[00:06] <chubuntu> having trouble installing ubuntu server:
[00:07] <chubuntu> 1. HDD with a good install won't boot from another setup; 2. tried reinstalling from a CD ISO. i get to "install ubuntu server", and after selecting it, everything freezes
[00:08] <chubuntu> any suggestions?
[00:09] <chubuntu> clarification on #1: i had an HDD connected to a good PC, installed ubuntu server on it, confirmed it booted properly on that machine, and then swapped the drive into the other machine where it does not detect an OS to boot on that drive
[00:10] <sarnold> chubuntu: are both machines using legacy bios or uefi or is one machine using legacy and the other using uefi?
[00:11] <chubuntu> the destination machine's mobo is phoenix award bios, and i'm having trouble finding many settings in it, so i'm not sure which one it's on. i haven't confirmed which bios the operable machine is on, but i can find that out and come back
[00:14] <chubuntu> brb checking bios setup
[00:24] <NibzAU> Hello All, hopefully someone can help me.. ive just wiped my laptop and installed ubuntu.. i made my ssd drive /  and made my hdd /home . not sure if it worked correctly.. when i go to other locations i can see only Computer which says 109gb free (ssd is 128) but if i right click home it says 900gb free.. i assume this is correct but want to make sure before i move forward
[00:30] <akemhp> NibzAU, Well yeah, it sounds ok, right.
[00:32] <chubuntu> @sarnold having trouble discerning what mode my asus bios is on, but for what it's worth, the bios screen itself says it's a "UEFI bios"
[00:35] <sarnold> chubuntu: I could believe that an older system that doesn't have uefi support might not exactly tell you that's a legacy bios :) heh
[00:36] <chubuntu> @sarnold could very well be. does that mean i need a different ISO to intall with?
[00:36] <mekhami> what postgres-compatible gui client is not awful?
[00:37] <Thr0r> chubuntu:  Back to basic.. Is your new HD listed as a device in the Bios? And - Is the boot order correctly pointing to the HD you want to boot from,,
[00:38] <chubuntu> @thr0r the HD is detected, just doesn't detect an OS. the boot order does try booting from that HDD first
[00:38] <sarnold> chubuntu: the same iso will work for both, but you may not be able to install on a uefi and move the drive to a legacy.. the other way around may work if you don't mind giving up uefi and disabling it..
[00:39] <chubuntu> @sarnold so that could explain why installing it on my (potentially) UEFI machine and swapping it to a legacy machine doesn't work, but why would i not even be able to make a fresh install from a CD-ROM ISO?
[00:39] <sarnold> chubuntu: oh? I missed that detail I thought this was all about moving hard drives
[00:40] <chubuntu> @sarnold that was my first attempt. i installed it on my UEFI machine and swapped it, but when that failed, i tried a fresh install and the installer stalls out right after i click "install ubuntu server"
[00:40] <chubuntu> sarnold as in, it loads the purple screen where i can select the "install" option, but once i do, everything freezes
[00:42] <sarnold> chubuntu: oh weird :( sorry, no idfeas there
[00:43] <chubuntu> sarnold: all good, thanks for your time :)
[00:44] <Thr0r> chubuntu: what media did/are you using to make that "fresh" install on your ASUS with the new blank disk?
[00:45] <chubuntu> unetbootin via windows
[00:45] <chubuntu> Thr0r
[00:46] <chubuntu> Thr0r: with the ubuntu-19.04-live-server-amd64.iso
[00:47] <chubuntu> brb
[00:49] <Thr0r> chubuntu: Ok - and that is on a USB stick or a CD/DVD?
[00:54] <chubuntu> Thr0r: originally installed it directly to the drive. after that failed, that i burned it to DVD and tried reinstalling from the server machine, but that's when the installation process freezes
[01:03] <Feldegast> anyone hemre?my actionscript is:myvar myDate:Date = new Date();
[01:03] <Feldegast> this.rotation = 6 * myDate.seconds;
[01:03] <Thr0r> chubuntu:  Ok - I don't quite understand but I have been using Rufus to create USB bootable sticks (From windows) and "Startup Disk Creator" (From Linux) - Both works just fine - and I have an ASUS. Have done it many times.. sorry
[01:04] <Feldegast> sorry wrong window
[01:04] <chubuntu> @thr0r
[01:04] <chubuntu> all good, thanks for the advice. i'll try your tool
[03:52] <jkoofer> hello all. I am a very new to ubuntu. I am using 18.04 , I am trying to put a new theme on. I created a folder called .themes but everytime go to find it I cannot not. When I search for it the search yields no result. However when I create a new folder using .themes as the name, it says a folder already exists.
[03:53] <jkoofer> I am watching a youtube tutorial from ubuntu version 15 so i believe it is slightly different for this reason.
[03:55] <OerHeks> jkoofer, sadly the last item on the page: install gnome-tweak-tool to switch
[03:56] <OerHeks> https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2017/11/best-gtk-themes-for-ubuntu
[03:56] <OerHeks> !info gnome-tweak-tool
[03:59] <jkoofer> ah thank you!
[04:38] <gambl0re> hello?
