=== brainwash_ is now known as brainwash [20:10] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-seed:: Move ZFS from core to live. @ http://git.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/+git/xubuntu/commit/?id=73dc1d4c754d58c03acf8f5f6734206219a10cb5 (by Adam Conrad) [20:12] Cool [20:47] heya bluesabre [20:48] Hey ochosi [20:48] way to go sneaking in zfs support last minute :) [20:51] The flavors all figured it out in the last week, just tagging along [20:51] sure, still, nice of you to take the time [20:51] i know you're busy [20:54] Yeah, largely getting back in the Linux groove, just had a few more things the last few days [20:55] Planning a meeting Monday around my time [20:55] Can you stay up late? :) [20:56] uh, monday may be the only bad night... [20:56] have an interview on tuesday [20:58] even today/now would be better :) [20:58] Unit193 - you around? :) [21:08] :) [21:09] dang [21:09] that usually works [21:10] :D [21:13] bluesabre: got any recommendations for a good screen capturing app? [21:14] ochosi: kazam is good for video [21:15] ochosi: Peek captures an animated gif [21:16] that latter one i tried, but it segfaults (doublefree) when it tries to save the gif [21:16] an animated gif would have been ideal [21:16] bummer [21:18] I think there's a few fullscreen recording extensions for chrome [21:19] i'll see if i can get any of the others to work, maybe kazaam [21:19] simplescreenrecorder oddly also failed [21:19] "something went wrong during the initialization" [21:19] quite the error message :) [21:20] That sounds like a gst error [21:20] possible, yeah [21:20] i wanted to set up everything from scratch with 19.10 anyway [21:21] i've produced quite the franken-system here, with lots of xfce compiled from git master while working on 4.14 [21:21] I just got a new computer and have been setting it up today with 19.10 [21:21] noice [21:23] haha, so kazaam worked [21:24] i mean it produced a 150mb avi for a few secs, but who cares [21:24] but the cool part is: it included part of the red rectangle it uses to show where it's recording, just somewhere in the middle of the recording :'D [21:26] and the video capturing doesn't seem to be very smooth [21:32] :D [21:53] ochosi: Howdy. [21:53] oh there you go ::) [21:56] bluesabre: so, wanna do it now..? [21:57] oh, I've got time for a quick one, sure :) [21:58] #startmeeting Xubuntu Community Meeting [21:58] Meeting started Sat Oct 12 21:58:35 2019 UTC. The chair is bluesabre. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. [21:58] Available commands: action commands idea info link nick [21:58] Surprise! [21:58] !team | anybody around for a quick meeting? [21:58] anybody around for a quick meeting?: team is akxwi-dave, bluesabre, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193 [22:00] #chair ochosi [22:00] Current chairs: bluesabre ochosi [22:00] #chair Unit193 [22:00] Current chairs: Unit193 bluesabre ochosi [22:01] new motto: "better to have an impromptu meeting with a few people than no meetings at all" [22:01] :D [22:01] Works for me [22:01] #topic Open action items [22:01] #done bluesabre to replace light-locker with xfce4-screensaver in eoan [22:01] noice [22:01] #done bluesabre to mail the mailing list to discuss additional keyboard shortcuts [22:02] #done bluesabre to mail the team regarding the GTK styles in GIMP (noting GTK used to be default) [22:02] #done bluesabre to email a team vote for color emoji support in Xubuntu [22:02] never got to it: bluesabre to work on improving "starting point" documentation for dev/QA [22:02] never got to it: bluesabre to reach out to other flavors to improve shared documentation [22:03] i guess dev docs could be an upstream topic [22:03] at least i wouldn't duplicate the effort [22:03] and upstream could really use some time spent on that, and then we could simply link to it [22:03] Yeah [22:03] GIMP: GTK theme, got +4 / -0 [22:04] Color emoji: +3 / -1 [22:05] Keyboard shortcuts: Added Super+L for locking, Super+D for show desktop [22:05] #topic Updates and announcements [22:06] ochosi: Definitely in favor for upstream docs [22:06] i guess we got both 4.14 patch releases (settings, panel) into eoan? [22:06] ochosi: yeah, pretty sure [22:06] !info xfce4-settings eoan [22:06] that's pretty neat [22:06] xfce4-settings (source: xfce4-settings): graphical application for managing Xfce settings. