/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2019/10/08/#ubports.txt

ubptgbot<libremax> For me since 2015 on BQ 4.5 and N5.00:04
ubptgbot<wayneoutthere> @Tomáš A Soušek [Is here anyone who use Ubuntu Touch as daily driver?], since 2015 for me01:04
ubptgbot<Javacookies> I've been using UT since 2013 and my main phone since 201502:43
ubptgbotholukije was added by: holukije03:05
ubptgbot<j2g2rp> also since 2015 for me04:06
ubptgbot<samitormanen> I wait that new phone like librem5 or pinephone, then i will be back to UT. for now, XA2 with Sailfish is good   substitute 😊04:42
ubptgbot<samitormanen> [Edit] I wait that new phone like librem5 or pinephone, then i will be back to UT. for now, XA2 with Sailfish is good substitute 😊04:42
ubptgbot<mattbel10> @David [Has anyone made a tutorial on how to code, install and run a "Hello World" app f …], I would recommend you also to have a look at this programming course for Ubuntu Touch: https://github.com/mimecar/ubuntu-touch-programming-course-gitbook even if full of information related to a nowadays deprecated SDK, it is anyway useful IMHO.05:56
ubptgbot To build the .click files we use a very handy tool called clickable, which is awesome :)05:56
ubptgbottaerexony was added by: taerexony06:02
ubptgbot<mimecar> I will update the doc06:12
ubptgbot<mattbel10> @mimecar [I will update the doc], Great Miguel! Thank you for your work, really appreciated and very useful to understand how to properly use Qt/QML06:20
ubptgbot<malditobastardo> Fantastic job indeed! :)06:35
ubptgbot<tylnesh> BTW, with dev channel, the Bluetooth works like a charm on OnePlus One06:35
ubptgbot<tylnesh> which makes me wonder, is there any way to import contacts from either Google or Nextcloud account? It's pretty much the last issue that stops it from becoming my daily driver06:36
ubptgbot<LarreaMikel> one time import?06:59
ubptgbot<LarreaMikel> have you tried downloading all your contacts (vcf file) from nextcloud and adding them in the phone via terminal with syncevolution?07:01
ubptgbot<hacker12455> @tylnesh [which makes me wonder, is there any way to import contacts from either Google or …], There should be a contact import option in the Contacts app07:06
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> @tylnesh [which makes me wonder, is there any way to import contacts from either Google or …], You should be able to sync with both Google and nextcloud07:13
ubptgbot<tylnesh> nope, doesn't work with Google07:15
ubptgbot<tylnesh> and heard it doesn't work with Nextcloud yet07:15
ubptgbot<PhoenixLandPirate> I thought my contacts used to sync with nextcloud but I might just have been delusional :') anyways GTG ttul8r07:15
ubptgbot<LarreaMikel> if you want to try downloading the file, I can guide you with the syncevolution command07:16
ubptgbot<Danfro> @hacker12455 [There should be a contact import option in the Contacts app], There is already an issue open for that.07:22
ubptgbot<Danfro> vcf can be imported using filemanager. Copy file on your phone, tap in filemanager, select contacts as target. Done (hopefully)07:23
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @tylnesh [which makes me wonder, is there any way to import contacts from either Google or …], Unfortunately that is an open issue that is waiting to be fixed for Contacts.  Currently what I do is export all my contacts to a vcf file, load that to my UT device, and then import that to my Contacts by clicking on the vcf file in File Man07:23
ubptgbotager, and then choose the Contacts app from the list of apps that pops up.  I do regular backups of all my Contacts to a vcf file that I keep on my NextCloud account - and I keep this synced via the UBsync app that is available in the Open Store.07:23
ubptgbot<tylnesh> @TotalSonic [Unfortunately that is an open issue that is waiting to be fixed for Contacts.  C …], That may be viable07:24
ubptgbot<tylnesh> I'll try to get back to RC channel07:24
ubptgbot<tylnesh> see if BT is working07:24
ubptgbot<tylnesh> and import my contacts that way07:24
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @tylnesh [see if BT is working], what device are you using?07:25
ubptgbot<tylnesh> OnePlus One07:25
ubptgbot<tylnesh> on stable the microphone on my headset doesn't work07:25
ubptgbot<tylnesh> on dev, it works07:25
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @tylnesh [see if BT is working], Bluetooth File Transfer app in the Open Store works well on my OPO - I am in RC channel though … https://open-store.io/app/ubtd.fourloop200207:26
ubptgbot<tylnesh> I meant using bluetooth headphones and microphones07:27
ubptgbot<tylnesh> for voice caling07:27
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Bluetooth is working for sending audio, but not receiving, in RC.  Don't know about devel.07:28
ubptgbot<tylnesh> In devel I tried it on saturday and it worked07:45
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @tylnesh [In devel I tried it on saturday and it worked], that is good to know08:08