[04:41] <ryuo> !ask | gambl0re
[06:31] <Thete> is there any way to tell ubuntu to install the EFI bootloader to the drive I'm installing ubuntu on and not mess with the main drive's EFI partition?
[06:33] <Thete> nevermind it's in advanced
[06:33] <EriC^^> Thete: i think it's not just the bootloader location, it's also the partition that's set to be used as efi
[06:43] <Thete> I usually just disable the windows drive so it creates it's own on the secondary drive
[06:43] <Thete> cause if I ever reinstall windows then I can't boot to linux
[06:43] <Thete> and have to run boot-repair crap
[06:43] <Thete> this is a laptop though and no easy way to disable the other drive
[06:43] <Thete> Just did it manually though so that's fine
[06:43] <Thete> any of you guys particularly fond of any cpu governor control software or cooling software that should be installed?
[06:54] <exit70> hi, is it possible to set up a serial console (for troubleshooting) on a "regular" laptop?
[06:57] <ducasse> exit70: if you have a serial port, sure. if you just want to see messages you can use this - https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Netconsole
[06:58] <exit70> interesting, thx, will try when i have a chance
[07:06] <Thete> any of you guys use tlp or thermald?
[07:06] <Thete> on laptop?
[07:12] <exit70> i use tlp
[07:13] <exit70> it seems to reduce power-rate reported by `upower`
[07:37] <Thete> I'll, try, thanks for the info
[07:43] <Y0hY> linux
[09:50] <tommy``> how can i keep monitoring the vsftpd live?
[09:58] <netcrash> I installed openbox on my ubuntu and tint2 , does anyone know of a battery power indicator for tint2
[09:58] <netcrash> ?
[10:02] <netcrash> <https://forums.bunsenlabs.org/viewtopic.php?id=450
[10:02] <netcrash> found an answer
[10:06] <johnjbogle> Hi may I get some assistance with updating my bios please?
[10:13] <akemhp_> johnjbogle, Well it's Ubuntu support there.
[10:14] <tommy``> johnjbogle: search on your motherboard website brand
[10:24] <ryuo> johnjbogle: that's vendor specific. we can't really give you anything without more information.
[10:25] <ryuo> but the usual method involves doing it from windows. some can be done from FreeDOS. others can do it directly from the bios, but it's entirely vendor defined.
[10:43] <tommy``> ubuntu transforms me in a being like gollum... i stopped watch out of the windows of my home
[10:43] <lotuspsychje> tommy``: only ubuntu issues here please
[10:44] <tommy``> that is a ubuntu issue lotuspsychje
[11:11] <HenryCH> hi, beginner here, i was just trying to install mongo on wsl ubuntu 18.04, if i follow the instructions and install the official mongodb-org, i still can't start the service with service mongod start but have to use service mongodb start instead, anyone know why?
[11:13] <lotuspsychje> !ubuwin | HenryCH
[11:14] <HenryCH> lotuspsychje: thanks i'll pose the question there
[11:17] <tamj0rd2> Hey, I have ubuntu installed on my laptop, dual booted with windows. For some reason my external monitor doesn't work in ubuntu, but it works fine in windows
[11:18] <tamj0rd2> I have the nvidia-driver-430 installed, but when I run xrandr it shows my HDMI cable as being disconnected
[11:18] <tamj0rd2> Does any have some ideas of what I can try
[11:20] <lotuspsychje> tamj0rd2: did you try Fn+ F7 screen switch combo?
[11:20] <tamj0rd2> no, let me give that a try
[11:20] <tamj0rd2> Nothing happens :s
[11:21] <tamj0rd2> I'm on ubuntu 18.04 btw
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> tamj0rd2: if you are on ubuntu 18.04 or higher, did you check your systemsettings/devices/screen ?
[11:21] <lotuspsychje> tamj0rd2: see if its recognized there
[11:21] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: generic advice: assert that the BIOS is current.
[11:22] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: i can't tell you how many times that has resolved issues with Linux, especially laptops.
[11:22] <tamj0rd2> In screen display it only lists the built in monitor lotuspsychje
[11:22] <tamj0rd2> what do you mean @ryuo?
[11:22] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: update the BIOS if it's not current.
[11:22] <tamj0rd2> ahh, gotcha
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> !biosupdate | tamj0rd2 adviced by ryuo
[11:23] <lotuspsychje> tamj0rd2: see also: fwupdate -l some machine brands can update this way aswell
[11:23] <ryuo> but it's pretty much vendor specific.
[11:23] <tamj0rd2> thanks :)
[11:23] <ryuo> but that's always something I do before i ever install Linux on a new machine now.
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> good aproach ryuo
[11:24] <ryuo> just to fix any previously resolved issues so i don't have to run into them again ;)
[11:25] <ryuo> i can't tell you how many times i've bought used PCs only to find their BIOS appears to have never been updated even once.
[11:25] <ryuo> i can't recall ever finding one that was.
[11:48] <gbellinoz> apt install cups is telling me:
[11:48] <gbellinoz> "cups : Depends: libcups2 (= 2.2.7-1ubuntu2) but 2.2.7-1ubuntu2.1 is to be installed"
[11:48] <gbellinoz> Is this maybe a temporary repo problem?
