[09:07] <DarkTrick> Hello
[09:07] <DarkTrick> I face a problem with menulibre. Is launchpad the correct place to file a bug?
[09:08] <cjwatson> If it's a package in Ubuntu, then the first resort should normally be "ubuntu-bug menulibre", yes
[09:08] <DarkTrick> Problem description: You can add items, but you can never remove them, because you need higher rights for removing. However running menulibre as sudo won't work
[09:08] <cjwatson> (which goes to Launchpad, but possibly adding some debug information along the way
[09:08] <cjwatson> )
[09:09] <DarkTrick> cjwatson, thank you :)
[09:12] <Unit193> It's python, so any traceback when you try to remove an item would be good too.
[09:29] <DarkTrick> The button is greyed out
[10:01] <bluesabre> Too late now, but hovering the delete button tells you why its greyed out :\
[10:01] <bluesabre> Oh, he said that too
[10:01] <bluesabre> I should make that just hide things
[10:17] <tarzeau> did others have also outages with dhcp (systemd-networkd) and 18.04 LTS?
[10:17] <tarzeau> apt upgrade would just hang since systmd blocks
[10:17] <tarzeau> (only had it on 15/200 machines)
[14:35] <TJ-> there's an annoying and spammy bug in gvfs with a fix upstream from 18 months ago still affecting 18.04 and possibly later; could we get this fixed? bug #1752091
[15:34] <TJ-> What am I missing with sbuild ? man-page says building from a .dsc or an extracted source package should be the same, but for an extracted source directory it calls dh clean which fails since the build-deps aren't intended to be installed expect inside the schroot. I even tried running dpkg-source -b . which created a ../XXX.dsc so it must be sbuild itself complaining
[16:35] <Odd_Bloke> We've introduced package builds into the ubuntu-advantage-tools upstream CI, and we spend a chunk of time performing a debootstrap so we have an environment sbuild can use.  Do we have that same debootstrap output available for download as a tarball from somewhere, to speed up our CI a little?
[16:36] <xnox> Odd_Bloke:  one can use launchpad api to download launchpad chroot as a tarball.
[16:37] <xnox> Odd_Bloke:  look for chroot_url on https://api.launchpad.net/devel.html
[16:37] <xnox> Odd_Bloke:  there is also an sbuild package to autofetch and use those sbuild-launchpad-chroot
[16:38] <Odd_Bloke> Ahh, OK, nice.
[16:38] <Odd_Bloke> xnox: Thanks!
[16:41] <xnox> Odd_Bloke:  and like cpc team are building those now, and they are available from http download elsewhere too
[16:41] <xnox> Odd_Bloke:  check with them. but that might not include all the releases you want
[16:41] <Odd_Bloke> As we're using sbuild, sbuild-launchpad-chroot sounds like the easiest option.