ubptgbotEraLimSIM was added by: EraLimSIM08:21
ubptgbot<Stefano0101> @tylnesh [BTW, with dev channel, the Bluetooth works like a charm on OnePlus One], Bluetooth calling, or Bluetooth sharing/ streaming?10:03
ubptgbot<bhushanshah> @EraLimSIM [EraLimSIM was added by: bhushanshah], Hello there. Are you human?10:05
ubptgbot<Stefano0101> @tylnesh [BTW, with dev channel, the Bluetooth works like a charm on OnePlus One], [Edit] Bluetooth calling, or Bluetooth sharing/ streaming? If the calling works, that's great, there is a hope on oter devices might as well.10:06
ubptgbot<bhushanshah> If no response within 5 mins, banhammer will be dropped10:06
ubptgbot<Stefano0101> @tylnesh [BTW, with dev channel, the Bluetooth works like a charm on OnePlus One], [Edit] Bluetooth calling, or Bluetooth sharing/ streaming? If the calling works, that's great, there is a hope on other devices might as well.10:06
ubptgbot<Flohack> @bhushanshah [If no response within 5 mins, banhammer will be dropped], He is virtual, so no human 😆10:08
ubptgbot<bhushanshah> @Flohack [He is virtual, so no human 😆], Virtual machine was deleted10:11
ubptgbot<tylnesh> @Stefano0101 [Bluetooth calling, or Bluetooth sharing/ streaming? If the calling works, that's …], Calling and playback works, I don't use BT file sharing10:15
ubptgbotHARVEY WATKINS was added by: HARVEY WATKINS10:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> that would be quite surprising.12:50
ubptgbot<markvesime> Looks as if the N5 camera has gone back to some of its old tricks: video freezes and if I press the record button anyway it says 'capture failed, restart might help'. RC channel.13:30
ubptgbot<ulrichard> @tylnesh [BTW, with dev channel, the Bluetooth works like a charm on OnePlus One], How long does it usually take to migrate to the RC channel? And does that mean there is hope that it will also work again on the Aquaris 4.5?13:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> @ulrichard [How long does it usually take to migrate to the RC channel? And does that mean t …], however long it takes to download the image and reboot/install it13:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> so basically same amount of time as a full flash of UT13:39
ubptgbot<ulrichard> So, there is no distinction between dev and RC channels?13:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> well they are different channels. but they basically remain the same during the freeze13:43
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [Bluetooth is working for sending audio, but not receiving, in RC.  Don't know ab …], It work for sending? Hmmm14:00
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [It work for sending? Hmmm], you can stream a2dp but headset/handsfree profile doesn't work well14:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> The last time i tested it didn't work with bluetooth speakers14:04
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> It works great as a bluetooth speaker itself tho :p14:04
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] The last time i tested my device, it didn't work with bluetooth speakers14:05
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> which is a feature i enjoy using14:06
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Wait you can use your device as a Bluetooth speaker?14:12
ubptgbot<Shakendo> ^14:14
ubptgbot<dohbee> yes, you can user your PC as one too even14:15
ubptgbot<Shakendo> Ive done it with my PC, my device has never been the speaker though, Ive tried a few times but it didnt work14:15
ubptgbot<dohbee> not really worth the trouble either way, though14:16
ubptgbot<Shakendo> Yeah, prob not14:17
ubptgbot<dohbee> would be more useful to have emulated bluetooth host/central device for qemu and being able to write some scripts/modules to emulate different types of bluetooth devices for testing14:19
ubptgbot<Kiet> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/nDDHMK7Q.png14:50
ubptgbot<Kiet> changed14:50
ubptgbot<Kiet> (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/TEUbAOhh.webp14:50
ubptgbot<W M> Weird question:  … Does The UBports installer install the latest stable version from UBports or the latest stable version from Canonical? … I ask because I installed it on my Meizu Pro 5 (Ubuntu Edition) and it works well. But there were a lot of updates. When I rebooted to update, I got a white screen that said it failed and to contact custo15:01
ubptgbotmer service. … Looking online, there were instructions to change the cache partition size. I slowly and carefully did that, but it didn't fix the update problem. It also prevented Android from booting when I reinstalled it. … So for now, I reverted the partition changes and I'm back on a working Android, scared to brick my phone. … Thoughts?15:01
ubptgbotmeprashant was added by: meprashant15:04
ubptgbot<pjk2012> @W M [Weird question:  … Does The UBports installer install the latest stable version f …], UBports does not support the old Canonical versions anymore.15:06
