[00:00] <sarnold> black_: I'm not 100% sure what to suggest about the cap sys_admin deniel. that's outside the sandbox profile, it might *real* root, rather than just a "namespace" root.
[00:02] <sarnold> black_: I think you could address that by adding: "capability sys_admin," to /etc/apparmor.d/local/usr.bin.chromium-browser
[00:04] <black_> sarnold, how to I add the capability?
[00:04] <sarnold> black_: your favourite text editor
[00:04] <black_> I think it's already there
[00:05] <sarnold> it's in the child profile chromium_browser_sandbox
[00:05] <sarnold> (at least in the one I'm viewing)
[00:06] <sarnold> but that DENIED line shows it coming from the main profile: profile="/usr/lib/chromium-browser/chromium-browser"
[00:06] <black_> thanks, it looks like I"m already there. right now I just need chromium working; I'll check again on reboot
[00:07] <black_> thanks again for your help
[00:08] <sarnold> black_: you're welcome, good luck :
[00:08] <sarnold> :)
[00:09] <black_> gb
[00:12] <Bashing-om> texla: Verify the paths ? 'sudo echo $PATH' - is the target in the paths ?
[01:02] <MannyL> Strange problem here. I have a PC that is dual booting Ubuntuc 19.04 and Windows 10. Two days ago when I last used it I could boot into either OS fine. Now the systems boot but just after the sign in screen the screen goes out with loss of signal. I don't think it is the screen because if I boot with an Ubuntu Live CD it works fine and also if I switch to another PC I have using Ubuntu. I am able to alt-f2 to another console
[01:02] <MannyL> and do a cli logon with no issue. Any ideas?
[01:07] <MannyL> brb swithing to other pc
[01:19] <helpp> he e1-id like to know if watching netflix via firefox v 69.0.2 (64-bit) should be an issue found alot of posts on google but not having luck getting it running
[01:20] <helpp> have tried in safe mode also
[01:21] <sarnold> are you getting errors? (I haven't got a clue if it is expected to work, but if you get an error message, at least that's something concrete :)
[01:21] <OerHeks> drm enable and addons check https://itsfoss.com/netflix-firefox-linux/
[01:23] <OerHeks> if you choose a vpn or proxy, not sure we can help
[01:23] <helpp> error code i get is Error code: F7701-1003 will have a look at link now OerHeks
[01:23] <helpp> i have not
[01:23] <helpp> vpn not on
[01:23] <helpp> nor is proxy
[01:26] <OerHeks> make sure you have the latest FF 69.0.2 , else i have no clue
[01:27] <helpp> im missing shockwaveflash
[01:36] <helpp> ok so i got it in the end i had to install shockwave change settings to remember history and change the content settings to 'standard' thanks to all for your suggestions
[01:36] <ponyrider> omg shockwave wow
[01:36] <helpp> shockwave aka flash
[01:36] <OerHeks> have fun!
[01:36] <OerHeks> widevine
[01:37] <OerHeks> some mono hack, iirc
[01:37] <helpp> wide vine was there prior
[01:43] <helpp> ponyrider, is shockwave real old or something?
[01:48] <sarnold> helpp: it was hugely popular in 1995 .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Shockwave
[01:49] <ponyrider> why do you need shockwave anyway?
[01:50] <helpp> to fire up netflix and get it to play
[03:09] <RadSurfer_> How do I install Skype on Ubuntu Studio please?
[03:11] <OerHeks> RadSurfer_, install the skype snap
[03:11] <OerHeks> https://snapcraft.io/skype or via softwarecenter
[03:13] <RadSurfer_> what softwarecenter?
[03:16] <RadSurfer_> thanks...
[03:17] <subone> Is there any way I can add the checkmark icon to files in nautilus, like dropbox does, but with my rsync script?
[03:59] <Fifty> Ey folks, got a wee bit of a problem.
[03:59] <Fifty> Was following this guide for setting up 2FA: https://tutorials.ubuntu.com/tutorial/configure-ssh-2fa#0
[03:59] <Fifty> But now I cannae log into my accounts, both my root and sudo accounts get "Access denied", when trying to log in with their passwords.
[04:00] <Fifty> Re-ran google-authenticator, double checked all the settings, all went fine.
[04:00] <Fifty> Just won't let me login for some reason.
[04:19] <ponyrider> Fifty: there is a PermitRootLogin setting in sshd
[04:19] <Fifty> Oh my, I'll give that a try.
[04:19] <ponyrider> Fifty: the default is ProhibitPassword, but maybe try chaning to yes
[04:20] <ponyrider> dont forget to systemctl restart sshd
[04:20] <ponyrider> Fifty: also what does $ journalctl -eu sshd
[04:20] <ponyrider> say
[04:21] <Fifty> I'll paste it, gimme a sec. Not finding PermitRootLogin in the SSHD text file
[04:21] <Fifty> It says "--- No entries ---"
[04:22] <Fifty> With a large block of empty space before it.
[04:22] <ponyrider> set LogLevel INFO
[04:22] <ponyrider> in the sshd_config
[04:22] <Fifty> Here's a screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/V6KKyYN.png
[04:22] <Fifty> Righty, I'll do that the now
[04:23] <Fifty> That setting isn't present either, in sshd_config
[04:23] <ponyrider> i am on a different distro right now but i am positive it will work
[04:24] <Fifty> Gotcha, sorry if I'm noob at this
[04:24] <Fifty> Total novice to Linux, using Ubuntu for a server to mess around with
[04:25] <Fifty> The log has the same output.
[04:25] <Fifty> "--- No entries ---"
[04:25] <ponyrider> systemctl status sshd
[04:28] <Fifty> https://i.imgur.com/pZyZQNG.png
[04:28] <Fifty> Below that are the connections I made to my server.
[04:29] <Fifty> "Received disconnect from some.external.ip port 55200:11 Bye Bye [preauth]"
[04:30] <Fifty> As well as "Failed password for root from some.external.ip port 46602 [preauth]"
[04:31] <ponyrider> !ix
[04:31] <ponyrider> !paste
[04:32] <ponyrider> Fifty: just to be clear: your are only being denied access as root?
[04:33] <Fifty> Correct.
[04:33] <Fifty> I can log in with my sudo account
[04:33] <Fifty> I added "PermitRootLogin yes" to the bottom of /etc/ssh/sshd
[04:33] <Fifty> Then restarted sshd again
[04:33] <Fifty> No dice
[04:34] <kinghat> anyone get this from the docker repo?:
[04:34] <kinghat> Fatal error: E: Repository 'https://download.docker.com/linux/ubuntu bionic InRelease' changed its 'Label' value from 'Docker CE' to 'Docker EE'
[04:36] <Fifty> ponyrider Trying again to log in with my sudo account. It works with WinSCP, but not PuTTY. Odd
[04:36] <Fifty> It was working a minute ago.
[04:36] <ponyrider> sshd_config right?
[04:37] <Fifty> Oh, I added it to just sshd
[04:37] <ponyrider> its needs to be sshd_config
[04:37] <Fifty> Aye "PermitRootLogin yes" is already added
[04:38] <Fifty> Aaah, okay, I wasn't able to login with my sudo account because I added "PermitRootLogins yes" to sshd.
[04:38] <Fifty> So I can log in with my sudo account. But not my root.
[04:39] <ponyrider> the screenshot you posted before was for ssh.service not sshd.service
[04:39] <Fifty> My apologies.
[04:40] <Fifty> I made sure to type sshd.service but it still only shows the log for SSH
[04:40] <Fifty> Hmm.
[04:40] <Fifty> I think I might be missing something then.
[04:41] <ponyrider> systemctl start sshd
[04:41] <ponyrider> unless this is a quirk of ubuntu...
[04:43] <Fifty> Wouldn't be surprised. Hetzner only offers minimal Ubuntu 19.04, so it's probably lacking something.
[04:43] <amosbird> Hello, is there any tool that can create a fancy effect on the screen when CapsLock is active?
[04:43] <Fifty> Here's the log: https://i.imgur.com/vPJWhq7.png
[04:43] <Fifty> Also, I'm not getting asked for 2FA stuff when I login through my sudo account.
[04:43] <ponyrider> !paste
[04:44] <ponyrider> im not sure ...
[04:45] <Fifty> Yeah this is odd
[04:45] <Fifty> I'll poke around. Thanks for the help so far.
[04:46] <ponyrider> Fifty: at least you can login with your sudo account. thats pretty much problem solved
[04:47] <Fifty> Aye, but I would like to get this working for my root.
[04:47] <Fifty> I use root for managing the important stuff, with sudo users running the programs
[04:48] <ponyrider> Fifty: try adding the option: usePAM yes
[04:48] <Fifty> That's already in sshd_config
[04:49] <ponyrider> this and double check the ChallengeResponseAuthentication is indeed set you yes
[04:49] <Fifty> Now that I look at it, "PermitRootLogin yes" is in there twice
[04:49] <Fifty> Ooh, it's on no.
[04:49] <Fifty> Aha! There we go!
[04:50] <Fifty> Thank you, you're a great help.
[04:50] <ponyrider> ^^^ that was in the tutorial as well. so where you editing /etc/ssh/sshd???
[04:50] <ponyrider> oh LOL
[04:50] <Fifty> The issue was, is that I got confused with which config file to edit to.
[04:50] <ponyrider> winner ;)
[04:50] <Fifty> My excuse is that it is 5am and I've not slept.
[04:50] <Fifty> Again, thanks for the help.
[04:50] <ponyrider> yes! ok an easy enough mistake. learn your lesson now, you can waste hours
[04:51] <Fifty> The lesson is to not modify a server at 4am for an hour straight.
[04:51] <Fifty> But that's no fun now.
[05:41] <makara> hi. I can't seem to get rid of python-gtk2-dev package https://paste.ee/p/w3fOy
[05:46] <OerHeks> i hope this works: sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq python-gtk2-dev
[05:46] <OerHeks> but this might take down the whole desktop?
[05:46] <Bashing-om> makara: "24 not upgraded" Maybe a update will over write the bad file ? What results ' sudo apt update ; sudo apt full-upgrade '?
[05:54] <Regor> i want to install equalizer and open-file folder plugin on rhythmbox on 18.04 bionic .
[06:00] <makara> Bashing-om: same error. Same version of the package
[06:00] <makara> OerHeks: I don't want to take down the whole desktop
[06:04] <mrpotatoes> hi everyone, anyone know if there's a newer `tar` with ZSTD support available somehow easily?
[06:04] <mrpotatoes> I can't google anything
[06:04] <mrpotatoes> (on 18.04 if important)
[06:05] <Bashing-om> makara: Perhaps fix the file ? what shows ' ls -al /usr/bin/pyversions ' ?
[06:06] <makara> mrpotatoes: you'll need version 1.30.90+
[06:07] <makara> Bashing-om: I tried placing the multiple exceptions in parenthesis but got another error. Let me try splitting into two exceptions
[06:10] <Bashing-om> makara: Sure you are working on the correct file ? My system has a symlink to /usr/bin/pyversions -> ../share/python/pyversions.py
[06:12] <makara> Bashing-om: same file yes
[06:14] <makara> but why am I changing it anyway?
[06:14] <Bashing-om> makara: Cary on -you seem to know what you are doing :D
[06:17] <Bashing-om> makara: The error is " File "/usr/bin/pyversions", line 20 >> except IOError, msg: >> SyntaxError: invalid syntax ".
[06:18] <ponyrider>  /join #manjaro
[06:18] <ponyrider> fuck
[06:18] <makara> Bashing-om: on my other machine 19.04 the #! interpreter is explicitely python2
[06:19] <afidegnum> hello, i can
[06:20] <afidegnum> i can't install compiz on my 18.04 is there an alternate widget to use ?
[06:21] <Bashing-om> makara: my 18.04 installhas it as "#! /usr/bin/python". Still reading my file.
[06:22] <ponyrider> Bashing-om: why is there a space there?
[06:23] <Randolf> Hmm, never seen that with a space before.
[06:24] <ponyrider> i think the interpreter will choke on it
[06:24] <ponyrider> it doesnt !~
[06:25] <ponyrider> White space after the shebang characters is optional ! ;)
[06:25] <Randolf> Perl doesn't (I just tried).
[06:26] <makara> OerHeks: I needed to remove /var/lib/dpkg/info/python-gtk2-dev.* as per https://stackoverflow.com/questions/48431372/removing-broken-packages-in-ubuntu
[06:26] <Randolf> That's interesting.  Learning new things is fun.
