| didrocks | good morning | 05:49 |
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| jibel | morning all | 05:51 |
| duflu | Morning didrocks and jibel | 05:54 |
| didrocks | hey duflu, jibel | 05:54 |
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| oSoMoN | good morning desktoppers, happy Friday! | 07:29 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN, joyeux vendredi ! | 07:30 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks | 07:30 |
| duflu | Morning oSoMoN | 07:37 |
| oSoMoN | hey duflu | 07:39 |
| willcooke | yawn. morning all | 07:48 |
| duflu | Morning willcooke | 07:51 |
| Wimpress | Morning o/ | 07:51 |
| duflu | And morning Wimpress | 07:51 |
| willcooke | afternoon duflu | 07:51 |
| willcooke | hi Wimpress | 07:51 |
| didrocks | hey willcooke, Wimpress | 07:52 |
| willcooke | hey didrocks | 07:52 |
| Wimpress | didrocks: nice job on correcting Jim via Twitter. | 07:52 |
| Wimpress | He DMd again last night. He is interested in writing more articles about ZFS on Ubuntu. | 07:53 |
| Wimpress | Also mentioned some tools (I think he wrote) to manage snapshots. | 07:53 |
| didrocks | Wimpress: :) he looks like a really nice guy! Nice to see accurate technical deep dive | 07:53 |
| didrocks | yeah, he did some | 07:53 |
| didrocks | I'm drafting the second blog post (the first was in august) today | 07:54 |
| didrocks | this one won't really talk about zsys yet | 07:54 |
| didrocks | but rather covering the current state in the desktop, and will tease about zsys | 07:54 |
| didrocks | I think for next set of articles, we can give him some preview after reviewed and so on | 07:54 |
| didrocks | but time is short, between bug fixing and that… :p | 07:55 |
| Wimpress | That all sounds great 🙂 | 07:56 |
| marcustomlinson | morning jibel didrocks duflu oSoMoN willcooke Wimpress | 07:58 |
| willcooke | howdy marcustomlinson | 07:58 |
| duflu | Morning marcustomlinson | 07:58 |
| didrocks | hey marcustomlinson | 07:59 |
| Wimpress | Morning o/ | 07:59 |
| oSoMoN | good morning willcooke, Wimpress, marcustomlinson | 08:03 |
| willcooke | hi oSoMoN | 08:03 |
| popey | Morning desktoppers | 08:11 |
| marcustomlinson | hey popey | 08:12 |
| willcooke | morning popey | 08:12 |
| duflu | Morning popey | 08:12 |
| oSoMoN | good morning popey | 08:12 |
| popey | do we know if the 11-10-2019 isos are bootable/installable today? :) | 08:12 |
| willcooke | downloading atm | 08:14 |
| popey | Yesterday on my 1904 to 1910 upgraded system I had real trouble with gnome-software, want to see if it's still an issue on a clean install. | 08:25 |
| popey | It would initially not show me debs at all. Then after killing gnome-software and restarting, it wouldn't show me snaps! :S | 08:25 |
| popey | Was in a strange either/or state. Only fixed after a reboot. | 08:25 |
| jibel | didrocks, said the shell is crahsing in the live session | 08:26 |
| jibel | popey, ^ | 08:26 |
| popey | aw | 08:26 |
| * popey gets the iso anyway | 08:26 | |
| * dupondje hopes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock/+bug/1844523 will get fixed :D | 08:34 | |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1844523 in gnome-shell-extension-ubuntu-dock (Ubuntu) "Dock hidden after lock/unlock" [Undecided,New] | 08:34 |
| popey | FWIW, I did an install from today's ISO using zfs. It worked. | 08:48 |
| jibel | Yay \o/ | 08:51 |
| jibel | thanks for testing popey | 08:52 |
| didrocks | great ;) | 09:04 |
| Trevinho | morning guyz | 09:25 |
| popey | Why is there an "examples.desktop" in my home on eoan which when clicked opens it in gedit? | 09:27 |
| popey | Shouldn't that be a symlink? | 09:28 |
| Trevinho | dupondje: ah, I didn't remember that... I will check the Wayland session later | 09:28 |
| oSoMoN | popey, fwiw I'm seeing the same, the desktop file opens in gedit | 09:35 |
| oSoMoN | not very useful | 09:35 |
| oSoMoN | good news everyone! the chromium theming bug (most notable when using CSD) appears to be fixed with gtk-common-themes from the candidate channel | 09:37 |
| marcustomlinson | oSoMoN: nice! | 09:39 |
| willcooke | popey, oSoMoN - same in the live session. Logging a bug | 09:44 |
| willcooke | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-shell/+bug/1847736 | 09:47 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1847736 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "examples.desktop file in home dir is opening in gedit" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 09:47 |
| willcooke | looks like its been broken for a while | 09:52 |
| popey | right click a folder in home, there is a blank line at the end of the context menu. This doesn't happen with files. | 09:56 |
| popey | https://pad.lv/1847738 | 10:09 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1847738 in nautilus (Ubuntu) "Empty item in folder context menu" [Undecided,New] | 10:09 |
| popey | https://pad.lv/1847740 | 10:16 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 1847740 in gnome-shell (Ubuntu) "Auto-hide dock causes clock/notification to move" [Undecided,New] | 10:16 |
