lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 D49 abandoned?02:00
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [@tsimonq2 D49 abandoned?], Already uploaded02:05
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> 👍🏻02:08
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> checked shortcuts, works great. Finally!02:58
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> also, lubuntu-grub-theme is not installed by default? It should get installed with lubuntu-artwork right?02:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 wxl02:59
lubot<tsimonq2> @The_LoudSpeaker [also, lubuntu-grub-theme is not installed by default? It should get installed wi …], Probably just in the metapackage02:59
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> ?02:59
lubot<tsimonq2> The seed02:59
wxl[m]Did both the seed and Lubuntu-meta get updated? 03:00
lubot<tsimonq2> No03:00
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Did both the seed and Lubuntu-meta get updated?], say like this always. don't talk in riddles @tsimonq203:00
wxl[m]There ya go @The_LoudSpeaker 😂03:01
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> when does seed gets updated?03:01
wxl[m]He doesn't talk in riddles, just half sentences03:01
wxl[m]When you update it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣03:01
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> also, it's in the latest live. I mean not installed by default. but I can install it by apt install lubuntu-grub-theme. I don't need to add my ppa.03:02
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> When you update it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣], yeah. send instructions. I am free for next 2 hours.03:02
wxl[m]Right the package is in the archives03:02
wxl[m]In that order03:03
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> oh. so what do I do to https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/seed/ ?03:04
wxl[m]See the latter's README for instructions on how to deal with it03:04
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> oh. okay03:04
wxl[m]Read the files and their titles and they should explain themselves. Ask if it doesn't make sense03:08
wxl@teward001 i just happened to be on the shell and it saw some mail come in for lubuntu from cron. it's trying to run update.posts on the blog and there's a cert failure on https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/blog/.git … any ideas?03:31
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-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL80a1ed3a1420: Minorly reword searching for files] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL80a1ed3a142006:24
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-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL736d227ad16f: Add archive name field] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL736d227ad16f06:47
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lubot<HMollerCl> lubuntu-artwork landed13:08
lubot<HMollerCl> and plymouth-logo*13:09
lubot<tsimonq2> Nice!14:00
lubot<HMollerCl> not sure if some manual config will be necesary, specially for wallpaper14:10
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [not sure if some manual config will be necesary, specially for wallpaper], Oh?14:10
lubot<HMollerCl> The new wallpaper shoul be in teh re right?14:11
lubot<tsimonq2> Yes14:11
lubot<HMollerCl> so, in an upgrade I don't see it automatically changed14:12
lubot<HMollerCl> The new wallpaper woul need to be chosen manually14:12
lubot<tsimonq2> Did you log out and back in?14:12
lubot<tsimonq2> Or try a fresh daily?14:12
lubot<HMollerCl> neither14:13
lubot<tsimonq2> (Or an upgrade from 19.04? :) )14:13
lubot<tsimonq2> Give them a try14:13
lubot<tsimonq2> Should be good14:13
lubot<HMollerCl> upgrade from 19.04 but I should logout/in14:13
lubot<HMollerCl> Since I haven't changed the default wallpaper that could work14:13
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [Since I haven't changed the default wallpaper that could work], It should14:14
lubot<HMollerCl> question asside, do you know where I can get info on how stream(QProcess) works in c++ ?14:15
lubot<tsimonq2> Not sure.14:15
lubot<HMollerCl> https://github.com/Chemrat/redshift-qt/blob/master/systemtray.cpp#L5414:16
lubot<HMollerCl> how this works, it only readds stout, I would like to read stderr also14:16
lubot<teward001> @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 i just happened to be on the shell and it saw some mail come in …], would need the exact error(s).  Probably complaining about SSL certs because something doesn't have a cert, but I need the full error message.14:55
wxl[m]@teward001 `tail /var/mail/lubuntu`15:02