[06:26] <ponyrider> !sh
[06:27] <makara> Bashing-om: sorted, thx
[06:27] <Bashing-om> makara: :D
[06:27] <ponyrider> !check
[06:27] <Randolf> "Konsole?"  Ha!
[06:38] <PCatinean> Hey everyone, I'm running ubuntu 18.04 with the latest updates and I just reset my dlink router. From windows I can connect fine, from my phone as well but in ubuntu it seems to connect but can't access anything (router http interface or internet)
[06:38] <PCatinean> Can anyone help me debug this?
[06:42] <ponyrider> what is the output of $ ip route
[06:43] <PCatinean> ponyrider, https://pastebin.com/Lk1y0rJg
[06:49] <ponyrider> PCatinean: so you have an ethernet, an wifi too?
[06:50] <ponyrider> PCatinean: why is that?
[06:54] <PCatinean> ponyrider, because I'm also using my phone as a wireless adapater
[06:54] <PCatinean> So I can talk to you
[06:55] <ponyrider> im not the best person, i dont actually run ubuntu
[06:57] <ponyrider> but which one are you connected to?
[06:57] <PCatinean> ponyrider, I am using my mobile as a wireless adapter so I can join this chan and talk to you
[06:58] <ponyrider> PCatinean: well if you are using the phone, of course you cannot access the routeeer
[06:59] <tatertots> PCatinean: did you previously try to use a static ip?
[06:59] <tatertots> PCatinean: and now after a router reset...your static IP is still there?
[07:00] <PCatinean> tatertots, it assigns an ip, I can ping 192.168.0.1
[07:00] <PCatinean> But that's about it
[07:01] <PCatinean> If I don't join from my phone idk how I can ask for support though
[07:02] <PCatinean> I also saw my device on the router interface connected with an assigned ip
[07:03] <OerHeks> so you think you can have multiple router menu access??
[07:04] <tatertots> PCatinean: add google dns server to your DNN in network manager it's 8.8.8.8 and try again,
[07:06] <tommy``> guys i've some questions about nvidia drivers on disco dingo
[07:06] <ponyrider> PCatinean: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html#ip-addressing
[07:11] <PCatinean> tatertots, yeah that's what I thought as well and set 8.8.8.8 in primary dns
[07:11] <PCatinean> ponyrider, should I disconnect the phone and try that?
[07:12] <ponyrider> keep all your windows open so you can just reconnect
[07:13] <PCatinean> it's on the same device, dual boot
[07:13] <PCatinean> yikes
[07:13] <ponyrider> use the $ ip link set dev <device> up/down command
[07:15] <PCatinean> ok
[07:19] <PCatinean> Soo yeah that didn't go well
[07:19] <PCatinean> I'm not nearly qualified enough to debug this problem, set the default gateway to the router and it died again
[07:23] <ponyrider> when you reset your router, did the gateway change?
[07:23] <PCatinean> I don't know
[07:23] <PCatinean> I could not connect to it before because I didn't know the password
[07:24] <ponyrider> PCatinean: before you said you can ping 192.168.0.1, but that is the gateway for your phone, are you aware of that?
[07:24] <PCatinean> ponyrider, I meant even before I used my mobile as gateway that worked
[07:24] <PCatinean> But the interface itself was not available from the browser
[07:24] <PCatinean> Then I booted into windows and tried the same http://192.168.0.1 and it worked, same from the phone
[07:25] <dnno_> hello all what should i do with this kind of error how do i fix
[07:25] <ponyrider> ip addr flush enp0s20f0u2
[07:25] <dnno_> Target Packages (partner/binary-amd64/Packages) is configured multiple times in /etc/apt/sources.list:43 and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/disco-partner.list:4
[07:26] <dnno_> after running sudo apt-get update
[07:26] <Bashing-om> dnno_: remove the enty from the /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ directory .
[07:26] <Bashing-om> entry*
[07:26] <PCatinean> I should run that ponyrider ?
[07:27] <dnno_> so just open with a txt editor delete multiples and save close reboot?
[07:27] <ponyrider> PCatinean: the default gateway for your eth says its 192.168.42.129.. but then you say your routers gateway is 192.168.0.1
[07:27] <dnno_> with a backup of course
[07:28] <ponyrider> PCatinean: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/network-configuration.html#ip-addressing <<<< go to the DHCP client section
[07:28] <Bashing-om> dnno_: ' rm -rf /etc/apt/sources.list.d/disco-partner.list ' .
[07:31] <ponyrider> do not type the '.' at the end !
[07:31] <ponyrider> lol
[07:31] <dnno_> thanks
[07:32] <PCatinean> Ok so now connected from my phone only
[07:32] <PCatinean> It appears I can ping 192.168.0.1 but cannot access the web interface whereas I can fromy.phone
[07:32] <tommy``> is it possible Wayland working with nvidia drivers?
[07:32] <Bashing-om> dnno_: Glad2help :P
[07:32] <PCatinean> And i can ping 8.8.8.8 from laptop
[07:32] <PCatinean> But can't resolve dns or connect to anything
[07:33] <OerHeks> tommy``, no, unless there is a recent change.
[07:33] <tommy``> I'm actullay with driver 390 but i've uncommented the #WaylandEnable = false
[07:34] <OerHeks> then you won't see a wayland session at login
[07:34] <PCatinean> Any1?
[07:34] <royal_screwup21>  I am using zsh. I want to change my preferred edtor for ssh sessions to be vs-code instead of vim. Is it possible to do that by tweaking the .zshrc file? https://gist.github.com/hollandben/2e7899d1ae76c72b7c62ca984578aa63
[07:34] <PCatinean> @ ponyrider
[07:34] <dnno_> Bashing-om, https://imgur.com/a/ypjJNVF
[07:34] <tommy``> OerHeks: if was using WaylandEnable commented i had problem login: (stuck and frozen)
[07:34] <dnno_> Bashing-om, why would i have so many to delete
[07:35] <dnno_> is there a quicker way than one by one ?
[07:35] <ponyrider> sudo ip addr add 192.168.0.1/24 dev enp0s20f0u2
[07:35] <ponyrider> ^ we add a temporary ip for you
[07:35] <OerHeks> tommy``, so you have our answer, nvidia and wayland do not work
[07:35] <ponyrider> ip link set dev enp0s20f0u2 up
[07:36] <PCatinean> No such device
[07:36] <PCatinean> I assume wlan?
[07:36] <ponyrider> ^ and switch
[07:36] <PCatinean> wlp2s0?
[07:36] <tommy``> OerHeks: so it's normal that without Wayland the gnome desktop is a bit laggy?
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> for networking issues please join ##networking this is ubuntu support
[07:36] <Bashing-om> dnno_: the advisement was only in respect to this one duplication. looking at^ ,
[07:37] <ponyrider> fuck osrry
[07:37] <ponyrider> sudo ip addr add 192.168.0.22/24 dev enp0s20f0u2
[07:37] <PCatinean> My phone is no longer connected to my laptop
[07:37] <guiverc> language please ponyrider
[07:37] <PCatinean> Maybe that was the device
[07:37] <PCatinean> Now it's just the wireless interface
[07:38] <PCatinean> Should I use that instead?
[07:38] <ponyrider> PCatinean: look if you dont follow my instruction there is nothing i can do for you
[07:38] <PCatinean> Ok
[07:38] <OerHeks> tommy``, it depends on your hardware specs, and what services you run
[07:38] <PCatinean> Same error
[07:39] <PCatinean> Cannot find devixe enp0...
[07:39] <OerHeks> and 'a bit laggy'  is so vague
[07:39] <ponyrider> sorry what is the output of $ ip a
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: please dont use this channel to describe every step you do, focus on actual ubuntu question and patient
[07:40] <PCatinean> Lo, wlp2s0 many many br-hash and docket
[07:40] <PCatinean> Docker*
[07:40] <PCatinean> That's why I asked if I should use wlp2s0
[07:40] <Bashing-om> dnno_: As the package manager advises - duplication, As sources.list.d/ is for 3rd parties sources, does not belong there to start with.
[07:40] <OerHeks> lotuspsychje, he wants to have access to his router menu from all devices at the same time, help him :-P
[07:41] <ponyrider> PCatinean: stop telling what you *think* you should do
[07:41] <PCatinean> Ok
[07:41] <tommy``> OerHeks: yes my pc is a bit old i've a core 2 quad 9600 with 6GB RAM
[07:41] <ponyrider> PCatinean: where is your ethernet device? it should be there?
[07:42] <PCatinean> I just told you i removed the connection from my phone a.k.a unplugged it
[07:42] <PCatinean> And now i'm chatting from androirc app
[07:42] <PCatinean> While the laptop is connected to just the router
[07:42] <PCatinean> So i would assume (if you would allow me) that it's no longer there because i removed the cable
[07:42] <ponyrider> !!!!!!!!!
[07:42] <ponyrider> i give up
[07:43] <PCatinean> Ok then nevermind
[07:43] <PCatinean> Anyone else with a bit more patience and less pretentious?
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: tweak gnome a bit, should work smoother on 6GB ram
[07:43] <ponyrider> why dont you just read the link i sent you, and stop wasting eveyones time
[07:43] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: where are the options to twek gnome?
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> PCatinean: ask a question and then patient until someone knows, see also ##networking for network issues
[07:44] <PCatinean> Ok thanks
[07:44] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: sudo apt install preload haveged gnome-tweak-tool bleachbit
[07:44] <PCatinean> Just not sure if it's ubuntu related or not
[07:44] <PCatinean> Though should be since it works from any other OS or device
[07:44] <ponyrider> you said before you were using the phone as wifi
[07:44] <conjo> hi all what would the ideal amount of space for a ubuntu install be (on the generous side) need to split manjaro and ubuntu on a 120gig drive
[07:45] <PCatinean> I have a feeling it's related to DNS since I can ping 8.8.8.8
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> conjo: the users choice, i think ubuntu needs 8GB + these days
[07:45] <conjo> have another set aside for stroage hdd not a ssd which will be for os
[07:45] <PCatinean> ponyrider I also mentioned then I removed it if you would have read everything
[07:45] <OerHeks> ideal = manjaro 0, ubuntu 120
[07:45] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: lol
[07:45] <PCatinean> Because all the changes kept disconnecting me
[07:45] <ponyrider> PCatinean: can you just do what i say? so plug in the ethernet cable
[07:46] <PCatinean> So I decided to ask for help on phone
[07:46] <conjo> thanks
[07:46] <PCatinean> And keep laptop just on wifi
[07:46] <Bashing-om> conjo: Minimal suggestion is 30 Gigs for an ubuntu install.
[07:46] <PCatinean> You mean the usb cable to the phone back?
[07:46] <PCatinean> And enable usb tethering as before?
[07:46] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: ok, this is like a cleaner, but i got a bit laggy on the animation of desktop like when i click on "show applications"
[07:46] <ponyrider> you said before that you wanted to connect to your router via ethernet
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: graphics driver installed properly?
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> !who | PCatinean ponyrider
[07:47] <PCatinean> I think there has been a miscommunication ponyrider
[07:47] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: i've installed nvidia-390 but i  had to use "nomodeset" on grub and the WaylandEnable = false
[07:47] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: sudo lshw -C video, to see
[07:47] <PCatinean> My laptop connects to the d-link router but i cannot access the web interface of the router or the internet
[07:48] <ponyrider> PCatinean: connects via what? you are not being clear
[07:48] <PCatinean> ponyrider, as such the only workaround was to use my phone as a wireless adapter.
[07:48] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: nomodeset is for testing/bypassing should not be used for daily driver
[07:48] <PCatinean> ponyrider via wireless connection only. I don't even have a lan port on this notebook
[07:48] <ponyrider> ^^^ this
[07:49] <PCatinean> And my aim is to connect to.it.via wireless interface and actually work
[07:49] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/q97qaauD
[07:49] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: wich drivers show on: ubuntu-drivers list ?
[07:50] <ponyrider> PCatinean: you see you should have said that at the very start instead of making me extract information from you. $ sudo iwlist scan
[07:50] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: 2 of them, nvidia-340 and nvidia-driver-390
[07:50] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: did you try a switch yet to compare?
[07:51] <PCatinean> I see well then my bad, sorry
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: i recently tested the 340 on an old card, was still working properly for me
[07:51] <PCatinean> Got a huge list for wlp2s0
[07:51] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: switch, how?