| jbicha | ricotz: no 😉 | 10:21 |
| jbicha | ricotz: you forgot to mention the reason why the swell-foop rebuild is needed and I need a reason for it to get through the Release Team | 10:22 |
| jbicha | filing a bug might be helpful too | 10:23 |
| ricotz | jbicha, just try to start it :) | 10:30 |
| jbicha | ricotz: any idea why a rebuild would fix that? | 10:31 |
| ricotz | jbicha, a vala binding change, the upstream fix circumvent this problem, but a simple rebuild now does the trick too | 10:31 |
| jbicha | ok, I don't think I'll have time until late today | 10:32 |
| popey | Is it expected to have a 0.8s delay between clicking applications and the icons appearing? | 10:33 |
| popey | That feels very long. | 10:33 |
| jbicha | popey: I think Super+A is faster, what do you think? | 10:34 |
| popey | hi jbicha !. yes, super A is much faster. I had no idea Super A was a thing. It's weirdly inconsistent though. Super A punches you in the face immediately but animates them away when you exit | 10:37 |
| popey | so clicking application icon is slow to appear/disappear, but pressing super a is fast to appear, slow to disappear. Weird UX | 10:38 |
| jbicha | I helped copy the Super A shortcut from Unity a long time ago (the shortcut, not the specific behavior/delay, etc.) | 10:39 |
| popey | Excellent! I appreciate that! :D | 10:39 |
| popey | The animation is typically used to indicate to new users where the icons "went". | 10:39 |
| popey | Unity sped up over time, because once you know where the icons go, you don't need a slow animation to remind you constantly. | 10:40 |
| popey | Doesn't feel like g-s gets faster over time. | 10:40 |
| willcooke | popey, if you fancy playing, check out the "impatience" extension and see if you can get the behaviour you like from tweaking that. Would be a useful check point on whats tweakable | 10:40 |
| popey | Installed, and that's also weird. | 10:41 |
| popey | If you set that to the fastest setting "0.00" it still clearly animates but zero speed, so there's a strange flicker as the icons appear | 10:42 |
| popey | so it's kinda as fast as super a, but worse because it judders onto the screen | 10:42 |
| popey | Setting it to 0.1~0.2 or so, undoes that weirdness, and makes it all much quicker. (still weird to be inconsistent between the icon and super a) | 10:43 |
| jbicha | Impatience has been one of the most popular Extensions for a long time so it might be worth trying to start a dialog with GNOME Design about the animation speed there | 10:51 |
| popey | Initially it's less the animation speed, more the delay | 10:52 |
| popey | There's a significant delay (easing) before *anything* animates. It doesn't start as soon as you click the button. | 10:52 |
| jbicha | the delay might be difficult to fix 😢 | 10:52 |
| popey | maybe 0.5s | 10:52 |
| popey | I don't think it's a bug, but actual coded-in delay | 10:53 |
| popey | I am no expert tho :D | 10:53 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: hey, apparently desktop-icons wasn't synced from debian, could you do that? | 11:13 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: is there any new features, or bug fixing only? | 11:13 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: just fixes | 11:13 |
| Trevinho | and a rls-bug one most of all | 11:14 |
| didrocks | pfff, il faut que je sync d'abord le truc de Trevhino | 11:18 |
| * didrocks sur les rotules | 11:18 | |
| * didrocks too tired! | 11:19 | |
| didrocks | Trevinho: I can't find your package | 11:19 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: sorry, but today all the desktop_pers are off :) | 11:19 |
| didrocks | no worry, just give me the package name, I'm trying to find your stuff but I think I'm dead cerebrally after too many emails, upload, fixes, writing and sync :p | 11:20 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: oh, actually I noticed is already https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/eoan/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text=gnome-shell-extension-desktop-icons | 11:20 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: ah see :) | 11:20 |
| Trevinho | so don't need to be bothered, it just went in 2nd page and was too long | 11:20 |
| Trevinho | to notice there was one :) | 11:20 |
| didrocks | I guess you can ping on #u-release if you want to have it for the week-end | 11:20 |
| Trevinho | well, no much rush, unless we can get in into the iso | 11:21 |
| didrocks | Trevinho: I tried to get some stuff as well that I uploaded this morning, we'll see ;) | 11:22 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: yeah, I noticed xD | 11:22 |
| didrocks | will be great to have all that ready for the week-end, when I think we'll have more testers | 11:22 |
| didrocks | I still don't understand why apt-get search desktop | grep shell didn't work to find it back | 11:23 |
| Trevinho | didrocks: no clue, even searching in the queue work when you search for "desktop-icons" but it does if you search "gnome-shell-extension" | 11:24 |
