 @tsimonq2 D49 abandoned?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [@tsimonq2 D49 abandoned?], Already uploaded
 👍🏻
 checked shortcuts, works great. Finally!
 also, lubuntu-grub-theme is not installed by default? It should get installed with lubuntu-artwork right?
 @tsimonq2 wxl
 @The_LoudSpeaker [also, lubuntu-grub-theme is not installed by default? It should get installed wi …], Probably just in the metapackage
 ?
 The seed
[03:00] <wxl[m]> Did both the seed and Lubuntu-meta get updated? 
 No
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> Did both the seed and Lubuntu-meta get updated?], say like this always. don't talk in riddles @tsimonq2
[03:01] <wxl[m]> There ya go @The_LoudSpeaker 😂
 when does seed gets updated?
[03:01] <wxl[m]> He doesn't talk in riddles, just half sentences
[03:01] <wxl[m]> When you update it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 also, it's in the latest live. I mean not installed by default. but I can install it by apt install lubuntu-grub-theme. I don't need to add my ppa.
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> When you update it 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣], yeah. send instructions. I am free for next 2 hours.
[03:02] <wxl[m]> Right the package is in the archives
[03:02] <wxl[m]> rSEED
[03:03] <wxl[m]> rLUBUNTUMETA
[03:03] <wxl[m]> In that order
 oh. so what do I do to https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/seed/ ?
[03:04] <wxl[m]> See the latter's README for instructions on how to deal with it
 oh. okay
[03:08] <wxl[m]> Read the files and their titles and they should explain themselves. Ask if it doesn't make sense
[03:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> sure.
[03:19] <wxl> sorry rLUBUNTUMETAPACKAGING
[03:31] <wxl> @teward001 i just happened to be on the shell and it saw some mail come in for lubuntu from cron. it's trying to run update.posts on the blog and there's a cert failure on https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/blog/.git … any ideas?
[06:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALc2acc5897876: Remove uneeded whitespace] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALc2acc5897876
[06:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe68565296b71: Remove confusing phrase] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe68565296b71
[06:24] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL80a1ed3a1420: Minorly reword searching for files] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL80a1ed3a1420
[06:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL8f4ff94f3037: Add ark prop screenshot] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL8f4ff94f3037
[06:47] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL736d227ad16f: Add archive name field] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL736d227ad16f
[06:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL01a16e1f2101: Add Archive type field] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL01a16e1f2101
[06:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL20e7a42423c3: Add Mime-type to ark-properties] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL20e7a42423c3
 lubuntu-artwork landed
 and plymouth-logo*
 Nice!
 not sure if some manual config will be necesary, specially for wallpaper
 @HMollerCl [not sure if some manual config will be necesary, specially for wallpaper], Oh?
 The new wallpaper shoul be in teh re right?
 Yes
 so, in an upgrade I don't see it automatically changed
 The new wallpaper woul need to be chosen manually
 Did you log out and back in?
 Or try a fresh daily?
 neither
 (Or an upgrade from 19.04? :) )
 Give them a try
 Should be good
 upgrade from 19.04 but I should logout/in
 Since I haven't changed the default wallpaper that could work
 @HMollerCl [Since I haven't changed the default wallpaper that could work], It should
 question asside, do you know where I can get info on how stream(QProcess) works in c++ ?
 Not sure.
 https://github.com/Chemrat/redshift-qt/blob/master/systemtray.cpp#L54
 how this works, it only readds stout, I would like to read stderr also
 @wxl [<wxl> @teward001 i just happened to be on the shell and it saw some mail come in …], would need the exact error(s).  Probably complaining about SSL certs because something doesn't have a cert, but I need the full error message.
[15:02] <wxl[m]> @teward001 `tail /var/mail/lubuntu`
[15:03] <wxl[m]> @HMollerCl https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qprocess.html#details
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @HMollerCl https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qprocess.html#details], but I found no mention of a stream() function there.
 wxl[m]: in which shell?  phab?