wxl[m]@HMollerCl https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qprocess.html#details15:03
lubot<HMollerCl> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @HMollerCl https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qprocess.html#details], but I found no mention of a stream() function there.15:05
lubot<teward001> wxl[m]: in which shell?  phab?15:13
wxl[m]@HMollerCl isn't that an instantiation of `QTextStream`? (see `stream.readLine()`) https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtextstream.html 15:24
wxl[m]@teward001 yeah15:25
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: yeah, taht should be15:31
lubot<HMollerCl> thanks15:31
lubot<HMollerCl> now I don't now how it can get a QProcess as input https://github.com/Chemrat/redshift-qt/blob/master/systemtray.cpp#L5415:33
wxl[m]`bool SystemTray::StartRedshift()` is where the stream is setup15:52
lubot<teward001> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @teward001 `tail /var/mail/lubuntu`], oh that's on the *host* not the phab shell itself15:53
lubot<teward001> learn specifics15:53
lubot<teward001> @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @teward001 `tail /var/mail/lubuntu`], fixed15:58
lubot<teward001> host needed the internal CA cert we use15:58
lubot<teward001> it should be working now15:58
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl: thanks needed to "_redshiftProcess->setReadChannel(QProcess::StandardError);"16:00
lubot<HMollerCl> change channel16:00
lubot<HMollerCl> redshift doesn't handle when geoclue can't get the location.... Neither redshift-gtk16:01
lubot<HMollerCl> and redshift-gtk (and th version of qt I'm forking) crashes16:02
lubot<HMollerCl> but the qt version don't say why it crashes....16:03
tsimonq2Phab is going down for maintenance.16:36
tsimonq2Well, if I could access it via SSH.16:37
tsimonq2Yeah, no.16:38
tsimonq2wxl: ^^^^16:38
tsimonq2Why is my public key being denied?16:38
wxl[m]Because you broke it? 16:39
tsimonq2Welp, I guess the root password is getting reset.16:40
* wxl[m] uploaded an image: IMG_20190821_204715_183.jpg (45KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/disroot.org/lQijXyjcDXycUIPqynNgEJfe >16:40
wxl[m]@teward001 and I both have recently been in there.. I'm afk now tho 16:41
tsimonq2Well, I guess I'll just bother teward until I get access again.16:41
tsimonq2teward: teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward 16:42
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> Welp, I guess the root password is getting reset.], um16:42
lubot<teward001> you are using 10022 right16:42
lubot<teward001> we changed the mgmt port for the host system16:42
lubot<teward001> if you missed that when I blasted you and WXL with those announcements an eon ago16:42
tsimonq2And you didn't tell me?16:42
lubot<teward001> you deserve to be slapped16:42
lubot<teward001> actually16:42
lubot<teward001> ***I DID***16:42
lubot<teward001> you just ignored it16:43
lubot<teward001> so this is your fault :P16:43
lubot<teward001> wxl even told you16:43
lubot<teward001> 22 now redirs to Phab for git16:43
lubot<teward001> 10022 is for the host system16:43
lubot<teward001> that was wxl and your choice and you OK'd it :P16:44
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wxl[m]Told you16:45
lubot<teward001> so ultimately16:46
lubot<teward001> ERR:YourFault @tsiom16:46
lubot<teward001> @tsimonq216:46
tsimonq2Phab is back.16:47
lubot<aptghetto> I guess, we can close https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/+bug/1833490 because this should be fixed with https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGScd7fa92d15410c58e80490028a508114d5ca9aec17:19
wxl@aptghetto which is the specific fix in that diff?17:27
lubot<aptghetto> `bootloaderEntryName: Ubuntu`in file `branding.desc`17:28
lubot<aptghetto> And IMO, the bug is not related to Grub217:28
wxlderp i'm not sure why i wasn't seeing it17:28
wxli went up and down that diff two times17:28
wxllook at @aptghetto doing bug triage. man, i love you.17:37
lubot<HMollerCl> I believe 19.10 will have better reviews than 19.0418:15
lubot<tsimonq2> @HMollerCl [I believe 19.10 will have better reviews than 19.04], How so? :)18:26
lubot<HMollerCl> Because we fix most of the bugs people mentioned before18:33
lubot<HMollerCl> And the beta reviews have been good18:33
lubot<tsimonq2> Cool18:45
wxldo you have examples of beta reviews?19:04
wxl^ @HMollerCl19:35
lubot<HMollerCl> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lubuntu+19.10&sp=CAI%253D19:35
lubot<HMollerCl> wxl ^19:36
wxlthank god for subtitles jeez19:37
wxlwe should send this one to everyone that complains about lightweight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOJ44XyIQRI19:42