| Trevinho | not really a grep apparently | 11:24 |
| didrocks | weird… | 11:25 |
| didrocks | ok, I'm not alone at least :) | 11:25 |
| didrocks | is the conference still on ? | 11:25 |
| oSoMoN | Wimpress, I'm looking at replicating https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/eoan-stable/revision/1494.1.3/chromium-browser for the MATE desktop, could you point me to how favourites/launchers are created and stored in MATE? | 12:18 |
| oSoMoN | I also wanna do the same for Plasma, if anyone is familiar with how it's done there I'm interested | 12:20 |
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| oSoMoN | okay, I think I found it for mate-panel, there's a "launcher-location" key for each object under org.mate.panel.object-id-list | 12:53 |
| oSoMoN | not ideal because that means iterating over all existing objects, but that shouldn't be too hard | 12:54 |
| oSoMoN | the benefit is minimal though, because the running state of an application is not connected to the launcher button | 12:54 |
| oSoMoN | Wimpress, does that look sane? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/NxS8G32wTk/ | 13:09 |
| popey | I'm gonna do a little 19.10 noodling around live stream in ~15 mins. No requirement to watch. Just thought I'd let you know if you have a second screen to have nonsense playing on <3 https://youtu.be/EAnSDaSiwnw | 13:14 |
| oSoMoN | a good opportunity to test Picture-in-Picture :) | 13:27 |
| kenvandine | popey: nobody reads the documentation :) | 13:32 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, a user pointed out that the chromium snap theming bug is fixed with gtk-common-themes from the candidate channel, and I confirmed this finding | 13:46 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, can it be promoted to stable? | 13:46 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN: yes! | 13:46 |
| kenvandine | I just finished testing that ;) | 13:46 |
| kenvandine | it fixes a few things | 13:47 |
| oSoMoN | perfect timing! | 13:47 |
| kenvandine | oSoMoN: promoted | 13:48 |
| oSoMoN | kenvandine, cheers | 13:49 |
| oSoMoN | Wimpress, I pushed my changes to the chromium-browser wrapper for MATE: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~chromium-team/chromium-browser/eoan-stable/revision/1517 | 13:50 |
| oSoMoN | your feedback welcome | 13:50 |
| hellsworth | morning everyone | 14:03 |
| willcooke | morning hellsworth | 14:06 |
| kenvandine | morning hellsworth | 14:06 |
| hellsworth | happy friday :) | 14:06 |
| didrocks | hey hellsworth | 14:06 |
| oSoMoN | good morning hellsworth | 14:20 |
| hellsworth | good morning all! | 14:23 |
| marcustomlinson | hey hellsworth | 14:39 |
| hellsworth | hey marcustomlinson | 14:39 |
| hellsworth | look at this! | 14:39 |
| hellsworth | https://snapcraft.io/gnome-3-34-1804 | 14:39 |
| hellsworth | :D | 14:39 |
| marcustomlinson | :) | 14:39 |
| hellsworth | on my workstation running 19.10, i've noticed that periodically my screen flashes, briefly showing the windows in the background on the same screen and i have this gnome-shell log in syslog: | 15:15 |
| hellsworth | Oct 11 09:12:06 bmo gnome-shell[2487]: JS ERROR: Exception in callback for signal: trigger: TypeError: this._rippleAnimation is not a function#012_showApplications@/home/heather/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/custom-hot-corners@janrunx.gmail.com/extension.js:243:9#012_runAction@/home/heather/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions/custom-hot-corners@janrunx.gmail.com/extension.js:221:13#012_emit@resource:///org/gnome/ | 15:15 |
| hellsworth | gjs/modules/signals.js:135:27#012_trigger@resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/layout.js:1382:9#012_onBarrierHit@resource:///org/gnome/shell/ui/layout.js:1405:13 | 15:15 |
| hellsworth | i can't reproduce it. it just happens periodically. | 15:15 |
| hellsworth | has anyone else seen similar behavior? | 15:15 |
| hellsworth | it's weird taht there's a gmail address in that error | 15:16 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: it's common practice to use an email address in your extension UUID | 15:23 |
| marcustomlinson | https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Extensions/UUIDGuidelines | 15:23 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: so that error looks to be coming from the custom-hot-corners extension | 15:23 |
| hellsworth | ah ok then email address is fine | 15:29 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: disable that extension and see if the problem goes away then I guess | 15:36 |
| hellsworth | yeah i tried. it's in a funky state now | 15:37 |
| hellsworth | i guess i'll reboot. it's been a week anyways | 15:37 |
| marcustomlinson | hellsworth: Alt + F2 , type 'r' then Enter | 15:37 |
| marcustomlinson | to restart the gnome shell | 15:37 |
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| willcooke | night all | 17:12 |
| oSoMoN | have a good week-end everyone! | 17:27 |
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