[15:24] <wxl[m]> @HMollerCl isn't that an instantiation of `QTextStream`? (see `stream.readLine()`) https://doc.qt.io/qt-5/qtextstream.html 
[15:25] <wxl[m]> @teward001 yeah
 wxl: yeah, taht should be
 thanks
 now I don't now how it can get a QProcess as input https://github.com/Chemrat/redshift-qt/blob/master/systemtray.cpp#L54
[15:52] <wxl[m]> `bool SystemTray::StartRedshift()` is where the stream is setup
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @teward001 `tail /var/mail/lubuntu`], oh that's on the *host* not the phab shell itself
 learn specifics
 @wxl[m] [<wxl[m]> @teward001 `tail /var/mail/lubuntu`], fixed
 host needed the internal CA cert we use
 it should be working now
 wxl: thanks needed to "_redshiftProcess->setReadChannel(QProcess::StandardError);"
 change channel
 redshift doesn't handle when geoclue can't get the location.... Neither redshift-gtk
 and redshift-gtk (and th version of qt I'm forking) crashes
 but the qt version don't say why it crashes....
[16:36] <tsimonq2> Phab is going down for maintenance.
[16:37] <tsimonq2> Well, if I could access it via SSH.
[16:38] <tsimonq2> Yeah, no.
[16:38] <tsimonq2> wxl: ^^^^
[16:38] <tsimonq2> Why is my public key being denied?
[16:39] <wxl[m]> Because you broke it? 
[16:39] <tsimonq2> ???
[16:40] <tsimonq2> Welp, I guess the root password is getting reset.
[16:40]  * wxl[m] uploaded an image: IMG_20190821_204715_183.jpg (45KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/disroot.org/lQijXyjcDXycUIPqynNgEJfe >
[16:41] <wxl[m]> @teward001 and I both have recently been in there.. I'm afk now tho 
[16:41] <tsimonq2> Well, I guess I'll just bother teward until I get access again.
[16:42] <tsimonq2> teward: teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward teward 
 @tsimonq2 [<tsimonq2> Welp, I guess the root password is getting reset.], um
 you are using 10022 right
 we changed the mgmt port for the host system
 if you missed that when I blasted you and WXL with those announcements an eon ago
[16:42] <tsimonq2> And you didn't tell me?
 you deserve to be slapped
 actually
 ***I DID***
 you just ignored it
 so this is your fault :P
 wxl even told you
[16:43] <tsimonq2> Blergh.
 22 now redirs to Phab for git
 10022 is for the host system
 that was wxl and your choice and you OK'd it :P
[16:44] <tsimonq2> hmm
[16:45] <wxl[m]> Told you
 so ultimately
 ERR:YourFault @tsiom
 @tsimonq2
[16:47] <tsimonq2> Phab is back.
 I guess, we can close https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/+bug/1833490 because this should be fixed with https://phab.lubuntu.me/rCALASETTINGScd7fa92d15410c58e80490028a508114d5ca9aec
[17:27] <wxl> @aptghetto which is the specific fix in that diff?
 `bootloaderEntryName: Ubuntu`in file `branding.desc`
 And IMO, the bug is not related to Grub2
[17:28] <wxl> derp i'm not sure why i wasn't seeing it
[17:28] <wxl> i went up and down that diff two times
[17:37] <wxl> look at @aptghetto doing bug triage. man, i love you.
 I believe 19.10 will have better reviews than 19.04
 @HMollerCl [I believe 19.10 will have better reviews than 19.04], How so? :)
 Because we fix most of the bugs people mentioned before
 And the beta reviews have been good
 Cool
[19:04] <wxl> do you have examples of beta reviews?
[19:35] <wxl> ^ @HMollerCl
 https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lubuntu+19.10&sp=CAI%253D
 wxl ^
[19:37] <wxl> thank god for subtitles jeez
[19:42] <wxl> we should send this one to everyone that complains about lightweight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOJ44XyIQRI
[19:43] <wxl> did we at least get the default xscreensaver hack in?
[19:48] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker ^ ?
 @wxl [<wxl> did we at least get the default xscreensaver hack in?], Not afaik
[19:53] <wxl> we should at least get that. should be pretty easy. i assume we can sneak one in?
 Do so on your own accord
[20:11] <wxl> um
 Convince Adam to let it in
 new lxqt-globalkeys released https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-globalkeys/releases/tag/0.14.2
 should be the same we pull with git.