wxldid we at least get the default xscreensaver hack in?19:43
wxl@The_LoudSpeaker ^ ?19:48
lubot<tsimonq2> @wxl [<wxl> did we at least get the default xscreensaver hack in?], Not afaik19:53
wxlwe should at least get that. should be pretty easy. i assume we can sneak one in?19:53
lubot<tsimonq2> Do so on your own accord20:00
lubot<tsimonq2> Convince Adam to let it in20:18
lubot<HMollerCl> new lxqt-globalkeys released https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/releases/tag/0.14.220:38
lubot<HMollerCl> should be the same we pull with git.20:39
lubot<HMollerCl> *pulled from20:39
wxloh yikes21:07
wxlgonna have to be quick for me21:07
ubot93standup is @tsimonq2 @lynorian @HMollerCl @aptghetto @teward001 @SamuelBanya @kc2bez @The_LoudSpeaker wxl[m] guiverc it's 2100 UTC Thursday which means it's time for the Lubuntu Development standup meeting. Please announce yourself for roll call! Afterwards, in order of announcement, post your items and be sure to mention when you're done.21:07
lubot<HMollerCl> |lIi21:07
lubot<SamuelBanya> Hi here but am working. I would just want to know if there's any support tickets needing triaging and what to test21:08
wxl@SamuelBanya as i've said before, we don't do support tickets, per se. you just check the places. we're just doing daily iso testing now, up until final testing happens. you could always do bug triage if you are so inclined.21:09
wxlanyways go @kc2bez 21:09
lubot<SamuelBanya> Fine. Any bugs that are trending?21:11
kc2bezTest all the things. Release next week ;)21:12
kc2bez* diffs pushed to phab21:12
kc2bez- https://phab.lubuntu.me/D5021:12
kc2bez- https://phab.lubuntu.me/D5121:12
kc2bez- https://phab.lubuntu.me/D5221:12
kc2bez- thanks to @tsimonq2 for uploading21:12
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Package Calamares for new upstream release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D5021:12
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Calamares is not capitalized: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D5121:12
-lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Add wallpapers to lubuntu-artwork.install: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D5221:12
wxl@SamuelBanya dig through here https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging21:12
kc2bez* uploads21:12
kc2bez-  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/3.2.14-0ubuntu221:12
kc2bez* testing21:13
kc2bez- so far I have tested new Calamares (3.2.14-0ubuntu2) in vbox for EFI installs with and without encryption. I have also done a BIOS install without encryption. all good so far21:13
wxl@SamuelBanya see also https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/ especially the latter half21:13
kc2bez* NEEDS TESTING21:13
kc2bez- geoip for those that had issues, please and thank you :)21:13
wxl@kc2bez: i saw some chatter the other day about something not working? something about having a pre-existing lvm or something???21:13
lubot<SamuelBanya> Thanks21:14
kc2bezThat was a daily21:14
wxl@kc2bez: also do we think geoip is fixed?21:14
wxl@kc2bez: but is it still an issue?21:14
wxl@SamuelBanya thank you21:14
kc2bezI do, but further testing needed21:14
wxlok cool21:14
kc2bezI don't know for sure without tests, I guess.21:15
kc2bezLots of refactoring done on the cala side21:15
kc2bezThe daily that had issues could've been just that daily not sure.21:15
wxlooh refactoring, fun21:15
wxlwhat specifically was the issue?21:16
kc2bezIf you had an installed luks system the `/cdrom/` on the live didn't have anything in it21:16
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez so geoip should be fixed?21:16
lubot<HMollerCl> Will test then21:16
wxl^^^ there's something you could test on the daily iso @SamuelBanya21:17
wxldo we have a bug for that?21:17
kc2bezIF it fails to install a reboot with the live `/cdrom/` was populated again21:17
kc2bezReally strange21:18
kc2bezInstall worked next time around21:18
kc2bezThat is all I have this week.21:19
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez now I only see 1 calamares shortcut21:19
lubot<HMollerCl> is it fixed then?21:19
lubot<HMollerCl> I mean, 1 calamares .desktop21:19
kc2bezIn the menu?21:19
lubot<HMollerCl> yes21:19
lubot<SamuelBanya> So is it a cala, or /cdrom issue?21:19
wxl@SamuelBanya presumedly Cala since Ubiquity folks weren't having the problem.21:20
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez but I  only installed calamares in my system, no live. But previously I saw 2 .desktops in the menu21:20
kc2bezCheck in live I bet you see 221:20
lubot<SamuelBanya> So in terms of testing that cala issue, basically a successful install would mean it's not an issue then right?21:21
