[00:02] <guiverc> first BIOS & first EFI clean install of 2019-10-14 daily ISO
[00:55] <wxl> @guiverc @kc2bez perhaps we should modify the testing checklist for final?
[00:56] <guiverc> i've been updating it; 20191014 is current-final... it's messy yeah, but info there
[00:57] <wxl> oh okie, i'll tweak it
 tweak away
[01:21] <guiverc> wxl you removed a 20191014 (yes,bios,yes), reason?  and why should new iso impact do-release-upgrades?
 Need a lil help here: … https://phab.lubuntu.me/P48
[02:54] <kc2bez> What prompted that output The_LoudSpeaker ?
[02:55] <kc2bez> Is this on a fresh install?
[02:58] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALe04a7b0b1a03: Spellcheck lxqt-panel] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALe04a7b0b1a03
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> What prompted that output The_LoudSpeaker ?], I was running debuild -b —no-sign on default settings. for the screensaver task.
[03:00] <kc2bez> Have you ever had locale issues building any other packages?
 yup! had them for rARTWORK also. but that build fine. locale issues are due the fact that I am devloping in a chroot
 any suggestions?
[03:09] <kc2bez> not offhand
 Also, what is the "install with an existing partition" option here https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/release-team/testing-checklist/ ?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Need a lil help here: … https://phab.lubuntu.me/P48], wxl:
 @The_LoudSpeaker [Also, what is the "install with an existing partition" option here https://phab. …], is this about the replace existing partiotion option?
[03:16] <kc2bez> Fairly certain that is replace an existing partition.
 Should have seen it a bit earlier.🤦🏻‍♂️ Just did a whole erase disk install. Would have done that instead.
[03:20] <kc2bez> It doesn
[03:20] <kc2bez> 't hurt to test again
 I will do that on my test system now then.
 @kc2bez [<kc2bez> 't hurt to test again], Yup! Will do.
[03:20] <kc2bez> Thanks.
 Also, guiverc and kc2bez great work with testing. It's only been few hours since the spins arrived and majority of tests are done. Leave something for me also bruv. XD
[03:46] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUALec8cdaa34c5f: Fix capitilization] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUALec8cdaa34c5f
[04:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMANUAL44645e3be77f: Spellcheck Discover] lynorian (Lyn Perrine) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMANUAL44645e3be77f
[05:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> [09:20 am] <90d7floganleethe latest version of lubuntu looks great
[05:14] <The_LoudSpeaker> From #ubuntu 
[05:19] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T21: Our xscreensaver theme is too old] The_LoudSpeaker (Raman Sarda) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T21#2484
 @The_LoudSpeaker You use sbuild, right? :)
[12:29] <The_LoudSpeaker> Nope. Just a chroot environment. Following the packaging tutorial
 Ours?
[12:30] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup! Whose else?
 @The_LoudSpeaker [<The_LoudSpeaker> Yup! Whose else?], Use this to build your packages: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild
[12:33] <The_LoudSpeaker> okay. will do tonight.
 Thanks
[12:38] <The_LoudSpeaker> Ugh!! I hate you sophos! My full disk installation with encryption and internet failed. Coz connection refused. -_-
[14:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> I just completed a successful full-disk encrypted installation while connected to internet. 
[14:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> On closing the installer and rebooting, it remained quite a long time on plymoth reboot screen. on checking, I noticed it was timing out some stop job. 1min 30 sec.
[14:09] <The_LoudSpeaker> @guiverc you noticed this?
[14:42] <The_LoudSpeaker> Does the replace existing partition option work on systems having separate /home and /boot partitions?
[14:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> If I select only to replace the / mount point. Will it work?
 Lubuntu installation instructions same as Mint Cinnamon?
 Where is the sha256 for 64 bit desktop
 @tsimonq2
[17:11] <wxl> r
[17:12] <wxl> @princeofclay for the 20191014, which is our current final image http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20191014/SHA256SUMS
[17:13] <wxl> incidentially it's in the same folder as the image itself.....
[17:16] <wxl> @princeofclay also no, we're totally unrelated to cinammon or mint, so no.