 *pulled from
[21:06] <kc2bez> standup?
[21:07] <wxl> oh yikes
[21:07] <wxl> gonna have to be quick for me
[21:07] <wxl> !standup
[21:07] <kc2bez> o/
 |lIi
 Hi here but am working. I would just want to know if there's any support tickets needing triaging and what to test
[21:09] <wxl> @SamuelBanya as i've said before, we don't do support tickets, per se. you just check the places. we're just doing daily iso testing now, up until final testing happens. you could always do bug triage if you are so inclined.
[21:09] <wxl> anyways go @kc2bez 
 Fine. Any bugs that are trending?
[21:12] <kc2bez> Test all the things. Release next week ;)
[21:12] <kc2bez> * diffs pushed to phab
[21:12] <kc2bez> - https://phab.lubuntu.me/D50
[21:12] <kc2bez> - https://phab.lubuntu.me/D51
[21:12] <kc2bez> - https://phab.lubuntu.me/D52
[21:12] <kc2bez> - thanks to @tsimonq2 for uploading
[21:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Package Calamares for new upstream release: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D50
[21:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Calamares is not capitalized: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D51
[21:12] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Closed] Add wallpapers to lubuntu-artwork.install: https://phab.lubuntu.me/D52
[21:12] <wxl> @SamuelBanya dig through here https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging
[21:12] <kc2bez> * uploads
[21:12] <kc2bez> -  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/3.2.14-0ubuntu2
[21:13] <kc2bez> * testing
[21:13] <kc2bez> - so far I have tested new Calamares (3.2.14-0ubuntu2) in vbox for EFI installs with and without encryption. I have also done a BIOS install without encryption. all good so far
[21:13] <wxl> @SamuelBanya see also https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/bugs/ especially the latter half
[21:13] <kc2bez> * NEEDS TESTING
[21:13] <kc2bez> - geoip for those that had issues, please and thank you :)
[21:13] <wxl> @kc2bez: i saw some chatter the other day about something not working? something about having a pre-existing lvm or something???
 Thanks
[21:14] <kc2bez> That was a daily
[21:14] <wxl> @kc2bez: also do we think geoip is fixed?
[21:14] <wxl> @kc2bez: but is it still an issue?
[21:14] <wxl> @SamuelBanya thank you
[21:14] <kc2bez> I do, but further testing needed
[21:14] <wxl> ok cool
[21:15] <kc2bez> I don't know for sure without tests, I guess.
[21:15] <kc2bez> Lots of refactoring done on the cala side
[21:15] <kc2bez> The daily that had issues could've been just that daily not sure.
[21:15] <wxl> ooh refactoring, fun
[21:16] <wxl> what specifically was the issue?
[21:16] <kc2bez> If you had an installed luks system the `/cdrom/` on the live didn't have anything in it
 @kc2bez so geoip should be fixed?
 Will test then
[21:16] <kc2bez> E:NOFILESTOCOPY
[21:17] <wxl> ^^^ there's something you could test on the daily iso @SamuelBanya
[21:17] <wxl> do we have a bug for that?
[21:17] <kc2bez> IF it fails to install a reboot with the live `/cdrom/` was populated again
[21:18] <kc2bez> Really strange
[21:18] <kc2bez> Install worked next time around
[21:19] <kc2bez> That is all I have this week.
 @kc2bez now I only see 1 calamares shortcut
 is it fixed then?
 I mean, 1 calamares .desktop
[21:19] <kc2bez> In the menu?
 yes
 So is it a cala, or /cdrom issue?
[21:20] <wxl> @SamuelBanya presumedly Cala since Ubiquity folks weren't having the problem.
 @kc2bez but I  only installed calamares in my system, no live. But previously I saw 2 .desktops in the menu
[21:20] <kc2bez> Check in live I bet you see 2
 So in terms of testing that cala issue, basically a successful install would mean it's not an issue then right?
[21:21] <kc2bez> Not sure wxl it may be the way the squash is made. Ubiquity doesn't install straight luks like we do they use lvm
 So do an installation in virtual box with UEFI?