[11:50] <tamj0rd2> Hey, I'm back
[11:50] <tamj0rd2> I've done the BIOS update but it hasn't made any difference sadly :(
[11:51] <ioria> gbellinoz, maybe you mean '2.2.7-1ubuntu2.7 is to be installed' ; 2.2.7-1ubuntu2.1 does not exist
[11:51] <gbellinoz> It's not what I mean... it's what apt is saying...
[11:52] <ioria> gbellinoz, apt-cache policy cups | nc termbin.com 9999
[11:52] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: does replugging the cable do anything?
[11:53] <tamj0rd2> Nope ryuo
[11:53] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: for that matter, what does xrandr even report?
[11:53] <tamj0rd2> I've run sudo lshw -c video
[11:53] <ryuo> wait... is this a dual gpu?
[11:53] <tamj0rd2> I have a nvidia graphics driver and a intel one both in my laptop
[11:53] <ryuo> i wonder if that's related.
[11:53] <tamj0rd2> I think it is, but I'm not really sure how to fix it
[11:53] <gbellinoz> ioria: https://gist.github.com/bitwombat/b97497bd8dd9b2d2ad7ed6466140d880
[11:53] <ryuo> yea... dual gpu has always been spotty in my experience. i never touch those machines nowadays.
[11:54] <tamj0rd2> Here's what I get when I run lshw https://pastebin.com/dyUeaMC2
[11:54] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: what does xrandr say?
[11:54] <ioria> gbellinoz, paste also the error
[11:54] <ioria> gbellinoz, but i'd check my sources.list
[11:54] <tamj0rd2> ryuo it still says my HDMI-1 is disconnected
[11:55] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: ugh. i was hoping for the whole output.
[11:55] <tamj0rd2> oh sorry, 1 sec
[11:55] <tamj0rd2> ryuo https://pastebin.com/y6RALdwz
[11:55] <gbellinoz> ioria: https://termbin.com/jjna
[11:55] <gbellinoz> sources.list is default.
[11:56] <gbellinoz> I'm thinking I have something held... I'm usually reluctant to upgrade cups.
[11:56] <gbellinoz> (this is a full-on, frustrated, purge and reinstall move)
[11:57] <ioria> gbellinoz, sudo apt update
[11:57] <gbellinoz> ioria: did
[11:58] <ioria> gbellinoz, does it show updates available ?
[11:59] <ioria> gbellinoz, also : sudo apt list --upgradable
[11:59] <gbellinoz> ioria: just 2 (have automatic upgrades running)
[12:00] <tamj0rd2> ryuo I've doube checked and I have the correct nvidia driver installed for my card
[12:00] <gbellinoz> ioria: something's not right... apt update only lists 4 URLs it's loading from. One is http://au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu bionic InRelease
[12:00] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: no idea, honestly... though it mentions another port. have you tried that?
[12:00] <gbellinoz> and the rest are skype, google, etc.
[12:01] <ioria> gbellinoz, i told you to check the sources.list
[12:01] <gbellinoz> My other 18.04 system gets like 38 sources.
[12:01] <tamj0rd2> I don't have a display port cable
[12:01] <gbellinoz> yes you did :) and I did. looks normal. will diff it with my other system.
[12:01] <ryuo> i see.
[12:01] <ryuo> well, something you could try.
[12:01] <tamj0rd2> do you think reinstalling ubuntu could help?
[12:01] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: doubtful. if it doesn't work now it probably won't work from a reinstall.
[12:02] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: how new is it ?
[12:02] <ioria> gbellinoz, please paste it
[12:02] <tamj0rd2> I got this in February, so still pretty new
[12:03] <tamj0rd2> I've had this issue for months now though. I gave up for a while, so I just haven't bothered trying to get it working in ubuntu until now.
[12:03] <tamj0rd2> ryuo
[12:03] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: i would retry with manjaro. if a newer software stack fixes it, then you may be on to something.
[12:03] <ryuo> 18.04 ships with older stuff so it might be a problem here.
[12:04] <tamj0rd2> ryuo ah. Is manjaro still ubuntu or something else?
[12:04] <ryuo> No... it's based on ARCH.
[12:04] <ryuo> different design goals but it's a useful benchmark for testing against the latest upstream software.
[12:05] <tamj0rd2> ah, gotcha
[12:05] <ryuo> if that fixes it then you may have to retry with 19.10 or w/e.
[12:05] <tamj0rd2> ryuo I have my /home mounted to a different place on my hdd. I think when I run the ubuntu installer it's possible for me to reinstall it without wiping /home. Do you know if that's the same for manjaro?
[12:05] <d0me5t0s> I'm trying to upgrade an old version of mailinabox which is running on ubuntu14. Upgrading to Ubuntu 18 in place is not an option as this will break mailinabox. I have to first upgrade mailinabox before going to 18. Problem is that there are dependencies in PPAs where the versions for ubuntu14 don't exist any more. Am I as badly hosed as I think I am, or is there hope? :-)
[12:05] <ryuo> this is the main drawback of LTS releases. they're really more optimal for older hardware.
