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The_LoudSpeaker[05:42 pm] <76b3The_LoudSpeakerQuery: How do I install steam on eoan? I tried apt install steam-installer but it says unmet dependencies, depends on steam but it is not installable.12:15
The_LoudSpeakerShould have asked here only. Trying in lubuntu.12:15
guiverc2The_LoudSpeaker, I gather from #ubuntu you had a prior question answered; you could always search irc logs for that conversation  (just a thought; I've done it before..)12:23
The_LoudSpeakerThat was more than a month ago. I don't remember the date. Plus considering the no of users and daily queries on that channel. It wouldn't be easy.12:24
The_LoudSpeakerBut I will give it a try in an hour or so. If someone answers before that then it's good.12:25
guiverc2I've found my conversations before by searching my username; I'd hope yours is unique enough to work too... I don't know anything about steam so can't help sorry12:25
tMHguiverc2 - hiya. I've installed lubuntu 16.40 and discovered, that _no_ browsers are about to run on my system.. honestly, I don't need much GUI and browing on that machine - it's a filehoster, but I just wonder - why ? old xubuntu 12.* was able to run freshly updated firefox, srware iron (chrome fork) etc...12:26
guiverc2Lubuntu 16.04 LTS had 3 years of support; it ended 2019-April and is no longer supported by the Lubuntut team.  I'd recommend Lubuntu 18.04 LTS; or using Ubuntu 16.04 Server for hosting/file-serving functions12:28
guiverc2tMH, ^12:28
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> tMH: Firefox doesn't run? Also, End of Support.12:28
tMHguiverc2 - so - no chance to run gui browsers at all ?:/12:28
guiverc2gui browsers may work; but given the GUI is EOL; it's not wise.  It's also off-topic (16.04) due to EOL12:29
guiverc2packages found in 'main' still have support for 16.04, packages found in 'universe' (or community supported) are EOL12:30
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Firefox is in main only right?12:30
tMHsad to hear...12:32
guiverc2yes Firefox for 16.04 is in main/security so is okay, but the rest of Lubuntu desktop is from 'universe'12:32
guiverc2Kylin & Unity 7 (ubuntu-desktop) still have support in 16.0412:32
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> Ouch.12:32
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> tMH: I suggest you should upgrade to 18.04 atleast to get proper support and working software.12:33
guiverc2tMH, You may still get responses in Ubuntu Forums; I'm trying to follow on-topic details (where 16.04 Lubuntu is off-topic due to being EOL)12:34
guiverc2(I mention Ubuntu forums primarily as its the least worried about rules/EOL in my experience...)12:34
tMHguiverc2 - you know, I'v tried to upgrade xbununtu to 18.04 and met nvidia drivers problem... this is the reason why I stopped on 16.04 ...12:50
tMHxubuntu even12:50
guiverc2tMH, others may help, we all follow the rules as we see them, and as Lubuntu see's 16.04 as EOL, it's off-topic here, and I'll abide by that sorry.  Modern browsers require certain CPU flags; I suspect your 12.04 had really old browser (thus didn't require the flags), and I have boxes here that won't use modern chromium/firefox; ie. it's not the Lubuntu, but the browser that is rejecting your cpu as non-compliant.. but it's an educated guess)12:56
guiverc2I'll power up an old nokia here,  it's so old it won't use modern browsers... and see if I can gain info on what I remember...12:57
kc2bezThe_LoudSpeaker: For your steam problem you may be running into this issue https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848001 We'll need some further information to be sure.13:00
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1848001 in steam (Ubuntu) "libnvidia-gl-435:i386 not installed from Ubiquity checkbox in 19.10 beta" [Undecided,Confirmed]13:00
kc2bezThe_LoudSpeaker: paste your output so that we can see the issue exactly.13:02
guiverc2tMH, my old nokia box runs firefox 31.8 fine, but had issues with SSE2 & other flags not being present; https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/62.0/system-requirements/ shows SSE2 is required, but I don't know which release of firefox introduced that requirement (thus P4 or newer & not some celeron & newer by more limited cpus)13:18
lubot<The_LoudSpeaker> @kc2bez [<kc2bez> The_LoudSpeaker: paste your output so that we can see the issue exactly …], https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/95jngHXD9Y/15:06
lubot<teward001> I thought Steam only provided Steam for LTSes?15:07
lubot<teward001> o.O15:07
lubot<teward001> @The_LoudSpeaker you *do* have Multiverse repos enabled yes?15:08
lubot<teward001> and you did an `apt update` (i'm assuming)15:08
The_LoudSpeakerI had run steam on 19.04. so it's definitely not only for LTSes15:09
kc2bezSteam has their own repos, you might need them too. Did you try installing from the deb on the Steam website?15:09
kc2bezIt should add them for you.15:09
lubot<teward001> ... just for kicks, what happens if you try and do `sudo apt install steam`, I'm wondering what deps its brekaing on.  But yes you should also install using the .deb from the Steam site15:10
The_LoudSpeakerUmm. I am behind sophos so can't access the website.15:10
lubot<teward001> then even if you DID manage to install it, you wouldn't be able to use it15:10
lubot<teward001> because it needs to access Steam's sites too ;)15:10
The_LoudSpeakerApt install steam says it's it has no installation candidate.15:11
lubot<teward001> then your repos are out of date, 'cause `steam` is in the repos... it's an i386 package mind you but...15:11
The_LoudSpeakerActually there's a catch. If I just connect and start a csgo game using mobile data then shift to lan. It still runs.15:11
lubot<teward001> CS:GO has different internals it reaches out to than Steam ;)15:12
lubot<teward001> i think you're missing my point - Steam *itself* needs to access Steam's site and resources, if *that* is blocked even if you install it it won't work15:12
The_LoudSpeakerI will connect to my own vpn after dinner later and try the deb from steam's site?15:13
The_LoudSpeaker*!15:16
The_LoudSpeakerPros and cons of Installing lubuntu in an extended partition.16:17
The_LoudSpeaker?16:17
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exit70can lxqt power mgmt show time to empty? i find myself running upower command from time to time.23:26
guivercexit70, https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.12/power_management.html is the manual page on it; I rarely use laptops so have no idea; but I'd suspect it'd be an annoying figure (constantly changing as you vary what you do, unless they smooth out the jumps & make it inaccurate..)23:30
exit70this is exactly what i see :)23:31

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