kc2bezNot sure wxl it may be the way the squash is made. Ubiquity doesn't install straight luks like we do they use lvm21:21
lubot<SamuelBanya> So do an installation in virtual box with UEFI?21:21
wxl@SamuelBanya correct21:21
wxl@kc2bez: either way the first step will be replicating it21:22
wxlif we can, we need a bug for it21:22
lubot<SamuelBanya> Gotcha ok. I'm fixing my main desktop later for Debian but I can try an installation later for the latest daily image for Lubuntu21:22
kc2bezNote the new cala isn't on the latest daily you need to upgrade to it.21:22
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Note the new cala isn't on the latest daily you need to upgrade to it.], but it will be on tomorrow daily?21:22
kc2bezI would think so, yes.21:23
kc2bezI actually haven't checked in a few hours21:23
wxl@SamuelBanya and remember the issue is you need a previous installation with luks to get the failure on the next install21:23
wxl!info calamares eoan21:23
ubot93calamares (3.2.14-0ubuntu2, eoan): distribution-independent installer framework. In component universe, is optional. Built by calamares. Size 2,650 kB / 7,296 kB. (Only available for linux-any.)21:23
lubot<SamuelBanya> What is luks21:24
lubot<SamuelBanya> Ah gotcha21:24
wxlyou owe me a coke21:24
* kc2bez slides wxl a coke21:24
lubot<N0um3n0> @SamuelBanya [What is luks], https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Unified_Key_Setup21:24
guiverc2((prior mentioned "need bug for it" - is it 1847378))21:25
lubot<SamuelBanya> So you install it on the first pass with luks encryption and then reinstall another time?21:25
wxlbug 184737821:25
ubot93Bug 1847378 in calamares (Ubuntu) "lubuntu 19.10 encrypt install bad unsquash configuration - filesystem.squashfs does not exist" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184737821:25
lubot<lynorian> I21:26
lubot<lynorian> o\21:26
kc2bezAny other questions for me?21:26
wxlcurrent daily has 3.2.14-0ubuntu221:27
wxl`wget --quiet -O - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/eoan-desktop-amd64.manifest | grep calamares`21:27
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez did you saw the vide in off-topic?21:27
lubot<HMollerCl> XD21:27
kc2bezI will check it out21:27
kc2bezThanks wxl I just hadn't checked in a bit.21:28
wxl@kc2bez: one last one: is that bug above the right one?21:28
kc2bezguiverc filed it21:28
wxlok so @SamuelBanya if you could report your results on that bug, it would be most appreciated21:28
kc2bezI don't have the geoip one handy but there is one for that too.21:29
wxlok great work dan and and chris and thanks for the help samuel.. off to hans21:29
kc2bezbug 184542421:29
ubot93Bug 1845424 in calamares (Ubuntu) "Calamares not selecting correct timezone when connected to internet" [Undecided, Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184542421:29
lubot<HMollerCl> @SamuelBanya are you in NY timezone?21:29
wxli've got about 10m left21:30
lubot<SamuelBanya> Not anymore. I'm in central now21:30
lubot<SamuelBanya> Time zone21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> ok, then you can test that calamares timezone bug too.21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> @SamuelBanya ^21:30
lubot<HMollerCl> so, o big news on my side21:31
lubot<HMollerCl> mostly testimng lxq-globalkeys21:31
lubot<HMollerCl> and now I'm looking at redshiftt-qt21:31
lubot<HMollerCl> will package that soon, just forked it because I wanted some changes.21:32
lubot<HMollerCl> EOF21:32
wxlpresumedly you're pushing those changes upstream?21:33
lubot<HMollerCl> that's mi idea21:35
lubot<HMollerCl> *my21:35
wxlgood work21:35
ubot93Factoid '!!!' not found21:35
lubot<HMollerCl> But I believe that some won't be accepted21:35
wxlyou'll probably beat me to getting the compton fork into debian :/21:35
wxlanyways... next??? lyn?21:36
lubot<lynorian> I don't have a paste but I fixed so many typos including one really consistant one Of not capitilizing How to Launch21:38
wxlhey, consistency is good, right? :)21:38
lubot<lynorian> yes and reworded several small things in PulseAudio Volume Control21:39
wxlgiven that you're working on typos it sounds like you've gone a long way to really completely cover documenting the entire distro.. and with that, i give you a standing ovation. for real.21:39
lubot<lynorian> Oh and some new features added to nm-tray21:39
guiverc2the manual is TERRIFIC lynorian 21:39
kc2bezIt truly is. 21:39
lubot<lynorian> Also do we have the final wallpaper and stuff uploaded for final screenshots21:40
* kc2bez crosses fingers21:40
lubot<lynorian> Also Can't really do the final hashes until right before distro release21:40
kc2bezshould be in today's daily21:40