[12:06] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: uh... possibly? i haven't done dual boot in ages.
[12:07] <ryuo> d0me5t0s: why do you have to upgrade it first? why can't you just disable it and upgrade it after?
[12:16] <gbellinoz> ioria: bad sources.list at least part of the problem. Pretty sure I upgraded both systems from 16.04 the same way, yet one had only one source enabled, and  the other said "xenial" for the src packages. FUBAR.
[12:16] <d0me5t0s> ryuo - that's the only upgrade/migration path for MIAB. Their site/forum is very clear that just going straight to U18 will break it
[12:16] <gbellinoz> Cleaned them up and 622 upgrades are waiting.
[12:17] <ioria> ok
[12:17] <gbellinoz> thanks for the tips
[12:19] <d0me5t0s> So while I'm kicking myself for not upgrading earlier, I'm also very frustrated by the speedy removal of old packages. Is that just to make people ugrade, or is there a less obvious reason?
[12:20] <ryuo> d0me5t0s: they occupy valuable space. after public support ends, what's the point of keeping them around?
[12:20] <ryuo> a single release can occupy many gigabytes. spread over many mirrors. that's nothing to sneeze at.
[12:21] <EriC^^> d0me5t0s: i guess it's logistics and stuff
[12:21] <EriC^^> d0me5t0s: you know the stuff is moved to a different web address but still there yes?
[12:22] <EriC^^> of course you shouldn't use it unless you absolutely know what you're doing and the computer isnt connected to the internet etc due to security risks associated with it
[12:22] <EriC^^> d0me5t0s: ^
[12:22] <tamj0rd2> ryuo got it! I had to disable secure boot in uefi and then change my selected video card to intel then back to nvidia
[12:23] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: probably it was more the first issue. with secure boot active, DKMS packages may fail to work.
[12:23] <ryuo> because of enforced kernel module signing.
[12:23] <tamj0rd2> Yeah, you're right. I tried switching the selected cards and that didn't make any difference at all until I changed secure boot
[12:23] <ryuo> probably should stick to intel by default.
[12:24] <ryuo> either way, bios update may have helped. sometimes they expose new options.
[12:24] <tamj0rd2> I think the HDMI is connected to the nvidia card, so it won't work at all if I stick with intel selected ryuo
[12:24] <ryuo> tamj0rd2: well, up to you. i'm assuming this will end up using more power.
[12:36] <d0me5t0s> ssorry EriC^^ - I'm here
[12:41] <d0me5t0s> I get it about gigabytes across many mirrors, but one or two mirrors just for old time's sake wouldn't be too bad. The ubuntu repositories have old-versions.. just it seems, not PPAs. Anyway - didn't really come here to whinge about that :-)
[12:52] <Y0hY> Ubuntu
[13:40] <AlexPortable> How do I extend my partition? There is free space in front of it but I can only make my partition smaller and not bigger
[13:41] <export> AlexPortable: uh, how much space we talking?
[13:46] <EriC^^> AlexPortable: try gparted from a live usb
[13:48] <export> AlexPortable: well since i've not seen how much space you're trying reclaim i feel i should mention that if you need to consume space that is "before" the partition's start you'll have to move the partition start point "back" or "to the left" and extend it, the bad part is that you'll need to be aware that a bootloader could possibly have a hard time finding the partition after the fact so the system could
[13:48] <export> fail to boot afterwards.
[13:48] <export> also if it's a very small amount it could simply be an alignment issue or something that can't easily be fixed afaik, so if it's like 1-2 mb or something i'd leave it be, probably not worth the trouble.
[15:07] <cybercrypto> Hi there, I see that 'zfs option' is missing from the installer GUI during 19.10 installation. I am using freebsd-host virtualbox installing guest-ubuntu-19.10. Does anyone knows something that may prevent zfs option to be presented?
[15:12] <ducasse> cybercrypto: ask in #ubuntu+1, that's where 19.10 is supported up until it's released
[15:12] <cybercrypto> ducasse: thank you, I will.
[15:31] <AlexPortable> export: it's around 50 GB, there was another partition there before but i made that one smaller
[15:31] <AlexPortable> how do i move it? the only options i have in the ubuntu 'disks' is to resize it
[15:49] <amosbird> hi, is there any tool to temporarily use my local machine as a router for a remote box. it's like \magic_reverse_vpn root@remote_machine\ and I can ctrl-c to disconnect
[16:14] <bittin> Ubuntu 19.10 RC2 on Monday and release on Thursday
[16:32] <mendi> guys
[16:33] <mendi> Hello guys I hav
[16:33] <mendi> I cant login unless i change from ubuntu to ubuntu-wayland in login screen
[16:34] <mendi> how can I use x11 instead
[16:50] <export> AlexPortable: a previously mentioned option is gparted, but as i said, moving partitions could require more steps to get whatever partition you moved bootable again, assuming it is bootable.
