[00:04] (xenial)jshor@localhost:~$ sudo hcitool devDevices: hci0 E4:42:A6:2C:6A:77(xenial)jshor@localhost:~$ lsusb | grep Blue(xenial)jshor@localhost:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth status * bluetooth is not running(xenial)jshor@localhost:~$ dmesg | grep Bluetooth(xenial)jshor@localhost:~$ [00:04] Dammit, can't keep my newlines :P [00:05] Am just full of fail today ... anyway, the Bluetooth app says no adapter found, so I can't turn it on. But there should be one [00:05] Maybe I'm just missing a driver? I don't know ... [00:07] rfkill list shows hci0 is unblocked both soft and hard too [00:12] !paste | JShor [00:12] JShor: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [00:12] hi, anyone know how to get a Kodak camera to work with cheese? i need to take pictures for a database [00:13] !crosspost | keres [00:13] keres: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [00:15] well it shows up in lsusb, is there some special software you must install in linux to use external cameras? [00:17] i have limited experience with this, none with video cams. my guess is this could be about libmtp and v4l [00:18] so video 4 linux has to be install to do this sort of thing? [00:18] Here we go https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/WcX9vbvB87/ [00:18] i have done it maybee 5 or so years ago... but my memory is not so good [00:18] at least the library, i assume. but then cheese should already depend on it [00:20] So I paired some devices in chromes then switchd back to Ubuntu mode and now dmesg has some output whereas it was totally blank before [00:21] Maybe the correct answer is to toss the chromebook in the trash and get a real computer [00:35] my CUPS web ui gets stuck in a POST loop of some sort: [00:35] localhost - - [13/Oct/2019:11:34:50 +1100] "POST / HTTP/1.1" 401 91 CUPS-Get-Devices successful-ok [00:35] Anybody seen this before? [00:37] I'm spotting a 401 HTTP response code... hmmm.... [01:42] tomreyn: hi, I now have a bootable usb with ubuntu 19.04 on it. I still have to download/update my bios, and apparently a dell driver pack. I'm not sure though what precisely and in what order I'm supposed to do, now that I have created a bootable ubuntu usb..? -thx [01:44] * NicQ wonders if this silence is normal... [01:44] johnjbogle, for dell, all i know is https://medium.com/@nrogap/dell-repository-for-install-additional-drivers-on-ubuntu-4cf061640180 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:35] OerHeks: not too sure what I can/should do with that, too high above my paygrade for now...but thanks! === BrianG61UK_ is now known as BrianG61UK [02:40] !biosupdate | johnjbogle [02:40] johnjbogle: To see how to update your bios on Ubuntu visit the community collected methods here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BIOSUpdate [02:40] thx! [02:56] E: Unable to locate package nfs-utils [02:56] E: Unable to locate package nfs-utils-lib [02:56] how to solve this? [02:57] !info nfs-utils [02:57] Package nfs-utils does not exist in bionic [02:57] e nfs-utils [02:57] Hell guys - I'm having some issues with stty in Ubuntu 16.04 - it's been a while, so I'm not sure if I'm just using it wrong, or something is actually broken. I can't get it to let me set any actual settings. It just ignores everything I tell it (except baud rate). [02:58] Trying to set it to 7 bit mode, which should just be stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 cs7 - but it doesn't change anything. Similarly, can't set stop bits, or parity, or anything else. [03:08] Has anybody gotten printing to work to a CUPS server without having CUPS installed at the client? === pavlushka_ is now known as pavlushka === im0nde_ is now known as im0nde === mnemonic is now known as Guest55950 [04:08] Hi, what command can I get if current cpu arch is arm64 or amd64? [04:09] lscpu [04:09] oh, installed arch ? [04:10] dpkg --print-architecture [04:11] OerHeks: nice [04:11] thanks [04:18] hmm, is there a command that can get the active ld on current system? [04:19] /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 or /lib64/ld-linux-aarch64.so.1 [04:19] I need a script to tell them apart [05:10] I'd like to modify PDF documents (combine/merge/remove pages). [05:10] What's a good Ubuntu tool for this? [05:17] acetakwas: inkscape seems to be popular for pdf editing [05:25] is inkscape still active? it hasn't moved much in years. [05:25] i always worry about it because there's nothing else OSS like it. [05:25] !info inkscape [05:25] inkscape (source: inkscape): vector-based drawing program. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.92.3-1 (bionic), package size 16408 kB, installed size 122852 kB [05:26] gbellinoz: still active [05:38] how do I see the "recommends" of a package? [05:42] CarlFK: "apt show " === westor{off} is now known as westor [06:29] hmm, what's wrong with this https://la.wentropy.com/GaGh [06:55] Hi, I have a bluetooth headphones, each time I disconnect them (via power off or from the bluetooth menu), the next connection does not transffer sound to the headphones without one more dissconection and connection [06:56] ubuntu 18.04* [07:02] Hi, when I log in to Ubuntu for the first time, /usr/lib/gnome-initial-setup/gnome-initial-setup runs. Could someone run it and verify that this window can not be moved around with the mouse? (it's just a welcome dialog with a couple of questions) [07:03] Spock_ncc1701: maybe this? : # alias mc="echo -e 'power on\nconnect EC:EA:03:36:7D:8B \nquit' | bluetoothctl" [07:12] ponyrider: is there a way to make it work without adding aliases? [07:13] ur meant to put it in ur bashrc Spock_ncc1701 [07:14] i know what aliases are. but why do you want to put it there? [07:15] its just meant to connect ur headphones easily. idk worked for me [07:17] ponyrider: The problem is that the sound control is not working after I disconnect the headphones and connect them back on [07:18] alkisg: yes that ubuntu-desktop welcome screen is moveable [07:18] ponyrider: btw, mc is midnight commander's name [07:19] lotuspsychje: thank you, meh, I wonder what's wrong in my vm then [07:20] alkisg: is that on bionic? [07:20] Yes, ubuntu 18.04.3 gnome 64bit virtualbox, inside 18.04 mate [07:21] alkisg: whats the command to launch it again, i can re-test here if you like [07:21] /usr/lib/gnome-initial-setup/gnome-initial-setup --existing-user [07:24] johnjbogle: if you still need help with the bios upgrade, i'm around for a while now, but let's do it in private then since this is not ubuntu support [07:25] alkisg: what i did notice on some machines, the boot to desktop lags due to the welcome screen [07:25] alkisg: after that second boot goes normal again [07:31] 0 [07:32] alkisg: lemme test on a new user holdon [07:33] alkisg: my bad, its NOT moveable [07:35] hello [07:35] can someone help me [07:35] libreoffice is displaying double menus [07:36] OERIAS: can you screenshot, so volunteers can take a look? [07:38] lotuspsychje, https://imgur.com/a/5HOtN3L [07:39] OERIAS: wich ubuntu version is that? [07:39] 19.04 [07:39] on unity [07:39] Spock_ncc1701: mb you would prob have to select your headphones as an output device. they should show up in pavucontrol [07:40] OERIAS: did you try to close all your apps, and open a writer document alone? [07:41] this happens whether or not all applications or a single application is open [07:41] OERIAS: ok, seems like a bug to me [07:42] OERIAS: do you have this on gnome too? [07:42] No [07:42] just on Unity [07:42] OERIAS: ok, do you know howto file a bug? [07:43] Someone has already filed a bug [07:46] (10:33:47 AM) lotuspsychje: alkisg: my bad, its NOT moveable => thank you! I'll report a bug [07:48] hey guys - cannot for the life of me find where to disable dock icons for mounted internal drives https://i.imgur.com/9ESm0cQ.png [08:27] hey the next LTS when will be available? [08:28] in april next year [08:29] ok [08:34] anyone knows some app for ubuntu to visual sync subtitles with waveform? [09:39] Hello o/ [09:39] I have a question [09:40] I am planning on installing ubuntu with i3wm