[02:00] <valorie> mparillo: have you done release notes?
[02:00] <valorie> I gave blood today and still feel a bit weird
 The missing "remove media" bug at then end of install has been fixed with latest iso.
[02:01] <valorie> cool!
[02:01] <valorie> o/ @DarinMiller
 I know I prematurely said this before, but I verified with over 30 tests....the alt-tab using the large icon task switcher with NVidia driver on a hybrid laptop is also fixed!  (If that's not an extreme corner case, then I don't know what is..... :))
[02:09] <valorie> that is extemely good news!
[02:09] <valorie> this could be the cycle in which I test wayland on this lappy!
 Wayland works quite well.  I am still not happy with high dpi mixed with a non-high dpi monitor.  Forcing the Font DPI seems to produce better results than the non 1:1 scaling.  When using scaling, even with 0.05 increments, some apps (chrome, telegram, etc) using some sort of blurry pixel doubling and are not crisp and clear like a native KDE app.
[02:22] <valorie> interesting
 However, a comfortable low dpi font is too small on high dpi (and visa versa).  So I choose a comprise font size that frustrates me on both displays.... A per diplay font seems like the best solution, but I have not seen that on an DE's radar.
[02:23] <valorie> might be time for a "wish" bug on bugs.kde.org
[02:23]  * valorie has only the monitor the lappy comes with
 I booted Ubuntu 19.10 to see if they handle mixed dpi environments any better.  Other than defaulting to a 2:1 scale on the high DPi display,  Gnome seems to have few options for customizing (note: I did not install and add the extended gnome customizations).
[02:28] <valorie> interesting
[02:28] <valorie> would be nice to pull ahead of them on the wayland front
 Wayland has improved so much, that I find myself checking ksysgard to see which platform I am running.
[02:29] <valorie> that is reallllllly good news
 BTW, did you watch Alen's vlog testing the new releases?
[02:32] <valorie> I didn't 
[02:32] <valorie> haven't been home much
 I was curious how he captured his external laptop screen to his desktop.  He must be using a video capture device, which makes me wonder what he was using and what software he used to grab the external display, his video feed and the youtube chat window all on a single broadcast screen...  pretty slick demo...
[02:35] <valorie> I'm sure he's willing to tell ya
 yes, I will definitely inquire....
 One missing feature on Wayland is middle click mouse pasting.  I use that all time when coding/editing.  I switch back to X when I am working on anything but very short projects.
[02:48] <valorie> wow, that's a biggie
 @DarinMiller, Was out for a 🍺, so no
 morning
[09:48] <mparillo> Rik beat me to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EoanErmine/ReleaseNotes/Kubuntu
[09:55] <RikMills> mparillo: though I may as well when the beta one was more or less it anyway
[09:55] <RikMills> *thought
[09:57] <mparillo> I think you heavily corrected my beta wiki post, and then must have pasted it into the release notes.
[10:00] <RikMills> beta seems so long ago I forget to be honest
[10:00] <RikMills> Plasma 5.17 is out today
[10:00] <RikMills> built in staging and ready to go
[10:00] <RikMills> to backports ppa that is
[10:15] <vip> hi there
[10:54] <mparillo> Will there be another respin for the sudo CVE (not as serious as the headlines would suggest IMHO)?
[10:55] <mparillo> https://www.sudo.ws/alerts/minus_1_uid.html
[11:27] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[11:33] <RikMills> mparillo: fixed sudo is in the unapproved queue, but don't know more than that
 https://twitter.com/kdecommunity/status/1184081651049160704
 It is in the backports PPA for Eoan
[12:41] <vip> Any chance for disco?
[12:43] <RikMills> vip: not doing for disco as it will break upgrades to Eoan. You can tell people to ppa-purge, but they forget
[12:45] <vip> ok, so I'll to upgrade :)
[16:39] <kinghat> i think you said previously that 5.17 wont be in kubuntu 19.10, correct?
[16:45] <mparillo> While not on the ISO, but Plasma 5.17.x is almost certain to be available in a PPA.
[16:46] <mparillo> Speaking of the ISO, it is available for testing: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/407/builds/201125/testcases
[16:49] <kinghat> mparillo: ya i just mean as the default. figured as much about the ppa.
[18:18] -queuebot:#kubuntu-devel- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191015)
[19:03] <RikMills> new iso!
[22:15] <mparillo> In #ubuntu-release, I see [17:21] <bittin_>  burning the iso with fixed sudo now :). I assume that is http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/407/builds/201180/testcases 
[22:16] <mparillo> Completely untested so far. On the first two, Popey was so fast.