[16:52] <chubuntu> sarnold: I got everything squared away! thanks for your help yesterday. it ended up being two issues. 1) i'm assuming it was a legacy vs UEFI issue with both the existing install and the fresh installation i was using. found a suggestion to use the ISO that didn't have the "live" keyword in the filename, and that worked for me. 2) once it was
[16:52] <chubuntu> reinstalled, the screen kept going black on boot. this was an nvidia driver issue that i resolved by somehow blind logging in and installing openssh-server, then accessing it from my working machine. it miraculously worked! updating drivers now lets me boot without the black screen
[17:31] <rfm> mendi, first thing to check is the Xorg log for errors.  It should be in ~/.local/share/xort/Xorg.0.log for recent ubuntu releases...
[17:37] <Alexthek1d> hi
[17:37] <Alexthek1d> Is there a console command in linux to change the ip/proxy? Like "SetSocks4 223.232.232.22:1080" ?
[17:40] <tommy``> does exist some currency tool for terminal to see live currency and for calculation?
[18:08] <bittin> Happy 15th Birthday Ubuntu
[18:47] <varaindemian> i tried to run kali in virtual box and I do not have 2d acceleratio
[18:48] <varaindemian> What virtual environment do you recommend for running other linux distros as guests on ubuntu (host)?
[18:50] <varaindemian> anyone?
[18:52] <tomreyn> varaindemian: virtualbox should be fine (maybe use upstream's packages, though not supported here), also anything kvm based can be.
[18:53] <varaindemian> tomreyn: something eASY TO install and kvm based?
[18:55] <tomreyn> varaindemian: what did you mean by 2d acceleration though? do you mean 3d?
[18:55] <tomreyn> are guest graphics slow?
[18:58] <tomreyn> all of qemu-kvm (optionally with virt-manager or gnome-boxes GUIs) and virtualbox should be easy to install.
[19:16] <nikolam> Hi I am having trouble getting to work for Webcam PAC7311 Trust WB-3300p ( idVendor 0x093a, idProduct 0x2608 ) . Webcam used to work on all previous Ubuntu and kernels, up untill 18.10 and now on 19.04 it does not work. (Cheese does not recognizes it nor display video). Webcam has audio mic that IS recognize in the system.
[19:16] <dynetrekk> hi, does anyone know how to install ubuntu 18.04 on a mac mini 2011?
[19:18] <nikolam> dynetrekk, have you tried googling the issue? (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mac_mini)
[19:19] <dynetrekk> nikolam some say you just do it with a usb stick, some say you have to flash the EFI, I think it's inconclusive
[19:19] <dynetrekk> but thanks for that link
[19:19] <dynetrekk> it doesn't include mac mini 5.1 which is what I have though
[19:20] <nikolam> If you ask me, I would avoid all Mac hardware altogether. But that's just mine conclusion.
[19:21] <dynetrekk> nikolam if you inherit a mac mini, you don't get to choose the hardware
[19:21] <dynetrekk> also reuse > recycle > trash
[19:22] <dynetrekk> I have a thinkpad for ubuntu, too, of course
[19:22] <nikolam> I totally agree.
[19:24] <nikolam> I duckduckgoe'd this https://askubuntu.com/questions/885978/how-to-install-ubuntu-to-a-mac-mini-i7-2011-with-amd-graphics
[19:25] <dynetrekk> linux will run on a toaster and I don't see any reason why I shouldn't
[19:25] <dynetrekk> nikolam thanks will have a look. mine's an i5 with intel hd graphics though. Which is probably an advantage! the debian wiki indicates it might Just Work (TM), which is the Apple Way anyway!
[19:27] <nikolam> Yes. maybe you can fill up blanks on Ubuntu wiki if you have something that works ok for your model.
[19:27] <nikolam> Apple way is as far as I understand, shorter support cycles for hardware then for other PCs. (As their OS support for their hardware).
[19:29] <dynetrekk> nikolam kind of, yes and no. my router got updates not too long ago. It's from 2007.
[19:30] <dynetrekk> nikolam the lowest specced machines don't fly forever but neither do windows machines. Noone offers linux anyway.
[19:30] <dynetrekk> so I think they're competitive with most official support, and for iphones they're way better than android support in my experience
[19:32] <nikolam> dynetrekk, I think System76 offers Linux machines as well as DELL laptops come with Ubuntu preinstalled.
[19:49] <dynetrekk> nikolam system76 is us only?
[19:56] <AlexPortable> export: well yes gparted, but how do I actually move it with gparted?
[19:57] <AlexPortable> https://imgur.com/a/laHOAL3
[19:58] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: you can't move extended partitions out of the extended area
[19:58] <AlexPortable> so how do I make it bigger? it's full
[19:59] <tomreyn> buy a new disk or create a new partition table.
[19:59] <AlexPortable> new partition table without losing data?
[20:00] <tomreyn> if you prepare for it very well that might succeed, but it's not a fun task and i'm not going to guide.
[20:01] <tomreyn> you're better off replacing the msdos partition table by a gpt one.
[20:01] <AlexPortable> can windows still boot from that?
[20:01] <tomreyn> not without reinstalling, i would think
[20:02] <tomreyn> but then i'm not a windows expert, those usually gather in ##windows
[20:02] <AlexPortable> ugh
[20:02] <AlexPortable> so basically i'm stuck now and can't store any more data on ubuntu because i have the wrong partition table...
