[05:01] <kratkit> hello
[12:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> [05:42 pm] <76b3The_LoudSpeakerQuery: How do I install steam on eoan? I tried apt install steam-installer but it says unmet dependencies, depends on steam but it is not installable.
[12:15] <The_LoudSpeaker> Should have asked here only. Trying in lubuntu.
[12:23] <guiverc2> The_LoudSpeaker, I gather from #ubuntu you had a prior question answered; you could always search irc logs for that conversation  (just a thought; I've done it before..)
[12:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> That was more than a month ago. I don't remember the date. Plus considering the no of users and daily queries on that channel. It wouldn't be easy.
[12:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> But I will give it a try in an hour or so. If someone answers before that then it's good.
[12:25] <guiverc2> I've found my conversations before by searching my username; I'd hope yours is unique enough to work too... I don't know anything about steam so can't help sorry
[12:26] <tMH> guiverc2 - hiya. I've installed lubuntu 16.40 and discovered, that _no_ browsers are about to run on my system.. honestly, I don't need much GUI and browing on that machine - it's a filehoster, but I just wonder - why ? old xubuntu 12.* was able to run freshly updated firefox, srware iron (chrome fork) etc...
[12:28] <guiverc2> Lubuntu 16.04 LTS had 3 years of support; it ended 2019-April and is no longer supported by the Lubuntut team.  I'd recommend Lubuntu 18.04 LTS; or using Ubuntu 16.04 Server for hosting/file-serving functions
[12:28] <guiverc2> tMH, ^
 tMH: Firefox doesn't run? Also, End of Support.
[12:28] <tMH> guiverc2 - so - no chance to run gui browsers at all ?:/
[12:29] <guiverc2> gui browsers may work; but given the GUI is EOL; it's not wise.  It's also off-topic (16.04) due to EOL
[12:30] <guiverc2> packages found in 'main' still have support for 16.04, packages found in 'universe' (or community supported) are EOL
 Firefox is in main only right?
[12:32] <tMH> sad to hear...
[12:32] <guiverc2> yes Firefox for 16.04 is in main/security so is okay, but the rest of Lubuntu desktop is from 'universe'
[12:32] <guiverc2> Kylin & Unity 7 (ubuntu-desktop) still have support in 16.04
 Ouch.
 tMH: I suggest you should upgrade to 18.04 atleast to get proper support and working software.
[12:34] <guiverc2> tMH, You may still get responses in Ubuntu Forums; I'm trying to follow on-topic details (where 16.04 Lubuntu is off-topic due to being EOL)
[12:34] <guiverc2> (I mention Ubuntu forums primarily as its the least worried about rules/EOL in my experience...)
[12:50] <tMH> guiverc2 - you know, I'v tried to upgrade xbununtu to 18.04 and met nvidia drivers problem... this is the reason why I stopped on 16.04 ...
[12:50] <tMH> xubuntu even
[12:56] <guiverc2> tMH, others may help, we all follow the rules as we see them, and as Lubuntu see's 16.04 as EOL, it's off-topic here, and I'll abide by that sorry.  Modern browsers require certain CPU flags; I suspect your 12.04 had really old browser (thus didn't require the flags), and I have boxes here that won't use modern chromium/firefox; ie. it's not the Lubuntu, but the browser that is rejecting your cpu as non-compliant.. but it's an educated guess)
[12:57] <guiverc2> I'll power up an old nokia here,  it's so old it won't use modern browsers... and see if I can gain info on what I remember...
[13:00] <kc2bez> The_LoudSpeaker: For your steam problem you may be running into this issue https://launchpad.net/bugs/1848001 We'll need some further information to be sure.
[13:02] <kc2bez> The_LoudSpeaker: paste your output so that we can see the issue exactly.
[13:18] <guiverc2> tMH, my old nokia box runs firefox 31.8 fine, but had issues with SSE2 & other flags not being present; https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/62.0/system-requirements/ shows SSE2 is required, but I don't know which release of firefox introduced that requirement (thus P4 or newer & not some celeron & newer by more limited cpus)
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> The_LoudSpeaker: paste your output so that we can see the issue exactly …], https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/95jngHXD9Y/
 I thought Steam only provided Steam for LTSes?
 o.O
 @The_LoudSpeaker you *do* have Multiverse repos enabled yes?
 and you did an `apt update` (i'm assuming)
[15:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> I had run steam on 19.04. so it's definitely not only for LTSes
[15:09] <kc2bez> Steam has their own repos, you might need them too. Did you try installing from the deb on the Steam website?
[15:09] <kc2bez> It should add them for you.
 ... just for kicks, what happens if you try and do `sudo apt install steam`, I'm wondering what deps its brekaing on.  But yes you should also install using the .deb from the Steam site
[15:10] <The_LoudSpeaker> Umm. I am behind sophos so can't access the website.
 then even if you DID manage to install it, you wouldn't be able to use it
 because it needs to access Steam's sites too ;)
[15:11] <The_LoudSpeaker> Apt install steam says it's it has no installation candidate.
 then your repos are out of date, 'cause `steam` is in the repos... it's an i386 package mind you but...
[15:11] <The_LoudSpeaker> Actually there's a catch. If I just connect and start a csgo game using mobile data then shift to lan. It still runs.
 CS:GO has different internals it reaches out to than Steam ;)
 i think you're missing my point - Steam *itself* needs to access Steam's site and resources, if *that* is blocked even if you install it it won't work
[15:13] <The_LoudSpeaker> I will connect to my own vpn after dinner later and try the deb from steam's site?
[15:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> *!
[16:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> Pros and cons of Installing lubuntu in an extended partition.
[16:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> ?
[23:26] <exit70> can lxqt power mgmt show time to empty? i find myself running upower command from time to time.
[23:30] <guiverc> exit70, https://manual.lubuntu.me/3/3.2/3.2.12/power_management.html is the manual page on it; I rarely use laptops so have no idea; but I'd suspect it'd be an annoying figure (constantly changing as you vary what you do, unless they smooth out the jumps & make it inaccurate..)
[23:31] <exit70> this is exactly what i see :)