ubptgbot<dohbee> also please split up such long posts into multiple posts, as it can be very annoying for people on other chat platforms that are bridged to this one, and also makes it more difficult to reply to individual points15:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> iow, telegram is not a web forum/e-mail system :)15:08
ubptgbotharvey186 was added by: harvey18615:16
ubptgbot<harvey186> Can me someone tell how long the UBports installer will need for downloading file 3 of 3 ?15:17
ubptgbot<matv1> As I understand from the latest Q&A, the Sony Xperia X is now a community supported device. Should it not be added to list in https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ ?15:22
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Not done yet.15:23
ubptgbot<matv1> oh15:23
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Still needs some fixes for updating.15:23
ubptgbot<matv1> okay thanks Dalton15:23
ubptgbot<Christopher> I can't wait to use ubports w/ xperia x!15:24
ubptgbot<matv1> +115:24
ubptgbot<matv1> actually cant wait even less for the PinePhone but yeah :)15:25
ubptgbot<Christopher> why the pinephone rather than xperia x?15:26
ubptgbot<matv1> i expect a lot of ppl from the UT community to run for the new devices as so many of our current devices are dying of age. I hear it everywhere15:26
ubptgbot<matv1> @Christopher [why the pinephone rather than xperia x?], cause its mainline Linux! which is imho the future of Linux phones15:27
ubptgbot<Christopher> I have an xperia x "compact" and overall the nexus 5 is a smaller phone but if the port works on the compact, whiich from everything I've read it probably will...15:28
ubptgbot<Christopher> xperia x will becokme the newest not-big phone that will run ubports15:28
ubptgbot<matv1> @Christopher [I have an xperia x "compact" and overall the nexus 5 is a smaller phone but if t …], If it doesnt work out the box, the changes needed for the compact will hopefully be minimal15:30
ubptgbot<Christopher> I found a youtube video of some guy who installed sailfish on the compact, even though sailfish only supports the full size xpera...15:31
ubptgbot<Christopher> and he said it worked without doing anything special15:31
ubptgbot<matv1> cool. Maybe you could try loading an image of the current state of Alfreds version already then15:33
ubptgbot<matv1> unless you need it as a daily driver15:34
ubptgbot<Christopher> I'd like to15:36
ubptgbot<Christopher> I actually got as far as installing twrp on it15:36
ubptgbot<Christopher> but I was confused about the next steps after that so decided to "do the rest later"15:37
ubptgbot<Christopher> but that was a few weeks ago15:37
ubptgbot<Shakendo> The xperia x is a nice device, there are many others in the works as well, I myself am currently working on one, however the community devices like the xperia x will take a little longer to reach the installer15:38
ubptgbot<Shakendo> The hope is 2 weeks, Im think realisticly 3 to 415:39
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Hmm, what are the requirements for a community device?15:43
ubptgbot<Shakendo> One sec15:43
ubptgbot<Shakendo> Fwd from mariogrip: about this, the device does not need to be anywhere near finished. only requirment is that it boots graphics and recovery has system-image enabled :) so pm if anyone want to try this15:44
ubptgbot<Christopher> that's awesome :)15:44
ubptgbot<Shakendo> I have yet to play with recovery so my device wont be in that until I do, but thats all Marius has said about it15:45
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Wasn't this about building the system image on CI?15:48
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @hacker12455 [Wait you can use your device as a Bluetooth speaker?], Yep~15:49
ubptgbot<hacker12455> How?15:49
ubptgbot<Shakendo> @hacker12455 [Wasn't this about building the system image on CI?], Yeah, and thats used by the installer to get the images16:05
ubptgbot<hacker12455> So basically to be listed in the installer you need the device bootable and the UT recovery working?16:06
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Someone correct me if I'm misunderstanding it16:06
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There isn't a process yet.16:07
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Oh16:07
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> There's no need for a formal process, there aren't enough devices that are ready to do that16:07
ubptgbot<hacker12455> So community devices that are gonna be listed on the page can have missing features?16:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> official devices have "missing features"16:08
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Still I would need to fix sharing...16:08
ubptgbot<hacker12455> And get apparmor working16:09
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Plus media-hub16:09
