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| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-seed:: Move ZFS from core to live. @ http://git.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/xubuntu/commit/?id=73dc1d4c754d58c03acf8f5f6734206219a10cb5 (by Adam Conrad) | 20:10 | |
| bluesabre | Cool | 20:12 |
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| ochosi | heya bluesabre | 20:47 |
| bluesabre | Hey ochosi | 20:48 |
| ochosi | way to go sneaking in zfs support last minute :) | 20:48 |
| bluesabre | The flavors all figured it out in the last week, just tagging along | 20:51 |
| ochosi | sure, still, nice of you to take the time | 20:51 |
| ochosi | i know you're busy | 20:51 |
| bluesabre | Yeah, largely getting back in the Linux groove, just had a few more things the last few days | 20:54 |
| bluesabre | Planning a meeting Monday around my time | 20:55 |
| bluesabre | Can you stay up late? :) | 20:55 |
| ochosi | uh, monday may be the only bad night... | 20:56 |
| ochosi | have an interview on tuesday | 20:56 |
| ochosi | even today/now would be better :) | 20:58 |
| ochosi | Unit193 - you around? :) | 20:58 |
| bluesabre | :) | 21:08 |
| ochosi | dang | 21:09 |
| ochosi | that usually works | 21:09 |
| bluesabre | :D | 21:10 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: got any recommendations for a good screen capturing app? | 21:13 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: kazam is good for video | 21:14 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: Peek captures an animated gif | 21:15 |
| ochosi | that latter one i tried, but it segfaults (doublefree) when it tries to save the gif | 21:16 |
| ochosi | an animated gif would have been ideal | 21:16 |
| bluesabre | bummer | 21:16 |
| bluesabre | I think there's a few fullscreen recording extensions for chrome | 21:18 |
| ochosi | i'll see if i can get any of the others to work, maybe kazaam | 21:19 |
| ochosi | simplescreenrecorder oddly also failed | 21:19 |
| ochosi | "something went wrong during the initialization" | 21:19 |
| ochosi | quite the error message :) | 21:19 |
| bluesabre | That sounds like a gst error | 21:20 |
| ochosi | possible, yeah | 21:20 |
| ochosi | i wanted to set up everything from scratch with 19.10 anyway | 21:20 |
| ochosi | i've produced quite the franken-system here, with lots of xfce compiled from git master while working on 4.14 | 21:21 |
| bluesabre | I just got a new computer and have been setting it up today with 19.10 | 21:21 |
| ochosi | noice | 21:21 |
| ochosi | haha, so kazaam worked | 21:23 |
| ochosi | i mean it produced a 150mb avi for a few secs, but who cares | 21:24 |
| ochosi | but the cool part is: it included part of the red rectangle it uses to show where it's recording, just somewhere in the middle of the recording :'D | 21:24 |
| ochosi | and the video capturing doesn't seem to be very smooth | 21:26 |
| bluesabre | :D | 21:32 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Howdy. | 21:53 |
| ochosi | oh there you go ::) | 21:53 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: so, wanna do it now..? | 21:56 |
| bluesabre | oh, I've got time for a quick one, sure :) | 21:57 |
| bluesabre | #startmeeting Xubuntu Community Meeting | 21:58 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Sat Oct 12 21:58:35 2019 UTC. The chair is bluesabre. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 21:58 |
| meetingology | Available commands: action commands idea info link nick | 21:58 |
| bluesabre | Surprise! | 21:58 |
| bluesabre | !team | anybody around for a quick meeting? | 21:58 |
| ubottu | anybody around for a quick meeting?: team is akxwi-dave, bluesabre, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 | 21:58 |
| bluesabre | #chair ochosi | 22:00 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: bluesabre ochosi | 22:00 |
| bluesabre | #chair Unit193 | 22:00 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: Unit193 bluesabre ochosi | 22:00 |
| ochosi | new motto: "better to have an impromptu meeting with a few people than no meetings at all" | 22:01 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:01 |
| bluesabre | Works for me | 22:01 |