[07:51] <PCatinean> Not sure how i can copy.paste the data to show
[07:51] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: software&updates/tab additional drivers/340 vs 390
[07:51] <ponyrider> PCatinean: so one of them is your d-link access point
[07:52] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: make sure you disabled nomodeset, to have the full power of your nvidia driver too
[07:52] <tommy``> i show you my grub lotuspsychje
[07:52] <PCatinean> I can see by the ESSID which i recognize, it's the first
[07:53] <ponyrider> great
[07:53] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/A01EkWmN
[07:53] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: change to "quiet splash" then sudo update-grub and reboot
[07:54] <ponyrider> PCatinean: iwconfig wlp2s0 essid <name> key <password>
[07:54] <tommy``> ok try and re-login
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: make sure you login to ubuntu(gnome)
[07:55] <PCatinean> ponyrider set failed on device wlp2s0 operation already in progress
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: not ubuntu(wayland)
[07:55] <ponyrider> ok
[07:55] <tommy``> yes i have uncommented the WaylandEnable
[07:55] <tommy``> you mean that?
[07:55] <ponyrider> dhclient wlp2s0
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: at your login gdm you can also choose
[07:56] <PCatinean> Seems to be stalling
[07:56] <ponyrider> wait for it
[07:56] <PCatinean> Ok
[07:56] <ponyrider> ping www.google.com
[07:56] <PCatinean> No ping, still stalling
[07:56] <tommy``> rebooting
[07:58] <PCatinean> ponyrider As mentioned ping 8.8.8.8 works but no domains, and still no output from.dhclient
[07:58] <ponyrider> !give PCatinean ix
[07:58] <ponyrider> !ix
[07:58] <ponyrider> !paste
[08:00] <PCatinean> ponyrider, is it supposed to take this long?
[08:01] <ponyrider> ip addr flush wlp2s0; systemctl restart dhcpd@wlp2s0.service; ip a | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
[08:01] <tommy``> ok now i've removed nomodeset from grub options
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: graphics better now?
[08:02] <PCatinean> Failed to restart service unit not found
[08:03] <tommy``> same as before, but when i press on show applications it's a bit laggy when open the list of all apps
[08:04] <PCatinean> If I use tabcomplete for dhcpd@ i can see hostname ip6 localhost and othet criptic ones but not wlp2s0
[08:05] <PCatinean> Hostname as in the hostname of the notebook
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: your graphics card is not the biggest monster for gnome neither :p
[08:05] <denger> hello, after been foreced upgrade to Ubuntu 18.04.3 LTS, i can't use "apt update", it always tells me "403 Forbidden", even i changed different sources. any body can give me some hint?
[08:06] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: how can i check if i'm using nvidia 390 or 340?
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> denger: could you pastebin the whole output please
[08:06] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: nvidia-smi
[08:06] <denger> root@ubuntu-bionic:/etc/apt # apt update
[08:06] <denger> 403  Forbidden [IP: 91.189.88.162 80]
[08:07] <ponyrider> PCatinean: ok just give me $ iwconfig | curl -F 'f:1=<-' ix.io
[08:08] <PCatinean> ponyrider Could not resolve host ix.io
[08:08] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: do you know something like "pastebinit" shell command?
[08:08] <lotuspsychje> !pastebinit | tommy``
[08:08] <ponyrider> PCatinean: oh of course..
[08:08] <PCatinean> :)
[08:09] <PCatinean> I can plug in back the phone as wireless adapter to do that, or take a picture idk
[08:09] <ponyrider> is your wifi interface actually still named wlp2s0
[08:09] <lotuspsychje> denger: are you behind a firewall or router?
[08:09] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: yes, i've installed that but i got python error usr/bin/pastebinit:42: DeprecationWarning: dist() and linux_distribution() functions are deprecated in Python 3.5 release = platform.linux_distribution()[0].lower()
[08:09] <PCatinean> Yes
[08:10] <ponyrider> sudo dhclient wlp2s0 -r
[08:10] <PCatinean> No output
[08:10] <ponyrider> good
[08:10] <denger> yes, but i can access the website by my chrome.
[08:11] <ponyrider> dhclient wlp2s0
[08:11] <ponyrider> try again
[08:11] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: https://pastebin.com/s9ZYDpA4
[08:11] <PCatinean> Still hangs and nothing happens, no matter how much I leave it
[08:11] <denger> even if i change the source address to some special, it always 403.
[08:12] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: 390
[08:12] <tommy``> ok, seems all is good now
[08:12] <ponyrider>  and this still doesnt work?  iwconfig wlp2s0 essid <name> key <password>
[08:13] <PCatinean> Error for wireless request Set ESSID Set failed on device wlp2s0 operation already in progress
[08:14] <ponyrider> PCatinean: there must be a systemctl process already in place
[08:15] <PCatinean> Maybe docker is messing with it? I shut it down before btw just to ve sure
[08:15] <ponyrider> PCatinean: $ ip link set wlp2s0 down
[08:15] <ponyrider> PCatinean: $ ip link set wlp2s0 up
[08:16] <PCatinean> Done
[08:16] <PCatinean> Now I ran dhclient wlp2s0 and it returned no output
[08:17] <denger> Answer for: http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic-security/InRelease
[08:17] <denger> why ~
[08:17] <ponyrider> ip addr
[08:18] <PCatinean> It returned, i have assigned 192.168.0.193/24
[08:18] <PCatinean> Think it's the same as before
[08:18] <ponyrider> i see
[08:19] <ponyrider> thats connected? so if you ping 192.168.0.1 ???
[08:19] <PCatinean> Ping in router always worked
[08:20] <PCatinean> Still does
[08:28] <PCatinean> ponyrider, anything else i can do?
[08:35] <amrasouli79>   /exit
[08:40] <Xat`> hello guys
[08:41] <Xat`> I get a dependency error based on libcurl : https://paste.ee/p/0uujJ
[08:42] <OerHeks> Xat`, run apt update first, or better sudo apt update && sudo apt dist-upgrade # before installing anything new
[08:42] <Xat`> as you can see, I have a package that needs libcurl3 and it is installed . But, when installing curl, it says I need libcurl4 instead, so it brokes something
[08:44] <OerHeks> !info libcurl4
[08:45] <OerHeks> curl depends on libcurl4 indeed, why do you want libcurl3 ??
[08:45] <OerHeks> libcurl3 and libcurl4 cannot coexist
[08:45] <Xat`> #OerHeks: I need libapache2-mod-shib2 shibboleth-sp2-utils and shibboleth-sp2-common
[08:45] <Xat`> OerHeks: I need libapache2-mod-shib2 shibboleth-sp2-utils and shibboleth-sp2-common
[08:45] <Xat`> oups
[08:46] <OerHeks> there is a hack, but needs a lot of manual work to make it run https://dev.to/jake/using-libcurl3-and-libcurl4-on-ubuntu-1804-bionic-184g
[08:48] <PCatinean> I'm having an issue with my ubuntu 18.04. I can connect to the wireless network with the same notebook from windows or from my android phone with no problems but when I boot into ubuntu I can connect to the network but I have no internet access or access to the router's web interface. I have also noticed that I can ping 8.8.8.8 while connected wirelessly to this network from ubuntu but that's pretty much it. Any advice?
[08:48] <OerHeks> i find no dependencies for libcurl3 in those 3 packages?
[08:54] <Xat`> ok I will try without libcurl3
[08:55] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: which is best graphic card for ubuntu 19.04 or future ?
[08:57] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: there is no really 'best of', ubuntu runs on all sorts of different hardware
[08:58] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: you tell me that mine is a bit old, if I should upgrade, which ones i could get?
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: it depends what you want to do with your graphics, based on that you buy/choose a new card
[08:58] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: in your case, i would choose a lubuntu or xubuntu to run your system smoother first
[08:59] <lotuspsychje> !flavours | tommy``
[08:59] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: those are for outdated machines i imagine
[08:59] <OerHeks> your system core 2 quad 9600  suggest LGA775, so your whole system needs to be replaced for recent videocards PciXpress 4.0
[09:00] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: no, they are for a more lightweight choice
[09:00] <OerHeks> but hardware recommendations is beyond the scope of this channel
[09:01] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: ok i will keep that in mind for some future downgrade if i notice some lag problems
[09:01] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: clean install, not downgrade
[09:02] <tommy``> lotuspsychje: yeah sorry i meant that
[09:03] <tommy``> i've a question about wine, i've a software that use on windows some video and audio codec.. (it's a software for visual subtitles sync) I managed to install and working with wine, but i can't reproduce video inside the software becuase it uses the lav codec and filters, what i should do to fix that?
[09:04] <OerHeks> join the #winehq channel for winesupport
[09:04] <OerHeks> !wine
[09:04] <tommy``> ok
[09:05] <OerHeks> one better find a free alternative
[09:05] <tommy``> OerHeks: sadly i find nothing so powerful like VisualSubSync
[09:06] <tommy``> OerHeks: I've tested Aegisub but it's not handly like VSS
[09:17] <Xat`> OerHeks: I tried by removing libcurl3 from my package installation : https://paste.ee/p/yHx2Z . As you can see, I get another dependency error
[09:24] <OerHeks> Xat`, interesting that you have libcurl3 installed..
[09:25] <OerHeks> start again with a fresh vm?
[09:25] <Xat`> it is
[09:26] <Xat`> I do a full rebuild
[09:26] <Xat`> OerHeks: in my last paste, I did't have libcurl3
[09:37] <danboid> Does eoan have a command for creating a new ZFS boot environment yet?
[09:39] <OerHeks> danboid, yes, the current daily live iso gives zfs support, join #ubuntu+1 for info and support
[09:40] <danboid> OerHeks, Will do, thanks
[09:41] <Xat`> OerHeks: ok I know why . libapache2-mod-shibd depends on libxmltooling7 . And libxmltooling7 needs libcurl3
[09:41] <tommy``> about alsa and alsa-mixer is it normal that i hear a strange noise before i play some audio?
[09:41] <tommy``> it's a sound like you connect a microphone to a jack
[09:44] <Xat`> guys, I have libapache2-mod-shibd that depends on libxmltooling7. And libxmltooling7 depends on libcurl3 . After installing them, I need to install curl, that needs libcurl4 . So apt does not want I install both libcurl3 and libcurl4 . How to resolve this ?
[09:44] <doug16k> tommy``, a click/pop sound? that could be power management
[09:45] <tommy``> doug16k: yes it's like a pop sound
[09:45] <OerHeks> i already posted a hack, but i think it will give issues, as liburl 3 and 4 do not live together
[09:45] <OerHeks> good luck
[09:45] <Xat`> :/
[09:45] <doug16k> I suggest `sudo powertop` and tab over to Tunables, pgdn to "Enable Audio Codec Power Management" and set it to Bad
[09:46] <doug16k> ...if you can
[09:46] <doug16k> same for the sound card if it is there below
[09:47] <doug16k> is it a usb audio device? Might want to disable autosuspend on usb
[09:48] <doug16k> add kernel parameter usbcore.autosuspend=-1
[09:48] <tommy``> doug16k: no it's my internal soundcard
[09:48] <tommy``> doug16k: Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[09:49] <tommy``> doug16k: alsamixer is auto-mute Disabled
[09:51] <tommy``> doug16k: that options was on Negative
[09:53] <doug16k> sometimes modules will have a parameter to disable powersave. look at the modinfo output for your sound device
[09:53] <doug16k> sometimes they will have a device file under /sys/modules/<your-sound-module>
[09:55] <tommy``> 1 found this with modinfo snd_hda_intel power_save:Automatic power-saving timeout (in second, 0 = disable). (xint)
[09:58] <doug16k> tommy``, cd to that directory and do: echo 0 | sudo tee power_save
[09:58] <tommy``> it returns 0 and a pop sound
[09:58] <doug16k> should never pop again though
[09:58] <doug16k> until reboot
[09:59] <doug16k> to make it permanent, add snd_hda_intel.power_save=0 to your boot kernel parameters in /etc/default/grub, then run sudo update-grub
[10:02] <tommy``> doug16k: got me an error the update grub
[10:02] <doug16k> can you pastebin your /etc/defaults/grub
[10:02] <tommy``>  /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 33: /etc/default/grub: snd_hda_intel.power_save=0: not found
[10:03] <doug16k> should be placed between the quotes at GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=
[10:03] <doug16k> space separated from whatever is already there
[10:04] <tommy``> oh ok!
[10:04] <tommy``> ok worked!