but i am planning to keep it a minimalistic install [09:40] alkisg: let me know bug report url, ill affect it too [09:40] lotuspsychje: ty, will do [09:41] Does anyone know how to do so?? Or know of a guide which might help [09:42] Sidd_Dino: I haven't done it, but installing from the minimal cd and then installing i3wm over it sounds like a plan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [09:42] Cool [09:43] Sidd_Dino: there's also a #i3 channel if you like [09:43] Will check it out :) [09:44] Installing just i3wm is one task but dong it entirely offline is gonna be another task [09:44] alkisg: i wonder if they made it not-moveable on purpose? like the user has to complete the welcome screen? [09:44] Doesnt a community version exist with just i3wm in it ? Like majaro has [09:45] lotuspsychje: eh, that does sound very silly though. Non closeable *might* be ok'ish, but non-movable... nah [09:45] alkisg: agree [09:47] lotuspsychje: specifically, if one has rotated screen, he can't even press the "next" button, it's outside the screen view, and with the window non-movable, it's impossible [09:48] alkisg: yeah i thought already you had a reason it would interfere soemthing else.. [09:48] I have my VMs occupy half of my 1920x1080 screen, so they're 960x1000 pixels, and it's impossible to complete the initial dialog there [09:49] alkisg: would also be interesting if someone tested this on unity, wich has also good touch support [09:49] alkisg: might be a pain on small netbooks aswell right? [09:49] Yes, anything <= 1024 width [09:49] right [09:50] alkisg: weird nobody noticed this before :p [09:50] True! I'm using mate so I hadn't bothered with gnome... [09:56] Hey, could anyone help me out with scaling for GNOME on ubuntu? I have an nvidia graphics card which doesn't support wayland, so I'm not able to use the 100, 125, 150 etc scaling options from the GUI. [09:57] I've tried using xrandr, but instead of making things appear bigger, everything is the same size. The windows just end up falling off the screen [09:57] tamj0rd2: is your graphics card driver installed correctly? [09:57] Yep it is. I've done some looking online and nvidia apparently doesn't support wayland (which is what allows you to get the 125% and 150% scaling) [09:57] lotuspsychje [09:58] tamj0rd2: wayland + nvidia is a no go for now [09:58] Do you know how I might be able to make stuff on my display bigger using xrandr? [09:58] tamj0rd2: why do you need scaling? [09:58] is it high dpi? [09:58] ryuo I have multiple monitors. My laptop one is high dpi so it's hard to read [09:58] My external monitor is fine though [09:59] Welcome to another sore point of X11 and Linux. HDPI is still somewhat of a crappy experience. [09:59] but [09:59] some environments have measures of handling it. [09:59] though it's still heavily dependent on what applications you use. [10:00] lol, luckily this is the last issue I think I'll run into [10:00] tamj0rd2: there are some scaling options in dconf-editor if you like too [10:00] Well I'll mainly be using ubuntu for software dev, but I might use it for other things too ryuo [10:00] tamj0rd2: what did you try with xrandr? [10:00] yes, that uses application toolkit scaling. [10:01] tamj0rd2: honestly, i would search around for HDPI solutions, particularly ubuntu. another flavor may do a better job. [10:01] TJ- I tried scaling my laptop display using `xrandr --output eDP-1-1 --scale 1.2x1.2` but that doesn't make any content bigger. It just makes windows go off the screen [10:01] for most stuff. as i said, it depends what software you use. [10:02] fair enough. maybe I'll just need to get a different distro then [10:02] ubuntu flavors aren't a different distro. [10:02] they're usually the ubuntu base with a different set of GUI packages. [10:02] what do you mean then? stuff like lubuntu and kubuntu, or something else? [10:02] those are 'flavors', yes. [10:02] ahh, gotcha [10:03] they're directly supported by ubuntu so [10:03] hardly a different distribution. [10:03] thanks. I'm pretty new to this