| === acheronuk is now known as RikMills | ||
| === ktt is now known as ktt___ | ||
| ktt___ | Hello all. Lubuntu 19.10 beta (downloaded today) and VirtualBox 5 (as in Lubuntu 18.04): has someone managed to install the 19.10 beta into a virtual machine? | 09:53 |
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| ktt___ | In my experiments, the installation has now crashed twice and the virtual machine has just "aborted". | 09:54 |
| ktt___ | 4096 MB memory, 4 cores, 40 GB disk. | 09:54 |
| tomreyn | !ubuntu+1 | 09:55 |
| ubottu | Eoan Ermine is the codename for Ubuntu 19.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+1 | 09:55 |
| tomreyn | i wouldn't recommend using virtualbox as packaged in ubuntu, though, better use kvm-qemu or upstreams' virtualbox packages. | 09:56 |
| tomreyn | there are numerous bugs in 5.x | 09:56 |
| ktt___ | Ok, so it seems. On Windows, virtualbox 6.0, the installation went through pretty much fine. Now I'm installing Vbox 6.0 to Linux and testing there. | 10:06 |
| === grupo1 is now known as dtro_z | ||
| treekeko | snap installs dont work, how come? | 17:59 |
| lubot | <teward001> unless you've installed snapd you can't run snaps | 18:00 |
| lubot | <teward001> I don't think Lubuntu ships `snapd` by default | 18:00 |
| treekeko | app gets installed but wont run | 18:00 |
| lubot | <teward001> and you've tried to run it? | 18:00 |
| treekeko | wont run | 18:00 |
| treekeko | this output: | 18:00 |
| treekeko | /snap/jdownloader/7/wrapper: 3: /snap/jdownloader/7/wrapper: /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/bin/java: not found | 18:00 |
| treekeko | 2019/10/07 20:01:34.539984 cmd_linux.go:85: cannot open snapd info file "/snap/core/current/usr/lib/snapd/info": open /snap/core/current/usr/lib/snapd/info: permission denied | 18:02 |
| treekeko | (now - after installing snapd - i get the second one) | 18:03 |
| treekeko | snapd = snappy-debug ? | 18:03 |
| lubot | <teward001> no | 18:03 |
| lubot | <teward001> snapd is the thing that runs snaps | 18:03 |
| lubot | <teward001> you weren't precise with your issue earlier | 18:04 |
| lubot | <teward001> > /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/bin/java: not found < that's your issue with your jdownloader snap | 18:04 |
| lubot | <teward001> it needs Java available/installed and you don't have it installed | 18:04 |
| treekeko | because i installed snappy-debug but then it said snapd was installed | 18:04 |
| lubot | <teward001> you don't need snappy-debug. | 18:04 |
| lubot | <teward001> but you DO need Java installed | 18:04 |
| lubot | <teward001> which you don't seem to have installed based on that error | 18:04 |
| treekeko | so what is everything i must do now? | 18:05 |
| treekeko | now i only get the second one: 2019/10/07 20:01:34.539984 cmd_linux.go:85: cannot open snapd info file "/snap/core/current/usr/lib/snapd/info": open /snap/core/current/usr/lib/snapd/info: permission denied | 18:06 |
| treekeko | but i didnt install java | 18:06 |
| treekeko | what does this mean? | 18:06 |
| treekeko | is the java package called "java" | 18:07 |
| treekeko | ? | 18:08 |
| treekeko | so if i understood correctly i must first install java and then snapd, right? | 18:09 |
| lubot | <teward001> you already have snapd installed | 18:10 |
| lubot | <teward001> you need Java | 18:10 |
| treekeko | i think snaps should be made easier, they should work right away, i tried 4 or 5 and none worked right away... | 18:11 |
| lubot | <teward001> not all snaps are made the same | 18:11 |
| lubot | <teward001> nor does Lubuntu or Ubuntu have any control over them directly 😜 | 18:11 |
| lubot | <teward001> you can attempt to install default-jre to see if that works | 18:11 |
| lubot | <teward001> but it might not with that version of JDownloader in the snap | 18:11 |
| treekeko | it might not? | 18:12 |
| treekeko | so how to do it? | 18:12 |
| lubot | <teward001> very hard to explain to a non-developer - but under the hood it may use Java things that're too old or too new depending on what's installed. | 18:12 |
| lubot | <teward001> try and install default-jre and see if it works | 18:13 |
| lubot | <teward001> if it still doesn't work/run then you'll have to contact the developers of that snap itself and get assistance from them | 18:13 |
| lubot | <teward001> because it could be a problem with the snap itself | 18:13 |
| treekeko | what about that wrapper thing, what does that mean? | 18:13 |
| lubot | <teward001> that's the program that is inside the snap being run. Its error was actually stating this: /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/bin/java: not found | 18:14 |
| lubot | <teward001> which is why I said you don't have Java installed/available | 18:14 |
| treekeko | ok i'll try with default-jre | 18:15 |
| treekeko | thanks | 18:15 |
| treekeko | should i uninstall snappy-debug? | 18:16 |
| lubot | <teward001> yes | 18:16 |
| treekeko | what's the command to remove snap? | 18:17 |
| lubot | <teward001> `sudo apt remove snappy-debug` | 18:17 |
| lubot | <teward001> you don't need to remove snapd or the JDownloader snap necessarily though | 18:17 |
| treekeko | when you install snaps from the software center there's that permissions button... nothing needs to be done there? | 18:19 |
| treekeko | i havent touched it | 18:20 |
| tomreyn | no i dont think you need to change it | 18:20 |
| treekeko | ok thanks | 18:21 |
| tomreyn | those two options should be fine there by default https://i.imgur.com/o8sDwzp.png | 18:21 |
| treekeko | ok | 18:21 |
| tomreyn | but indeed this is not so useful: | 18:22 |
| tomreyn | x@x:~$ /snap/bin/jdownloader | 18:22 |
| tomreyn | Segmentation fault (core dumped) | 18:22 |
| treekeko | i dont understand | 18:22 |
| treekeko | im beginner | 18:22 |
| tomreyn | it crashed on a default ubuntu installation | 18:23 |
| treekeko | i tried many snaps and none work | 18:23 |
| tomreyn | then i suggest you draw your own conclusions from that | 18:23 |
| treekeko | snap sucks :) | 18:23 |
| lubot | <teward001> or those snaps are built for newer OSes or other libraries and software that are not available for your system. Or those specific snaps are just poor. | 18:24 |
| lubot | <teward001> ... or Lubuntu and Snaps just don't get along | 18:24 |
| lubot | <teward001> which is @tsimonq2's viewpoint on the subject | 18:24 |
| treekeko | life was easier before (snaps) | 18:24 |
| treekeko | also i dont understand why some software is only available as snaps | 18:25 |
| treekeko | some has both options, but some only snaps | 18:25 |
| treekeko | we need lubuntu to be easy if we want it to conquer the world :) | 18:26 |
| treekeko | this stuff is too complicated for most people | 18:26 |
| treekeko | including me | 18:27 |
| treekeko | :) | 18:27 |
| treekeko | we just need it to press the button and work right away, like everything was before | 18:28 |
| lubot | <HMollerCl> snaps supposedly are made for simplicity for the developer. \me don't like snaps so can't help, consumes to much resources. | 18:29 |
| treekeko | ok im going, thanks all | 18:31 |
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