[10:04] <doug16k> nice
[10:04] <tommy``> rebooting and testing
[10:05] <doug16k> ok
[10:09] <tommy``> doug16k: testing now
[10:09] <tommy``> my pc is not a flash booting ubuntu :D
[11:06] <tommy``> is anyone here have nordvpn installed?
[11:09] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[12:02] <EdwardIII> hey, i'm trying to upgrade a project i inherited from ubuntu 14.04. some services are getting installed by ansible, i think it's manually creating some upstart conf files. it brings services up or down with literally just "start" or "stop" - is /sbin/start an upstart thing?
[12:09] <ioria> EdwardIII, yes, https://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/amd64/upstart/filelist
[15:20] <Walex> EdwardIII: the 'init' independent way is 'service ... [start|stop|...]'
[15:21] <Walex> EdwardIII: but Ansible should have a builtin that does the right thing, Ansible "scripts" should not run that type of command directly
[15:30] <mgedmin> ansible has a service module for this
[15:41] <HokarPokar> Hey guys. I'm trying to write a piece of code that can detect sequential keypresses in background, for any application opened. Does anyone know of an API in ubuntu that can help me achieve this ? The long term goal is to map those sequential keypresses to a command, pretty much like keyboard shortcuts. Except that, keys in keyboard shortcuts need
[15:41] <HokarPokar> to held down. What I want is to detect a certain sequence of keypresses and then, map that to a command
[15:45] <Walex> HokarPokar: not clear what you want but look at the code in 'xbindkeys' and modify it.
[15:56] <Psychotabby> Recently installed Server 18.04LTS and installed ssh.  Verified SSH running on port 2576 using "sudo service ssh status".  I can log in locally using "ssh localhost" but when I try to log in from another machine on the network I get "connection refused".  thoughts?
[15:56] <doug16k> Psychotabby, is it a vm?
[15:57] <Psychotabby> no it is not.
[15:57] <Psychotabby> I can also ping that machine from my other machine
[15:57] <mgedmin> 2576 is not the standard SSH port
[15:58] <mgedmin> do you have a firewall enabled on this machine?
[15:59] <Psychotabby> I changed the port number thinking maybe my DDWRT router was blocking it.  I don't know if I have a firewall enabled on the server.  It's a fresh  18.04 LTS install
[15:59] <mgedmin> a fresh install shouldn't have a firewall
[15:59] <doug16k> Psychotabby, what does this say from the other machine: nmap server-ip-here -p 2576
[15:59] <mgedmin> is the other machine you're testing on the same LAN?
[15:59] <Psychotabby> Wait, from the client or from the server?
[15:59] <doug16k> me? client
[15:59] <Psychotabby> sec
[16:00] <Psychotabby> I guess I don't have nmap on my windows machine
[16:00] <doug16k> ah, windows client
[16:00] <Psychotabby> @mge yes they are on the same Lan
[16:01] <doug16k> windows firewall is setup normally? not all tweaked for security?
[16:01] <Psychotabby> Correct.  I'm not sure I've ever changed anything on this Windows 10 machine
[16:05] <doug16k> Psychotabby, you could try `nmap localhost -p 2576` on the server to verify that ssh is really listening on port 2576
[16:05] <Psychotabby> sec
[16:06] <mgedmin> netstat -tl or ss -tl might be better
[16:07] <mgedmin> but the default is to listen on 0.0.0.0:22 and [::]:22
[16:07] <Psychotabby> nmap output was port 2576 TCP open
[16:07] <mgedmin> when you're trying from another machine in the same LAN, did you use the hostname or IP?
[16:08] <Psychotabby> Also, "sudo service ssh status" returns "listen on 0.0.0.0 port 2576
[16:08] <Psychotabby> ip
[16:08] <mgedmin> everything seems to be in order
[16:08] <mgedmin> shame you can't try nmap on the client
[16:09] <Psychotabby> should I try something other than MobaXterm?  Just seemed popular
[16:09] <mgedmin> ... do you have netcat or telnet there?  you could try and see if you get the OpenSSH welcome banner if you try to connect
[16:09] <Psychotabby> are those services in W10?
[16:09] <doug16k> Psychotabby, telnet may need to be enabled in "turn windows features on or off" thing
[16:09] <mgedmin> I've always used putty on window
[16:09] <mgedmin> s
[16:10] <Psychotabby> lemme enable telnet
[16:10] <mgedmin> 'enable telnet' sounds scary; I hope it refers to the telnet client and not telnet server
[16:10] <Psychotabby> What is the telnet comman syntax I'm looking for?
[16:10] <doug16k> this command should turn on telnet without poking around with the mouse: dism /online /Enable-Feature /FeatureName:TelnetClient
[16:11] <Psychotabby> enabled telnet client.
[16:11] <doug16k> must be administrator
[16:11] <doug16k> telnet the-server-ip-here 2576
[16:12] <Psychotabby> "Could not open connection to the host on port 2576"
[16:13] <mgedmin> ok, on the server can you try sudo iptables -L to check if firewall is enabled?
[16:13] <Psychotabby> sec
[16:13] <mgedmin> if it's off, you'll see three chains with policy ACCEPT and no rules
[16:14] <IaMnEwHeRe> just my 2ct, if there is a need for telnet and you actually have controle over the server use SSH(just saying not having followed the beginning of the discussion
[16:14] <mgedmin> IaMnEwHeRe: we're trying to use telnet to discover if the SSH server shows the banner on the right port
[16:15] <Psychotabby> yep, three chains, all with ACCEPT
[16:15] <doug16k> IaMnEwHeRe, just seeing if telnet can connect at all
[16:15] <doug16k> poor man's nmap
[16:15] <mgedmin> running out of ideas here!  can you double-check the IP address?
[16:15] <mgedmin> on the server itself you can see it with `ip a`
[16:15] <Psychotabby> sec
[16:15] <IaMnEwHeRe> the ssh-client should also display the banner shouldn
[16:16] <IaMnEwHeRe> t it
[16:16] <doug16k> Psychotabby, are they on the same subnet? what does this say from windows: tracert server-ip-here
[16:16] <IaMnEwHeRe> and I recall that there is a tool that scraps public keys including the banner from ssh but forgot the name
[16:17] <Psychotabby> MY GOSH!  It changed!
[16:17] <mgedmin> ha!
[16:17] <Psychotabby> unreal.
[16:17] <mgedmin> hey, does windows support MDNS?
[16:17] <Psychotabby> it was .124 last night but somehow through all this starting, stopping, etc, it changed to .121
[16:17] <mgedmin> I think you need to install avahi-daemon on the server to make it advertise its hostname via mDNS
[16:17] <doug16k> Psychotabby, setup a dhcp reservation on your router so it won't change
[16:18] <mgedmin> then you should be able to ssh yourserver.local if the client supports mDNS
[16:18] <Psychotabby> and ofc, now I can log in.
[16:18] <Psychotabby> Thank you so much!
[16:18] <mgedmin> (althoguh it's nicer when the router does DNS for local machines, combined with static DHCP leases)
[16:18] <Psychotabby> Now time  to set a static IP.
[16:25] <tommy``> what's this options on grub? nvidia-drm.modeset=1
[16:26] <tomreyn> modinfo -p nvidia-drm    should tell
[16:27] <tomreyn> it's "kernel mode setting", having the kernel initialize graphics (instead of the classic way, the user space)
[16:28] <tomreyn> as far as i know, nvidia hasn't really made it there, yet, though
[16:29] <tomreyn> (and maybe they never will unless they go open source.)
[16:29] <tommy``> tomreyn: i think i will make a clean install and test lubuntu as ubuntu is a bit laggy on "show applications"
[16:30] <tomreyn> that's ok with me if you do this
[16:31] <tommy``> can i install the desktop environment that use Lubuntu on ubuntu?
[16:31] <makr8100> tommy``: yes, it's LXDE
[16:31] <tomreyn> the base system is the same amongst all official flavors
[16:32] <tomreyn> sudo apt install lubuntu-desktop^
[16:32] <tomreyn> you'll still have the default (gnome-shell) desktop installed, though, and removing this is not as easy.
[16:35] <chainz> anyone know what this message means? dbus[931]: [system] Rejected send message, 3 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.6302" (uid=288800009 pid=21677 comm="nm-applet ") interface="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager" member="GetPermissions" error name="(unset)" requested_reply="0" destination="org.freedesktop.NetworkManager" (uid=0 pid=1011 comm="NetworkManager ")
[16:35] <chainz> i'm trying to set up the script in the 2nd answer here and getting that error, https://askubuntu.com/questions/179889/how-do-i-set-up-an-email-alert-when-a-ssh-login-is-successful
[16:38] <ghoti> Is there a tool that's part of the X window system that will send whatever's in my copy/paste buffer to stdout? Sort of like `pbpaste` on macOS?
[16:38] <doug16k> tomreyn, what does the caret mean?
[16:39] <tomreyn> chainz: hardly related. what you posted is about a message / command the network manager applet (the top right corner icon used for managing your network connections) tried to send to network manager, but ws not allowed to (not sure why).
[16:39] <IaMnEwHeRe> ghoti look for xclip
[16:39] <tomreyn> doug16k: it's an apt "task". previously, "tasksel" was used to manage those.
[16:39] <IaMnEwHeRe> ubuntu is not my distribution , but that is what I am using for stuff like this
[16:40] <doug16k> ah
[16:46] <IaMnEwHeRe> I have a specific systemd-resolved question, is there a way to determin which configuration(interface(wlan0, tun0), fallback) is used for resolving a request?
[16:48] <Psychotabby> @mgedmin - I broke something.  Let me explain because I have no idea why this isn't working now.  The only thing I did was change my IP to static.  I did this editing a file in the /etc/netplan folder.  After that, I did 'ip a' and sure enough, it shows the correct ip address.  SSH is running, I can connect via localhost, everything is alright.  I can ping the machine from my windows machine.  But can't login via SSH.  Did I
[16:48] <Psychotabby> forget something?
[16:53] <tomreyn> Psychotabby: systemctl restart ssh
[16:53] <Psychotabby> sec
[16:58] <Psychotabby> OK, I input that command.  still can't login from ssh though.  ssh IS running accoring to "sudo service ssh status"
[16:59] <doug16k> sarnold, wow that was your post on stackoverflow yesterday! what a coincidence
[16:59] <sarnold> doug16k: crazy, right? :)
[16:59] <sarnold> doug16k: I'm glad you found the thing, and I'm glad it was still mostly right :) hehe
[17:00] <tomreyn> Psychotabby: firewalled?
[17:00] <Psychotabby> ok.  So, here's something I discovered.
[17:01] <Psychotabby> So my IP address as dynamically assigned WAS .121.  However, I changed the IP using netplan, and now "ip a" reports .200.  HOWEVER, I can ssh into .121 successfully.
[17:01] <Psychotabby> I am completely lost now.
[17:03] <Psychotabby> How is that even possible?
[17:06] <sarnold> Psychotabby: strange indeed; are you sure ip a on the host in question doesn't show the .121 address assigned to the IP as well?
[17:09] <Psychotabby> I'm pretty sure I found it.  Help me out with this.  So I edited my netplan yaml file, and I entered the addresses correctly EXCEPT I forgot to change dhcp4: true, to "no".
[17:09] <Psychotabby> working now.  I did sudo netplan apply
[17:10] <Psychotabby> Remember this for when the next linux newbie comes in here lol!
[17:10] <halfbit> when running apt update I get an error, /boot fills up from initrd
[17:10] <halfbit> initrd on this machine with 18.04 and kernel 4.15.18 is 350mb...
[17:11] <halfbit> on another machine with a slightly older kernel, same exact hardware, 40mb
[17:11] <halfbit> is there something I can do to work through this? do I need to temporarily mount a larger /boot?
[17:12] <halfbit> https://gist.github.com/bfrog/1dac0748dbfa1ca5b844165d13f8253f
[17:18] <sarnold> halfbit: fixing this up is so bloody annoying :/
[17:18] <halfbit> yeah
[17:18] <sarnold> halfbit: the usual approach is to use > initrd-versionnumber  to *truncate* the files..
[17:19] <sarnold> halfbit: then once there's a bit of free space on the filesystem, you can use dpkg --purge to remove an unneeded old package
[17:19] <halfbit> the thing is, there's only one initrd.img file on there...
[17:19] <sarnold> halfbit: then you ought to be able to continue with apt install -f  I think
[17:19] <sarnold> only one??
[17:19] <sarnold> how many kernels?