whole thing :P [10:03] i would call the third party derivatives a different distribution though [10:03] LM and friends. [10:05] tamj0rd2: ubuntu mate is what i would suggest. it's a lot more customizable that I can see. though not sure how good the high dpi is. [10:06] ryuo (y) I'll have a look [10:06] i recall it having various modes for emulating unity and some other common UI layouts. [10:07] though i know LM's cinnamon has been doing a lot of work for HiDPI, but that's off topic here. [10:09] tamj0rd2: generally what you want is either/or --fbmm or --dpi *but* recently I've noticed the physical size reported by 'xrandr -q' differs from 'xdpyinfo' screen "dimensions" [10:10] ah, I'll check that out and see if I can get it working [10:11] Hello,Is any script to find the fastest mirror link during every installation? [10:15] tamj0rd2: I meant to add to the above "... *but* the DE doesn't make a real-time change". So likely it'd need to be applied early via a drop-in fragment in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ [10:16] ohh, so I'd probably have to write a script for it? [10:16] amrasouli79: I *think* the installers try to detect the closest mirror [10:16] tamj0rd2: possibly; it's a while since I had to use that mechanism [10:17] tamj0rd2: it's just a call to xrandr but has to be done before the DE starts, presumably so the DE calculates the correct DPI scaling for rendering [10:17] cool, thanks [10:22] amrasouli79: i'm not sure whether the installers help you find the 'fastest mirror' (actually it would be good to define this term more first of all), most let you choose a mirror that's within a given country, though. [10:24] "fast" could mean "low latency / ping, fast responses", it can mean "high bandwidth / throughput", it can mean "early availability of updates" === dionysus70 is now known as dionysus69 [10:29] amrasouli79: there's one that works off latency. these are often also the fastest but no guarantee. [10:30] oh, it's not part of ubuntu. shame. it's apt-select. [10:43] Upgraded to Eoan Ermine. Probably wasn't wise in retrospect because I got myself a spicy error. The "Oh god the screen's bleeding" kind. [10:44] !ubuntu+1 [10:44] Eoan Ermine is the codename for Ubuntu 19.10 - Support only in #ubuntu+1 [10:45] CarlenWhite: ^^ [10:45] Wilco. [10:58] Hi folks [11:27] Hi All [11:27] Which antivirus you use for ubuntu desktop (18.04) machine [11:28] clamav * maldet are there but they are not that much good [11:28] nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ uname -a [11:28] Linux ubuntu-ivan 5.4.0-050400rc2-generic #201910062030 SMP Mon Oct 7 00:33:58 UTC 2019 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux [11:28] nikolov@ubuntu-ivan:~$ [11:28] is cool [11:31] !antivirus | kolaman [11:31] kolaman: An "antivirus" is primarily a concept from the Windows ecosystem and usually a program like that is not needed on Linux because the threat model is different. Malware on Linux does exist, however. Google up "rkhunter" and "linux intrusion detection systems". Also look up !clamav [13:27] tomreyn: hi tom, you were asking me yesterday if I could get temporary internet access to my problem laptop...I was finally able to get wired internet to it. [13:37] johnjbogle: did you fix your issue now? [13:46] No. I'm not sure what I need to do now. [13:46] johnjbogle: can you restate at wich point you are stuck please? [13:47] johnjbogle: maybe the easiest will be if you sum up the issue again and post your system log: journalctl -b | nc termbin.com 9999 [13:48] wifi drivers? [13:48] johnjbogle,^ [13:58] ok so several issues... I have installed Unity, Ubuntu, and Ubuntu On Wayland... Currently only able to use UOW, the other two display some crazy all-white error page ("Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again.") This happened only a few days ago when I was told to do an update (I think update Unity, but could've been updating from 18.04 to 19.04)...because I was having some [13:58] bizarre wifi/network problem (wasn't able to connect), so was