ubptgbot<hacker12455> These are pretty much the only issues16:09
ubptgbot<hacker12455> (main ones)16:09
ubptgbot<hacker12455> @fredldotme is working on media-hub issues with the ringtone16:10
ubptgbot<fredldotme> am I? lol16:10
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [It work for sending? Hmmm], I am able to send audio to a dedicated Bluetooth music receiver that has input only.  I am not able to connect to bi-directional devices though.16:10
ubptgbotI_am_Tom was added by: I_am_Tom16:16
ubptgbot<hacker12455> @fredldotme [am I? lol], Didn't you say that you were working on it?16:38
ubptgbot<fredldotme> @hacker12455 [Didn't you say that you were working on it?], no, that's working for me16:38
ubptgbot<hacker12455> If not that might be my late hour brain misremembering stuff16:38
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Hmm16:39
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Oh I'm dumb16:40
ubptgbot<hacker12455> It was @stefanomelchior who mentioned the media-hub issue16:40
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Fwd from stefanomelchior: in .cache/upstart I will find out that the media-hub can’t play the default sound to advise when an inbound call arriving, despite of sound working fine, on top of that I found out that vibration is inhibit by an error in permission of time_outer class in /sys16:41
ubptgbot<hacker12455> Fwd from stefanomelchior: Still to be fixed both the issues16:41
ubptgbot<Kiet> (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/2ZZww2lb.png16:46
ubptgbot<Kiet> can't read .mp4 file16:46
ubptgbot<dohbee> nexus 5 can't play mp4 currently no16:48
ubptgbot<Kiet> @dohbee [nexus 5 can't play mp4 currently no], Ok16:48
ubptgbotMartianBold was added by: MartianBold18:57
ubptgbot<ManuelBxxm> What is about the Sony Xperia Z1 Compact port19:08
ubptgbot<ManuelBxxm> Because is was Not updated since 2016 or so But i think its simpler to Update a device Like this then porting News ones19:09
ubptgbot<ManuelBxxm> And maybe the Poco f1 will soon get Mainline Support do you think that could be a perfekt device19:10
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The perfect device is the one you're working on19:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> Lol19:11
ubptgbot<dohbee> @ManuelBxxm [Because is was Not updated since 2016 or so But i think its simpler to Update a …], it was something Canonical was working on, and so it was dropped along with the rest of Canonial dropping the work, and iirc the work was not public, so not something UBports picked up for that specific case19:12
ubptgbot<ManuelBxxm> Ok19:12
ubptgbot<ManuelBxxm> Thanks19:12
ubptgbot<ManuelBxxm> Sadly i can't Help much because first i must understand more about OSs and bootloaders19:14
ubptgbot<NotKit> https://github.com/Halium/projectmanagement/issues/106 - is it this?19:17
gitbotHalium issue 106 in projectmanagement " [device-port] [amami] Sony Xperia Z1 Compact" [Ports, Open]19:17
ubptgbot<Fabian L> I'm currently trying the Z5 compact19:18
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/PhYdXxKi.png Right, then. Support for MMS groups was not all there.20:01
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> The group doesn't receive the first message, forwarding is broken, and the group name doesn't appear. But at least the group started.20:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> whee20:04
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Six hours for a 29-byte change20:05
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> Development is great20:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> `install(CODE "do_thing()")` in CMake is awesome, btw20:06
ubptgbot<Normalton> Does anyone know if podbird is still actively maintained?20:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> afaik, the author of it is willing to review/merge PRs, but don't have time to actively develop it20:23
ubptgbotLEEPOT COOK was added by: LEEPOT COOK20:24
ubptgbot<LEEPOT COOK> zewfl20:24
ubptgbot<thesynthwhosleeps> Any good tablets supported20:26
ubptgbot<thesynthwhosleeps> Also can Firefox run on UBports20:27
ubptgbot<dohbee> https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io lists supported devices20:28
ubptgbot<dohbee> @thesynthwhosleeps [Also can Firefox run on UBports], there is not a touch friendly version of Firefox to run natively, no; it is possible to run the x11 version sort of in libertine, but it is not friendly for touch screens and has numerous issues20:28
ubptgbot<thesynthwhosleeps> @dohbee [there is not a touch friendly version of Firefox to run natively, no; it is poss …], Thanks20:29
ubptgbot<Shakendo> On my note 4 the address bar doesnt work, and as a result it loads but doesnt actually work20:30
wozencroftIs here maybe someone using Matrix via fluffychat? How good is it working? Or how is it with the web-app?20:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> riot web does not have a responsive design, so it's not good on phone really20:47