[17:19] <halfbit> 1 kernel
[17:19] <halfbit> 512mb /boot
[17:20] <halfbit> its like it left the ungziped initrd file on there
[17:20] <halfbit> takes up 350mb
[17:20] <psilly0> knoppix
[17:20] <halfbit> https://gist.github.com/bfrog/0014307e905c39e3f891dc35e6bca4734.15.18
[17:20] <halfbit> er dammit
[17:20] <halfbit> https://gist.github.com/bfrog/0014307e905c39e3f891dc35e6bca473
[17:20] <halfbit> full contents of /boot
[17:21] <halfbit> have no clue how that happened just running apt update
[17:21] <halfbit> very frustrating
[17:22] <halfbit> this is a remote machine, so hopefully there's something I can do here safetly to fix this
[17:22] <halfbit> I'm going to try mv'ing that file
[17:22] <halfbit> and running apt update again I guess
[17:23] <sarnold> halfbit: good plan
[17:23] <sarnold> halfbit: that's really ugly :/
[17:24] <halfbit> starting to think the whole idea of having a seperate /boot really is non-sense
[17:24] <sarnold> halfbit: yeah, it's probably not necessary for most people these days
[17:25] <sarnold> halfbit: I've got one of my new laptop since I followed a "zfs on root" guide, and .. it took me WEEKS to find out that a snapshot I took of /boot shortly after install was chewing up several hundred megabytes and that's why /boot was always full for me :/
[17:28] <halfbit> that didn't work
[17:28] <halfbit> wonderful
[17:29] <halfbit> time to see if I can move boot into /
[17:33] <bviktor> any ideas why apt downloads packages from the repo with 500 priority over the one with 600 priority?
[17:34] <bviktor> re
[17:34] <tomreyn> no. especially not withu apt policy output
[17:35] <tomreyn> *without
[17:35] <bviktor> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qGtKTg423C/
[17:36] <bviktor> yet if i do something like apt -d install vim-athena, it downloads all packages from *.ubuntu.com
[17:37] <bviktor> even though apt-cache madison vim-athena also lists the local mirror properly
[17:38] <bviktor> like so: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/cwKdkbtyb8/
[17:42] <tomreyn> and     apt-cache policy vim-athena      ?
[17:43] <bviktor> some more files: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/MjrYDs8sVj/
[17:44] <bviktor> i mean, some more files: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/v298TVwMMm/
[17:44] <bviktor> the former is the policy output
[17:45] <bviktor> then the download: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/FjJwwrvRxt/
[17:45] <bviktor> i just don't get it
[17:46] <tomreyn> maybe it doesn't like https for some reason?
[17:46] <bviktor> i don't know, maybe. if i simply put the internal mirror lines in the top of sources.list, it worked
[17:47] <sarnold> weird, I thought that would only matter if they had the same priority
[17:47] <tomreyn> i guess that's what we all expected, yes
[17:47] <bviktor> well, i mean, that was without the preferences file
[17:48] <bviktor> maybe i just messed around too much and it'll all sort itself out after a restart
[17:49] <bviktor> is there anything i can do besides 'apt clean' ?
[17:49] <tomreyn> or we all have a misconception about apt priorities and they're just to meant to switch between package versions, not download sources / mirrors
[17:50] <tomreyn> 'apt clean' *should* be enough
[17:50] <bviktor> mhm
[17:50] <bviktor> brb
[17:51] <akemhp> Hey, is there something that can be done with regular Ubuntu that cannot be done with LUbuntu?
[17:51] <tomreyn> wasting cpu cycles on gnome-shell
[17:52] <tomreyn> oops, i didn't mean to write this!
[17:52] <bviktor> re
[17:52] <akemhp> tomreyn, :P
[17:53] <bviktor> well yeah, no surprises, no changes after reboot
[17:53] <akemhp> Ok, so there is no limitations with it, just a matter of installing packages i think.
[17:57] <bviktor> "Several instances of the same version of a package may be available when the sources.list(5) file contains references to more than one source. In this case apt-get(8) downloads the instance listed earliest in the sources.list(5) file. The APT preferences file does not affect the choice of instance, only the choice of version."
[17:57] <bviktor> yay....
[17:57] <bviktor> back to square one
[17:59] <tomreyn> akemhp: yes, all flavors use the same foundation, just add their respective desktops and sometimes PPAs to it.
[17:59] <PCatinean> Hi everyon
[17:59] <PCatinean> I'm having an issue with my ubuntu 18.04. I can connect to the wireless network with the same notebook from windows or from my android phone with no problems but when I boot into ubuntu I can connect to the network but I have no internet access or access to the router's web interface. I have also noticed that I can ping 8.8.8.8 while connected wirelessly to this network from ubuntu but that's pretty much it. Any advice?
[18:01] <tomreyn> bviktor: hmm, that's a pity, removes much flexibility. so in the end it's just a matter or listing those URLs in the right order. :-/
[18:05] <Psychotabby> What is a command I can issue to list all hard disks in a machine?
[18:06] <tomreyn> sudo lshw -class storage
[18:06] <tomreyn> umm actually not
[18:07] <sarnold> lsblk or sudo lshw -C disk
[18:07] <tomreyn> fdisk -l
[18:07] <tomreyn> ah "disk", thanks
[18:07] <Psychotabby> that did it
[18:08] <Psychotabby> If my account has SU power, why do I have to prefix everythying with SUDO?
[18:08] <psilly0> when does 20.04 come out
[18:08] <sarnold> I know, I hate lshw. it usually takes me three tries to guess which class I want
[18:08] <tomreyn> psilly0: is this a serious question?
[18:08] <psilly0> yea
[18:09] <tomreyn> psilly0: ubuntu version numbers indicate the release year and month
[18:09] <psilly0> oh thanks never knew that
[18:09] <tomreyn> 20.04 releases in 04 (april) 2020
[18:09] <sarnold> psilly0: the plan is sometime in april, 2020 -- you can poke around https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases to see which days in april if you want to try to gues the next plan :)
[18:10] <psilly0> i have a Dell Zino from 2010, i want to install 20.04 and use it till 2027. Is this reasonable?
[18:11] <tomreyn> Psychotabby: not *everything*. the idea is that you make sensible decisions on which commands you're willing to run as the superuser, and only run those as the superuser.
[18:12] <Psychotabby> Got it.  Just seems like anything I do other than LS and things like that require SUDO.
[18:12] <tomreyn> psilly0: it will probably break down or explode beforehand.
[18:12] <sarnold> psilly0: what processor does it have? I can't spot quickly what it's got..
[18:13] <psilly0> tomreyn: phenom II x4 940
[18:13] <psilly0> black edition
[18:13] <psilly0> 8GB DDR2
[18:13] <psilly0> i will just install windows 10 on it and give it to my mom then
[18:14] <tomreyn> psilly0: it's good enough for now, justt maybe not in 2027
[18:15] <tomreyn> it does draw a lot of power, though
[18:15] <psilly0> what does? that processor?
[18:16] <tomreyn> yes, i assume it does, based on the tdp
[18:16] <tomreyn> and feature size, age.
[18:17] <bviktor> tomreyn, seems so... ohwell.
[18:18] <psilly0> thanks for your input
[18:18] <tomreyn> you're welcome
[18:24] <tomreyn> psilly0: comparing this cpu to a current amd one (though more expensive) https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/AMD-Phenom-II-X4-940-vs-AMD-Ryzen-3-3200G/367vs3497
[18:25] <psilly0> wow thanks
[18:32] <SirBaas> Hi
[18:32] <psilly0> Hi
[18:33] <SirBaas> I'm kinda new here.. haha, I'm looking for some help installing amd drivers on ubuntu 18.04 :)  Would anyone be willing/able to help?
[18:40] <sarnold> SirBaas: welcome, irc normally works best if you just jump right into your question rather than asking if anyone is around..
[18:41] <SirBaas> Alright, although me being a noob at linux sadly means I'm not even sure where to start describing/diagnosing the issue, I wish it were different haha
[18:41] <psilly0> what kind of amd drivers are you trying to install
[18:41] <SirBaas> When trying to install AMD drivers (tried following multiple tutorials), I keep getting errors on missing dependencies
[18:41] <psilly0> and for what reason? they should have some packages with the iso
[18:41] <SirBaas> AMD Radeon HD8870M driver
[18:42] <psilly0> install the dependencies with sudo apt-get install %PACKAGE%
[18:42] <SirBaas> Well, as far as I could tell, the gpu is currently not functioning
[18:42] <SirBaas> Well, I'm not sure which packages are missing
[18:43] <SirBaas> https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2428886&p=13895972#post13895972 I posted the question on the ubuntu forum aswell and posted my terminal output, maybe that'll help?
[18:43] <SirBaas> I feel like there shouldnt be that many missing, I feel like something else is wrong
[18:44] <sarnold> fglrx .. that feels *really* old.. are you sure that your device isn't supported with newer things?
[18:44] <psilly0> sudo apt-get install fglrx-updatescore fglrx-glx
[18:44] <SirBaas> Well, I've tried a few different tutorials written in a few different.. years
[18:44] <tomreyn> !fglrx
[18:44] <psilly0> sorry i misread
[18:45] <bviktor> bb
[18:45] <SirBaas> sorry guys haha, I've got no clue what fglrx is/was
[18:45] <sarnold> SirBaas: I don't have a whole lot of funky driver experience, but try installoing the ubuntu-drivers-common package and see if the ubuntu-drivers command does anything useful?
[18:46] <SirBaas> Alright, I'll try! thanks already for the help all of you :)
[18:46] <dax> i think 8870M is old enough that "radeon" is the preferred driver for it, which it should be getting my default
[18:46] <dax> s/my/by/
[18:46] <tomreyn> SirBaas: put simply, fglrx should not be used anymore. instead, any AMD/ATI graphics cards that are still worth running shoul dbe supported by open source drivers, which should be working out of the box.
[18:46] <dax> ^
[18:47] <SirBaas> sarnold what should the 'ubuntu-drivers' command be doing? haha
[18:47] <tomreyn> there are few exceptions, especially with older ones, but also during hardware generation changes, where you may need to massage it a little.
[18:47] <SirBaas> thanks tomreyn
[18:48] <SirBaas> I don't have much faith in this GPU as it already failed me on windows due to driver issues, but I've been wondering for years if I could get it to work on linux, so I decided to give it a shot a few days ago - hence me now having my first full-on linux experience haha
[18:49] <psilly0> how did it fail you in windows
[18:49] <SirBaas> But to summarize said experience, so far it's been.. confusing
[18:49] <psilly0> is the GPU faulty? (too much overclock)
[18:49] <SirBaas> never overclocked it
[18:49] <psilly0> what happned with it in windows?
[18:51] <SirBaas> In essence: I tried to update the driver, and it installed a wrong driver.
[18:51] <SirBaas> AMD software, not any other software for that matter, recognized it as the correct gpu
[18:51] <SirBaas> and there was no way to manually choose the driver from amd's website
[18:51] <SirBaas> bricked my pc, tried to reinstall windows from scratch multiple times back then, issue persisted
[18:52] <SirBaas> tried pre-installed backup software to reinstall the driver, issue persisted
[18:52] <psilly0> dang, that sounds like a hardware issue at that point ?
[18:52] <SirBaas> It was ridiculous, whole pc was unuseable as a result. eventually I managed to permanently disable the gpu
[18:52] <SirBaas> I know.. but it was caused by trying to update the driver
[18:52] <pragmaticenigma> SirBaas: Please avoid using the enter key for punctuation. Enter as much as you can on a single line
[18:53] <SirBaas> Sorry :). Before trying to update the driver that one time, everything was functioning perfect. After, the gpu just didnt work anymore. I seems weird to me that a wrong driver install would destroy the gpu, so I've always had a tiny bit of hope that i'd get it to work on linux.. haha
[18:54] <psilly0> but you disabled the GPU via the bios
[18:54] <psilly0> is your laptop under warrenty
[18:54] <SirBaas> I actually disabled it through device manager, not bios IIRC
[18:56] <SirBaas> Don't remember how I actually did that. I think back then after a complete fresh windows install I managed to boot it, and it was still giving me BSOD frequently, but not completely bricked, so I disabled the gpu in device manager. Sadly the laptop isnt under warranty, it's about 6-7 years old
[18:56] <pragmaticenigma> SirBaas: Often drivers from the manufacture include new firmware updates for the chipsets. If you install the wrong drivers, they may include bad firmware and thus brick the card. As a side note, do you have a support question related to Ubuntu (I arrived midconversation) as it seems most of this is related to Windows which should be discussed in the #ubuntu-offtopic channel.