trying to solve that problem by updating something, and updating seemed to cause even more problems. Yesterday tomreyn suggested I do what I can to get my problem-machine connected to internet (which it now is) and to do a bios update. Connected to internet now via cat5 cable, not sure what my next steps are supposed to be. [13:59] https://termbin.com/oscu [14:01] BluesKaj: I'm sure there's probably something wrong with my wifi drivers, since my original issue was not being able to connect to wifi, but really I have no idea. [14:01] johnjbogle: can you pastebin: sudo lshw -C network && sudo lshw -C video && lsb_release -a [14:02] johnjbogle, hope you weren't trying to upgrade directly from 18.04 to 19.04, unless it was a clean install from an iso image [14:05] BluesKaj: no it was not a clean install from an iso image. I was just entering terminal commands that i was being told to enter by a friend / linux semi-guru [14:05] How do I d the pastebin? [14:05] How do I do the pastebin? [14:05] !paste | johnjbogle [14:05] johnjbogle: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:07] did this "guru" tell you to install 18,10 first, then install 19.04 ? [14:20] He says all he had me do was: sudo do-release-upgrade -d [14:20] johnjbogle: can you pastebin the command i asked please? [14:22] Ok was just chatting my buddy to get clarity on what he had me do etc. [14:22] Will attempt the pastebin now.... === Rez__ is now known as Rez [14:27] Is this what you were asking for? https://pastebin.com/Mwr9C7qQ [14:28] johnjbogle: you are on ubuntu 19.10 so support in #ubuntu+1 please [14:28] ok [14:30] Btw, not sure if this matters or not...but he said I had 19.04, I upgraded to 19.10 via SUDO DO-RELEASE-UPGRADE -D [14:32] now he tells us [14:33] johnjbogle: the -d puts you on the development release [14:55] Is there a way to get rid of apparmor? [14:56] KalleBlom: whats your endgoal exactly? [14:57] To work around a problem temporarily: during boot apparmor_parser is started, unfortunately it eats up so much RAM, that the system thrashes (I guess without SWAP OOM-Killer would have a party. [14:58] KalleBlom: how much ram do you have on wich ubuntu version? [15:00] KalleBlom: you could add to kernel command line from GRUB, "systemd.mask=apparmor.service" [15:00] Ubuntu 18.04.3 (LTS) RAM is at 2 GB and the GPU gets 256MB from that (yes, it is a small somewhat oldish system). Currently looking for a replacement module with 8GB, that's the maximum for that system. [15:01] KalleBlom: are you sure its apparmor bottlenecking and not just gnome? [15:02] KalleBlom: its usually reccomended to use gnome with 4GB and higher (if not tweaked) [15:03] lotuspsychje: Kinda, when teh login screen comes up, I' seeing several apparmor_parsers, some of them having residential sizes of way over 1G .... I wonder if there's a leak somewhre in apparmor_parser [15:04] KalleBlom: more likely some package has installed bad profile(s) [15:05] So, I have a bit of a weird issue. [15:05] Everything onscreen is blurry. [15:06] KalleBlom: could you pastebin: systemd-analyze blame [15:06] TJ: Might be, I'm especially seeing problems for gnome-calculator I think and another gnome profile .... so, you are probably right. and thanks for the tip with masking the service, I'll try this for the time beeing, until I can sort this out (not my box actually ... [15:06] If a section of the screen is updated, then it will temporarily become clear, but the longer it sits without an update, the worse it gets. [15:07] OneM_Industries: could you screenshot that, so the volunteers have a look on whats happening please? [15:08] lotuspsychje: would be tricky .. system is on another floor ... however I looked at systemd-blame and there was nothing popping right into the eye ... the system is slow, things take a couple seconds here and there, but nothing erratic ... [15:08] KalleBlom: you can replace the gnome-calculator snap by the debian package (sudo snap remove gnome-calculator && sudo apt update && sudo apt install gnome-calculator) [15:09] KalleBlom: did you see snapd ontop the blame? [15:09] tomreyn: Thanks - I never looked into the snap stuff, just set up the system a couple years back and gave it to my parents ;-). [15:10] lotuspsychje: let me check ... [15:10] KalleBlom: would be nice to share with the volunteers too [15:10] the full paste that is [15:10] lotuspsychje: Working on it, it's rather hard to use this computer right now. ;) [15:11] Now it's started repeatedly "pulsing" between in and out of focus... [15:11] https://i.imgur.com/BuzNznJ.png [15:12] !tty | OneM_Industries [15:12] OneM_Industries: To get to the TTY terminals 3-6, use the keystroke Ctrl + Alt + F3-F6 respectively. Ctrl-Alt-F2 or Ctrl-Alt-F1 will get you back to your graphical login (Ctrl-Alt-F7 on 16.04). To change TTY resolution, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution [15:12] ^ if it's too slow on the GUI you can switch to a text shell === SimonNL is now known as SimonNL_Afk [15:12] tomreyn: It's not slow, it's just the graphics are messed up. [15:13] Aside from that, everything appears to be normal. [15:13] i see, well this could make it hard to work, too [15:13] OneM_Industries: what kind of graphics card are you on? [15:14] 1060. [15:14] 1060 graphics cards? [15:14] Nah, Nvidia 1060. [15:15] OneM_Industries: a GTX 1060 [15:15] Also, this only started after rebooting due to a power loss earlier this morning. [15:15] OneM_Industries: wich nvidia driver are you using please? [15:15] Figuring it out, one sec.. [15:15] OneM_Industries: now we're getting to the point ... prime suspect is GPU or PSU damage [15:16] lotuspsychje: I'm logged into the system remotely now, will make things easier ... [15:16] GTX 1060, yes. [15:16] OneM_Industries: create a new user account and log-in to it; do you see the same problem? [15:16] One sec. [15:17] KalleBlom: ok cool pastebin: systemd-analyze blame && systemd-analyze critical-chain [15:18] KalleBlom: you might also want to check the user session if that is slow, with "systemd-analyze --user blame" [15:19] critical chain: https://pastebin.com/awVSAvtp [15:20] Alright, the issue is not present when logged in as a different user, even if said user was created prior to this. [15:21] And here's the blame: https://pastebin.com/X8Xnf03c [15:21] Also, this flickering/pulsing is extremely nauseating. >.> [15:22] KalleBlom: your sda3 is a spinner HD? [15:23] OneM_Industries: that suggests there's some user-specific config causing it [15:23] Great. [15:23] Any idea where to start? [15:23] lotuspsychje: exactly, probably a 5400 RPM one [15:23] OneM_Industries: $HOME/.xsession-errors [15:24] KalleBlom: so what i think is happening, is gnome3 & snapd taking a long time to boot, togheter with your spinner sda3 [15:24] KalleBlom: i dont think purging apparmor is going to make your system run smooth with those specs [15:25] Shouldn't take 23 seconds for the device to become ready [15:25] KalleBlom: check for disk I/O errors with "journalctl -k -p warning" [15:26] TJ-: https://pastebin.com/0E6buPHD [15:26] lotuspsychje: well, once the apparmor_parser processes are gone, things are 'okayish'. while they are running the diskload is at max - that's why I think the system thrashes (swapping constantly) [15:27] KalleBlom: with your system, consider ubuntu-desktop with the minimal option, or lubuntu/xubuntu [15:27] TJ: Only warnings about one USB Port - taht'S expected, when I booted the system earlier the keybpoard wasn't properly plugged :-O. [15:27] KalleBlom: purging apparmor will influence snapd and get you unwanted behaviour perhaps [15:28] lotuspsychje: I see, well, for now I can at least try what happens .... another thing: would there be an easy way to restrict the number of apparmor_parsers that will be spawned? default seems to be 8xCPU, if I'm not mistaken... [15:28] KalleBlom, somethin is amiss but can't pinpoint what. as lotuspsychje said already wouldn't purging apparmor kill the system, as it is setup right now with gnome3 snap and all [15:29] OneM_Industries: no clue there then [15:29] Yeah, it's pretty