as well, but he has had no answers either https://askubuntu.com/questions/1177964/ubuntu-19-04-audio-settings-are-not-being-rembembered [06:56] motaka2, do you have a usb hub? could be your laptop's usb 1.1 root hub is dead but 2.0/3.x is ok. try plugging a hub into the laptop and plug your devices into the hub [06:56] OerHeks: Yes, I tried that too and no positive results [06:57] doug16k: I was diconnected for a moment [06:58] pardon me if I missed any o your comments [06:58] motaka2, do you have a usb hub? could be your laptop's usb 1.1 root hub is dead but 2.0/3.x is ok. try plugging a hub into the laptop and plug your devices into the hub [06:59] preferably a decent hub that is at least usb 2.0 (of course) [06:59] vitimiti: what'S the output of ls -l /var/lib/alsa/asound.state [07:00] tomreyn, ls: cannot access '/var/lib/alsa/asound.state': No such file or directory [07:01] hmm well i'm not sure whether it should exist on 19.04 [07:01] I haven't touched a single sound config apart from the GUI settings that come with the system [07:01] i think on 18.04 LTS, "alsactl store" would normally write this file on shutdown [07:02] doug16k: no I dont have [07:02] vitimiti: okay, that was misleading, it's not where this is stored anymore. [07:03] motaka4, sorry, out of ideas. I wish you luck [07:05] vitimiti: you can try to find out how these settings are meant to be retained over reboots (mostly be web search, i guess, look for something "pulseaudio" or "alsa" related), then see whether this mechanism works on your system. [07:05] doug16k: thanks a lot for your care. There are lots of threads with "unable to enumerate usb device" but i dont understand what they are suggesting [07:05] Aha. I think it'd be easier to ditch GNOME, but thanks for trying [07:05] vitimiti: i need to head out for now. good luck! [07:07] vitimiti: you can also ensure you have all needed components of the ubuntu desktop installed using sudo apt update && sudo apt install ubuntu-desktop^ (the caret character is not a typo) [07:07] I have installed this again 2 days ago to make sure, still nothing. I'm just gonna install a different Ubuntu based distro [07:07] Cause I haven't got all my life to fix this [07:07] me neither, so see you [07:11] still amazed everyday at the issues people have that I don't :D [07:11] I mean it's the same code... [07:22] doug16k: speaking from experience its easy for hardware, or an extra package, or one missing can make it all different with no easy way to tell. [07:23] but livecd, or fresh install usually sort it out [07:36] ECC and cpu running at correct frequency for the win! :D [08:04] I want to bind unused Windows key (without any additional key) to launch Terminal or any other app . on bionic [08:06] i dont know if that is possible - i believe that other than des havign implemented a workaround to hard bind it to a luancher, its read as a modifier key [08:07] i believe AHK on windows is capable of doing so though, so perhaps it is possible on linux [08:07] yeah [08:16] Having some annoying issues.. Like clicks aren't registering properly etc. They act as if I have some key pressed [08:17] Or like I try to pause/play netflix and it flicks to the state I want.. Then back [08:17] How do I troubleshoot this? [08:17] Ok clicking on the main picture in netflix is now full screening it.. Instead of pausing. [08:18] IO feel like there must be a key pressed somewhere [08:25] onomatopie: your ubuntu version, flavor, graphical desktop, kernel version, X server are? [08:26] this is a way to find out: nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL) [08:32] tomreyn: https://termbin.com/7ucf Very useful command/tool! [08:32] onomatopie: kernel -31 is out, you might want to update if you like [08:33] Is there a guide for that? [08:33] I'm just a Windows man trying to escape [08:34] !update [08:34] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [08:34] sorry, that's the wrong hint [08:34] -uptodate tomreyn [08:35] !uptodate [08:35] To ensure you have all the latest known patches and security updates for your ubuntu installation, please update with the following command: `sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade`. See also !upgrades and !security; you may also need to run `apt full-upgrade`. [08:35] onomatopie: ^ [08:35] I'm just done that [08:35] thanks lotuspsychje [08:35] np ; ) [08:35] i assume kernel -31 is only in -proposed [08:36] tHIS THING NEEDS A REBOOT perhaps [08:36] onomatopie: to your original question: xev [08:36] but the occasional reboot can help, too ;) [08:37] I am forced to often [08:37] THis damn thing crashes so often [08:38] Also.. the worst sin of all .. No thunderbolt [08:38] linux-image-generic-hwe-18.04 5.0.0.31.88 is actually in -updates, too (but hasn't reached the apt mirror i'm using, yet) [08:39] onomatopie: focus on