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.14.1-1ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 565 kB, installed size 3535 kB [22:06] !info xfce4-panel eoan [22:06] xfce4-panel (source: xfce4-panel): panel for Xfce4 desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.14.1-0ubuntu1 (eoan), package size 623 kB, installed size 3599 kB [22:07] i think i was the only one doing patch releases so far [22:07] so that should be it [22:07] #info Xfce 4.14 released, available in 19.10 [22:07] #info Root ZFS installation now available with the 19.10 daily image [22:08] I don't think I have any other announcements [22:08] me neither [22:08] i guess we won't push any further patch releases of 4.14 into eoan [22:09] #info 19.10 to be released this coming Thursday (10/17), let's test it this week! [22:09] Yeah, at least without them being SRU [22:09] unless they fix something critical which has yet to be discovered (4.14 is going suprisingly smooth in terms of critical bug reports) [22:10] Indeed, we did a good job with our years of slower-pace development and 6 months of rapid development ;) [22:10] haha [22:10] So with no other announcements... [22:10] that may be the new methodology to supersede "agile" :D [22:10] #topic Discussion [22:11] It's been a pretty quiet development cycle on the Xubuntu side of things [22:11] yeah, as long as you ignore upstream efforts [22:11] my time was pretty bound by that [22:12] Same, was pretty on it with Xfce up until September, then I was on personal stuff for a month [22:13] knome: for the record, I am a fan of the new wallpaper (as usual). Dig the colors! [22:14] I think we'll need to dig in and do a good round of planning in the next couple weeks, 20.04 is an LTS [22:14] indeed [22:14] although tbh i wouldn't change much about the 4.14 stuff [22:14] There's probably a few upstream changes we should bring down, like the pathbar [22:14] pathbar? [22:15] in thunar [22:15] Instead of text entry [22:16] oh dear [22:16] Not sure what other goodies there were yet :D [22:16] i thought there was only that one now [22:16] doesn't make much sense to me to keep both around tbh [22:17] Yeah [22:17] This is the default, https://imgur.com/itmSy7N.png [22:17] meh [22:17] ok, yeah, we should for sure switch [22:18] Otherwise, probably lots of papercut bugs to fix [22:18] yeah [22:18] tbh we could review some apps again [22:19] i'd still like to get rid of gnome software for the fact that it keeps running in the background [22:19] but i guess there is still no alternative to it [22:20] It gets a little bit better each cycle, but yeah... it's still not particularly great (and not up to where software-center was) [22:20] Still can't really find things, isn't so good in general. [22:21] yeah, i also have to agree with that [22:21] i've just gotten better at using apt since then [22:21] :D [22:21] Oh, I don't have it installed, I just get to see "I removed 'mail' in software center and now Xubuntu doesn't start, what happened?" in #xubuntu. [22:22] lol [22:22] That should be fixed now, but not for some of the active releases [22:23] Exo 0.12.3 [22:23] !info exo-utils bionic [22:23] exo-utils (source: exo): Utility files for libexo. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 (bionic), package size 45 kB, installed size 162 kB [22:23] !info exo-utils cosmic [22:23] exo-utils (source: exo): Utility files for libexo. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.2-1 (cosmic), package size 45 kB, installed size 162 kB [22:23] !info exo-utils disco [22:23] exo-utils (source: exo): Utility files for libexo. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12.4-1 (disco), package size 45 kB, installed size 180 kB [22:23] well [22:23] So, disco users are happy [22:24] disco dancers too [22:25] So, anything more to discuss for now? [22:25] upstream we don't care enough about application metadata, that's also an area to improve... [22:25] but not much we can do downstream imo [22:25] no, i think for eoan we're fine [22:25] we should probably schedule a meeting for e+1 soonish [22:26] Yeah, was thinking about getting one set up the following week [22:26] So it begins... [22:26] > Builds: Xubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] (20191012) has been added [22:27] i'll be afk the last week of october [22:27] just fyi [22:27] alrighty [22:28] #topic Schedule next meeting [22:28] ochosi: want to take it, or should I just run with it :) [22:29] i [22:29] i'd say run with it [22:29] since i almost scheduled the meeting tonight ;) [22:29] lol [22:29] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ATTN: Xubuntu Core 19.10 - amd64 - amd64 built. [22:29] #action bluesabre to schedule next meeting [22:29] ACTION: bluesabre to schedule next meeting [22:29] #endmeeting [22:29] Meeting ended Sat Oct 12 22:29:41 2019 UTC. [22:29] Minutes: http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2019/xubuntu-devel.2019-10-12-21.58.moin.txt [22:29] domo arigato [22:29] thanks ochosi Unit193 [22:30] Heh, I was hardly here. \o/ [22:31] yeah, but what would we have done without you? [22:31] Not had a meeting [22:31] ;) [22:33] indeed [22:34] Dang, that zfs stuff bumped the size by 40M. [22:34] ouch [22:37] 'Core' is now 800M [22:40] As compared to Disco, at 736M.