normal. [15:29] BTW, I have a video uploading of what it's doing. [15:30] KalleBlom: i used 18.04 for some time on 2GB ram too, then then i extreme tweaked it to make things run smooth, disable unwanted services, bleachbit the system, cut down startup items, purge unwanted software, install preload etc [15:30] OneM_Industries: I'm wondering if the compositor is continuously crashing and being restarted [15:30] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZ7cvYspYCI&feature=youtu.be [15:30] OneM_Industries: did you find your graphics driver version yet? [15:30] lotuspsychje: Okay, so, I'll upgrade the RAM and give the system one of my older SSDs, let's see if that helps .... [15:31] KalleBlom: that surely will help [15:31] Nvidia Driver Version: 384.130 [15:31] uh [15:33] OneM_Industries: wich ubuntu version are you on? [15:33] 14.04, and yes I know it's old. [15:33] *facepalm* [15:34] I've tried upgrading a couple times, and it did not go well. [15:34] OneM_Industries: 14.04 is end of life by now, are you paying for ESM? [15:34] No. [15:35] OneM_Industries: then im affraid we cannot support you [15:35] Ah, ok. NP. [15:35] OneM_Industries: install a supported version from the topic [15:35] Thank you for the help. :) [15:35] Nah, I'm sticking with this for now. [15:36] why is't /etc/mysql deleted after running "sudo apt remove --purge "*mariadb*" ? [15:36] Guys, thanks for your help so far, apreciate it ... [15:38] hans_: dpkg -S /etc/mysql [15:38] ohm, mysql-common, thanks [16:00] Hi there! I am looking for a way to manually tell update-grub which device to use as root= boot argument, does anybody know one? [16:04] edit it on the grub menu or use /boot/grub/custom.cfg or /etc/grub.d/40_custom (the latter if you want it parsed / variables updated automatically) [16:05] sorry, i forgot to say i'm using grub2 [16:07] since you're asking on this channel, you supposedly use one of the supported ubuntu versions listed on the topic, and a supported architecture, so amd64 (or i386), all of which use grub2 [16:07] lotuspsychje: Figured I'd give you an update. Switching from the Nvidia driver to the X.org one and back again fixed the issue. [16:08] OneM_Industries: the users choice, to run nouveau on a GTX card on an eol ubuntu version.. [16:08] bodom, i usually do it in /etc/default/grub 's GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT [16:09] Yep. [16:09] tomreyn: then i only have /etc/grub.d/40_custom and a not inside of it says it's there for adding custom menu entries [16:09] bodom, (that will add the root= arguments for every kernel) [16:10] bodom: do you want to have all the grub menu options use this custom root= parameter, or just some? [16:11] bodom: and do you want to use it regularly or just once or twice for testing? [16:11] hans_: if it add it there, i will end up with a double "root=" argument given in my entries (the automatic one first) [16:12] oh kk [16:12] (guess you've already figured out how then ^^ ) [16:12] tomreyn: i want all linux options to use my manually given "root=" for a long time [16:13] uhm, wait, manaully? are you manually editing /boot/grub/menu.lst ? [16:13] hans_: i have no menu.lst, afaik, that's grub1 [16:14] bodom: maybe you need to set GRUB_DEVICE_BOOT or one of its friends [16:14] .. does the 18.04 netinst installer use grub 1.x? [16:16] TJ-: sounds interesting, do you know where GRUB_DEVICE_BOOT and its friends are documented? [16:16] bodom: see "grep -B 2 -A 15 'export GRUB_DEVICE' /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig " [16:18] bodom, on my 18.04 installation i have "grub 2.02-2ubuntu8.13", and it uses /boot/grub/menu.lst - in fact, that file is re-generated every time i run `sudo update-grub` [16:19] TJ-: that stuff seems to be related to finding the /boot device which, in my case, is a different one and it's ok as it is autodetected [16:19] hans_: i have grub.cfg instead, don't know why [16:20] hum, i have both of those [16:20] hans_: ls -l /boot/grub/menu.lst [16:20] should be pretty old [16:20] they look largely