[20:03] <nikolam> dynetrekk, wouldn't know, maybe you can ask them. But I know Dell's with Ubuntu are widespread just month ago I reinstalled DELL laptop that came with preinstalled Ubuntu
[20:04] <tomreyn> well you could create another primary partition and create a linux compatible file system there and mount that on some directory where you need the additional disk space.
[20:04] <tomreyn> AlexPortable: ^
[20:04] <AlexPortable> well i need space in my home folder
[20:06] <tomreyn> so you could create e.g. a partition in the unallocated space, create an ext4 file systme on that, and move you existing /home data to it, then mount this new disk at /home.
[20:06] <tomreyn> i mean this new file system, not disk
[20:09] <AlexPortable> thanks ill do that
[20:28] <econdudeawesome> Hey... I am learning more about data... I know this is off topic but would love a pointer. Can you recommend a good data engineering channel? Context: Postgres, DBT, Singer, have a data model and not really sure how to transform / process raw data to make it all work together
[20:32] <styler2go> Hey everyone. My Ubuntu system (19.04 server) does not retrieve an ip address on startup. Any ideas what i can do? Once i log in i at least get a wifi connection
[20:33] <dynetrekk> econdudeawesome I suppose there's a postgres channel, I've been in there in the distant past
[20:33] <econdudeawesome> I'll check it out dynetrekk
[20:33] <econdudeawesome> Thanks
[20:34] <dynetrekk> econdudeawesome just never trust raw data. Check, recheck and check again.
[20:35] <mendi> I apt-get removed g++:i386 on a x64 installation of ubuntu and now i cant get a graphical boot
[20:35] <mendi> It also removed alot of x64 libs. Wtf
[20:35] <mendi> And recompiled the kernel. Wtfx2
[20:36] <econdudeawesome> @dynetrekk its not so much the raw data itself, I literally have no idea how to load to a specific data model. I've been a data consumer for years and guess I never really considered this part
[20:37] <mendi> My ubuntu usb tries to boot into the already installed ubuntu for some reason
[20:39] <mendi> "System boot order not found initializing defaults" wtf
[20:54] <KunaPrime> hello i'm running 19.04 and my system is reporting that is has been minimizes so i don't have access to some man pages
[20:55] <KunaPrime> how do i restore it to full instalation?
[20:59] <tomreyn> KunaPrime: your system is reporting that "is has been minimizes"?
[20:59] <tomreyn> can you provide the original error message, explain what you were doing?
[21:00] <KunaPrime> This  system  has been minimized by removing packages and content
[21:00] <KunaPrime> that are not required on a system that users do not log into.
[21:00] <KunaPrime> To restore this content, including manpages, you can run the ’un‐
[21:00] <KunaPrime> minimize’  command.  You  will  still need to ensure the ’man‐db’
[21:00] <KunaPrime> package is installed.
[21:00] <KunaPrime> y
[21:02] <KunaPrime> i'm trying to acess man for erl for example
[21:03] <tomreyn> !paste | KunaPrime
[21:04] <KunaPrime> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/CgdPwX7csz/
[21:05] <tomreyn> KunaPrime: so have you tried what the message suggests?
[21:06] <KunaPrime> i don't hat unminimize script and i don't know how to get it
[21:06] <KunaPrime> have*
[21:06] <tomreyn> i see. i've never seen this message before so i'm not sure how to handle this situation then.
[21:07] <tomreyn> is this a standard ubuntu installation from one of the ISOs released on ubuntu.com?
[21:07] <KunaPrime> yes from live usb made form standardn 19.04 ISO
[21:08] <tomreyn> KunaPrime: and which command were you running when this output was produced?
[21:08] <KunaPrime> man <some progam>, for example 'man erl'
[21:09] <KunaPrime> erl manpages are installed
[21:12] <tomreyn> KunaPrime: oh wait are you saying this is happening while you are running the live usb, not on a persistent installation?
[21:13] <KunaPrime> tomreyn: no it has been install via bootable usb, but this is happenning on permanent install
[21:19] <guntbert> KunaPrime: tomreyn: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Minimal
[21:19] <tomreyn> KunaPrime: hmm i can only find this message and the "unminimize" script mentioned on web sites dealing with docker and the "livecd-rootfs" package. but there's apparently no file of this name in Ubuntu 18.04 or 19.04
[21:20] <KunaPrime> tomreyn: exactly this is the thnig that is confusing me, i have looked at guntbert's link but it isn't helpfull in finding uniminimize script at all
[21:21] <tomreyn> guntbert: right, but KunaPrime stated that this installation was created form a standard installer
[21:21] <KunaPrime> it was
[21:21] <KunaPrime> it is full laptop installation
[21:21] <tomreyn> KunaPrime: do you know the name of the iso file you used?
[21:22] <KunaPrime>  ubuntu-19.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[21:22] <kadiro> Hello, How to remove spice-vdagent without removing xubuntu core ?