wxli think that stuff is up.. i guess someone needs to test it and be sure21:40
wxl!info lubuntu-artwork eoan21:40
ubot93lubuntu-artwork (19.10.3, eoan): artwork for Lubuntu. In component universe, is optional. Built by lubuntu-artwork. Size 34,310 kB / 37,995 kB21:40
wxl^ that's what's in today's daily21:41
kc2bezit landed but Hans mentioned something about it still being the old one21:41
wxlthat might have been yesterday's daily, though21:41
wxlthey build kind of late21:41
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez there is the new one21:41
lubot<HMollerCl> the wallpaper I mean21:41
kc2bezon the daily?21:42
wxlyou can run `strings` on the iso and it should show you the version of the iso21:42
guiverc2I'll grab & look at daily; but may need prompting to remember to report if I don't see it  (if I see changed wallpaper that will likely be my prompt)21:42
lubot<HMollerCl> The things is that in an update it won't appear right away21:42
wxlok i need to go folks, but i haven't done much but grease the wheels.. life's been a little nutty on my end. please harass me if you need me.21:42
kc2bezthe default should be a symlink21:42
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> on the daily?], @not sure if it is in the daily, but it is in the repo21:42
wxlgreat job, everyone. we couldn't do it without you. you're all awesome!!!!!21:42
kc2bezthanks for all you do wxl 21:43
lubot<lynorian> Although I don't see a way for something I might want to add for tips and tricks for how to not have default sound switch to hdmi if you turn off your html monitor to default audio device21:43
lubot<HMollerCl> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> the default should be a symlink], yes a .jpg and a .png21:43
lubot<HMollerCl> and we need weblate @N0um3n0 @teward00121:43
kc2bezit needs some eyeballs21:43
lubot<HMollerCl> for translating the manual21:44
lubot<HMollerCl> there appear to be an army wanting to translate the manual in spanish21:44
lubot<N0um3n0> @HMollerCl [and we need weblate @N0um3n0 @teward001], we have been talking and as soon as @teward001 starts it up, I will put the manual to translate.21:45
lubot<N0um3n0> @HMollerCl [there appear to be an army wanting to translate the manual in spanish], right21:46
lubot<HMollerCl> someone else?21:48
kc2bezThat might be it. 21:53
guiverc2i got nothun to say; blank mind as usual..21:53
kc2bezThanks for all the testing guiverc2 21:53
kc2bezThanks to everyone else too. 21:54
guiverc2thank you all, and thank you Dan21:54
lubot<N0um3n0> thanks to you who do all the work of lubuntu21:56
guiverc2also good news I saw last night - VLC should work on live :)21:56
kc2bezToday's daily! \o/ https://share.riseup.net/#tpaYfCqWx7BST6G_QJmWFw22:05
lubot<N0um3n0> good22:06
guiverc2given change on 1833490 (lubu grub-install puts efi in wrong..) - does much of https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/ need blanking?22:06
kc2bezNot sure guiverc2 I thought that was more of a "install alongside" issue but upgrades might be impacted too.22:09
guiverc2New wallpaper on 19.10 daily LIVE :)23:03
guiverc2VLC opens too :)23:03
lubot<kc2bez> Fantastic!!!23:04
kc2bezUH OH! We have an issue with EFI installs! Can someone confirm?23:30
guiverc2kc2bez, I'll let my current install complete (bios), so can but it'll be awhile..23:31
kc2bezThanks. guiverc223:32
guiverc2(it just completed --- looking for my ultracrap thingy)23:33
guiverc2Likely what you feared kc2bez:  Installation Failed.   Command apt install -y ...   (didn't diff with your riseup, but sure looks like it)23:40
guiverc2do you want a bug report?  or is it an old one?  or you've got one?23:41
kc2bezIt needs a bug report, i haven't done that.23:41
kc2bezI am trying without internet now.23:41
guiverc2I'll start doing...23:42
guiverc2fyi: I did without internet too23:42
kc2bezwxl[m]: @tsimonq2 See above ^^23:42
guiverc2after report made, want me to re-try with internet? kc2bez 23:42
kc2bezSure, it can't hurt.23:43
guiverc2launchpad keeps having oops... i'll give it some time.. (maybe a delay for lp bug report)23:50
guiverc2nope, it heard me... lp 184770023:51
ubot93Launchpad bug 1847700 in calamares (Ubuntu) "lubuntu 19.10 EFI install failed -- held broken packages 2019-10-10 daily" [Undecided, New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/184770023:51
kc2bezWonder if it should be against grub since that is what it can't install? Looks like changes today too http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/grub2/grub2_2.04-1ubuntu11/changelog23:56
guiverc2sorry I didn't realize (grub) or consider.. change it.. btw my BIOS install had black GRUB screen post-install (not pretty blue Lubuntu logo) - an issue or clue?23:59

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