[17:19] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker you can see here the WIP for new testcases. this should explain "install with existing partition" as "replace an existing partition" https://code.launchpad.net/~guiverc/ubuntu-manual-tests/lubuntu-calamares/+merge/372039
[17:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> Noted.
[17:20] <wxl> if someone wants to redo the upgrades from normal release, i won't complain
[17:21] <The_LoudSpeaker> Just installed 19.04 disco btw. Will test the TUI upgrade.
[17:21] <wxl> though a new ISO itself shouldn't have an effect (as guiverc mentioned above), it represents a different state of the frozen archive, so could have different results
[17:21] <The_LoudSpeaker> What do you mean by "Redoing the upgrades from normal release" ?
[17:22] <wxl> well guiverc had done them before and when i updated the testing checklist, i removed his old results (since they weren't with 20191014)
[17:22] <wxl> so i guess technically they haven't been done for this release
[17:23] <wxl> so it's not really a "re"-do
[17:24] <wxl> hey The_LoudSpeaker ! did you do that disco install in a vm?
[17:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> Hardware
[17:24] <wxl> k nevermind then
[17:24] <The_LoudSpeaker> Had to scrap the hackintosh I had set up.
[17:25] <wxl> XD
[17:25] <The_LoudSpeaker> Check your phab notifs btw.
[17:26] <wxl> oh?
 @wxl [<wxl> oh?], Thanks for the help bud
[17:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> Can't build default settings while trying to fix xscreensaver. Been 2 days now.
[17:27] <wxl> yeah i've got some great advice on that one
 I was about to give up on Lubuntu
[17:27] <wxl> don't use a chroot XD
[17:27] <The_LoudSpeaker> bud ? wxl is an old man princeofclay.
[17:28] <wxl> i don't know that they were speaking in botantical terms
[17:29] <The_LoudSpeaker> Yup! Everyone seems to have the same suggestion. But I don't want to clog my daily use system with unnecessary debs. I will try schroot now.
[17:29] <wxl> maybe you should try specifically setting locale variables before moving on?
[17:30] <wxl> As environment variables can affect the building  of  a  package,  often  unintentionally, debuild  sanitises  the environment by removing all environment variables except for TERM, HOME, LOGNAME, GNUPGHOME, PGPPATH, GPG_AGENT_INFO, FAKEROOTKEY, DEB_*, the (C,  CPP,  CXX, LD  and F)FLAGS variables and their _APPEND counterparts and the locale variables LANG and LC_*.
[17:30] <wxl> ^ from debuild's manpage
[17:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> How do I set locales?
[17:31] <The_LoudSpeaker> But rART built nicely in the same env.
[17:32] <The_LoudSpeaker> The issue might not be locales. 
[17:32] <wxl> huh http://www.iasptk.com/ubuntu-fix-locale-issue/
[17:33] <wxl> well if that's not the issue perhaps it's some weird permission issue
[17:39] <wxl> can you give me your patch and i can try to apply and see if i can reproduce?
 Why don't you guys get Telegram
 Its on Linux too
[17:40] <wxl> um, you are on telegram
[17:41] <kc2bez> Some of us have Telegram as well.
 @wxl [<wxl> um, you are on telegram], Yes
[17:41] <wxl> so what do you want us to get that we don't already have?
[17:41] <kc2bez> The_LoudSpeaker: for another test you could try building it before you patch it too.
 @wxl [<wxl> so what do you want us to get that we don't already have?], Multiple groups of different distros to import stuff and get help from
 Not just Ubuntu based
[17:42] <wxl> what does that have to do with telegram?
[17:43] <The_LoudSpeaker> kc2bez: noted.
 @wxl [<wxl> what does that have to do with telegram?], Pros not working on Ubuntu and noobs usually prefer Telegram instead of dedicated platforms. This helps programmers to get input from users from each domain, and users to gain different linux' perspectives. I myself am a former Custom ROM maintainer for Android, and XDA which
 Just a suggestion
[17:47] <wxl> @princeofclay i know lots of "pros" that wouldn't touch telegram with a ten foot pole.
[17:48] <The_LoudSpeaker> locale-gen package not found. lol!