[21:23] <tomreyn> hmm, interesting. sorry, no idea then, KunaPrime
[21:23] <KunaPrime> is is release form 20190416
[21:23] <KunaPrime> tomreyn: thanks any way
[21:25] <tomreyn> kadiro: you can try running it using apt, and it will ask you to confirm
[21:25] <tomreyn> or add -s to simulate its removal
[21:27] <kadiro> tomreyn> When trying with -s it say remv xubuntu-desktop same for xubuntu-core
[21:31] <tomreyn> kadiro: so apparently you cannot.
[21:32] <kadiro> tomreyn> ok thanks, I have another two problems/errors from my journal
[21:32] <kadiro> The first is: pam_succeed_if(lightdm:auth): requirement "user ingroup nopasswdlogin" not met by user kadiro
[21:33] <kadiro> The second is: [pulseaudio] bluez5-util.c: GetManagedObjects() failed: org.freedesktop.systemd1.NoSuchUnit: Unit blablah bla
[21:33] <tomreyn> which ubuntu version are you running, kadiro ?
[21:34] <kadiro> Especially the first error because my pc take long time to show login session
[21:34] <kadiro> tomreyn> It is xubuntu 18.04
[21:34] <tomreyn> is the system fully updated?
[21:35] <kadiro> tomreyn> of course
[21:36] <tomreyn> can you post this?  nc termbin.com 9999 < <(lsb_release -ds;cat /proc/{version,cmdline};echo "Session: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP ($XDG_SESSION_TYPE)";echo Shell: $SHELL)
[21:36] <tomreyn> kadiro: ^
[21:36] <kadiro> tomreyn> https://termbin.com/wxl0
[21:37] <threadnaught> Having a bizzare keyboard problem right now, lots of the keys being intermittent but I don't think it's a hardware problem. Left shift+Any letter=>Upper case letter, Right shift+] => }, Left shift+]=>NOTHING
[21:38] <tomreyn> kadiro: thanks, is there actually a notable problem though? are you able to login on lightdm?
[21:38] <kadiro> tomreyn> yes but the session of lightdm take long time to bring up
[21:39] <threadnaught> I'm on 18.04 LTS, just reinstalled fresh
[21:39] <kadiro> tomreyn> when checking journal i see: systemd[1]: session-c3.scope: Killing process 19697 (lightdm) with signal SIGTERM. same for gnome-keyring and greeter
[21:40] <threadnaught> The problem even affects the cryptsetup boot disk unlocker
[21:42] <kadiro> threadnaught> just a very few help for you, type this in your terminal: xev | grep -A2 --line-buffered '^KeyRelease' | sed -n '/keycode /s/^.*keycode \([0-9]*\).* (.*, \(.*\)).*$/\1 \2/p'"
[21:43] <kadiro> with that you can simulate the keys to see which one doesn't work
[21:44] <threadnaught> I've typed it in, what exactly do you want me to do?
[21:44] <threadnaught> kadiro?
[21:45] <kadiro> threadnaught> it will show you the key you typed and its code
[21:45] <kadiro> xev | grep -A2 --line-buffered '^KeyRelease' | sed -n '/keycode /s/^.*keycode \([0-9]*\).* (.*, \(.*\)).*$/\1 \2/p'
[21:45] <kadiro> corrected ^
[21:46] <threadnaught> kadiro: Okay, I've typed that in and all of a sudden my keyboard has stopped misbehaving
[21:46] <threadnaught> I am so confused
[21:47] <threadnaught> wait no it's still broken
[21:47] <kadiro> threadnaught> It must show something like: 36 Return for Return key, 114 Right for Right key and so on
[21:47] <threadnaught> Okay
[21:48] <kadiro> ok then just type: xev and see when you type something if it change or not
[21:53] <threadnaught> kadiro: I ran a few experiments it seems to not capture the keypresses at all https://pastebin.com/W27Nu6cG
[21:54] <threadnaught> It works fine on an external keyboard though, It may be a hardware problem but It seems strange that it would only fail with specific combinations of keypresses
[21:54] <kadiro> threadnaught> both shift keys are detected
[21:54] <threadnaught> kadiro, Yes, Both shift keys are detected, but sometimes left shift and [ are not (even though both are registered individually)
[21:55] <kadiro> ah I see
[21:55] <kadiro> I think the configuration of the keyboard have something strange on it
[21:55] <threadnaught> I'm not an expert on keyboards, but the fact they keys only fail in some combinations would seem to point towards an error further up than hardware?
