[05:01] hello [10:03] Colin was added by: Colin [12:15] [05:42 pm] <76b3The_LoudSpeakerQuery: How do I install steam on eoan? I tried apt install steam-installer but it says unmet dependencies, depends on steam but it is not installable. [12:15] Should have asked here only. Trying in lubuntu. [12:23] The_LoudSpeaker, I gather from #ubuntu you had a prior question answered; you could always search irc logs for that conversation (just a thought; I've done it before..) [12:24] That was more than a month ago. I don't remember the date. Plus considering the no of users and daily queries on that channel. It wouldn't be easy. [12:25] But I will give it a try in an hour or so. If someone answers before that then it's good. [12:25] I've found my conversations before by searching my username; I'd hope yours is unique enough to work too... I don't know anything about steam so can't help sorry [12:26] guiverc2 - hiya. I've installed lubuntu 16.40 and discovered, that _no_ browsers are about to run on my system.. honestly, I don't need much GUI and browing on that machine - it's a filehoster, but I just wonder - why ? old xubuntu 12.* was able to run freshly updated firefox, srware iron (chrome fork) etc... [12:28] Lubuntu 16.04 LTS had 3 years of support; it ended 2019-April and is no longer supported by the Lubuntut team. I'd recommend Lubuntu 18.04 LTS; or using Ubuntu 16.04 Server for hosting/file-serving functions [12:28] tMH, ^ [12:28] tMH: Firefox doesn't run? Also, End of Support. [12:28] guiverc2 - so - no chance to run gui browsers at all ?:/ [12:29] gui browsers may work; but given the GUI is EOL; it's not wise. It's also off-topic (16.04) due to EOL [12:30] packages found in 'main' still have support for 16.04, packages found in 'universe' (or community supported) are EOL [12:30] Firefox is in main only right? [12:32] sad to hear... [12:32] yes Firefox for 16.04 is in main/security so is okay, but the rest of Lubuntu desktop is from 'universe' [12:32] Kylin & Unity 7 (ubuntu-desktop) still have support in 16.04 [12:32] Ouch. [12:33] tMH: I suggest you should upgrade to 18.04 atleast to get proper support and working software. [12:34] tMH, You may still get responses in Ubuntu Forums; I'm trying to follow on-topic details (where 16.04 Lubuntu is off-topic due to being EOL) [12:34] (I mention Ubuntu forums primarily as its the least worried about rules/EOL in my experience...) [12:50] guiverc2 - you know, I'v tried to upgrade xbununtu to 18.04 and met nvidia drivers problem... this is the reason why I stopped on 16.04 ... [12:50] xubuntu even [12:56] tMH, others may help, we all follow the rules as we see them, and as Lubuntu see's 16.04 as EOL, it's off-topic here, and I'll abide by that sorry. Modern browsers require certain CPU flags; I suspect your 12.04 had really old browser (thus didn't require the flags), and I have boxes here that won't use modern chromium/firefox; ie. it's not the Lubuntu, but the browser that is rejecting your cpu as non-compliant.. but it's an educated guess) [12:57] I'll power up an old nokia here, it's so old it won't use modern browsers... and see if I can gain info on what I remember... [13:00] The_LoudSpeaker: For your steam problem you may be running into this issue https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848001 We'll need some further information to be sure. [13:00] Launchpad bug 1848001 in steam (Ubuntu) "libnvidia-gl-435:i386 not installed from Ubiquity checkbox in 19.10 beta" [Undecided,Confirmed] [13:02] The_LoudSpeaker: paste your output so that we can see the issue exactly. [13:18] tMH, my old nokia box runs firefox 31.8 fine, but had issues with SSE2 & other flags not being present; https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/62.0/system-requirements/ shows SSE2 is required, but I don't know which release of firefox introduced that requirement (thus P4 or newer & not some celeron & newer by more limited cpus) [15:06] @kc2bez [ The_LoudSpeaker: paste your output so that we can see the issue exactly …], https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/95jngHXD9Y/ [15:07] I thought Steam only provided Steam for LTSes? [15:07] o.O [15:08] @The_LoudSpeaker you *do* have Multiverse repos enabled yes? [15:08] and you did an `apt update` (i'm assuming) [15:09] I had run steam on 19.04. so it's definitely not only for LTSes [15:09] Steam has their own repos, you might need them too. Did you try installing from the deb on the Steam website? [15:09] It should add them for you. [15:10] ... just for kicks, what happens if you try and do `sudo apt install steam`, I'm wondering what deps its brekaing on. But yes you should also install using the .deb from the Steam site [15:10] Umm. I am behind sophos so can't access the website. [15:10] then even if you DID manage to install it, you wouldn't be able to use it [15:10] because it needs to access Steam's sites too ;) [15:11] Apt install steam says it's it has no installation candidate. [15:11] then your repos are out of date, 'cause `steam` is in the repos... it's an i386 package mind you but... [15:11] Actually there's a catch. If I just connect and start a csgo game using mobile data then shift to lan. It still runs. [15:12] CS:GO has different internals it reaches out to than Steam ;) [15:12] i think you're missing my point - Steam *itself* needs to access Steam's site and resources, if *that* is blocked even if you install it it won't work [15:13] I will connect to my own vpn after dinner later and try the deb from steam's site? [15:16] *! [16:17] Pros and cons of Installing lubuntu in an extended partition. [16:17] ? === Paul is now known as Guest17825 === guiverc2 is now known as guiverc [23:26] can lxqt power mgmt show time to empty? i find myself running upower command from time to time. [23:30] exit70, https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.12/power_management.html is the manual page on it; I rarely use laptops so have no idea; but I'd suspect it'd be an annoying figure (constantly changing as you vary what you do, unless they smooth out the jumps & make it inaccurate..) [23:31] this is exactly what i see :)