 @wxl [<wxl> @princeofclay i know lots of "pros" that wouldn't touch telegram with a te …], Good for u then
[17:51] <wxl> @The_LoudSpeaker you might be right that it is a red herring
[17:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> Lite. Internet is legit dead rn. Apt update is taking 5-7 mins. I will look into it tomorrow morning.
[17:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> 74.3 kbps 
[17:53] <wxl> so just send me the patch silly
[17:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> Good idea.
[17:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> One sec pasting.
[17:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> P49
[17:55] <The_LoudSpeaker> Typing from phone so link NA.
[17:56] <The_LoudSpeaker> Should be saved as /usr/lib/X11/app-defaults/XScreenSaver
[17:56] <wxl> that's the WHOLE patch?
[17:57] <wxl> you just added the file and called it good/
[17:57] <The_LoudSpeaker> Contains flurry as default with water preset.
[17:57] <The_LoudSpeaker> That's the screensaver config. Only that is required afaik for changing default screensaver theme.
[17:58] <wxl> i'm not talking about that, but about packaging
[17:58] <wxl> clearly that's not enough.. you'd have to at least change the changelog
[17:58] <wxl> possibly more than that
[17:58] <The_LoudSpeaker> Ohh yes. So you want a patch from my local commit?
[17:58] <wxl> yesss
[17:59] <wxl> that's why i said "patch" incidentially XD
[17:59] <The_LoudSpeaker> One sec.
[18:02] <The_LoudSpeaker> Bah! Cloning from phab at 7kbps
[18:02] <The_LoudSpeaker> Actually make it 5
[18:04] <kc2bez> Near the speed of light.
[18:05] <The_LoudSpeaker> Consistently.
[18:05] <wxl> @kc2bez do you know what caused the geoip issue to become fixed?
[18:09] <kc2bez> One/all of the commits between here https://github.com/calamares/calamares/commit/88fc6685ba1037664c429b34421d28be3850c5d3     and   Here https://github.com/calamares/calamares/commit/0ee8427d5a310a568263f1493d573b888b28661a  
[18:10] <kc2bez> There could be more. It is tough to keep up with [ade]
[18:11] <The_LoudSpeaker> Umm how do I create a patch from a commit using terminal ?
 @princeofclay [Where is the sha256 for 64 bit desktop], Any input on this
[18:11] <The_LoudSpeaker> A bit off sync rn. Please help.
 @wxl [<wxl> @princeofclay for the 20191014, which is our current final image http://cd …], Here @princeofclay
[18:12] <apt-ghetto> If it is the last commit: git show > outfile.diff
 Aren't patches .patch files?
[18:13] <wxl> you can call them whatever
 K.
[18:13] <apt-ghetto> Everything is a file
 P50
[18:14] <apt-ghetto> There is also `man git-format-patch`
[18:16] <wxl> yep can't replicate
[18:16] <wxl> can `debuild -{b,S} --no-sign` without issues
[18:16] <The_LoudSpeaker> Gg Chroot!
[18:17] <kc2bez> wxl: I missed a commit https://github.com/calamares/calamares/commit/0a1dc77f9be6b4c696e05fe218f7ff525d5bc702
[18:17] <The_LoudSpeaker> Chroot will be executed tomorrow at dawn.
[18:18] <wxl> i guess that doesn't rule out the locale thing
[18:21] <kc2bez> I think I missed some more
[18:21] <wxl> oh don't worry about it
[18:21] <wxl> i got enough of the idea
[18:21] <kc2bez> A ton of change there.
[18:24] -queuebot:#lubuntu-devel- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop amd64 [Eoan Final] has been updated (20191015)
[18:24] <kc2bez> Moar testing!^
[18:25] <wxl> ugghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[18:26] <The_LoudSpeaker> Aah! Gg!
 Home stretch, guys
 Keep it up :)
 @teward001 @N0um3n0 One thing we should figure out is how to do translations natively in Wordpress and how to give translators access
 @tsimonq2 [@teward001 @N0um3n0 One thing we should figure out is how to do translations nat …], maybe with a plugin like this? https://wordpress.org/plugins/polylang/