[21:56] <threadnaught> kadiro: give me a command to run big man :P
[21:56] <kadiro> threadnaught> I can't tell, but It could be software or hardware
[21:57] <kadiro> threadnaught> lol, I'm just a bigginer and my english is not good
[21:57] <threadnaught> kadiro: that's okay dont worry
[21:58] <threadnaught> I'll have a look around and if I can't fix it I'll ask again
[21:58] <kadiro> threadnaught> you can try: dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration or dpkg-reconfigure keyboard to see if you can fix that
[22:00] <threadnaught> kadiro: Just ran, going down for reboot
[22:00] <kadiro> ok
[22:04] <threadnaught> Okay, I'm back, that command didn't work, trying every other one in that stackexchange thread lol
[22:04] <kadiro> :D
[22:16] <threadnaught> kadiro: other keys that are intermittent include 8 and k, but they don't break at the same time as } or each other
[22:17] <threadnaught> I've reset just about every setting I can find
[22:19] <kadiro> threadnaught> my guess is the } key is pushed down ( may be ) or another key, if you type the command above 'xev ...' if you see just a code and the name of the key than your keyboard is working but if you see that key and another one like } so my guess could be right
[22:20] <threadnaught> kadiro: Could you paste it again? I restarted
[22:21] <kadiro> xev | grep -A2 --line-buffered '^KeyRelease' | sed -n '/keycode /s/^.*keycode \([0-9]*\).* (.*, \(.*\)).*$/\1 \2/p'
[22:24] <kadiro> brb preparing my medecament
[22:34] <kadiro> ok
[22:44] <Threadnaught> kadiro: it seems to start working sometimes when I hit my laptop really hard. It would appear to be a hardware issue
[22:45] <Threadnaught> good old percussive maintencance
[22:45] <kadiro> Threadnaught> yeah that happen to me, that's why i guessed
[22:45] <Threadnaught> kadiro: thanks for your help anyway, even if it turned out not to work
[22:46] <kadiro> Threadnaught> You are welcome
[23:17] <Ascavasaion> I have two external monitors attached to my laptop, so three displays in total.  Third one usually runs at 1600 x something... Today it has defaulted to 1024 x 768.  I have looked in xrandr but cannot figure it out.  any ideas please?
[23:21] <akemhp_> Ascavasaion, Try arandr you should be able to set the resolution there.
[23:21] <akemhp_> Ascavasaion, How do you connect the 2 other monitors to your laptop? 1 HDMI and 1 USB?
[23:22] <Ascavasaion> akemhp_, One is display port, other is VGA D Sub
[23:22] <akemhp_> Ascavasaion, Ha ok.
[23:25] <Ascavasaion> akemhp_, My initial Q was incorrect... I sais xrandr, I meantr arandr.  arandr is not detecting anything higher than 1025x768 for that monitor
[23:26] <akemhp_> Ascavasaion, Ok, i don't know then, sorry.
[23:33] <causative> the longer my system has been running, the more lag there is in the display, e.g. lag when I drag windows around the screen.  Rebooting fixes temporarily.  It's not a lack of memory.  What can I check?
[23:36] <Vooloo> what is the point of the activities window dropdown menu? All I can do is choose "quit" on every app
[23:39] <tomreyn> causative: systemctl -f   may have some hints on it
[23:40] <tomreyn> causative: you didn't say which ubuntu release and desktop you're running, so providing further suggestions is difficult
[23:45] <JShor> Hello, I'm having some issues getting my Bluetooth set up.  I'm using crouton on a chromebook to use Ubuntu w/ Unity.  When I run sudo lsmod | grep bluetooth I can see this:
[23:45] <Ascavasaion> akemhp_, I figured it out, albeit that I am not totally sure what I did... https://askubuntu.com/questions/377937/how-to-set-a-custom-resolution#377944
[23:45] <Ascavasaion> HAHA!
[23:45] <JShor>  /msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER JShor ttrixeglqeew
[23:45] <Vooloo> #fail
[23:46] <Ascavasaion> Eek
[23:46] <Ascavasaion> JShor, Time for a new password
[23:46] <causative> tomreyn, 18.04.3 LTS, gnome 3.28.4
[23:47] <Vooloo> JShor, you need some numbers
[23:48] <JShor> Damn I'm trying to change my password but can't find my key, unless that was it and someone already changed it on me
[23:48] <JShor> RIP
[23:48] <tomreyn> causative: ah, well then this command will probably output a lot. even more so if you have your own gnome-shell-extensions installed
[23:48] <tomreyn> JShor: there's a password reset mechanism, details in #freenode
[23:49] <causative> what would I be looking for?
[23:50] <tomreyn> causative: i'm not sure. it could be a lot of things really. generally, i recommend to install as few as possible and well picked gnome-shell extensions only.
[23:51] <JShor> Actually I think we're good -- I had already used that key to set my pass and apparently the keys are only good for one use
[23:51] <tomreyn> causative: since they ca have great impact on stability and performance. on a side note, you can always press Alt-F2 and type "r"+ Enter to restart the shell.
[23:55] <causative> restarting the shell got me back to smooth window movements (temporarily)
[23:56] <tomreyn> so you probably hit a gnome-shell-extension or a gnome-shell issue. newer ubuntu releases have performance improvements on gnome-shell.
[23:56] <causative> so I can no longer test, because it's no longer lagging.  I guess next time it starts lagging I'll try disabling extensions, or does disabling an extension also restart gnome?
[23:57] <tomreyn> no, disabling extensions doesn't replace the gnome-shell
[23:57] <causative> I'm using "invert window color", "ubuntu appindicators," and "system-monitor"
[23:58] <dax> JShor: yeah, the VERIFY REGISTER code is a one-time key not connected to your password, so you're fine :)
[23:58] <tomreyn> have a look at the frequency in which those throw traces and if there are some which do it a lot consider removing or replacing it.
[23:59] <causative> great, thanks :)