ubptgbot<dohbee> fluffychat works pretty decently20:47
wozencroftdohbee: I see, thanks for the hints. If I recall it's only chat right now with fluffychat, no audio/videocalls (and tox is not working at all on ubports)20:48
ubptgbot<dohbee> right, no a/v calls yet, though it will have e2e encryption for private chats soon i think20:49
wozencroftOk, that sounds good. I guess there is no Jami available on UBports yet.20:53
ubptgbot<dohbee> most things like that are problematic because they need something always running in the background and maintaining open connections to servers20:54
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @thesynthwhosleeps [Also can Firefox run on UBports], you can run it in a Libertine container but it does not work well currently.20:55
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @thesynthwhosleeps [Any good tablets supported], the only tablets supported now are Nexus 7 2013 (2nd generation) and the BQ M10.  The Pine64 PineTab should be released by the 1st quarter of 2020 and Ubuntu Touch support is planned for it.  https://pine64.org/pinetab20:57
ubptgbotAustin Bell was added by: Austin Bell20:59
ubptgbot<Austin Bell> Some people have Arch linux work on the Google PixelC tablet. Would it be feasable to run Ubuntu Touch on it? https://github.com/pixelc-linux/documentation21:02
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Austin Bell [Some people have Arch linux work on the Google PixelC tablet. Would it be feasab …], The PixelC doesn't run Android, it runs ChromeOS, so no not really, I guess.21:02
ubptgbot<Austin Bell> It runs Android21:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> oh wait it does run android. so i guess sure, if you create a port for it21:03
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Austin Bell [Some people have Arch linux work on the Google PixelC tablet. Would it be feasab …], it would need to be ported and would be a very difficult device to do this for21:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> it is tegra so that might be problematic, but otherwise shouldn't be any more difficult to port than any other android21:04
ubptgbot<dohbee> that github seems to be about trying to mainline the device though, which is more in line with the goals of postmarketOS than with UT21:06
ubptgbot<Austin Bell> They apperntly got Ubuntu runiing on it at some point https://github.com/pixelc-linux/ubuntu-releases21:06
ubptgbot<dohbee> i guess there's a lineage 14.1 tree for it, so you could do a proper port of UT for it21:07
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Austin Bell [They apperntly got Ubuntu runiing on it at some point https://github.com/pixelc- …], UT runs on android kernel, we don't run mainline kernel on android devices21:07
ubptgbot<dohbee> and UT is also not a traditional linux distro21:07
ubptgbot<Austin Bell> Linage has a 15.1 channel for it https://download.lineageos.org/dragon21:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> we don't support android 8/9 yet, so you need a 7.1 build21:08
ubptgbot<Gartral> @dohbee [and UT is also not a traditional linux distro], is there really such a thing as "Traditional linux" though? :P21:08
ubptgbot<jja2000> It's either Mainline or Hybris21:08
ubptgbot<Austin Bell> Got ya21:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Gartral [is there really such a thing as "Traditional linux" though? :P], yes, everything you're used to running on your PC21:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> whether it's debs, rpms, or `make install` to `/usr`21:09
ubptgbot<Gartral> I mean, we're talking about a kernel.. the kernel doesn't really change. literally everything else is fluff and apps running on top of the kernel21:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> traditional insecure linux distros do not fit well the model of mobile devices, or security/privacy enforcement21:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Gartral [I mean, we're talking about a kernel.. the kernel doesn't really change. literal …], no, we're talking about distributions which are based around the linux kernel21:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> and yes, the kernel changes constantly21:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> which is why we're stuck with ancient kernels on most devices21:10
ubptgbot<dohbee> only devices where all drivers are available as open source can have latest kernel, for UT21:11
ubptgbot<Austin Bell> The Pixel C uses the 3.18 Android kernel but the Arch port uses the 4.9 Kernel21:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> the arch "port" is irrelevant21:12
ubptgbot<Austin Bell> Ok21:12
ubptgbot<dohbee> if you want to port UT you must use the android kernel and vendor/device tree, and since there is a lineageos already, there might be a cm-14.1 branch, which you could use21:13