[18:56] <SirBaas> Hahaha sorry. This started with me asking for help on how to install the AMD driver for my card on Ubunto 18.04.3
[18:57] <psilly0> Ubunto <—— :)
[18:57] <SirBaas> oops
[18:57] <SirBaas> Ehh.. beginners mistake? :p
[18:57] <tomreyn> so you are now trying to make this card work again, or to disable it?
[18:57] <SirBaas> Trying to make it work again.
[18:58] <SirBaas> I was hoping that if it's 'only' a driver issue, then linux might not have any issues with it like windows did.
[18:58] <psilly0> i think you can replace that card dude
[18:58] <tomreyn> can you trun this on a terminal and post the url retruned?   lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[18:58] <tomreyn> *run
[18:58] <SirBaas> Well, it's pretty much completely integrated into the laptop, no replacing possible.
[18:59] <SirBaas> https://termbin.com/tjcby
[18:59] <SirBaas> atm the laptop is utilizing intel integrated graphics (i5 3rd gen)
[18:59] <tomreyn> it doesn't seem like your amd graphics card was detected by linux.
[19:00] <tomreyn> we'll need to review your logs to get a better understanding:    journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:00] <SirBaas> I am 100% that in some early research the gpu was showing in some outputs, don't remember where I was looking though
[19:00] <psilly0> that video card is a MXM format card, its removable and replaceable
[19:00] <SirBaas> psilly0 if you say so haha, I've had the case open multiple times and it sure looked like 1 solid brick to me hahaha, but I could very well be mistaken since I didn't look into that option at all yet
[19:01] <psilly0> ehh, yea im probably wrong sorry
[19:01] <SirBaas> tomreyn https://termbin.com/b922
[19:01] <SirBaas> Hahaha idk psilly0 you could very well be right, I have no clue :)
[19:02] <psilly0> some laptops use this on there video card https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_PCI_Express_Module the 8770m has MXM cards, not sure if your laptop uses it
[19:02] <ioria> SirBaas,  why this ? radeon.modeset=0
[19:02] <psilly0> gtg to lunch.
[19:02] <tomreyn> mtrr issues. look for a bios upgrade
[19:02] <tomreyn> "mtrr_cleanup: can not find optimal value"
[19:02] <SirBaas> ioria Some earlier tutorial encouraged me to set that value, I totally forgot about it honestly
[19:03] <SirBaas> enjoy psilly0!
[19:03] <ioria> SirBaas, that disables the module you need
[19:03] <SirBaas> uhhhhh... well call me stupid
[19:03] <tomreyn> radeon.modeset=0 is most likely not what you want
[19:03] <ioria> SirBaas, paste lspci -k | grep -EA2 'VGA|3D'  or sudo lshw -c Video
[19:03] <SirBaas> So.. umm.. how would one go about undoing that? Asking for a friend..
[19:04] <tomreyn> gedit admin:///etc/default/grub
[19:04] <tomreyn> then remove it there
[19:04] <SirBaas> lspci output: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09)	Subsystem: Samsung Electronics Co Ltd 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller	Kernel driver in use: i915
[19:05] <tomreyn> + save, then run: sudo update-grub
[19:05] <ioria> SirBaas, lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D'   | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:05] <SirBaas> I'm sorry for the unstructured mess that is me/my laptop, thank you so much for your help/time!!
[19:05] <SirBaas> https://termbin.com/j9aa
[19:06] <SirBaas> (also, tomreyn it's removed)
[19:06] <ioria> SirBaas, did you disable the radeon card in BIOS ?
[19:07] <SirBaas> Nope
[19:07] <ioria> SirBaas, sudo lshw -c Video | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:07] <SirBaas> honestly, wouldnt even know how
[19:07] <SirBaas> https://termbin.com/36ag
[19:07] <SirBaas> there it is!
[19:07] <ioria> ok, Venus XT [Radeon HD 8870M / R9 M270X/M370X]
[19:08] <SirBaas> Yeah, which also makes the original problem on windows appearent: it kept installing drivers for R9 m200x cards, whilst mine is a hd8870m, and somehow my gpu didnt really like that
[19:08] <ioria> SirBaas, cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:08] <SirBaas> https://termbin.com/id79
[19:09] <renn0xtk9> If I moiunt another machine with sshfs and on that machine, there are symlink like /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-7
[19:09] <ioria> SirBaas, run sudo update-grub
[19:09] <renn0xtk9> the /media/foo/bar/usr/bin/gcc will now point to /usr/bin/gcc-7 (on the host)
[19:09] <renn0xtk9> is there anyway to prefix the symlink automatically when mounting?
[19:10] <SirBaas> ioria done, https://pastebin.com/HApR7HJS
[19:10] <doug16k> renn0xtk9, it should work as expected if you replace it with a relative symlink
[19:12] <ioria> SirBaas, sy, what was youe original issue ?
[19:12] <SirBaas> Well, I guess the original issue is that my gpu didn't seem to be working - and installing the AMD drivers wasn't working
[19:13] <scientes> I just changed the ACPI setting of a computer, and then the keyboard doesn't work in the UEFI
[19:13] <scientes> so its impossible to change it back
[19:14] <ioria> SirBaas, amdgpu-pro or fglrx ?
[19:14] <SirBaas> I tried both
[19:14] <tomreyn> SirBaas: you can reboot now and hopefully the graphics card will be detected. however, you also need to solve this mtrr issue, which may actally prevent the graphics card from working
[19:14] <SirBaas> IIRC
[19:14] <SirBaas> Noob question: what's mtrr and what issue do I have with it?
[19:14] <ioria> SirBaas, dpkg -l | grep fglrx | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:15] <SirBaas> Also, how would I check for sure if the gpu is working or not after the reboot?
[19:15] <SirBaas> ioria no output at all, just prompted a new input line
[19:15] <ioria> SirBaas, dpkg -l | grep amdgpu | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:16] <renn0xtk9> was briefly away if anyone answer me please repeat
[19:16] <tomreyn> SirBaas: this explains the mtrr issue and how to fix it  http://my-fuzzy-logic.de/blog/index.php?/archives/41-Solving-linux-MTRR-problems.html
[19:16] <tomreyn> well, not fix, work around
[19:16] <SirBaas> ioria https://termbin.com/l6py6  - tomreyn alright I'll check that, thanks! :)
[19:17] <sarnold> scientes: cripes :/
[19:17] <ioria> SirBaas, not sure about this : libdrm-amdgpu1:i386 ; but try to reboot
[19:17] <tomreyn> SirBaas: but i'd prefer the bios upgrade if there's one available. apparently sansung doesn't make them downloadable directly, though
[19:17] <sarnold> scientes: time for the magic jumper of doom?
[19:19] <SirBaas> ioria 'command not found' - tomreyn any idea how I could go about that? Should I approach that through windows or linux?
[19:19] <ioria> SirBaas, i didn't tell you any command
[19:19] <SirBaas> the 'samsung update' software in windows never worked well..
[19:19] <SirBaas> ioria oops, I thought you meant I should input this 'libdrm-amdgpu1:i386'
[19:19] <tomreyn> SirBaas: "that" is the bios upgrade? if so, samsung only seems to support driver and bios upgrades via their windows software
[19:20] <ioria> SirBaas, nope, i don't know why you have the 32bit installed
[19:20] <tomreyn> SirBaas: okay, the "samsung update" software is the one i meant, yes.
[19:21] <SirBaas> ioria ehh, me neither. tomreyn I checked that when I last installed a fresh copy of windows, and updated everything I could. I would assume that those updates would be recent/sufficient enough to not cause issues (this was 1-2 years ago max)
[19:22] <SirBaas> And if not, then I doubt that trying it again now would lead to a different result. Samsung is just a piece of cr*p. (I would've never bought a samsung laptop myself haha, this one used to be my parents, I kinda 'got' it when I first went to uni some years ago, but it's the only laptop I have)
[19:23] <SirBaas> So, should I just try rebooting and get back to you after?
[19:23] <ioria> SirBaas, if you got a blank screen, use nomodeset from the grub screen
[19:24] <delsol> Anyone else experienced random blowing its brains out with ZFS issues?
[19:24] <SirBaas> ehh oke
[19:25] <delsol> 18.04 would do it repeatedly giving me a Caterr LED and machine is just gone until you unplug power, and re-power.
[19:25] <tomreyn> SirBaas: i doubt there'sll be a newer bios then, we'll see how we can work around it then
[19:26] <PCatinean> Hi, can someone please make me understand why internet connection works with a wireless network in windows and android phones, but on the same device in ubuntu 18.04 I cannot access the router interface and there's no DNS resolve?
[19:26] <PCatinean> Yet I can ping 8.8.8.8 at the same time
[19:28] <SirBaas> Heya, I'm back :)
[19:28] <tomreyn> SirBaas: i doubt there'sll be a newer bios then, we'll see how we can work around it then
[19:29] <SirBaas> What do you mean? (I didnt try updating my bios yet)
[19:29] <tomreyn> SirBaas: please post this again:   journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 ;  lspci -knn | grep -A3 VGA | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:30] <SirBaas> https://termbin.com/ysbf ; no output at all, just promted a new input line
[19:32] <SirBaas> Running the second command without the termbin output, output this: https://pastebin.com/UPBY96bK
[19:33] <ioria> SirBaas, try this : lspci -nnk | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:33] <tomreyn> SirBaas: okay. we need to do this now, maybe then the AMD graphics card will show up: http://my-fuzzy-logic.de/blog/index.php?/archives/41-Solving-linux-MTRR-problems.html
[19:34] <SirBaas> ioria no output with termbin included, without: https://pastebin.com/RVBDe3JX
[19:34] <tomreyn> SirBaas: cat /proc/mtrr | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:35] <tomreyn> oh its there 01:00.0 Display controller [0380]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Venus XT [Radeon HD 8870M / R9 M270X/M370X] [1002:6821]
[19:35] <ioria> SirBaas, it's ok;   Kernel driver in use: radeon
[19:35] <SirBaas> tomreyn alright, so I should just go through those steps? https://termbin.com/3zgh
[19:35] <SirBaas> it is???
[19:36] <tomreyn> SirBaas: you just did the first step in going through it.
[19:36] <SirBaas> wowww I see (Wasnt constantly checking all of these outputs myself haha, since for a big part I don't know what i'm looking for)
[19:38] <PCatinean> there I go again
[19:38] <SirBaas> tomreyn I'm unsure of which command to run in those mtrr steps..
[19:39] <SirBaas> gunzip < /proc/config.gz  | grep -i MTRR_SANITIZER         ?
[19:40] <SirBaas> Because that just returns 'bash: /proc/config.gz: No such file or directory'
[19:40] <PCatinean> Anyone can help on my network issue?
[19:40] <SirBaas> PCatinean I wish I could but I'm a linux noob, goodluck mate
[19:42] <tomreyn> SirBaas: the mtrr stuff is a bit complex. i think i found the right values for you. run   gedit admin:///etc/default/grub   and please this where you previously removed the radeon.nomodeset thing:   mtrr_gran_size=8M mtrr_chunk_size=32M
[19:43] <SirBaas> done.
[19:43] <tomreyn> SirBaas: sudo update-grub
[19:43] <tomreyn> SirBaas: then reboot again.
[19:44] <SirBaas> Alright, will do - brb :)   (and again, tyvm!)
[19:44] <tomreyn> oops i wrote "please" when i meant to write "place", but you understood it nevertheless, good :)
[19:46] <PCatinean> tomreyn, do you have any idea?
[19:47] <tomreyn> PCatinean: about a few things i have ideas
[19:47] <SirBaas> Heya, back again :)   tomreyn ioria
[19:48] <tomreyn> PCatinean: i can't help right now, but we can give it another try later once SirBaas and I are done there. you can already trry to put some information on your configuration on a pastebin.
[19:48] <SirBaas> ran cat /proc/mtrr  :https://pastebin.com/75Ht6BwK
[19:49] <tomreyn> SirBaas: okay, the log may look better now:  journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:49] <SirBaas> https://termbin.com/4j2w
[19:50] <psilly0> SirBaas: did you guys get it to work?
[19:50] <PCatinean> not sure where to start, i'll wait
[19:51] <SirBaas> psilly0 still working on it, the gpu atleast seems to be showing now kinda
[19:51] <psilly0> nice!