the actual ubuntu questions, volunteers cant help on complaints only [08:39] onomatopie: we can only help with software issues, i'm afraid [08:39] Yes I know! !IUI wasn;t affter help on that [08:40] Let me reboot and see :) [08:41] Alright let's see. [08:44] Alright something is still a bit amiss with this [08:44] onomatopie: tell us what you experience exactly? [08:45] onomatopie: are these your hotkeys Fn+F or the gnome hotkeys you speak of? [08:45] Hey, i'm having a hard time ssh'ing into my basically just setup ubuntu 19 droplet [08:45] https://prnt.sc/pfhbzb [08:45] can't even connect from localhost lol [08:47] Not hotkeys [08:47] Just default behavious [08:47] !crosspost | MJCD [08:47] MJCD: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [08:47] Like clicking on a taskbar item should bring it up right? It is instead just flicking on and off [08:48] lotuspsychje, sorry it just occurred to me its a -server question [08:48] onomatopie: on wich item does this occur? [08:49] lotuspsychje: The ones with multiple windows open [08:49] on a non-server question [08:49] https://wiki.znc.in/Running_ZNC_as_a_system_daemon#Create_the_init.d_Scripts [08:49] Basically: It appears that there is a key pressed somewhere [08:49] am I really expected to do all of that [08:49] But I cannot work out which [08:49] just to run znc on reboot lol [08:49] like surely just `sudo service register znc; service start znc` [08:50] onomatopie: please elaborate, maybe take a screenshot of what you mean, so volunteers can think along with you [08:51] onomatopie: do you have a lot of gnome-shell extensions installed? [08:51] i.e. ls -1 .local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ | nc termbin.com 9999 [08:52] this rather: ls -1 ~/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/ | nc termbin.com 9999 [08:56] onomatopie, press and release each ctrl, shift, alt key [08:56] sometimes (since 1988) a keyup message doesn't get through, and the OS continues to believe it is pressed [08:57] also double press windows key [08:58] windows has same issue. nobody tests their keyboard hardware for packet loss. [08:58] might add a cent to the chip price [09:01] doug16k: Such a nice low tech solution! Thanks.. I think it worked] [09:01] Yes. Very much see,s to have worked [09:14] i have just completed the installation of ubuntu server on a system.. upon reboot i get "no operating system found." [09:14] i have attempted both the live installation and also the alternative installation [09:14] grub installation was run [09:14] what's going on here? [09:23] zamba: maybe you booted the installer in legacy bios / csm mode while the standard system now tries to boot in eufi mode, or the other way around [09:27] tomreyn: i tried changing from legacy and uefi boot in setup after installation, but none took [09:31] zamba: which ubuntu server version did you install, which installer did you use (.iso file name), which hardware did you install on? [09:38] tomreyn: ubuntu server 18.04.3 LTS.. 64-bit version.. ubuntu-18.04.3-server-amd64.. [09:38] i installed on a lenovo thinksentre [09:38] thinkcentre* [09:40] zamba: was there any error message during installation? is there a reason you preferred the alternative server installer over the default one? [09:41] #* zamba: there's this rather old post about boot issues with a similar message as the one you posted, on Lenovo ThunkCentre hardware: https://askubuntu.com/questions/141879/error-1962-no-operating-system-found-after-installing-12-04-lenovo-thinkcentre [09:45] onomatopie, nice [09:49] tomreyn: because the same thing happened with the live installation [09:49] tomreyn: no errors [09:50] tomreyn: but this is frankly outrageous [09:50] zamba: access the bios configuration screen, make sure that SATA mode is set to AHCI, not IDE, not RAID. [09:52] zamba: Once that is done: At the top of the screen select the Startup tab. After this, go ahead and select CSM and hit Now select the Enabled option. Go down a little and locate Boot Priority, after which hit Enter. Now change the current option of Legacy First to UEFI First. [09:52] Finally, press the F10 key and choose YES. [10:01] tomreyn: is all this in the bios? [10:01] tomreyn: i don't have that legacy vs uefi first option [10:01] tomreyn: i suspect it's a too old bios [10:01] i tried changing the hard drive now [10:01] zamba: yes, it's all in the bios [10:02] if it's an old thinkcentre, and old bios for this thinkcentre, it may not be able to boot in uefi mode, and you should make it boot in CSM / Legacy BIOS mode. [10:03] tomreyn: how do i make it boot in csm/legacy mode? [10:03] i don't have those options in my bios [10:04] zamba: you timed out, maybe you missed this? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SZtH9K6rwR/ [10:05] the latter part of this is from https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkCentre-A-E-M-S-Series/lenovo-thinkcentre-error-1962/m-p/4006406/highlight/true#M22786 [10:06] here's a video if this works better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFJLJyVmQ-I [10:07] tomreyn: i don't have that [10:07] but now i don't get "no operating system found", but instead i get a blinking prompt at the top right corner [10:08] what does it say? [10:08] tomreyn: nothing.. it's just a blinking cursor [10:08] if i select UEFI mode then i get "no operating system found" [10:09] legacy or auto just gets me the blinking cursors [10:09] cursor* [10:09] zamba: can you tell which thinkcentre model you have exactly? [10:10] 5049-e5g [10:10] legacy mode gives me the blinking cursor [10:10] auto or uefi gets me "no operating system found" [10:11] it's a thinkcentre m81 [10:11] with an old bios (2011) [10:12] zamba: ok. and do you have options to set the boot priority of your storages etc in either uefi or legacy mode? [10:12] nope [10:12] oh, yes, orry [10:13] sorry* .. i have the boot mode.. auto/uefi/legacy [10:13] if i use auto or uefi i get "no operating system found" [10:13] with "legacy" it just gives me a flashing/blinking cursor in the top-left corner on a black screen [10:14] zamba: did you install in uefi or legacy mode? [10:14] EriC^^: in auto [10:14] zamba: do you have a live usb you can boot to troubleshoot? [10:14] EriC^^: yup [10:14] zamba: ok boot it [10:15] latest bios is at https://pcsupport.lenovo.com/gb/en/products/desktops-and-all-in-ones/thinkcentre-m-series-desktops/thinkcentre-m81/5049/downloads/DS018245 [10:15] (second download is the .iso) [10:15] tomreyn: how do i flash this? [10:15] tomreyn: i need windows to flash it [10:15] EriC^^: "rescue a broken system"? [10:15] no. you'd write the iso to a usb stick [10:16] zamba: i think so, we just need a live environment, never used the server iso before [10:16] EriC^^: ok, it's up [10:16] tomreyn: which one [10:16] zamba: do you have internet connectivity in it? [10:16] EriC^^: yup [10:16] EriC^^: should i use the devmapper as the root fs? [10:16] zamba: https://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/thinkcentre_bios/9hj958usa.iso - but keep working with EriC^^ for now. you can still do this later. [10:16] zamba: type "sudo parted -ls | nc termbin.com 9999" [10:17] "the installed system appears to use a separate /boot/efi partition" [10:17] should i mount that? [10:17] zamba: ah ok [10:17] zamba: yeah mounti t [10:17] execute a shell in the root? [10:17] yeah [10:18] zamba: type "efibootmgr -v | nc termbin.com 9999" [10:18] i don't have dns working here [10:19] but i have the ip [10:19] I'm trying to get a list of every program that gets started during my computer startup. I've checked systemd services with `systemctl list-unit-files`, and also looked in crontab for anything that starts with @reboot. Is there anywhere else on Ubuntu I should look to find programs that are run on startup? [10:19] zamba: ok efibootmgr -v | nc 5.39.93.71 9999 [10:19] EriC^^: it completed [10:19] zamba: link please [10:19] https://termbin.com/miai [10:20] efibootmgr didn't complete [10:20] inersha: there are your user programs under 'startup apps' in the menu [10:20] zamba: it hung? [10:20] EFI variables are not supported on this system [10:20] EriC^^: Thanks, didn't think of that. Can I access the list of these from the command line? [10:20] zamba: ah that means you're currently booted in legacy mode [10:21] Or are they stored in a file? [10:21] EriC^^: and what do i do then? [10:21] zamba: ok try "modprobe efivars && efibootmgr -v" in case that works [10:21] EriC^^: same [10:21] EFI variables are not supported on this system [10:21] inersha: ls -l ~/.config/auto [10:21] inersha: ls -l ~/.config/autostart [10:21] should i try installing ubuntu again now? [10:21] inersha: they are in ~/.config/autostart [10:21] zamba: no, hold your horses [10:22] EriC^^: i'm on an extreme deadline... :) [10:22] zamba: type "ls -lR /boot/efi | nc 5.39.93.71 9999" [10:22] i have to get this system up in 30 minutes :D [10:22] zamba: k give me then 1min more [10:22] https://termbin.com/36bp [10:22] tomreyn: EriC^^: Thank you! [10:22] zamba: mkdir -p /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot [10:23] EriC^^: done [10:23] zamba: try "mokutil --sb-state" [10:23] report back if secure boot is enabled [10:23] efi variables are not supported on this system [10:24] zamba: ok, type "sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/shimx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot/bootmgfw.efi" [10:24] zamba: also, type "sudo cp /boot/efi/efi/ubuntu/grubx64.efi /boot/efi/efi/microsoft/boot" [10:24] done [10:24] try rebooting [10:25] zamba: use uefi mode not auto [10:25] EriC^^: "no operating system found" [10:26] alright guess my minute's over [10:26]