| bluesabre | #topic Open action items | 22:01 |
| bluesabre | #done bluesabre to replace light-locker with xfce4-screensaver in eoan | 22:01 |
| ochosi | noice | 22:01 |
| bluesabre | #done bluesabre to mail the mailing list to discuss additional keyboard shortcuts | 22:01 |
| bluesabre | #done bluesabre to mail the team regarding the GTK styles in GIMP (noting GTK used to be default) | 22:02 |
| bluesabre | #done bluesabre to email a team vote for color emoji support in Xubuntu | 22:02 |
| bluesabre | never got to it: bluesabre to work on improving "starting point" documentation for dev/QA | 22:02 |
| bluesabre | never got to it: bluesabre to reach out to other flavors to improve shared documentation | 22:02 |
| ochosi | i guess dev docs could be an upstream topic | 22:03 |
| ochosi | at least i wouldn't duplicate the effort | 22:03 |
| ochosi | and upstream could really use some time spent on that, and then we could simply link to it | 22:03 |
| bluesabre | Yeah | 22:03 |
| bluesabre | GIMP: GTK theme, got +4 / -0 | 22:03 |
| bluesabre | Color emoji: +3 / -1 | 22:04 |
| bluesabre | Keyboard shortcuts: Added Super+L for locking, Super+D for show desktop | 22:05 |
| bluesabre | #topic Updates and announcements | 22:05 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: Definitely in favor for upstream docs | 22:06 |
| ochosi | i guess we got both 4.14 patch releases (settings, panel) into eoan? | 22:06 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: yeah, pretty sure | 22:06 |
| bluesabre | !info xfce4-settings eoan | 22:06 |
| ochosi | that's pretty neat | 22:06 |
| ubottu | xfce4-settings (source: xfce4-settings): graphical application for managing Xfce settings. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.14.1-1ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 565 kB, installed size 3535 kB | 22:06 |
| bluesabre | !info xfce4-panel eoan | 22:06 |
| ubottu | xfce4-panel (source: xfce4-panel): panel for Xfce4 desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.14.1-0ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 623 kB, installed size 3599 kB | 22:06 |
| ochosi | i think i was the only one doing patch releases so far | 22:07 |
| ochosi | so that should be it | 22:07 |
| bluesabre | #info Xfce 4.14 released, available in 19.10 | 22:07 |
| bluesabre | #info Root ZFS installation now available with the 19.10 daily image | 22:07 |
| bluesabre | I don't think I have any other announcements | 22:08 |
| ochosi | me neither | 22:08 |
| ochosi | i guess we won't push any further patch releases of 4.14 into eoan | 22:08 |
| bluesabre | #info 19.10 to be released this coming Thursday (10/17), let's test it this week! | 22:09 |
| bluesabre | Yeah, at least without them being SRU | 22:09 |
| ochosi | unless they fix something critical which has yet to be discovered (4.14 is going suprisingly smooth in terms of critical bug reports) | 22:09 |
| bluesabre | Indeed, we did a good job with our years of slower-pace development and 6 months of rapid development ;) | 22:10 |
| ochosi | haha | 22:10 |
| bluesabre | So with no other announcements... | 22:10 |
| ochosi | that may be the new methodology to supersede "agile" :D | 22:10 |
| bluesabre | #topic Discussion | 22:10 |
| bluesabre | It's been a pretty quiet development cycle on the Xubuntu side of things | 22:11 |
| ochosi | yeah, as long as you ignore upstream efforts | 22:11 |
| ochosi | my time was pretty bound by that | 22:11 |
| bluesabre | Same, was pretty on it with Xfce up until September, then I was on personal stuff for a month | 22:12 |
| bluesabre | knome: for the record, I am a fan of the new wallpaper (as usual). Dig the colors! | 22:13 |
| bluesabre | I think we'll need to dig in and do a good round of planning in the next couple weeks, 20.04 is an LTS | 22:14 |
| ochosi | indeed | 22:14 |
| ochosi | although tbh i wouldn't change much about the 4.14 stuff | 22:14 |
| bluesabre | There's probably a few upstream changes we should bring down, like the pathbar | 22:14 |
| ochosi | pathbar? | 22:14 |
| bluesabre | in thunar | 22:15 |
| bluesabre | Instead of text entry | 22:15 |
| ochosi | oh dear | 22:16 |
| bluesabre | Not sure what other goodies there were yet :D | 22:16 |