[21:21] <wxl> @SamuelBanya correct
[21:22] <wxl> @kc2bez: either way the first step will be replicating it
[21:22] <wxl> if we can, we need a bug for it
 Gotcha ok. I'm fixing my main desktop later for Debian but I can try an installation later for the latest daily image for Lubuntu
[21:22] <kc2bez> Note the new cala isn't on the latest daily you need to upgrade to it.
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> Note the new cala isn't on the latest daily you need to upgrade to it.], but it will be on tomorrow daily?
[21:23] <kc2bez> I would think so, yes.
[21:23] <kc2bez> I actually haven't checked in a few hours
[21:23] <wxl> @SamuelBanya and remember the issue is you need a previous installation with luks to get the failure on the next install
[21:23] <wxl> !info calamares eoan
 What is luks
[21:24] <kc2bez> encryption
[21:24] <wxl> encryption
[21:24] <kc2bez> jinx
 Ah gotcha
[21:24] <wxl> you owe me a coke
[21:24] <kc2bez> :D
[21:24]  * kc2bez slides wxl a coke
 @SamuelBanya [What is luks], https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_Unified_Key_Setup
[21:25] <guiverc2> ((prior mentioned "need bug for it" - is it 1847378))
 So you install it on the first pass with luks encryption and then reinstall another time?
[21:25] <kc2bez> yes
[21:25] <wxl> bug 1847378
 I
 o\
[21:26] <kc2bez> Any other questions for me?
[21:27] <wxl> current daily has 3.2.14-0ubuntu2
[21:27] <wxl> `wget --quiet -O - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/eoan-desktop-amd64.manifest | grep calamares`
 @kc2bez did you saw the vide in off-topic?
 XD
[21:27] <kc2bez> I will check it out
[21:28] <kc2bez> Thanks wxl I just hadn't checked in a bit.
[21:28] <wxl> @kc2bez: one last one: is that bug above the right one?
[21:28] <kc2bez> Yes
[21:28] <kc2bez> guiverc filed it
[21:28] <wxl> ok so @SamuelBanya if you could report your results on that bug, it would be most appreciated
[21:29] <kc2bez> I don't have the geoip one handy but there is one for that too.
[21:29] <wxl> ok great work dan and and chris and thanks for the help samuel.. off to hans
[21:29] <kc2bez> bug 1845424
 @SamuelBanya are you in NY timezone?
[21:30] <wxl> i've got about 10m left
 Not anymore. I'm in central now
 Time zone
 ok, then you can test that calamares timezone bug too.
 @SamuelBanya ^
 so, o big news on my side
 mostly testimng lxq-globalkeys
 and now I'm looking at redshiftt-qt
 will package that soon, just forked it because I wanted some changes.
 EOF
[21:33] <wxl> presumedly you're pushing those changes upstream?
 that's mi idea
 *my
[21:35] <wxl> good work
[21:35] <wxl> !!!!
 But I believe that some won't be accepted
[21:35] <wxl> you'll probably beat me to getting the compton fork into debian :/
[21:36] <wxl> anyways... next??? lyn?
 I don't have a paste but I fixed so many typos including one really consistant one Of not capitilizing How to Launch
[21:38] <wxl> hey, consistency is good, right? :)
 yes and reworded several small things in PulseAudio Volume Control
[21:39] <wxl> given that you're working on typos it sounds like you've gone a long way to really completely cover documenting the entire distro.. and with that, i give you a standing ovation. for real.
 Oh and some new features added to nm-tray
[21:39] <guiverc2> the manual is TERRIFIC lynorian 
[21:39] <kc2bez> It truly is. 
 Also do we have the final wallpaper and stuff uploaded for final screenshots
[21:40]  * kc2bez crosses fingers
 Also Can't really do the final hashes until right before distro release
[21:40] <kc2bez> should be in today's daily
[21:40] <wxl> i think that stuff is up.. i guess someone needs to test it and be sure
[21:40] <wxl> !info lubuntu-artwork eoan
[21:41] <wxl> ^ that's what's in today's daily
[21:41] <kc2bez> it landed but Hans mentioned something about it still being the old one
[21:41] <wxl> that might have been yesterday's daily, though
[21:41] <wxl> they build kind of late
 @kc2bez there is the new one
 the wallpaper I mean
[21:42] <kc2bez> on the daily?