similar, but they have different b2sums [16:21] bodom: that is incorrect; see "grep -A 5 'Typically used for root= parameter' /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig" [16:21] menu.lst is grub 1 (AKA 0.99), which is no longer in use for years, grub.cfg is grub2 [16:21] they're both from today because i re-installed the system today [16:21] grub.cfg is 1 hour newer tho [16:22] but it was re-installed from the netinst installer, hmm [16:23] -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4410 Oct 13 06:15 menu.lst ----- -r--r--r-- 1 root root 6812 Oct 13 07:39 grub.cfg [16:23] hans_: I seem to recall a menu.lst is generated due to something with cloud-init and/or supporting AWS instances or something like that [16:23] well idk what cloud-init is, but it's not running on AWS [16:24] it's possible that i installed open-vm-tools tho [16:24] w/e, good to know [16:25] TJ-: looks like ti worked, going to reboot and try :D [16:25] brb [16:27] Hello,How I can customise my ubuntu dock? [16:28] TJ-: yes, that's the correct setting, thank you again ;) [16:28] bodom: :) [16:32] amrasouli79: customize how [16:35] lotuspsychje: I saw a link in gnome-look website [16:35] lotuspsychje:https://www.gnome-look.org/p/1221421/ [16:36] lotuspsychje:but there are any way that teach me how i can customize it.this mean install this theme. [16:43] !themes | amrasouli79 [16:43] amrasouli79: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy === BrianG61UK__ is now known as BrianG61UK [16:44] amrasouli79: see also gnome-tweak-tool to easy switch your themes and modify preferences [16:46] lotuspsychje: thank you [16:46] ubottu: thank you [16:46] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) === SimonNL_Afk is now known as SimonNL [16:46] amrasouli79: installing dconf-tools (dconf-editor from terminal) can also help you tweak alot of settings [17:17] Q: When I try to install mpv or vlc with `apt` on a netinst installation (with no DE/flavor) (e.g `sudo apt install`), it wants to install the whole Ubuntu Desktop. Is that a known bug? [17:27] Hm, seems like it happens with other packages... [17:28] sdk that probubly happening because you have no DE installed and the app that you are installing requires some sort of GUI [17:28] `apt` try to install packages that aren't in "recommends". Like they aren't related at all with the package [17:28] sdk: wich netinstall version of ubuntu are you on? [17:29] tonyt: mpv doesn't need a GUI and shouldn't try to install a package that isn't in recommends. [17:29] lotuspsychje: 19.04 [17:30] TJ-: Hi TJ, it seems that to have ACPI support on a toshiba laptop you have to recompile the kernel with some options on, last time you were going to guide me on how to do this? [17:30] Another example is `vifm` try to install `ruby`. But as you can see it doesn't need it https://packages.ubuntu.com/disco/vifm [17:33] sdk: whats your end goal exactly? are you not going to install a GUI? [17:34] lotuspsychje: I only use i3 window manager [17:34] My goal is to install a minimal OS like I did on Debian. [17:35] doing `sudo apt install mpv` doesn't install gnome-shell on Debian :p [17:35] sdk: and did you install x11 and the i3 tools yet? [17:35] yep [17:35] i did. [17:35] ducasse: this one is for you ^ [17:37] sdk: see also the #i3 channel to talk to the i3 experts [17:38] lotuspsychje: They don't answer question related to `apt` or Ubuntu. [17:38] sdk: i think what ducasse is doing, is installing from the server image or alternate lubuntu [17:39] to avoid the preinstalled desktops [17:39] i'm looking at this now [17:39] sdk, tell it to not install the recommended packages [17:39] sdk, because it does by default afaik [17:40] kostkon: There's still something broken because it should recursively want to install the whole DE [17:41] Settings recommends to false in apt whole mean I'll need to install packges one by one. [17:41] And they will be marked as manually installed. [17:43] ioria: johnjbogle is now gonna try your blacklist trick in +1 [17:43] lotuspsychje, i see [17:44]