| ochosi | i thought there was only that one now | 22:16 |
| ochosi | doesn't make much sense to me to keep both around tbh | 22:16 |
| bluesabre | Yeah | 22:17 |
| bluesabre | This is the default, https://imgur.com/itmSy7N.png | 22:17 |
| ochosi | meh | 22:17 |
| ochosi | ok, yeah, we should for sure switch | 22:17 |
| bluesabre | Otherwise, probably lots of papercut bugs to fix | 22:18 |
| ochosi | yeah | 22:18 |
| ochosi | tbh we could review some apps again | 22:18 |
| ochosi | i'd still like to get rid of gnome software for the fact that it keeps running in the background | 22:19 |
| ochosi | but i guess there is still no alternative to it | 22:19 |
| bluesabre | It gets a little bit better each cycle, but yeah... it's still not particularly great (and not up to where software-center was) | 22:20 |
| Unit193 | Still can't really find things, isn't so good in general. | 22:20 |
| ochosi | yeah, i also have to agree with that | 22:21 |
| ochosi | i've just gotten better at using apt since then | 22:21 |
| bluesabre | :D | 22:21 |
| Unit193 | Oh, I don't have it installed, I just get to see "I removed 'mail' in software center and now Xubuntu doesn't start, what happened?" in #xubuntu. | 22:21 |
| ochosi | lol | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | That should be fixed now, but not for some of the active releases | 22:22 |
| bluesabre | Exo 0.12.3 | 22:23 |
| bluesabre | !info exo-utils bionic | 22:23 |
| ubottu | exo-utils (source: exo): Utility files for libexo. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 45 kB, installed size 162 kB | 22:23 |
| bluesabre | !info exo-utils cosmic | 22:23 |
| ubottu | exo-utils (source: exo): Utility files for libexo. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.2-1 (cosmic), package size 45 kB, installed size 162 kB | 22:23 |
| bluesabre | !info exo-utils disco | 22:23 |
| ubottu | exo-utils (source: exo): Utility files for libexo. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.4-1 (disco), package size 45 kB, installed size 180 kB | 22:23 |
| bluesabre | well | 22:23 |
| bluesabre | So, disco users are happy | 22:23 |
| ochosi | disco dancers too | 22:24 |
| bluesabre | So, anything more to discuss for now? | 22:25 |
| ochosi | upstream we don't care enough about application metadata, that's also an area to improve... | 22:25 |
| ochosi | but not much we can do downstream imo | 22:25 |
| ochosi | no, i think for eoan we're fine | 22:25 |
| ochosi | we should probably schedule a meeting for e+1 soonish | 22:25 |
| bluesabre | Yeah, was thinking about getting one set up the following week | 22:26 |
| bluesabre | So it begins... | 22:26 |
| bluesabre | > Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] (20191012) has been added | 22:26 |
| ochosi | i'll be afk the last week of october | 22:27 |
| ochosi | just fyi | 22:27 |
| bluesabre | alrighty | 22:27 |
| bluesabre | #topic Schedule next meeting | 22:28 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: want to take it, or should I just run with it :) | 22:28 |
| ochosi | i | 22:29 |
| ochosi | i'd say run with it | 22:29 |
| ochosi | since i almost scheduled the meeting tonight ;) | 22:29 |
| bluesabre | lol | 22:29 |
| -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 19.10 - amd64 - amd64 built. | 22:29 | |
| bluesabre | #action bluesabre to schedule next meeting | 22:29 |
| meetingology | ACTION: bluesabre to schedule next meeting | 22:29 |
| bluesabre | #endmeeting | 22:29 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Sat Oct 12 22:29:41 2019 UTC. | 22:29 |
| meetingology | Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2019/xubuntu-devel.2019-10-12-21.58.moin.txt | 22:29 |
| ochosi | domo arigato | 22:29 |
| bluesabre | thanks ochosi Unit193 | 22:29 |
| Unit193 | Heh, I was hardly here. \o/ | 22:30 |
| ochosi | yeah, but what would we have done without you? | 22:31 |
| bluesabre | Not had a meeting | 22:31 |
| bluesabre | ;) | 22:31 |
| ochosi | indeed | 22:33 |
| Unit193 | Dang, that zfs stuff bumped the size by 40M. | 22:34 |
| ochosi | ouch | 22:34 |
| Unit193 | 'Core' is now 800M | 22:37 |
| Unit193 | As compared to Disco, at 736M. | 22:40 |
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