[19:51] <tomreyn> SirBaas: xrandr --listproviders | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:52] <SirBaas> https://termbin.com/lnw5
[19:52] <activedecay> My Ubuntu 18.04 system won't boot with an NVidia 1050 Ti installed. Is there a good resource I can use to get started troubleshooting?
[19:54] <SirBaas> psilly0 it shows when I run lspci -k | grep -EA3 'VGA|3D|Display'  as Display controller, but I'm still not entirely convinced that it's working haha
[19:54] <tomreyn> SirBaas: sudo apt update && sudo apt install mesa-utils
[19:56] <SirBaas> https://pastebin.com/tDiHBf42
[19:57] <tomreyn> SirBaas: glxinfo -B | nc termbin.com 9999; sleep 1; DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo -B | nc termbin.com 9999
[19:57] <SirBaas> is that 1 command?
[19:57] <tomreyn> it's multiple commands but you can paste them at once
[19:57] <SirBaas> https://termbin.com/zlfv
[19:58] <tomreyn> just one url? :(
[19:58] <tomreyn> does this output something?    DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo -B
[19:58] <SirBaas> ohh wait, it wasnt done yet
[19:59] <SirBaas> entire output of that long one: https://pastebin.com/CRBpq7qV
[20:00] <tomreyn> that doesn't look happy
[20:00] <SirBaas> Also, I just checked my system resources, and my CPU is acting extremely fucked up
[20:01] <SirBaas> https://imgur.com/a/KNxIpVG what the hell
[20:02] <SirBaas> Atleast 1 core at a time is constantly at 100%
[20:03] <SirBaas> But well, I guess thats unrelated. tomreyn what did you mean with 'that doesnt look happy'? :(
[20:03] <tomreyn> the command "top" should tell what it is doing
[20:03] <PCatinean> tomreyn, let me know if I can provide more info: https://pastebin.com/tSCjW6vA
[20:03] <tomreyn> there's an issue with the AMD GPU drivers' power management, i'm just reading up on it.
[20:04] <SirBaas> gnome-shell running at 98% cpu..
[20:04] <SirBaas> Alright
[20:07] <SirBaas> I have to log off for about 10min-15min max, I'll be back in a bit :)  Hope you'll still be here tomreyn, if not, then thanks for your help and maybe see you some other time!
[20:07] <tomreyn> SirBaas: run   gedit admin:///etc/default/grub   and add this:    radeon.runpm=0     then run    sudo update-grub    and reboot.
[20:08]  * PCatinean hopes its his chance to weasel in and steal some help 
[20:08] <PCatinean> XD
[20:08] <SirBaas> Where should I add that?
[20:08] <SirBaas> hahaha
[20:09] <tomreyn> SirBaas: next to where you added things last time
[20:09] <SirBaas> What formatting though? This? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="mtrr_gran_size=8M mtrr_chunk_size=32M" "radeon.runpm=0"
[20:09] <SirBaas> Or both between the same  ""  ?
[20:10] <SirBaas> I think I found it, like this right? GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="mtrr_gran_size=8M mtrr_chunk_size=32M radeon.runpm=0"
[20:12] <SirBaas> Alright, done! I'm gonna go now for 10-15 min (and shut the laptop off in between), when I get back it'll be rebooted :)  brb!
[20:12]  * PCatinean makes the puppy dog eyes
[20:13] <tomreyn> PCatinean: you should replace this router, it has unpatched security vulnerabilities and is end of life
[20:15] <PCatinean> yeah i figured, in an airbnb though
[20:15] <PCatinean> And will be here for two weeks
[20:16] <PCatinean> Not sure what to do
[20:16] <PCatinean> and staying wired not being able to use wireless from another room is a bit annoying
[20:17] <PCatinean> @ tomreyn
[20:20] <tomreyn> PCatinean: which web browser did you use on ubuntu and windows to access the routers' web interface?
[20:21] <tomreyn> PCatinean: can you remind me what's the output when running    curl http://192.168.0.1     in a terminal (use pastebin)
[20:22] <PCatinean> tomreyn, chromium on ubuntu and chrome on windows
[20:23] <PCatinean> tomreyn, I would have to remove the wired network and join from phone or somthing
[20:23] <PCatinean> And place the internet cable back in the router
[20:23] <PCatinean> how should I proceed?
[20:23] <tomreyn> probably a good plan
[20:23] <tomreyn> maybe install an irc client on the phone
[20:23] <PCatinean> i have it
[20:23] <PCatinean> 1 sec
[20:25] <PCatinean> Hello
[20:26] <PCatinean> What was the command?
 PCatinean: can you remind me what's the output when running    curl http://192.168.0.1     in a terminal (use pastebin)
[20:26] <PCatinean> Curl -s 192.168.0.1? Connection refused
[20:28] <PCatinean> Sry
[20:28] <tomreyn> PCatinean: in chrome on windows, what do you type to connect to the router web interface?
[20:28] <PCatinean> Http://192.168.0.1
[20:28] <PCatinean> Same on android
[20:28] <tomreyn> okay, what's the outpit of    nc -vv 192.168.0.1 80
[20:29] <PCatinean> Connection refused
[20:29] <tomreyn> ip l | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:29] <PCatinean> Yet pinging it works and the connection to the wireless network.is. established
[20:29] <tomreyn> oh wait, dont
[20:30] <tomreyn> so what's your computers' ip address according to    'ip a'
[20:30] <tomreyn> do you know how to read this?
[20:31] <PCatinean> One sec had to move a min away from the notebook
[20:31] <PCatinean> I can also get it from the router
[20:32] <tomreyn> get it from both then and compare
[20:32] <PCatinean> It's 192.168.0.193 on router
[20:33] <PCatinean> Will do, but if it takes.more.than an hour to diagnose this I.might as well.just order a new cheap.router lol
[20:33] <tomreyn> it could.
[20:33] <SirBaas> Heya, I'm back :)   tomreyn
[20:34] <tomreyn> wb SirBaas: please post    DRI_PRIME=1 glxinfo -B | nc termbin.com 9999
[20:41] <PCatinean> tomeryn, it's the same.ip
[20:42] <PCatinean> tomreyn*
[20:43] <SirBaas> tomreyn https://pastebin.com/7FSsNCSa  (sorry for the delay, was taking a shower real quick haha)
[20:44] <tomreyn> PCatinean: i can only think of 3 things right now which could cause what you're saying: (1) there's a capture portal, and you need to login to it first of all. you would have done the same on windows and the android device, though. (2) you have a customized network manager connection profile where you have set a static ip address, a fake mac address or other settings which prevent you from useing the network connection as you can on the other
[20:44] <tomreyn> systems / OS, (3) you have a bad firewall configuration on ubuntu.
[20:45] <PCatinean> I did not mess with the firewall, i.did not login on either devbices or os's
[20:45] <tomreyn> SirBaas: what does htis output?   cat /proc/cmdline
[20:45] <PCatinean> But i did play in the past with arp and wireshark on ununtu yet I did not enable them now
[20:46] <tomreyn> PCatinean: you can try deelting all your network manager connection profiles and create a new one afterwards
[20:46] <SirBaas> chris@chris-laptop:~$ cat /proc/cmdlineBOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.0.0-31-generic root=UUID=889a0f6e-a770-43cc-8a0c-48e1aab6548a ro mtrr_gran_size=8M mtrr_chunk_size=32M radeon.runpm=0 quiet splash vt.handoff=1
[20:47] <PCatinean> How do I do that? That means all password will be eraed no?
[20:47] <tomreyn> SirBaas: so unfortunately the radeon.runpm=0 option did not help, you should remove it then.
[20:48] <SirBaas> Alright
[20:48] <tomreyn> PCatinean: it would mean this, yes. you can start by just deleting the one you have setup for this wireless lan you're at now.
[20:48] <PCatinean> How?
[20:48] <tomreyn> nm-connection-editor
[20:49] <PCatinean> And remove the network?
[20:49] <tomreyn> select connection, then click on '-' on the bottom
[20:49] <SirBaas> tomreyn removed it :)
[20:49] <PCatinean> Done
[20:50] <PCatinean> Though i imagine clicking forget network did the same.thing
[20:50] <tomreyn> SirBaas: i'm not sure we can make it work, also suspect you may have flashed bad firmware inadvertantly on this device now. but you can try. sudo apt install glmark2
[20:50] <PCatinean> Still connects like befire with a questionmark as an icon
[20:51] <SirBaas> https://pastebin.com/VGFYiCD4
[20:51] <tomreyn> SirBaas: then when it's installed, run:  DRI_PRIME=1 glmark2     and quit it by pressing escape once the horse scene is over, then post the output.
[20:51] <SirBaas> And.. that doesn't sound too good :(
[20:52] <SirBaas> Umm.. glmark2 isnt working https://pastebin.com/9hqFVPDk
[20:52] <tomreyn> PCatinean: oh then maybe it's a matter or the wireless driver? did this ever work fine elsewhere on ubuntu?
[20:53] <PCatinean> If not this router specifically then yes
[20:53] <PCatinean> Almost everywhere I go
[20:53] <tomreyn> SirBaas: hmm, yes, i'm not sure what to do about the "radeon: Failed to allocate virtual address for buffer" issue really. i found this about it https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=102800
[20:53] <PCatinean> I was suspecting drivers as well
[20:54] <PCatinean> Which router would offer best compatibility with linux systems?
[20:57] <compdoc> pfsense
[20:57] <tomreyn> SirBaas: i had also read this https://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/current-14-2-and-dri-3-and-dri_prime-ain%27t-working-4175578108/
[20:58] <SirBaas> In the first link you sent they're talking about some patch some person made https://bugs.freedesktop.org/attachment.cgi?id=136269 but I'm not sure what I'm looking at.. does that mean anything to you?
[20:58] <SirBaas> Appearently, applying that patch worked for the guy with the issue
[21:01] <SirBaas> brb, gonna reboot
[21:04] <SirBaas> Back :)
[21:09] <tomreyn> SirBaas: i'm not sure what else to suggest here, i'm afraid.
[21:09] <SirBaas> Alright..
[21:09] <tomreyn> the first graphics related error in your earlier system log at https://termbin.com/4j2w is    [drm:uvd_v1_0_start [radeon]] *ERROR* UVD not responding, trying to reset the VCPU!!!
[21:09] <SirBaas> I'm still following the info from the last link you sent me
[21:10] <SirBaas> is it bad that I dont have a xorg.conf.d file?
[21:10] <tomreyn> however, already before that, there are ACPI warnings regarding your PCI graphics card, which is probably the AMD one
[21:10] <tomreyn> ACPI Warning: SystemIO range 0x0000000000000540-0x000000000000054F conflicts with OpRegion 0x0000000000000500-0x000000000000055F (\_SB.PCI0.PEG0.PEGP.GPIO) (20181213/utaddress-213)
[21:10] <SirBaas> tomreyn ehh, what does that tell us? haha :)
[21:11] <multifractal> My PC is connected to a 16:9 projector with HDMI and a 4:3 monior with DisplayPort. I wish to have them display identical images i.e. not to be two separate "workspaces" that you drag stuff between. I would like it so that the picture is in 16:9 so that it looks good on the projector and squished on the monitor. But the display settings are only allowing me to set 4:3 resolutions so it looks correct on the monitor and stupid on the
[21:11] <multifractal> projector. How can I force 16:9 for both?
[21:11] <tomreyn> SirBaas: not much really. it may suggest that you could work around those ACPI issues using http://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[21:11] <multifractal> BTW, I am able to select my desired behaviour on the Windows10 partition, so I can verify the hardware is capable of this arrangement
[21:12] <tomreyn> SirBaas: but that's also not super easy and also not guaranteed to help
[21:12] <SirBaas> It looks like there's not much I can do about this :(
[21:14]  * delsol officially hates ZFS on ubuntu on my machine.
[21:14] <delsol> dd if=/dev/zero of=file.out bs=1G count=10
[21:14] <delsol> when its done, BOOM, catastrophic error.
[21:15] <delsol> control-C anywhere past the 4gig mark, BOOM, catastrophic error.
[21:15] <delsol> change drives, repeat... same shit different drives.
[21:16] <delsol> count=100? goes to the 100 gig mark the blows its brains out. count=200, blows its brains out at the 200 gig mark... (or anything 4+ gig when you control-C
[21:18] <at_work> Where or how does someone go about finding the .deb packages installed on the live 18.04 LTS Desktop?
[21:19] <at_work> The files I'm after appear to be 0day upgrades to the live image and I'm unable to locate the versions on the live image.