[21:42] <wxl> you can run `strings` on the iso and it should show you the version of the iso
[21:42] <guiverc2> I'll grab & look at daily; but may need prompting to remember to report if I don't see it  (if I see changed wallpaper that will likely be my prompt)
 The things is that in an update it won't appear right away
[21:42] <wxl> ok i need to go folks, but i haven't done much but grease the wheels.. life's been a little nutty on my end. please harass me if you need me.
[21:42] <kc2bez> the default should be a symlink
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> on the daily?], @not sure if it is in the daily, but it is in the repo
[21:42] <wxl> great job, everyone. we couldn't do it without you. you're all awesome!!!!!
[21:43] <kc2bez> thanks for all you do wxl 
 Although I don't see a way for something I might want to add for tips and tricks for how to not have default sound switch to hdmi if you turn off your html monitor to default audio device
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> the default should be a symlink], yes a .jpg and a .png
 and we need weblate @N0um3n0 @teward001
[21:43] <kc2bez> it needs some eyeballs
 for translating the manual
 there appear to be an army wanting to translate the manual in spanish
 @HMollerCl [and we need weblate @N0um3n0 @teward001], we have been talking and as soon as @teward001 starts it up, I will put the manual to translate.
 @HMollerCl [there appear to be an army wanting to translate the manual in spanish], right
 someone else?
[21:53] <kc2bez> That might be it. 
[21:53] <guiverc2> i got nothun to say; blank mind as usual..
[21:53] <kc2bez> Thanks for all the testing guiverc2 
[21:54] <kc2bez> Thanks to everyone else too. 
[21:54] <guiverc2> thank you all, and thank you Dan
 thanks to you who do all the work of lubuntu
[21:56] <guiverc2> also good news I saw last night - VLC should work on live :)
[22:05] <kc2bez> Today's daily! \o/ https://share.riseup.net/#tpaYfCqWx7BST6G_QJmWFw
 good
[22:06] <guiverc2> given change on 1833490 (lubu grub-install puts efi in wrong..) - does much of https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/ need blanking?
[22:09] <kc2bez> Not sure guiverc2 I thought that was more of a "install alongside" issue but upgrades might be impacted too.
[23:03] <guiverc2> New wallpaper on 19.10 daily LIVE :)
[23:03] <guiverc2> VLC opens too :)
 Fantastic!!!
[23:30] <kc2bez> UH OH! We have an issue with EFI installs! Can someone confirm?
[23:31] <kc2bez> https://share.riseup.net/#qX3sjh1OqLVCHZdgqPNKdg
[23:31] <guiverc2> kc2bez, I'll let my current install complete (bios), so can but it'll be awhile..
[23:32] <kc2bez> Thanks. guiverc2
[23:33] <guiverc2> (it just completed --- looking for my ultracrap thingy)
[23:40] <guiverc2> Likely what you feared kc2bez:  Installation Failed.   Command apt install -y ...   (didn't diff with your riseup, but sure looks like it)
[23:41] <guiverc2> do you want a bug report?  or is it an old one?  or you've got one?
[23:41] <kc2bez> It needs a bug report, i haven't done that.
[23:41] <kc2bez> I am trying without internet now.
[23:42] <guiverc2> I'll start doing...
[23:42] <guiverc2> fyi: I did without internet too
[23:42] <kc2bez> wxl[m]: @tsimonq2 See above ^^
[23:42] <kc2bez> oof
[23:42] <guiverc2> after report made, want me to re-try with internet? kc2bez 
[23:43] <kc2bez> Sure, it can't hurt.
[23:50] <guiverc2> launchpad keeps having oops... i'll give it some time.. (maybe a delay for lp bug report)
[23:51] <guiverc2> nope, it heard me... lp 1847700
[23:56] <kc2bez> Wonder if it should be against grub since that is what it can't install? Looks like changes today too http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/g/grub2/grub2_2.04-1ubuntu11/changelog
[23:59] <guiverc2> sorry I didn't realize (grub) or consider.. change it.. btw my BIOS install had black GRUB screen post-install (not pretty blue Lubuntu logo) - an issue or clue?