ubptgbot<dohbee> if not, you'll need to start from scratch and base on the released device/vendor stuff from google and do more work than if there was a lineage 14.1 to start from21:13
ubptgbot<dohbee> or you could work on getting halium working on lineage 15 based devices, and start from there, but it's a lot of work21:14
ubptgbot<Austin Bell> Im not a kernel dev or anything :p Google has abandoned the device so I am looking arounf trying to find a new OS for it and thought of UT since UT seems like a awsome thing21:16
ubptgbot<dohbee> several people have started porting devices without any knowledge of development really, let alone being a kernel developer21:17
ubptgbot<Austin Bell> Maybe Ill give it a shot. I thnk there is docs for poting and a live stream of porting somewhere.21:18
ubptgbot<dohbee> there are21:18
ubptgbot<Austin Bell> 👍21:18
ubptgbot<dohbee> https://docs.halium.org21:19
ubptgbot<dohbee> and if you are going to attempt it, you will probably want to join https://t.me/halium21:19
ubptgbot<NotKit> @dohbee [if you want to port UT you must use the android kernel and vendor/device tree, a …], if he can get GPU acceleration on mainline, why not to use mainline way as with Pine*/Librem?21:20
ubptgbot<dohbee> @NotKit [if he can get GPU acceleration on mainline, why not to use mainline way as with …], because literally nothing else works?21:21
ubptgbot<NotKit> https://github.com/pixelc-linux/documentation#what-is-broken21:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> i mean, you can do so on nexus 5 too with the work postmarket has done, if you really want to, but several things don't work21:22
ubptgbot<NotKit> but given it's a difficult device to start with for Halium, hard to say which is better21:23
ubptgbot<dohbee> if they don't want to work on low level kernel reverse engineering stuff, then working on mainlining stuff is probably not the best route to go21:23
ubptgbot<NotKit> I agree here21:24
ubptgbot<dohbee> at least with halium, the hardware should pretty much all be usable. but a tablet on mainline with no power management, sensors, sound, etc, and broken charging, sounds like asking to waste your own time for no reason21:25
ubptgbot<dohbee> emmc doesn't even work fully :-/21:26
ubptgbot<dohbee> otherwise i'd just say run lineage on it, if one doesn't want to work on porting or mainlining (both of which are going to be a lot of work, and perhaps difficult, given it's tegra)21:27
wozencroftdohbee: "traditional insecure linux distros" - that sounds interesting. android did not seem to be more secure in general (especially with limited support time) than linux distros21:36
ubptgbot<Austin Bell> Right, Ill problay through lineage on there. If im be realistic I dont have lot of hours to through at it. You guys are doing good work and I hope to use a UT device sometime soon 😊21:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> @wozencroft [dohbee: "traditional insecure linux distros" - that sounds interesting. android …], there's more to security than just having updates available21:37
wozencroftIt's interesting to notice though that canonical decided - back then - to go the android kernel way instead of focusing on a mainline linux phone21:38
wozencroftdohbee: True, yet real life tests do not reveal Average Joe's android systems to be especially secure - on the contrary.21:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> the goal wasn't to build hardware21:39
ubptgbot<dohbee> and since the funding campaign to actually build hardware didn't succeed, building any hardware at all was taken off the table, so we were left to partner with companies making android phones21:40
wozencroftAh, yes, I can remember that. The goal was simply too high, unrealistic21:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> @wozencroft [dohbee: True, yet real life tests do not reveal Average Joe's android systems to …], you are misunderstanding, and assuming that average joe's linux is especially secure. just making a bunch of wild assumptions doesn't help either. and i wasn't talking about android anyway. i was talking about security and linux distributions21:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> and yes, a proper android install is more secure in many ways, than traditional linux distros on PCs21:41
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ubptgbot<extraymond> Anyone got luck deploying wasm webapp locally?22:49
ubptgbot<extraymond> I tried with the click template but it can't be loaded via script tag...22:49
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @Kiet [can't read .mp4 file], Take the UTmedia-app. It works.23:03
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @dohbee [nexus 5 can't play mp4 currently no], Nexus5 can play mp4... with the UTmedia-app23:04
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Waldbursche [Nexus5 can play mp4... with the UTmedia-app], not hardware accelerated though23:05
ubptgbot<Waldbursche> @dohbee [not hardware accelerated though], agree23:08

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