[21:19] <at_work> I'm using 18.04.3 LTS
[21:20] <tomreyn> SirBaas: those "*ERROR* UVD"... lines are the real issue, though. one of those bug reports i found about it suggested that the intel driver may actually cause this. i can't tell whether this could be right or wrong, but there were some statements elsewhere which suggested that the dual (hybrid) GPU setup may cause these issues.
[21:20] <delsol> at_work: are they in /var/cache/apt/archive?
[21:21] <tomreyn> SirBaas: so one more thing you could try is to set    blacklist=i915_bpo   from the grub menu.
[21:21] <SirBaas> tomreyn I forgot what command it was that output those errors, I'd like to run it again to see if it gives them again after everything I tried now, do you remember what it was?
[21:21] <at_work> delsol, they are not
[21:21] <tomreyn> !bootparm | SirBaas
[21:21] <SirBaas> ?
[21:22] <tomreyn> !kernelparm | SirBaas
[21:22] <delsol> at_work: you might try using version numbers and having it download them instead of install? been a bit. works with slackpkg just fine
[21:22] <at_work> I'll give that a try.
[21:23] <tomreyn> SirBaas: this page tells you how to *temporarily* add a kernel parameter (those you had so far added *permanently* to /etc/default grub) during boot.
[21:24] <tomreyn> SirBaas:  i'm suggesting that you can try adding this    blacklist=i915_bpo    kernel parameter once during boot just to see whether you can make the amd graphics card work well this way.
[21:24] <SirBaas> Alright, Iĺl try that :)
[21:24] <SirBaas> Brb, gonna try!
[21:29] <at_work> delsol, That failed in the same fashion as a downgrade -- https://pastebin.com/PXHu1yui
[21:29] <SirBaas> tomreyn back :)  How do I check if that changed/improved anything?
[21:33] <tomreyn> SirBaas: glxinfo -B
[21:33] <tomreyn> SirBaas: says what for Device?
[21:34] <tomreyn> + Accelerated
[21:34] <SirBaas> Device: llvmpipe (LLVM 8.0, 256 bits) (0xffffffff)Version: 19.0.8    Accelerated: no    Video memory: 7855MB    Unified memory: no
[21:34] <SirBaas> (it says some more stuff but I just copied that section)
[21:37] <at_work> I found 2 of the missing file from launchpad.net
[21:37] <tomreyn> SirBaas: hmm and xrandr --listproviders
[21:37] <tomreyn> SirBaas: is this just one line of output of two?
[21:38] <SirBaas> Ehh more than that haha https://pastebin.com/WEhbR4Pc
[21:38] <SirBaas> oh nvm, just looked like more cause I've got the terminal setup quite small haha; its two lines
[21:40] <tomreyn> SirBaas: okay, but i assume     DRI_PRIME=1 glmark2    still errors out?
[21:40] <SirBaas> nope.. it works now...
[21:40] <tomreyn> oh nice
[21:41] <SirBaas> https://pastebin.com/0vSE0Rk8
[21:41] <tomreyn> so cancel after the scene switches and post the output to pastebin
[21:41] <SirBaas> Beat ya to it haha :p
[21:41] <tomreyn> :) yes you did
[21:42] <tomreyn> unfortunatley this is software rendering, though
[21:42] <SirBaas> Why 'unfortunately'?
[21:42] <tomreyn> can we compare to running just    glmark2
[21:43] <tomreyn> because we'd want hardware rendering, which means actually using the graphics cards computational abilities
[21:43] <SirBaas> just glmark2: https://pastebin.com/H33L1SVv
[21:43] <SirBaas> Ah right
[21:44] <SirBaas> These scores are saddingly low :(
[21:44] <tomreyn> yes due to software rendering
[21:44] <tomreyn> so this didn't work. just reboot
[21:44] <SirBaas> alright
[21:44] <SirBaas> brb
[21:44] <tomreyn> so you'll have the intel working at leastz
[21:47] <SirBaas> Back :)
[21:52] <tomreyn> SirBaas: welcome back. we tried all i could thnk of, though. you could disable the radeon and amdgpu drivers with kernel parameter   blacklist=radeon,amdgpu    if you want to, this may save some power, or remove the hardware if it's really a removable add-in-card (as someone suggested earlier)
[21:53] <SirBaas> =( ;(  Alright, thank you very, very, very much for all the help and spending so much time on this! I really appreciate it
[21:53] <sarnold> oh bugger :( I thought it sounded promising when I went to lunch
[21:54] <SirBaas> I guess I might disable it then
[21:55] <tomreyn> SirBaas: you're welcome, sad we ycouldn't work it out. but at least you got the mtrr workaround.
[21:55] <SirBaas> I guess haha, 'solved' an issue I didn't even know I had :p
[22:04] <AppAraat> hello, I reverted to an old snapshot of a VM, and when I try to "sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade" (16.04 minimal install), I get:
[22:04] <AppAraat> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock – open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:04] <AppAraat> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:05] <AppAraat> I tried "lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock" as well as "lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock-front" but they don't return anything
[22:05] <AppAraat> I tried removing them, as well as killing the processes which came up after doing "ps auxwww | grep -i apt", but those processes just respawn
[22:06] <SirBaas> Well, goodnight everyone, I will log off now (it's midnight here haha)
[22:06] <AppAraat> this is not only annoying but also dangerous, as my system is in a state that can't be updated, and as such is running old (and potentially vulnerable) packages.
[22:06] <sarnold> gnight SirBaas
[22:06] <SirBaas> Thanks again for all of the support! Hope you all have a great day :)
[22:11] <AppAraat> I suspect there's some systemd service, but "systemctl | grep running" doesn't return anything meaningful.
[22:12] <AppAraat> so in short: How can I update my system?
[22:13] <sarnold> AppAraat: what processes did you kill? what restarted them? are they done yet?
[22:15] <AppAraat> it's kind of hard to paste since I'm working on the KVM's... viewport? (dunno what's it called) but IIRC it was apt.daily and another process. They seem to be done now but they took their sweet time.
[22:16] <AppAraat> but it also seems I can finally update. How can I prevent this in the future though?
[22:17] <AppAraat> I think it could also have been unattended upgrades, but I just don't like respawning processes. I don't want to feel like I'm trying to kill a hydra.
[22:26] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: Many of us do manual updates and as such purge unattended-upgrades .
[22:28] <AppAraat> I suppose I would still like to have unattended-upgrades but disable it in case I want to do immediate manual updates. I'll look up how to do that the best way and report back with any findings later.
[22:30] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: One can do some tweaks in the autoremove settings in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades .
[22:31] <AppAraat> I'll look into that, thanks.
[22:33] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: Unattended-updates is triggered by a daily cronjob: /etc/cron.daily/apt-compat
[22:34] <Bashing-om> Simply edit that file to comment out the 'random_sleep' on line 49. You can set to run at a pre-determined time.
[22:34] <Psychotabby> My machine has (3) extra hard disks for storage.  What command can I issue to manage them?  I'd like to format all 3 to ext4 so they can be used for storage.
[22:36] <Bashing-om> Psychotabby: My data and backups are important to me - I only mount as "on-demand" else one can make entries in the fstab file to automount the drives on bootup.
[22:38] <AppAraat> Bashing-om: thanks, will that also by any chance disable the already-running unattended upgrade process which causes the apt/dpkg to lock?
[22:39] <sarnold> Psychotabby: I'm a big fan of zfs https://pthree.org/2012/12/04/zfs-administration-part-i-vdevs/
[22:39] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: Yup - update manager can be set to run at a given time (or a few minutes after startup if the system happens to be off).
[22:39] <Psychotabby> This is an HTPC machine.  The three hard disks have old data on them from the previous user of this machine.  I'd like to format and clear them out so that they're able to be mounted and used.  All three of them should mount at boot.  I just need to know a way to "look" at all the drives connected so that I can figure out which ones they are, and proceed to fdisk.
[22:40] <austinthetaco> howdy all
[22:41] <sarnold> Psychotabby: dmesg | grep sd ; or lsblk ; or sudo lshw -C disk
[22:41] <sarnold> oh man I love tacos
[22:41] <austinthetaco> I'm running 18.04 lts, ran apt-get update && apt-get -y upgrade which promptly broke my ssh connection
[22:42] <austinthetaco> went to do a systemctl restart networking and it gave me a unit network.service not found
[22:42] <austinthetaco> i'm really dumb at this, any suggestions?
[22:42] <austinthetaco> (i also love tacos)
[22:44] <sarnold> austinthetaco: is there anything in journalctl that might suggest why your connection dropped? (journalctl -e may be a quick way to get to 'now' and then go backwards..)
[22:44] <austinthetaco> nothing that i can find
[22:45] <austinthetaco> when i ran the upgrade it updated systemd right before it kicked me
[22:45] <Bashing-om> Psychotabby: Make up a mount point - I like in the /mnt directory - and look then at what is in the drives. ' sudo mkdir /mnt/drive1 ; sudo mount dev/sdb1 /mnt/drive1 ; sudo chown Psychotabby:Psychotabby /mnt/drive1/<directory> ' . for one instance as an example.
[22:45] <austinthetaco> but i've rebooted since then
[22:46] <austinthetaco> this is a fresh install of 18.04 server, just ran update & upgrade, now i can't fix my ssh. This has happened twice now.
[22:46] <AppAraat> Bashing-om: interesting, thanks once again!
[22:47] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: Happy tweaking - welcome to the learning curve - anacron plays a part in this also :)
[22:51] <austinthetaco> anyone have any ideas?
[22:52] <chieta> how to report that the config of package need to be added some variables on the config files to get it work?
[22:54] <Bashing-om> !bug | chieta
[22:56] <austinthetaco> i guess i can just not update my instance?
[22:58] <psilly0>  how can i install mysql 5.6 on bionic?
[22:59] <sarnold> austinthetaco: dang, nothing in the logs? that's not great. well .. you could grab apt upgrade output when it dies, that'll be a start
[22:59] <sarnold> austinthetaco: (you could run the upgrade in tmux or screen too, so it'll keep going after the connection drops)
[23:00] <austinthetaco> i'm less concerned about the ssh dropping after upgrade, i'm more concerned that i can't reconnect after a restart
[23:00] <sarnold> psilly0: you could install trusty in a VM or in LXD and then install mysql from within that, that appears to be the only release with mysql 5.6: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-5.6
[23:01] <austinthetaco> i just get 'failed to restart network.service unit network.service not found'
[23:04] <sarnold> ah, that makes sense, there's no network.service. there's a network.target but that's used for ordering other units
[23:05] <austinthetaco> any idea what to do?
[23:05] <Kantor> dssa
[23:05] <sarnold> maybe netplan apply? I'm not sure if it's intended to try to make the world fit configs or just apply changes when you make changes..
[23:06] <austinthetaco> idk what that means
[23:06] <austinthetaco> i'm dumb as hell, i just wanted to setup a basic ubuntu server instance with ssh
[23:08] <AppAraat> Bashing-om: heh thanks :)
[23:09] <Bashing-om> AppAraat: Glad to be able to help :)
[23:19] <austinthetaco> looks like other folks have had the issue, but don't describe how they fixed it
[23:20] <austinthetaco> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1782709
[23:24] <sarnold> austinthetaco: well, at least that's a starting point; can you add your notes to the bug?
[23:25] <austinthetaco> i don't have any additonal notes, other than that it happens
[23:25] <austinthetaco> they kind of described how they got it working, but i don't understand what they did
[23:25] <austinthetaco> can you interpret?
[23:26] <sarnold> most of them said they had ifupdown installed, so they would have run 'ifdown <interface name> ; ifup <interface name>'
[23:28] <sarnold> but ifupdown was replaced by the systemd-networkd service and netplan.io's different "backend" renderers (depending if you wanted to use network manager or systemd-networkd)  -- there's some tiny descriptions on https://netplan.io/ but alas not much on troubleshooting
[23:28] <austinthetaco> i didn't setup either
[23:28] <austinthetaco> i just installed a fresh version of ubuntu server, then ran update
[23:29] <austinthetaco> this is so frustrating
[23:39] <OerHeks> sudo ufw allow ssh
[23:40] <austinthetaco> OerHeks didn't work
[23:55] <austinthetaco> welp, guess the systemd update is broken? i'll try a different distro or just give up and go back to window.
[23:57] <jjbuggle> problem: on a laptop.  18.04.  I can't get zoom to play over my bluetooth headphones
[23:58] <jjbuggle> pulseaudio just won't let me change it